These are respectable, but not earth shattering sales, there's no two ways about it- but I wouldn't be that surprised if DK is more of a sleeper hit long term. The western developed, mainline DKC games have just not been huge in Japan and general audiences aren't tuned into who develops what, so the assumption will be that it's more of what they aren't really into. I suspect word of mouth will be what matters here.
Yes. A million times. Yes, not just for the storage but also cause I'd like to be able to have the games I actually play in my library and not have to go in to the app every time.
One of the things I love about NSO is the controllers - playing retro games exactly they way they were designed just feels right. It'll be interesting when Nintendo Classics takes the next step forward…
@NotoriousWhiz ok- wow. haven't seen that in Europe (admittedly not Nintendo's strongest market). Even 750 though, that's way below what PS5 was getting marked up by scalpers.
@BTB20 No argument- 50m is probably a lock but while that was great for the SNES, following up the best selling console ever (I'm pretty sure it takes that record sooner or later) with a platform selling a third as much wouldn't be seen as a success. It's a great launch, and I'm delighted to see it coming out of the gate so strongly, but it doesn't guarantee ongoing momentum. It does make me optimistic though…
I'm just hoping this game lives up to expectations. While the Rare and Retro DK games have been decent, they never managed to blow me away the way a Mario game can, but back in the hands of Nintendo itself? Please let it be the game DK deserves…
Yes, it's had a very good launch. No, a good launch doesn't always translate into a successful lifetime (the opposite also applies). What I'd love to see is Nintendo getting some credit for a launch that's largely pulled the rug from under the scalpers.
@OldGamer999 I get it, but we're deep into an era of diminishing returns in terms of graphics. I've watched ps5 normal Vs pro side-by-sides and, i can't imagine being able to distinguish between them, especially not if I'm actually playing. The fact that you can play a decent version of cyberpunk on the modern equivalent of a Game Boy? That's mind blowing…
I ordered this is as soon as I could. There are so many basic elements of modern joypads (D-pad, analogue stick, diamond button layout, shoulder buttons) that came from Nintendo and I'm sorry that the GC button layout didn't become the standard- knowing by touch which button you were on was a brilliant (and well executed) idea.
If we could launch the actual games straight from there that'd be great, but really I'd love if you could add individual NSO games to your main library screen.
Thankfully, this is all pretty much BS. Japanese business culture is very different from US/UK culture, and outright hostile acquisitions, especially from foreign companies, are very difficult.
3DS sold ten million after Switch launched. Between potential price cuts and the fact that the Switch Lite occupies a very specific niche, I can't see Switch failing to pass 160m.
It doesn't bug me that Nintendo doesn't mark the anniversary of the company, but I wish they'd mark the anniversary of Donkey Kong - it is to Nintendo what Steamboat Willie is to Disney.
Just to be contrary, there are rumours and there are rumours. There are sketchy unfounded rumours and there are well sourced rumours in respectable publications. Nikkei is not the same as BingoBongo786587 on twitter (not to say that there aren't good sources on twitter). It seems highly credible to me that Nintendo's plans have been delayed, regardless of announcements. But when Nintendo gives us excruciating delays like this, in the end we get things like OoT. And BotW. And TotK. It'll be worth waiting for.
@OldGamer999 Nintendo won't care about records, they care about financial metrics. That said, the 3DS managed to sell over 10m after the release of the Switch so I'd be reasonably optimistic that it will pass the PS2.
I can see the switch crossing 150m pretty comfortably- even accounting for a holiday season that's likely to be a fair bit down on last year, sales after the launch of the next console could easily be in the region of 10m. I think the question is whether or not it can cross 160..
While it sounds great, I'd bloody hope it's the fastest selling Super Mario game- it's launching into a huge install base, and the franchise has one of the biggest movies of the year behind it. Very few titles launch with that kind of tailwind.
I'm wondering if the fact that they haven't been shouting about sales figures means they've come in under projections. I hope not (last 2D platformer to have me so engrossed was Yoshi's Island), but I'm sure they'll say something by November 7.
@Ignatius_Cheese Is that true? Renders the charts fairly meaningless if they're not apples-to-apples. In any case, as others have said, SMBW hasn't had the build-up, and is likely to have serious legs.
What third party publishers think of BC won't influence Nintendo much- the Switch has a library full of first party games that just keep on selling.. not just Mario kart but also Odyssey and NSMBU, AC, Smash, and BotW. Each one still shifting millions every year. TotK and SMB Wonder aren't likely to be any different. It wouldn't make any sense to turn off that particular money tap any time soon.
@YoshiF2 Yeah not so sure about 2025. The fact that the Switch is still selling shouldn't preclude launching a successor- I'd argue the opposite- better to launch from a position of strength.
The idea that a strong Switch means Nintendo should hold off on its successor isn't necessarily right - it would be interesting to see Nintendo launch from a position of strength unlike pretty much every home console launch since the N64.
It's amazing that people even consider that Nintendo at this point could make a Switch successor that isn't backwards compatible. It would be a near-suicidal move - you'd even see it covered outside the gaming press.
I'm not saying Nintendo isn't capable of it though.
I really wouldn't bet on it doing too well but - in my house at least - the gamepad was unusable anywhere outside the same room as the Wii U. If this works - and, for example, my kid can use it in his bedroom instead of taking over the TV - it could be different enough to be worth a shot. For a failure, the Wii U's had quite a legacy (not just this, but the Switch itself, the Steam Deck and all the Steam Deck imitators..)
I'd be curious to hear what TotK players who haven't played BotW think. Right now I'm in a place where I can't believe how good this game is but I did hit the ground running and I really don't know how I'd feel about it if I hadn't.
What's fascinating about TotK's numbers is that unlike, say, Pokémon, Zelda games tend to keep selling as time goes on. When you look at the last six years, you see some titles - including every major Pokémon release - are really front loaded while BotW and especially MK8 Deluxe, have really long legs. The only problem is how they're going to keep shifting these evergreen titles while moving on to a next gen platform…
@MalonsTalon Two things: First, the reviews were far from universally negative, they ranged between totally not getting it to being totally into it. And secondly, the movie didn't have a strong story. For tens of millions of people (myself included), it just didn't need to. It was a big sugary fun blast of a movie which worked because it did Mario and his world so well. No conspiracy there, it just wasn't a movie for critics.
@roboshort I wouldn't really classify it as half-Japanese- Nintendo were obviously hands-on (and thank God they were) but it's a Hollywood movie through and through and I'm pretty sure it'll be seen as such in Japan.
@LeonSKennedy It's really a decent performance- it's not a Japanese movie, and while US movies can do well in Japan, they're notoriously unpredictable - the first Avatar was huge, the second grossed less than a fifth of the first. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see lower weekend on weekend drops in Japan. It's a solid start.
Is the whole Brooklyn plumbers thing going to be in the actual movie? I can't really tell (but Mario definitely seems to be arriving from outside the Mushroom Kingdom, so.. maybe?). That whole thing was never really relevant to many Mario fans from outside the US (and perhaps both people who saw the live action movie) but as long as the film works, I'm happy.
@NightBeast Yeah, except if you dig into those figures, you'll see it consists of 3m sold in Japan (as of 2023) and half a million in Europe as of 2019. So taking that figure as reasonably reliable means accepting that it stopped selling in Europe in 2019, and that it hasn't sold any in North America, or in any other region.
Bears mentioning that these are just the top selling Nintendo games- There may be little difference if third party was included but I'd be very curious to know how many copies Minecraft has shifted.
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Re: Nintendo Direct Announced For Friday, 12th September 2025
I really want Galaxy 2 but I really think we're getting SMB Wonder Switch 2 edition. But I really want Galaxy 2. Really.
Re: Sony Acquires 2.5% Stake In Bandai Namco As Part Of New "Strategic Partnership"
It would be relevant to mention in this article that Nintendo also has 1.77% of Bandai Namco.
Re: Japanese Charts: Donkey Kong Bananza Sells A Bunch, But Can't Beat Mario Kart
These are respectable, but not earth shattering sales, there's no two ways about it- but I wouldn't be that surprised if DK is more of a sleeper hit long term. The western developed, mainline DKC games have just not been huge in Japan and general audiences aren't tuned into who develops what, so the assumption will be that it's more of what they aren't really into. I suspect word of mouth will be what matters here.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct Is Set To Take Place Later This Month, It's Claimed
Super Mario Bros 40th has yet to be acknowledged… I'll take a Galaxy 2 port plz and maybe an update to wonder kthxbye.
Re: Talking Point: With Bigger GameCube File Sizes, Should Nintendo Let Us Download Individual NSO Games?
Yes. A million times. Yes, not just for the storage but also cause I'd like to be able to have the games I actually play in my library and not have to go in to the app every time.
Re: Best Nintendo Switch 2 Controllers
One of the things I love about NSO is the controllers - playing retro games exactly they way they were designed just feels right. It'll be interesting when Nintendo Classics takes the next step forward…
Re: Switch 2 Sets "All-Time" Launch Record For Video Game Hardware In The US
@NotoriousWhiz ok- wow. haven't seen that in Europe (admittedly not Nintendo's strongest market). Even 750 though, that's way below what PS5 was getting marked up by scalpers.
Re: Switch 2 Sets "All-Time" Launch Record For Video Game Hardware In The US
@BTB20 No argument- 50m is probably a lock but while that was great for the SNES, following up the best selling console ever (I'm pretty sure it takes that record sooner or later) with a platform selling a third as much wouldn't be seen as a success. It's a great launch, and I'm delighted to see it coming out of the gate so strongly, but it doesn't guarantee ongoing momentum. It does make me optimistic though…
Re: Switch 2 Sets "All-Time" Launch Record For Video Game Hardware In The US
@NotoriousWhiz $600 for a $500 console (PS5s were going for double RRP IIRC) And do we even know if they're all selling at that price?
Re: Nintendo Reminds Us DK Is On The Way To Switch 2 Next Month
I'm just hoping this game lives up to expectations. While the Rare and Retro DK games have been decent, they never managed to blow me away the way a Mario game can, but back in the hands of Nintendo itself? Please let it be the game DK deserves…
Re: Switch 2 Sets "All-Time" Launch Record For Video Game Hardware In The US
Yes, it's had a very good launch. No, a good launch doesn't always translate into a successful lifetime (the opposite also applies).
What I'd love to see is Nintendo getting some credit for a launch that's largely pulled the rug from under the scalpers.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom And Breath Of The Wild Updates Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@OldGamer999 I get it, but we're deep into an era of diminishing returns in terms of graphics. I've watched ps5 normal Vs pro side-by-sides and, i can't imagine being able to distinguish between them, especially not if I'm actually playing. The fact that you can play a decent version of cyberpunk on the modern equivalent of a Game Boy? That's mind blowing…
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom And Breath Of The Wild Updates Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@OldGamer999 What for? What else does the Switch 2 need? The only way we're getting the next Nintendo console in 5 years is if the Switch 2 tanks.
Re: Feature: Farewell, Nintendo Switch - It's Finally Time To Bid Our Old Friend 'Adieu'
I'll trade in the OLED but the Lite is still hanging around- much as I love the genius idea of joy cons, nothing can replace a real D-pad.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online App Undergoes Major Revamp For Switch 2
They could put virtual game card management in the app as well, considering it's already available on the web. Oh yeah and the eshop.
Re: Switch 2 GameCube Controller 'Early Purchase' Goes Live Next Week (North America)
I ordered this is as soon as I could. There are so many basic elements of modern joypads (D-pad, analogue stick, diamond button layout, shoulder buttons) that came from Nintendo and I'm sorry that the GC button layout didn't become the standard- knowing by touch which button you were on was a brilliant (and well executed) idea.
Re: How Do Nintendo Switch 2 Virtual Game Cards Work? - Game Transfer & Lending Guide
This seems soooo much better for sharing in a family with multiple consoles.
Re: Gallery: Here's A Sneak Peek Of The Nintendo Switch Online App For Switch 2
If we could launch the actual games straight from there that'd be great, but really I'd love if you could add individual NSO games to your main library screen.
Re: Forget Microsoft, Another Company Apparently Wanted To Buy Nintendo Back In The Day
Thankfully, this is all pretty much BS. Japanese business culture is very different from US/UK culture, and outright hostile acquisitions, especially from foreign companies, are very difficult.
Re: Forget Microsoft, Another Company Apparently Wanted To Buy Nintendo Back In The Day
@Axecon I don't think they did.
Re: Nintendo Switch Hardware Sales Pass 150 Million, With PS2's Record Still A Way Off
3DS sold ten million after Switch launched. Between potential price cuts and the fact that the Switch Lite occupies a very specific niche, I can't see Switch failing to pass 160m.
Re: Random: Takaya Imamura Says Nintendo Never Celebrated Its 100th Birthday
It doesn't bug me that Nintendo doesn't mark the anniversary of the company, but I wish they'd mark the anniversary of Donkey Kong - it is to Nintendo what Steamboat Willie is to Disney.
Re: Random: Owners Of A Nintendo Frying Pan Are Being Warned Not To Use It
Why, when I see an article about a potentially toxic kitchen item, is my first reaction I WANT THAT?
Re: Rumour: New Report From Nikkei Corroborates 'Switch 2' Delay Into 2025
Just to be contrary, there are rumours and there are rumours. There are sketchy unfounded rumours and there are well sourced rumours in respectable publications. Nikkei is not the same as BingoBongo786587 on twitter (not to say that there aren't good sources on twitter). It seems highly credible to me that Nintendo's plans have been delayed, regardless of announcements.
But when Nintendo gives us excruciating delays like this, in the end we get things like OoT. And BotW. And TotK.
It'll be worth waiting for.
Re: Nintendo Is Currently The Richest Company In Japan
Yeah that'll be my fault. Sorry other Japanese companies. I'm not even gonna try add up the money I've paid Nintendo the last few years.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Zooms Past 60 Million Sales
Looking at sales by calendar year, and a peak of 10.45m in 2020, 8.58m isn't even two million short of that, and only 70,000 shy of 2022's figure.
And the third best selling Switch game of the year (I think).
Absurd.
Re: Switch Sales Pass 139 Million, Will Be "Main Business" In 2024, Says Nintendo President
@OldGamer999 Nintendo won't care about records, they care about financial metrics. That said, the 3DS managed to sell over 10m after the release of the Switch so I'd be reasonably optimistic that it will pass the PS2.
Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
Switch Ultra.
Re: Nintendo Switch Has Now Sold Over 132 Million Units
I can see the switch crossing 150m pretty comfortably- even accounting for a holiday season that's likely to be a fair bit down on last year, sales after the launch of the next console could easily be in the region of 10m. I think the question is whether or not it can cross 160..
Re: Super Mario Bros. Wonder Is The Fastest-Selling Mario Game Ever In Europe
While it sounds great, I'd bloody hope it's the fastest selling Super Mario game- it's launching into a huge install base, and the franchise has one of the biggest movies of the year behind it. Very few titles launch with that kind of tailwind.
I'm wondering if the fact that they haven't been shouting about sales figures means they've come in under projections. I hope not (last 2D platformer to have me so engrossed was Yoshi's Island), but I'm sure they'll say something by November 7.
Re: Talking Point: What's The Most Difficult Mainline Mario Game?
The Lost Levels should nearly be disqualified as being tricky as hell is its whole raison d'être.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Wonder And Sonic Superstars Start Strong, But Neither Can Out-Swing Spidey
@Ignatius_Cheese Is that true? Renders the charts fairly meaningless if they're not apples-to-apples. In any case, as others have said, SMBW hasn't had the build-up, and is likely to have serious legs.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Bros. Wonder
@Anti-Matter Thanks for your insight.
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Super Mario Bros. Wonder
This looks to me like it's going to do Pokémon or Animal Crossing numbers.
Re: Take-Two CEO On Backward Compatibility: "Give Consumers What They Want"
What third party publishers think of BC won't influence Nintendo much- the Switch has a library full of first party games that just keep on selling.. not just Mario kart but also Odyssey and NSMBU, AC, Smash, and BotW. Each one still shifting millions every year. TotK and SMB Wonder aren't likely to be any different. It wouldn't make any sense to turn off that particular money tap any time soon.
Re: PSA: For Goodness Sake, Don't Fall For This Nintendo Switch 2 'Leak'
@YoshiF2 Yeah not so sure about 2025. The fact that the Switch is still selling shouldn't preclude launching a successor- I'd argue the opposite- better to launch from a position of strength.
Re: Japan's Switch Sales In June Were Reportedly A Record High For The Console
The idea that a strong Switch means Nintendo should hold off on its successor isn't necessarily right - it would be interesting to see Nintendo launch from a position of strength unlike pretty much every home console launch since the N64.
Re: Nintendo Aims To Reduce Scalping Of "New Hardware"
@theModestMouse Probably not the biggest thing we have to worry about if China takes Taiwan tbh..
Re: Shuntaro Furukawa: Switch Successor Will Utilise The 'Nintendo Account' System
It's amazing that people even consider that Nintendo at this point could make a Switch successor that isn't backwards compatible. It would be a near-suicidal move - you'd even see it covered outside the gaming press.
I'm not saying Nintendo isn't capable of it though.
Re: Nintendo Direct Showcase Confirmed For Tomorrow, 21st June
TotK DLC? I mean, I still have months of play to go but..
Re: Nintendo Switch 2: Everything We Know About Nintendo's Next Console - Nvidia Chips, Rumours
Nintendo seem to have done a good job lately of keeping its secrets secret. Fair play.
Re: Random: Sony's Upcoming 'Project Q' Is A Little More Wii U Than Switch
I really wouldn't bet on it doing too well but - in my house at least - the gamepad was unusable anywhere outside the same room as the Wii U. If this works - and, for example, my kid can use it in his bedroom instead of taking over the TV - it could be different enough to be worth a shot.
For a failure, the Wii U's had quite a legacy (not just this, but the Switch itself, the Steam Deck and all the Steam Deck imitators..)
Re: Should You Play Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Before Tears Of The Kingdom?
I'd be curious to hear what TotK players who haven't played BotW think.
Right now I'm in a place where I can't believe how good this game is but I did hit the ground running and I really don't know how I'd feel about it if I hadn't.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Is Japan's 7th Biggest Game Launch Of All Time
What's fascinating about TotK's numbers is that unlike, say, Pokémon, Zelda games tend to keep selling as time goes on. When you look at the last six years, you see some titles - including every major Pokémon release - are really front loaded while BotW and especially MK8 Deluxe, have really long legs. The only problem is how they're going to keep shifting these evergreen titles while moving on to a next gen platform…
Re: Mario Movie Breaks Multiple Records In Japan's Opening Weekend
@MalonsTalon Two things: First, the reviews were far from universally negative, they ranged between totally not getting it to being totally into it. And secondly, the movie didn't have a strong story. For tens of millions of people (myself included), it just didn't need to. It was a big sugary fun blast of a movie which worked because it did Mario and his world so well. No conspiracy there, it just wasn't a movie for critics.
Re: Mario Movie Breaks Multiple Records In Japan's Opening Weekend
@roboshort I wouldn't really classify it as half-Japanese- Nintendo were obviously hands-on (and thank God they were) but it's a Hollywood movie through and through and I'm pretty sure it'll be seen as such in Japan.
Re: Mario Movie Breaks Multiple Records In Japan's Opening Weekend
@LeonSKennedy It's really a decent performance- it's not a Japanese movie, and while US movies can do well in Japan, they're notoriously unpredictable - the first Avatar was huge, the second grossed less than a fifth of the first. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see lower weekend on weekend drops in Japan. It's a solid start.
Re: Super Mario Bros. Movie Plumbing Commercial & Website Launched
Is the whole Brooklyn plumbers thing going to be in the actual movie? I can't really tell (but Mario definitely seems to be arriving from outside the Mushroom Kingdom, so.. maybe?). That whole thing was never really relevant to many Mario fans from outside the US (and perhaps both people who saw the live action movie) but as long as the film works, I'm happy.
Re: Here Are The Top Ten Best-Selling Nintendo Switch Games As Of December 2022
@NightBeast Yeah, except if you dig into those figures, you'll see it consists of 3m sold in Japan (as of 2023) and half a million in Europe as of 2019. So taking that figure as reasonably reliable means accepting that it stopped selling in Europe in 2019, and that it hasn't sold any in North America, or in any other region.
Re: Here Are The Top Ten Best-Selling Nintendo Switch Games As Of December 2022
Bears mentioning that these are just the top selling Nintendo games- There may be little difference if third party was included but I'd be very curious to know how many copies Minecraft has shifted.