Random: We Really Hope The New Nintendo Switch Looks Like This

Well, those renders are not bad at all.

Those are really good looking!

The design is beautiful but it'd take me more than that to be forced into same-level analog sticks again. WiiU's was bad enough.

Could we see the likes of this next week??? Fingers crossed

Good Lord, but you lot really want them to bring out a new Switch. I honestly don't get it. The rest of us don't get free software and hardware like the media does, we have to pay for it. We are not as excited.

Bulky without proper analogue sticks... Oh boy that looks bad

That's some good artwork, regardless of the concept.

If not the Switch, work that design into an Android or open source handheld and I'd easily buy it.

The spacing between the buttons is awful like really really really bad bootleg handheld that Ashens would review awful.

I like that he postitioned the right joystick above the buttons! I understand the current layout for horizontal joycon, but I always bump the camera when playing Rocket League and it throws me off. So if it isn't detable, putting it above the buttons would be fantastic!

Luckily Nintendo's designers are better than this. This looks like a cheap Chinese knock-off.

I'm not saying design is easy but thought these images looks amazing, they lack the numerous constraints of an actual product ready for market, like engineering specifications, production cost, and more!

For the people who were asking me why I've been referring to the rumour as the Switch Vita. 😉

Edit: Read the article. "Switch Up", man that's just terribly awful. You aren't switching up anything b/c you aren't switching anything. If he wants to give it a name that bad should have gone with "Switch Off". Though I suppose that's just as bad as you aren't taking anything off either. Which is why after 2 years of debating and typing Switch Go, Switch Boy, Switch Pocket, Switch Portable and Switch Lite I finally decided on Switch Vita. Which I do realize they won't use but it's descriptive.

Magnetics are cool but Nintendo doesn't really do cool. They do 2DS. And Labo. So while I think a smaller Switch with non-removable Co trollers is inevitable I don't think it will look or be anywhere near this mock-up.

@janpampoen It's a difficult concept to grasp at first, but when new hardware comes out, you don't HAVE to buy it. Your existing Switch will continue to work just fine.

The lack of true analog sticks on this would be a deal breaker for me, even with a proper d-pad. The idea of magnetic connection is neat, especially to attach extended battery packs. For someone who plays mostly on the go, it would be a nice feature.

Although, again, horrible analog sticks, so for all the good features this would have, all interest is killed for me because of that.

But otherwise, nice renders. And it shows that some people have (IMO) a better understanding of what people want (aside from those horrible analog nubs), and what makes a nice package, than Nintendo themselves (and a lot of console manufacturers, to be honest).

Nice...but still will keep my detachable Switch.

I admit, it looks nice, but I think it's got a few major usability issues. The triggers are a bit small and seem shaped the same as the bumper buttons. The sticks are very shallow. I also personally much prefer offset analogue sticks. Even if they are not offset, I feel the buttons need to be on top for comfort's sake, especially when handheld.

Overall aesthetic looks good, no doubt, but non-detachable joycons means no more instant multiplayer out of the box (and that familiar "snap" sound they make when attached), and it won't work with Labo kits anymore. Also, those analog sticks don't look durable.

@roadrunner343
It's crazy right? It's the same thing with many PC gamers as well. A game might be perfectly playable at over 60+ fps, and yet, if there's a graphic card or other piece of hardware that can add 4-5 fps more to that out there, it seems they now "have" to buy that. A lot of people seems to have a fear of not having the absolute latest thing out there for.... some weird reasons. Same reason, probably, than those people always needing to have the latest phone as soon as it comes out. There must be something I don't get...

I mean, if a new Switch has features that makes it an awesome improvement for you for some reasons (and not just a few minor plus), I can somewhat understand. But what are really the chances of that happenning? I don't think a new model would change/improve it that much. Sure, the Switch as it is now is still far from perfect, but aside from a proper d-pad and maybe a bigger running time on batteries (which are both, IMO, minor things), the changes that would make the experience better are mostly software-related.

Looks beautiful. Smells great too

A D-Pad! Nintendo would never officially give us the thing we want

beautiful...but it's not a switch. where're the joycons? the idea of playing everywhere with everyone?

Cheesus Carp! Another day, another thing about a new switch sku that doesn't look interesting at all or defeats at least one main purpose of the switch.

Hopefully whenever the new sku is revealed it will be something worthwhile and not the trash people have been guessing at.

Looks pretty good actually and I would definitely grab one of those.

i still think if you make the joycons non removable you no longer have a switch you have a 3ds with way more power....i just dont see nintendo moving away from that but i have been wrong before.

If real, I would have an exceedingly hard time clearing my Wii U backlog in time for this one's release.....

@Almighty-Koz Assuming it could still dock, you would have the most important feature of the Switch. My joycon live on my switch 100% of the time and I use a pro controller when docked. I'm sure there are many others that do the same. I'd be okay with non-removable joycon, especially given that there would still be a SKU with detachable joycon for those that want it.

Love the stand and a very sleek design but I need those Joycons to come off or it's no use to me.

@roadrunner343 At home I do the same but every lunch time at work I take off my Joycons as does a friend and we play 4 player games on the TV. I'm sure there are many others that do the same as well. Not to mention the games that require detached Joycons.

Fashion before function. This guy is going places.

@Ogbert And I'm not saying that's a bad thing =) Just that's it's a different use case, is all. Personally, I'd love to see a portable only Switch (Non-detachable joycon, no dock included) at a lower price point. It would be perfect for homes that already have a Switch or for people that play almost entirely handheld, but you could also purchase joycon/dock separately if you need them. I doubt Nintendo would do that, but it would suit my use case perfectly. Generally speaking though, I would be in favor of more SKUs, as long as they are marketed clearly to prevent confusion. For example, I've heard multiple people ask for a cheaper, home console only system, which despite being completely useless to me, I would be in favor of Nintendo releasing.

Nice renders, but completely redundant functionality wise.
Why increase costs for the "up" part with the proprietary dock, but not have removable joy cons?
That and the mini thumbtacks aside its a nice design.

Surely it will work with the original dock. That will be how they make it cheaper. You just buy the handheld part and then you can buy the original dock separately if you want.

I can't say I love these design and it really is a bad one as well. With the joycon builded into the body is just asking for trouble. In just a few month you can see a lot of unit gong back for repair.

@roadrunner343 i only use a pro controller too i use table top and dock only most docked.....but without the joycons its so much cleaner design. its essentially a tablet fits in everything so much bettter. point is though there are alot of people and ive used this twice now on both the last two Christmases its so much better to hand a child whos is 5 or so a joycon and say have fun in tabletop with two kids... if you make the controllers permanent you lose this functionality....i dont see nintendo doing this as they have marketed the switch with commercials where the people take the joycons off and start playing coop in tabletop....if the joycons dont come off then you no have to carry two extra things or two pro controllers too for these scenarios.

Guys, whether you choose to take official statements at face value or endorse nothing but rumours (which, as we have discussed before, can only be either fake or downright illegal, tertium non datur), I don't think the official stance remotely warrants the use of words like "almost certain". 😏

And "Switch Up", heh. This fantasy definitely looks like a classy handheld, but it also looks like a Nintendo Vita roughly compatible with Switch games. Forget the oft-discussed elephants in the room like non-detachable JCs, this design doesn't even have a kickstand. And the earphone port, something in arguably more common use than the charger, has traded places with the latter to sit on the bottom as well. So much for Ninty featuring tabletop mode in every other commercial.

@roadrunner343 I am referring to the so-called Switch Pro that everyone in the media seems to be aching for.

@realnoize I honestly don't care about framerates. If I wanted more horsepower I'd get a ps. I am talking about dividing the pool of owners if a Pro model comes out. Then newer owners get a benefit that I as a first adopter did not. The media seems to be driving this narrative (see Forbes, USgamer Inter alia).

Another designer "concept"...
I can see a new dock but only something compatible with the current switch, and a new switch compatible with the current dock.

@Almighty-Koz I understand the argument, and that's why I don't really expect Nintendo to go that route. However, I disagree that it would be an issue - purchase the product that suits your use case. I would have issue with the current Switch or some upgraded pro version, a portable only, and a home only version as long as they are marketed clearly enough (None of this "New" nonsense) to not cause confusion. After that, it's up to the consumer to purchase the SKU with the features they value.

@janpampoen Who cares if a new model gives new buyers benefits that day 1 buyers didn't get? It's not going to impact our ability to enjoy our current Switches. I find it highly unlikely, especially at this point in the Switch life cycle, that any new pro model would have exclusive software anyway.

Yeah no way a new console doesn't have joycons. A new switch with an OLED screen and more refined finishes like the vita would be nice. But yeah, still totally expecting joycons.

Great, yesterday i bought the Oculus Quest and now this. I would buy this revision of the switch in a heartbeat. I need a device that feels a bit sturdier than the current switch although, I am very happy with it. (current switch)

Well if the WiiU feature thing will be a thing for this will that mean we'll get more Switch Online games available that are from the DS, GameBoy and GBA as well the HD copies of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess available from the eShop?

How is this better than the real, current Switch? No detachable joycons, and that magnetic dock? How is the console outputting the video to it? Magnetically? If it's supposed to be wireless then please no... Everyone that has owned a Steam Link knows that streaming gameplay wirelessly even inside your home is a pain. And also, why? If you are physically putting the console on the dock why not just have a plug? You know, the way it's right now. It's cheaper, more reliable and it just works. And having the console just laying on a surface, screen up, is a terrible design for a dock. The current dock not only serves the purpose of connecting the console to the TV but also is a cradle that holds it and protects it.
Nice renders, but terrible product design and I didn't even touch the hardware specs...

instabuy ! I absolutely love the elegant design

Oh God. That looks so insanely sleek. I need one!

At the end it's a handheld hardware. Switch a little more than that. We want Hybrid again, but with more ram and more cpu power and gpu power. 1080@60 even newest titles should be able to run on the new switch. Yes

@bizcochototal nuff said! Most people here are more 3ds lovers so when see this stuff they are drooling already... lol

Almost certain, huh? Nintendo denied it, but because it's rumoured by some stock guys, it's almost certain.

@infernogott Nintendo denied it'd be at E3, which is... pretty standard when it comes to how they market console revisions.

What console revisions? I can only remember handheld revisions from Nintendo in recent history. They said the Switch is a console, so I really doubt there will be a revision.

I really love the new design of the home menu.

lets take this as a grain of salt since nintendo stated there not making any new models of switch i mean having different colors would be nice but right now nintendo primary focus is bring more games to the switch.

@infernogott Switch can function as either, but I'm sure they're well aware of how much better their handhelds tend to sell, and with a load of franchises releasing this year that are big on handhelds, it'd make sense for them to capitalize on them with a new and cheaper console revision. If anything takes Switch from "one per household" to "one per person," as has been their stated goal, it'll be that.

@AlexOlney hello there lovely peeeeople

Maybe. I don't get the weekly articles about this rumour though.

They look nice! I would the master blue! I like design too.

@sanderev Precisely what I was thinking. The sort of cheap device that has to look sleek to attract buyers because it has little else going for it.

Not sure about the analog stick design but everything else looks slick.

@Drezus WiiU's control sticks were flawless. I only missed the notches. In direct comparison, the control sticks of the Switch are terribly small and uncomfortable. However, you are right, this mock-up does it even worse..

I like these renders for the most part, but I'm not sure how practical some of the control placements would be.

Props to the guy for coming up with some creative color names though. "Phazon Black" is my favorite.

Design looks okay and though it's not an official design why would you put the USB-C port on the top though? Also not a fan of the circle pad, should just stick with clickable thumb sticks like the PS Vita.

@RupeeClock That's some...Odd, reasoning.

I don't think whether the buttons are above or below the right analogue really makes much of a difference. Actually, any difference whatsoever. I highly doubt developers are thinking "dang, we can't do that 'thing' because the analogue stick is below the buttons", especially since for over a decade the vast majority of games (tons of them having Switch ports) have been developed for at least 2 platforms that had two different control layouts, the only difference being which controller the user found comfortable.

Personally, I much prefer symmetrical sticks than the asymmetrical ones the Switch has, so this would be ideal for me. It's baffling that they don't already offer an option to do this with the existing sticks given the joycons are detachable since the layout makes absolutely no difference to gameplay and is only forced to mimic the logo.

I don't like the form factor on the back and those kind of sliding joysticks are terrible. I also don't like the repositioning of the right stick. I do like the size and screen though.

Focusing on portability should include tabletop (how else do you play multiplayer when not docked?).

The idea of a switch withiut joy-cons or tabletop mode makes it not a switch... Just a dockable tablet hanheld...

Many other handhels and tablets already have tv docking options... It wouldnt make sense to go in that direktion

Then again... The 2ds defied the purpose of the 3ds... So who knows...

I like it, but that concept doesn't look like something Nintendo would make. The direction is fine but it lacks that certain something that Nintendo is known for when it comes to design. Looks more like something you would see some Android phone maker producing.

Why would you stream the game to the hardware which is running it?!
I'm living in a cuckoo clock...

WOW! Just wow! If I were to design my own dream handheld, this would be better every single time! I’ll take on in black, please!

Cool designs but nah it still not for me... I see no point in a Switch "mini" .

I never play my Switch in handheld mode anyway I would like a more beefy version though 😁

This is literally just a big PS Vita. It looks nice, I guess. Also, why are both analog sticks on top?

@ss213 The idea of Multiplayer on the same switch is what they are trying to move away from with this design.

The writing is on the wall. Let's Go, cannot trade between users on same switch or battle, Sword and Shield will be the same. Pokemon demands a cheaper 1 for everyone switch, instead of Multiplayer features, and they will sell for that reason alone.

The few games that do Tabletop multiplayer, few people care about. A switch mini/light is not about playing with everyone, it's about being a 3ds/2ds replacement.

@roadrunner343 My main issue is the cheaper SKU is that's generally the version that becomes for the casual/family/kids markets, like the 2DS. However if that's achieved by removing the concept of removable Joycon that then puts that very SKU at odds with their other products aimed at the same markets. The 2DS didn't have that issue as it removed an already optional feature, no games required the 3D but many Switch games require the Joycons detached.

Mario Party for example, requires detached Joycons. sure you can buy 4 more but that's £120-140 on top, that's not cheaper at all. LABO simply cannot function with that SKU as not only does it need the separate Joycons but the screen too. 1-2-Switch - a game most here will agree is bad but would still draw a casual audience - would not function. And you loose 2 player out of the box, a big selling point for family markets.

It just feels too confusing to me. Every game will have so many disclaimers and a list of which features work on what SKUs it'll be a mess. But that's not to say Nintendo won't do it. I'd say a smarter plan would be to reduce the price of the Switch as-is, now that parts are cheaper and re-sell all the core audience a more powerful 'pro' version that has a better screen and such.

I just don't think they will release a Switch without separated Joycon controllers

I'd prefer a new dock that allows for even better up-scaling than a whole new Switch. My wallet is already dead.

Please enlighten me, why you would want a more expensive Switch with a feature developers want (or can't) really use, with worse ergonomics and essentially less features?

@NIN10DOXD
The dock doesn't do any kind of upscaling.

It's like a Wii U DS basically.

@Ogbert I think it's a stretch to say there are "Many" games that require detached JoyCon. Out of my entire collection (70+ games at the moment) Mario Party is the only one that comes to mind that requires them. It's a fair point that certain titles wouldn't be playable out of the box, I just don't think it's a major issue.

Even so, saying it wouldn't be cheaper because it may "require" a separate purchase is missing the point. Cutting the JoyCons or the Dock makes it cheaper. If you know you're going to want those out of the gate, then obviously the cheaper version wouldn't be for you. It would make for a cheaper cost of entry for those not interested in certain features, or be an ideal second system for homes that already own a Switch. Otherwise, the existing SKU would remain available for purchase, so I don't have any issue with a SKU dropping certain features.

Ultimately, I do agree with you that Nintendo will likely not go that route due to the possibility for confusion - however, they've done far dumber when it comes to marketing (New 3DS/2DS/Wii Mini/Wii U), so who knows. I think they could do it as long as they got their messaging right. I do agree with you that the most likely scenario is that the current switch drops in price when a "pro" model is launched.

Love it. Reminds me of the Vita, which is a criminally underrated handheld. It being thinner and having an attachable back plate dock is a clever idea, even if they just do it so that it can mount in a standard Switch dock it could work.

@Wavey84 The current Switch isn't fashion before function so much as it is essential compromise. The Joycon's can't be big and comfy if they're goint to be part of a portable system. But the actual build is more utilitarian than fashionable.

For the people who want to think of it as a home console, it's not really a home console unless you buy a Pro controller. For the people who want to think of it as a handheld, it's not really pocketable as-is, but is "baggable" (to quote the Vita marketing.) It's an essential set of compromises for what it is while still being adequate for all use cases. That's very much function over form (to a fault, arguably)

I'm gonna laugh if a new system isn't revealed next week. lol

The green and black looks neat. Neon green and a darker grey also looks great.

System looks nice. Like a modern PSP.

I hope the next console comes in two versions since they will continue the same architecture more than likely. A dedicated home unit that is $100-150 and really small would be nice.

@Realnoize people have been primed since the end of WW2 to consume. Hype trains and all of that.

Just give me the GameBoy4DSwitch, and I'll be happy!

Switch Pro please Nintendo!

I won't lie, I love the look of these!

The, laying down, dock is such a cool feature. But, you still need controls when it's docked, that's why I think the Switch Mini's dock needs the Joycon charge rails on it so that they be used when the system is docked, and charging when the system is out of the dock.

Mmmm nice!

Love the phrase “clever dock” the word “smart” being so over played !

Can’t wait for E3!

Its impossible because too much games needs to play separated controls

@roadrunner343 Yeah, as long as the portable Switch could still connect with old detachable joy con I guess it would be okay. That way the one piece Switch could still have a way to play Labo, Mario Party, Pokemon Let's Go, etc. That would also seem to be necessary for most multiplayer games. I'd also be cool with a TV only Switch, but it would likely lose compatibility with certain games (obviously Labo VR). The thing I'd most appreciate though is a significant power boost. I'd like to be able to get 60 fps out of more games regardless of resolution.

@LuciferOnReddit,

The rumors stated new hardware this year,and just because Nintendo have stated they will not reveal anything at this years E3 event does not mean they can't announce it elsewhere,as they will want to focus on software in their E3 direct.

There are too many sources on this for it not to have some substance,my bet would be a revel a week after this years E3 event.

Expectation is the precursor of broken hearts.

I still feel Nintendo has got used to having two consoles available with their home and handhelds,but the issue with this has always been keeping both furnished with software titles,and of course it's always tough not to lean more towards the console that is selling better.

I also feel the current switch is probably not that tempting for 3DS users due to it's size,so it would be a good idea for Nintendo to create a smaller version of the Switch.

Ew not with the gloss finish please. It was bad enough for the first 3DS design. Just leaves finger prints all over it, and sweaty residue all around the buttons. Other than that, looking good. It'll never be that, though.

This design makes no sense. No removable joy cons will make several games unplayable (Arms, 1,2 Switch, and Mario Party for examples). This wouldn't be a Switch anymore. I could understand if this was a successor to the 3DS but not the Switch, this would be more of a downgrade than an upgrade.

There's no way they'd make a version without a prop-stand like this (just because it would have Joy Cons built-in doesn't mean separate standard Joy Cons couldn't connect making it worthwhile). And presence of the stand would rule out vents being located at the bottom. Other than that, I approve of the rest of the design.

@Zuhan What you're overlooking is, having controls built-in doesn't stop separate Joy Cons from also being able to connect. With that said, no features would be lost. It would also finally give them the opportunity to include a D-pad, which the "Switching" nature of the standard Joy Cons made too impractical.

VERY sleek design, but I just WOULD NOT buy a Switch without detachable joycons, and for selfish reasons I wouldn't want anyone else to buy one either.

I love it! Cloud White for me, please!

@janpampoen says you... I don't want a switch mini as I am an early adopter day one switch owner, but I am very excited for switch pro, neither have been announced so just wait.

@roadrunner343 thing is though this isn't cutting the dock, it's still there. And the Joycons are still 90% the same tech they've just lost the removability factor, which I doubt costs all that much in the grand scheme.

@Ogbert Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear - I was speaking more generally, not just this concept. I have a few other issues with this concept as well. Though, I think there could be other benefits to non-removable JoyCon, not just cost. They should allow for a more compact design (By ditching the rails/buttons/batteries) and they could potentially be reworked to be more comfortable, or include a D-Pad, since they wouldn't need to remain compatible with the rails or sideways play. Cost is one of the least interesting benefits to me, but I'd love to see a more compact Switch, DPad, more comfortable grip, better buttons/sticks, etc...

It looks purdy! How about naming each color from a fruit such as watermelon green, fancy apple red, black grape, tangy orange, lemon yellow.

Yes please!

But it won’t happen unfortunately.

Really? 1080p streaming tech that mimics Wii U isn't compatible with one of the key points of non-detachable Joy-Cons [ cutting the price ] buttons are uncomfortably close together and the revised dock means the exposed screen will be perfect for dust to accumulate.

So no thanks

I was a fan of the Wii U’s top mounted twin sticks

Love it, it would be a day 1 for me.

Edit: just invert the analog sticks, please.

Looks great, now make it 3ds size and I'm sold

I have something that looks like that it's called a VITA

Why do you guys want a new Switch, you are obviously too busy dreaming of a new one to play your old one. If you just want to waste some money I can give you my PayPal.

It really is pathetic 'I love my Switch but not enough to not want a redesigned model'.

The PS Vita design is basically a Switch mini. But a slightly larger and lighter ds would be better.

This looks real tasty. But I don't buy all these rumors. Frankly I am sick of all the so-called "industry insiders" and "analysts" spouting their opinions and guesses and the internet treating it like it has any more credence than @Octane or @Anti-Matter or @AlexOlney or myself just guessing.

@ThunderBeak Any particular reason why? I rather like taking screen shots. Any game that doesn't want the feature can disable it.

Switch Mini - ditches the dock and detatchable joycons, has built-in projector for "console" gaming, connects to normal Switch controllers for this mode. Thoughts?

Introducing...the Nintendo un-Switch!

But seriously, my top iteration improvements are anti-reflective screen, and Switch XL to make portable local co-op via Tabletop mode better (Smash, Overcooked, Towerfall)

@thatawesomedude How much are those joy cons selling for without the system again? If they did this it would force anyone who bought the "Switch Slim" to spend $80 on top of the system to play games that require them to be separate.

Very sleek, I’d love for the dock to work like that mock up.

Looks good. I was split between buying one of these and the N64 Mini, but I’ll be able to play Star Fox Grand Prix on this one so that tipped the scale.

@Zuhan This is why I think this kind of "Mini Switch" will never happen. I can just imagine the uninformed masses going into Walmart and GameStop, demanding their money back because they can't play Mario Party on their handheld. And if the poor employee tries to explain that you can spend $80 on extra controllers, then set your handheld on a table to play, get ready for more "GameStop gets trashed" videos on You-Tube.

@Zuhan If a Switch Mini does happen, I could easily see Joy Con sets getting a price drop to coincide with the launch (along with a special bundle including a grip). Besides, Nintendo does stuff like this all the time-- they'll just print on the box something like "games requiring TV/table top mode require Joy Cons sold separately". Don't forget this smaller system could easily be $80 to $100 cheaper than the standard model to begin with.

@TheFox So few things,

For 1, this would not be the first or the last game made that requires additional accessories. Kinect with Xbox, PS Eyetoy, ect, ect, ect.

Mario Party, actually and I didn't know this right now, until my laziness to find my Mario Party Case. Has a version that includes 2 Joycons, odd combo right?

Further, and this is something I have never noticed. On the back of Mario Party, it shows 3 pictures (and Arms, and probably all games) for the "Compability" It shows a Switch in docked mode, and says 1-4, it shows a Switch with the Joycons detached and Says 1-4, and it shows a Switch with Joycons not detached and has a Strike through.

This straight up tells you from the jump, non detachable joycon will not work. And its on all the games, so bases have been covered since the Start. A Mini was likely always the plan.

Want more? Easy, check out the new Hori Official joycons, that DO not offer wireless, and are much cheaper. A mini isnt really needed, as much as a Joyconless, Dockless Switch, let us choose what we want and what we dont and drop the price to 150 tablet only.

I would love the latter, over a Mini. I need another switch for Pokemon, and we already have 2 Docks, we already have 8 Joycons (I have my own set, wife too, and the kids have their own sets each) and 2 Pro controllers. We dont need, another Dock, Another Set of Joycons, ect, just another Tablet.

Still hate the idea of a Switch mini due to the fact that if you can't remove the joycons, it's no longer a switch. Like, at all. A Switch Pro makes sense because it's a revision that's still a Switch but the mini just negates the whole point. It would be like making a cheaper Wii that doesn't support motion controls and Wiimotes.

@Crono1973 Umm, no?

I want a Switch mini as we have a Switch, soon will have 2, and my Daughter wants her own. So does my Son, So does my wife. A Cheaper mini, makes that more realistic.

@cyberlocc Nintendo doesn't support people with multiple consoles. You can't share your games with your family members unless you buy physical.

Anyway, my point is that you guys spend so much time wishing for a Switch redesign that I am amazed that you bought a Switch in it's current form.

Looks great.

Forget the clover dock thing. It is a mediocre home console that will be even more behind once PS5 hits.

Sell it as the best handheld ever made. Call Samsung, get the new AMD chip. Done!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tiriasresearch/2019/06/03/amd-licenses-graphics-technology-to-samsung/#6e64fc836a12

@Crono1973, Yes yes u can share games? You can share games exactly the same way you can with Xbox, PS.

Once again, the switch in it's current design is a great Console. Not a great handheld. It's priced to high to get the kids one each, ect.

The mini, will be a boon for everyone. It will put switches in the hands of more people, people that maybe couldn't afford one at current MSRP, or can't justify it. Which leads to more sales which leads to more support, which leads to more games. It's only a positive. The real question is why are you so against it?

I owned a 3ds, and couldn't wait for the 2ds XL. Now that it's out, I gave my daughter the 3ds XL and got a 2ds. I love 2ds, and 3ds the games ect. I cannot stand the stupid 3d screen. It was the stupidest most useless console feature I have ever seen. I still owned it.

This is how it should have look from the beginning but whatever if they release this model I might buy it sooner rather than later

Oh look it’s a vita. That will sell like hotcakes. /s

I can't believe so many of you think this looks better than the actual Switch. This looks like a generic smartphone design, doesn't stand out at all. This is boring design in the same way the Wii U was.

Holy crap, this almost looks official.

@Strumpan Don't like it, don't ruin it for everyone else.

@Heavyarms55 I never guess, I speak the truth.

@BensonUii Maybe they have detachable Analog Caps/Sticks?

Vita meets the 3DS. Looks pretty nice, and I especially like the dock idea and the symmetrically placed analogue sticks. The offset sticks drive me nuts on the current switch. Having to hold my right thumb in some freakish claw like position to reach the face buttons over the analogue stick is incredibly uncomfortable. It limits my portable gaming to 15 minutes at most before cramp sets in. The joycons are right up there with the Wii Remote and and the N64 pad as Nintendo's worst ever controllers. And to think the same company made the Gamecube pad...

Yeah this looks lovely in renders but practically, it would be horrid. That sort of plastic is a fingerprint magnet and would like tired and old very quickly. The control sticks are also too close to the outer edge so I don't think they'd be comfortable. But it's a nice looking design and dock idea is pretty great. It's a little Vita looking though too which I think they should avoid.

Should have added some go faster stripes.

I'd love for Nintendo to really push their hardware design like this, but it'll never happen. Still, lovely concepts!

These look incredible! Would definitely be happy to see Nintendo make something like this!

@cyberlocc You can share digital games across multiple Switches?

@Crono1973 You can share digital games between 2 switches. You have a primary console, which games are available to all users on. Then you can have another console with your games available when signed in.

This is the exact same way that Xbox1 and PS4 works.

Really? I didn't know that. Can both consoles be signed into the same account at the same time (except playing different games)?

@janpampoen Speak for yourself, wet blanket.

@MrBlacky Yes, but I would prefer they made one that did rather than a more powerful Switch or a Switch Mini.

@janpampoen I’m a day 1 adopter and I don’t expect to get anything for free, and I sure would love a lighter, more powerful, battery efficient, brighter, more fully featured revision and would have no problem purchasing it dat 1 again. What I don’t understand Is why something that you purchased over 2 years ago makes any impact on wanting an improved version other than it sounding like you can’t afford it. Sell your old one to set off the price of the new one. Problem solved.

Wow... incredible concept! I see it perfect for a Switch mini/Lite
Even through I prefer thumb sticks rather than circle pads

Looks pretty sleek.

@MoshPitches Thanks, the designer took my home design and gave no credit :/
https://rmrdnl.com/nintendo-switch-ui-mockup

@rjejr Nintendo does alright when it wants to hit "cool". I think the Switch is cool, Zelda BotW is cool, etc. However, you are right about this product. This is for people with a need for an ultra portable version and especially people with small hands — kids. It needs to look fun and should exude durability to parents. This design is a total fail in that regard.

This is more a refinement design to make it sleeker and with a nice dock experience. Really don't think that's Nintendo's target, this time.

For me, it's not Vita though. I'm still giving it 50/50 odds for a flip top to protect the screen and be more pocketable with similar mass.

Looks really nice, though.

@aaronsullivan Sorry, no way no how the Switch is cool. It has a fan in a portable, the bezel is too big, the dock covers 75% of the screen for some reason, it's made out of some cheap feeling plastic that anybody 3D printing one would be embarrassed about.

I mean sure it's great for the money and it functions unbelievablly well for a hybrid handheld, but nobody is ever going to pick that up and think Apple made it. Even the 20 year old iPods with the horrible scroll wheel design look more modern by comparison.

Switch is all function, no form. Which is what you get when you put a PS3 into the palm of your hand for $300. It would be $1,500 if Apple made it, and it would look like it.

And Switch is still there best looking console. 😂 OK, maybe New 2DS XL. Actually it is New 2DS XL come to think of it.

Switch Vita won't have a cover, sorry. I think they'll save that for Switch DS. And yeah, it may be a few years off yet but I do think they'll make one, how else will people play ports of all the 3DS games, and Starfox Zero?

@sas0ng
Yea but in the early leaks it’s already said that the mini switch or what ever it will be called will not have detachable joy con controllers so you may not like that but personally it’s a constraint I wouldn’t mind to have a smaller possibly iPhone 6plus sized variant of the switch cause the current one is massive as a portable.
I’m willing to pay as high as $499 for one that’s small enough to pocket and maybe has blue tooth headset support possibly.

@invictus4000
Taking away detachable Joy cons doesn’t negate the whole switch concept as long as you can still dock it, or connect it to the TV via cable it’s still a portable/home console hybrid.
No where near the level of hyperbole that you suggested, “same as taking away motion controls on the Wii”.
I have an OG Switch and would happily buy a smaller pocketable Switch with brighter screen/ better battery management and I would pay up for it as high as $499.
Now, I don’t know how achievable it is, the GPU is power hungry and generates a fair bit of heat, is it even possible to substantially shrink the system...we will have to wait and see I guess.

@rjejr The Dock isn't cool (ironically), I'll give you that, but the nobody hides their Switch at the college where I teach. They are out and owners are proud of them. People actually buy stickers and deck them out, too. Cool is subjective, but you sound like you are describing premium hardware style and that is for phones, TVs, computers, but on gaming systems it is almost a sign of waste, in my opinion. If it feels solid, which Switch mostly does, and can look sleek and trendy, it is cool — gotta ignore that stand and the flippy-flappy cartridge door, though! Nintendo does this kind of cool I'm going to brand quirky-chic, so I get why many would disagree with me. haha

Nintendo doesn't really do premium feeling, though the Wii era was interesting in that it had these quirky remote controllers and strange take on what a console was, yet it felt very premium for plastic at that time. "quirky-chic!"

@aaronsullivan "quirky-chic" seems right, but it's a bit too fanboi hipstery for my liking. Why should phones get to look cool but gaming systems have to have useless stands and game card covers just waiting to fall off?

Do the college kids put stickers on their Switch Docks or the Switch themselves? Was just having that discussion last night w/ the fam, that I'd rather my son have a $199 Switch w/o the dock, grip or HDMI cable than $299 w/ the dock when he goes off to college b/c I didn't think a TV dock would get that much use on a college campus, he'd be playing it in portable mode 99% of the time. But you're there and I'm not.

And I almost have the fam convinced that a Switch DS is coming, but probably not until the Switch 2 in 5 years. If only for a Kid Icarus Uprising port. Even my wife and I like that game and we didn't even play it. Really needs a sequel. Maybe they've been saving Pikmin 4 for the Switch DS so we can use the bottom screen for the map. Not sure I can go back to 1 screen for Pikmin.

Either way, probably no new hardware tomorrow, they'll save it for September when they announce the Pokemon game bundles. Not here, but in another thread I posted a bunch of 3DS Pokemon bundles. Nintneod likes those, a lot. That's the time for either the Mini of just a dockless bundle. $199 is the sweet spot for kids, $249 w/ the game bundled. Tomorrow is about the games.

@rjejr yeah, I think Nintendo even stated no hardware at E3, right? Don’t remember the specifics.

@aaronsullivan Nintneod stated "no NEW" hardware at E3". Which is their way of saying "We won't be showing a new Switch 2, but we will be showing a "revised" old Switch portable."

Plus, Nintneod always lies about stuff like this, constantly saying things aren't coming days or weeks before announcing them, then pretending they never said that. It's what they do.

But I still think E3 isn't the place for them to talk hardware. It certainly isn't the time to announce a $199 dockless Switch for the holidays, but I'm getting #SwitchEunuch trending whenever they do.

@cyberlocc well... MK8 is one of the top selling switch games and uses multiplayer on the same screen. The same with Smash. And now we got Marvel alliance.

People with friends do play on tabletop mode and do care about having games that allow multiplayer in the same screen. It is part if Nintendo's legacy.

What makes the Switch lite special?? It doesnt have 2 screens, or 3d, or dock mode.... It is just a Vita with a 720p screen.

Under that logik they could just sell a cheaper switch that only works on dock mode for people who wont play on handheld. Which would be a wii u without the gamepad... And that proved to be a failure.

Can I have 1? Or maybe 2 lol...