@Clark2k Dark souls is kinda like Pokemon in this regard - the particulars change with each game and there's quality of life improvements, but the core gameplay remains largely unchanged. I'd suggest playing Elden Ring first, and if you enjoy it you can go back and check out the first Dark Souls.
@cupzealous Yeah, people shouldn't listen to you. Whether someone is a newbie or a veteran, there's nothing wrong with wanting to start with an actual weapon and armor, especially for certain playstyles that might be waiting a while to get their favored equipment otherwise. Wretch is A option, not the best option, and that goes for all these games.
Very interesting. Your choice of class doesn't matter in the long run, but many of them have unique equipment that you can't get for a while otherwise. I'm interested to see the specific gear that these classes start with.
Excellent. A whole new generation of players can head straight to the castle and get their heads smashed in by Margit The Fell.
Jokes aside, even though I've already played it to death I'll be buying Elden Ring again, playing it on the go and with potentially new content will be worth it.
@MeanBeanEgg I'm sure in some other reality that might be considered clever. I was trying to mention how perpetually horny people are, usually guys, without spelling it out but here we are.
I can't say anything about the game itself, but loads of companies in Japan do this sort of thing because males are gonna be males. Expect a lot more headlines like this in the next 4 years, considering the way the world is going.
This game is sadistic. Actually, genuinely sadistic. There are soulslikes with less mean-spirited design decisions. A hearty helping of good luck to anyone who attempts to finish this game.
Fantastic music. I already have most of it on my phone as MP3s, and I'll still have them when this service is gone. I miss the days when people owned things by default instead of that becoming a potential ordeal.
If you're bothered by frame rate issues with this game or any other Nintendo game, you're playing on the wrong hardware. I enjoy Nintendo games and consider any technical issues as part of the package, considering Nintendo's long-standing trend of having consoles with the best game feel and less than spectacular stats.
It does look pretty neat, but honestly? The use of Zelda assets is the only reason anyone cares about this. If this were the same but had it's own style this site and most of it's users would ignore it.
To me, it depends on whether the game respects the player's time or not. I was struggling to complete the Mass Effect trilogy via the legendary edition with all the padding and running around those three games have, but I'm 250 hours into Elden Ring because getting around is pretty swift there and it doesn't take long to find something to do.
I recall seeing some pretty ardent nft defenders in these comments previously. Where are they now? Shouldn't they be overjoyed that Olympic nfts are on the table? Heh.
Anyway, the Olympics haven't been about anything except money for a long time so I'm not at all surprised by this.
I loved the first three denpa men games and played them all to completion, but apparently the titles that didn't come here got into REALLY hideous monetization. I will check this out but probably won't play too long since I'm sure that trend will continue with this "free" game.
You know, when it exists. Because it doesn't currently.
Is Shovel Knight an icon? Probably, just because they've marketed the game to oblivion. Dozens of appearances in other games, merchandise out the wazoo, there was a period where you couldn't get away from this guy if you were into indie games. It's all the more remarkable because if you remove the shovel, it's just a completely generic medieval character with a slightly unusual color.
There's the old phrase "familiarity breeds contempt". I acknowledge that Shovel Knight remains a fantastic game, one that I enjoyed immensely at the time, but I have had enough.
We just need more options in general. Button mapping and audio control are always glorious.
For example, Splatoon. I love Splatoon and it has great music. However, after thousands of hours playing all three Splatoon games, the music can GO. I've heard every track innumerable times and having the option to turn the music off to focus on the game's vital combat sound cues, or put on different music, would enrich the gameplay SO much.
Maybe there's a variety of reasons, but really, every big corporation does this for one reason in particular: If corporations train their monkey customers to see products as being made by corporations and not by people, they don't need to treat the people behind their games very well, do they?
Considering the huge number of layoffs over the last couple years combined with fans ignoring those layoffs in favor of whatever exciting new thing the corporations are doing, dehumanizing their workforce is a strategy that works depressingly well.
I guarantee that at least one person in this comment section is guilty of this. I've certainly seen enough people leaping to the defense of corporations, not so much individual creators.
Cool, more people get to suffer by playing Sting Entertainment's games, the company that despises everyone that plays their games.
Seriously, their games aren't bad but there are genuinely malicious design decisions scattered throughout their work history. Do a mini-game to skip a stone across water FIFTY TIMES! Surely you get some neat prize for that, right? Nah, meaningless points for your meaningless score.
There's something vaguely sinister about that game, I won't repeat the various allegations. I'm just waiting for the bomb to drop. When we get news that the palworld devs have criminal ties or even engaged in criminal activity themselves, or something along those lines. There's no way there isn't something going on.
I like one explanation that I've heard. Why do companies keep leaping on the latest tech bandwagon and embracing nfts and ai and other shifty junk that's come and gone? Because the executives at the top sink money into these things and do what they can to get a return on their investment.
If all these tech fads actually amounted to something, companies and fanboys wouldn't have to work so hard to push this stuff, to push their angle that THIS IS THE FUTURE, THIS IS INEVITABLE, GIVE US YOUR MONEY because that's always what it comes down to. You'd think that the tech would speak for itself without shills shouting their glory.
Like procedural generation, a algorithm tool. And that's all AI is by the way, "artificial intelligence" is just a buzzword, there's nothing actually intelligent about algorithms. Anyway, procedural generation has been a useful tool for developers in video games and other fields for decades, and you don't hear people shouting from the rooftops about it because it works and it doesn't screw people over and, oh yeah, it doesn't have the potential, real or imagined, to generate gobs of money.
tldr ai is dumb and I felt like rambling some more about it
@HeadPirate OpenAI literally stated in court, in legal writing, that it would be "impossible" to create AI tools without copyrighted material. It's on the books that AI is theft. You're not an artist, you just type prompts, and the tools you use are only going to be subject to more and more litigation as time goes on if they insist on helping themselves to legally protected works.
It's square enix. They cancelled SO many games last year. Investing in foamstars is pointless because they'll have announced it's shutdown by this same time next year.
Ah yes, the company that turned a blind eye to sexual misconduct in the workplace, among other allegations, is exactly who needs to be telling us what to get comfortable with.
I can't help but compare this to Infernax, which covered similar ground but came up with it's own world and characters. It wasn't this blatant. These sorts of references were already getting worn out a decade ago. On paper the game looks interesting but we'll have to see if the gameplay can overcome the lack of an identity.
Considering how many stereotypes and other obnoxiousness gamers inflict on themselves and their own communities, you can't possibly expect anyone else to be any different.
These comments seem about right. People can do literally any underhanded activity, and as long as they're popular or do something that people like, you'll get defenders and fence-sitters.
Someday we're going to find out that some youtuber committed a murder and the comments will be full of people doing mental gymnastics to continue supporting them.
Anyway, the devs are free to do as they please with their own game. Anyone who has a problem with that can simply not play it. Plenty of other games out there.
This game is a conundrum for me, but to be fair it has to do with the company, not the game itself. Do I get it on the switch and deal with the performance issues, or do I wait for the inevitable Steam port and see how long Square-Enix taints it with Denuvo before they remove it?
The game itself looks fantastic, where and when to play it are the big questions. Hmmm.
Can't say I'm surprised. Aside from the obvious problem of the team signing up with a corporation that was never going to go anywhere, Timesplitters is a product of it's time. The only real thing it has going for it is the aesthetic, everything that this franchise does has been done better by both big-name companies and indies.
I love Timesplitters and was crazy enough to 100% all three games, but not everything needs to come back.
I'm old enough that I played this game when it was new. I didn't think it was anything special at the time, and I'm not surprised my opinion hasn't changed.
Strip away the license and it's just another bog-standard platformer action game from an era when such games were legion. The Gargoyles license (and that show WAS great) is the only reason to care about this.
I play a ton of indie games. Indie devs don't have the budget for physical releases outside of companies like Limited Run, so it's not like I really have a choice. But, I'd still buy the version that can take physical games just to keep my options open.
Survivor-type games. Lots of them. Holocure and God of Weapons being the big ones currently. I'm also (somehow) still into Splatoon 3 and will probably load that up if friends are about.
Sounds like the writer's issue isn't FOMO, it's social media saturation. While that's tricky for them to resolve, for anyone else... just don't engage.
Whether you like a game or not, your experience is your own. If you let anyone else impact your experience, be it through FOMO or comparing yourself to others or reviews you don't like, and so on, you are genuinely and truly an idiot.
@inenai "without the risk of someone stealing it, faking it, etc." Except people engage in criminal activity using crypto constantly, and there's tons of evidence thereof. I didn't know about the term "rug pull" until I started looking into crypto. For anyone who wants a decent summary of just how atrocious things are with crypto these days, google "web3 is going just great."
So all the DLC stuff is coming back. Good. Furthermore, now that you can change the main abilities on gear, this stuff will be far more useful cause you can optimize it like anything else. I plan on making the ridiculous power armor my chunk farming outfit.
@timschel If I can play without chargers shooting me through walls because the shot looked good on their end, that's good enough for me. Splatoon 2 was a mess.
Besides, samey content isn't something Nintendo is uniquely guilty of. If you want truly new ideas and content, you're not going to find it in the AAA space anymore.
These reviews are fair enough. The gaming-focused websites seem to be reviewing the game well, not so much websites with other focuses - somehow we're on the third iteration of a competitive online shooter and there are still people basing their critiques entirely off the single-player content. Amazing.
...I'm sorry, but isn't this the website that constantly posts articles to the effect of "these games deserve remakes/ports/whatever"? You don't get to add fuel to the fire and then complain about it.
That said, video game companies care nothing about their history unless they can make money from it. If you want real backwards compatibility and preservation of old titles, just emulate them.
@VinylCreep This industry is full of sleazy elements and ties to underhanded if not outright criminal activity and THAT'S your breaking point? Weird hill to die on but at least you're dead
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Re: Elden Ring On Switch 2 Will Introduce Two Brand New Character Classes
@Clark2k Dark souls is kinda like Pokemon in this regard - the particulars change with each game and there's quality of life improvements, but the core gameplay remains largely unchanged. I'd suggest playing Elden Ring first, and if you enjoy it you can go back and check out the first Dark Souls.
Re: Elden Ring On Switch 2 Will Introduce Two Brand New Character Classes
@cupzealous Yeah, people shouldn't listen to you. Whether someone is a newbie or a veteran, there's nothing wrong with wanting to start with an actual weapon and armor, especially for certain playstyles that might be waiting a while to get their favored equipment otherwise. Wretch is A option, not the best option, and that goes for all these games.
Re: Elden Ring On Switch 2 Will Introduce Two Brand New Character Classes
Very interesting. Your choice of class doesn't matter in the long run, but many of them have unique equipment that you can't get for a while otherwise. I'm interested to see the specific gear that these classes start with.
Re: Elden Ring Coming To Switch 2
@thenikdavies Short version, it makes sense in the context of the game. I'll spare you any nerdy explaining.
Re: Elden Ring Coming To Switch 2
Excellent. A whole new generation of players can head straight to the castle and get their heads smashed in by Margit The Fell.
Jokes aside, even though I've already played it to death I'll be buying Elden Ring again, playing it on the go and with potentially new content will be worth it.
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Refused Classification In The West Over 'Expression Restrictions'
@MeanBeanEgg I'm sure in some other reality that might be considered clever. I was trying to mention how perpetually horny people are, usually guys, without spelling it out but here we are.
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Refused Classification In The West Over 'Expression Restrictions'
I can't say anything about the game itself, but loads of companies in Japan do this sort of thing because males are gonna be males. Expect a lot more headlines like this in the next 4 years, considering the way the world is going.
Re: Riviera: The Promised Land Remaster Gets Western Release Date On Switch
This game is sadistic. Actually, genuinely sadistic. There are soulslikes with less mean-spirited design decisions. A hearty helping of good luck to anyone who attempts to finish this game.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Update Adds Classic SNES Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
Fantastic music. I already have most of it on my phone as MP3s, and I'll still have them when this service is gone. I miss the days when people owned things by default instead of that becoming a potential ordeal.
Re: Come On, Where Are The Composer Credits in 'Nintendo Music'?
There are better ways to acquire the music in this app.
Re: Poll: Are You Bothered By The Frame Rate In Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom?
If you're bothered by frame rate issues with this game or any other Nintendo game, you're playing on the wrong hardware. I enjoy Nintendo games and consider any technical issues as part of the package, considering Nintendo's long-standing trend of having consoles with the best game feel and less than spectacular stats.
Re: Random: Shigeru Miyamoto Apparently Isn't Credited In Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom
Good. Miyamoto is a legend whose time has past.
Re: Retro Horror Game 'Faith: The Unholy Trinity' Launches On Switch Next Week
@Gamemoose Gameplay has never been the priority of horror games, now or in the past.
Re: Atari 50 DLC Adds 19 Games And Launches Later This Week
Emulation exists, just saying. No one who actually worked on these games is going to get any money from this.
Re: Random: Zelda Fan Project Turns 'A Link To The Past' Into Roguelike Dungeon Crawler
It does look pretty neat, but honestly? The use of Zelda assets is the only reason anyone cares about this. If this were the same but had it's own style this site and most of it's users would ignore it.
Re: Random: "The Time Players Spend In A Game Is A Cost" - Sakurai Talks Long Runtimes
To me, it depends on whether the game respects the player's time or not. I was struggling to complete the Mass Effect trilogy via the legendary edition with all the padding and running around those three games have, but I'm 250 hours into Elden Ring because getting around is pretty swift there and it doesn't take long to find something to do.
Re: Braid: Anniversary Edition Sales Have Been "Utterly Terrible", Says Creator
lol. lmao, even.
Re: Rumour: Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games "Finished"
I recall seeing some pretty ardent nft defenders in these comments previously. Where are they now? Shouldn't they be overjoyed that Olympic nfts are on the table? Heh.
Anyway, the Olympics haven't been about anything except money for a long time so I'm not at all surprised by this.
Re: PSA: The New Denpa Men Is Available Now On The Switch eShop
I loved the first three denpa men games and played them all to completion, but apparently the titles that didn't come here got into REALLY hideous monetization. I will check this out but probably won't play too long since I'm sure that trend will continue with this "free" game.
You know, when it exists. Because it doesn't currently.
Re: Soapbox: Metroid’s Mother Brain And The Rewind Dilemma
Play games however you like, and if you have an issue with someone else playing a game in a different manner than you, sit down and examine your life.
Re: Talking Point: Is Shovel Knight Now A Retro Gaming Icon?
Is Shovel Knight an icon? Probably, just because they've marketed the game to oblivion. Dozens of appearances in other games, merchandise out the wazoo, there was a period where you couldn't get away from this guy if you were into indie games. It's all the more remarkable because if you remove the shovel, it's just a completely generic medieval character with a slightly unusual color.
There's the old phrase "familiarity breeds contempt". I acknowledge that Shovel Knight remains a fantastic game, one that I enjoyed immensely at the time, but I have had enough.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want Quality And Performance Options For Nintendo's 'Switch 2' Games?
We just need more options in general. Button mapping and audio control are always glorious.
For example, Splatoon. I love Splatoon and it has great music. However, after thousands of hours playing all three Splatoon games, the music can GO. I've heard every track innumerable times and having the option to turn the music off to focus on the game's vital combat sound cues, or put on different music, would enrich the gameplay SO much.
Re: Review: Braid: Anniversary Edition (Switch) - Exquisite Commentary Elevates This Indie All-Timer
You can tell who among the commenters here has no issues and/or agrees with Blow's repugnant views.
Anyway, I won't deny that the game itself is pretty good, but the art and the artist have the same bank account so no thanks.
Re: Cowabunga! A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Roguelike Is Coming To Switch This July
I looked up the developer. Their previous games are mobile MOBAs. I'm not filled with confidence based on their previous work.
Re: Talking Point: Why Isn't Nintendo Revealing Its Partner Devs Before Launch?
Maybe there's a variety of reasons, but really, every big corporation does this for one reason in particular: If corporations train their monkey customers to see products as being made by corporations and not by people, they don't need to treat the people behind their games very well, do they?
Considering the huge number of layoffs over the last couple years combined with fans ignoring those layoffs in favor of whatever exciting new thing the corporations are doing, dehumanizing their workforce is a strategy that works depressingly well.
I guarantee that at least one person in this comment section is guilty of this. I've certainly seen enough people leaping to the defense of corporations, not so much individual creators.
Re: Cult GBA RPG 'Riviera: The Promised Land' Is Getting An HD Remaster
Cool, more people get to suffer by playing Sting Entertainment's games, the company that despises everyone that plays their games.
Seriously, their games aren't bad but there are genuinely malicious design decisions scattered throughout their work history. Do a mini-game to skip a stone across water FIFTY TIMES! Surely you get some neat prize for that, right? Nah, meaningless points for your meaningless score.
Re: Talking Point: Is Knowing A Game's Ending Really That Bad?
Spoilers have never bothered me. Even if I find out how a game ends or a major plot twist, it's still interesting to see how events unfold.
Re: Yes, Nintendo Is Aware Of Palworld's Existence
There's something vaguely sinister about that game, I won't repeat the various allegations. I'm just waiting for the bomb to drop. When we get news that the palworld devs have criminal ties or even engaged in criminal activity themselves, or something along those lines. There's no way there isn't something going on.
Re: Random: Square Enix & Foamstars Producer Is Bored Of Splatoon Comparisons
I like one explanation that I've heard. Why do companies keep leaping on the latest tech bandwagon and embracing nfts and ai and other shifty junk that's come and gone? Because the executives at the top sink money into these things and do what they can to get a return on their investment.
If all these tech fads actually amounted to something, companies and fanboys wouldn't have to work so hard to push this stuff, to push their angle that THIS IS THE FUTURE, THIS IS INEVITABLE, GIVE US YOUR MONEY because that's always what it comes down to. You'd think that the tech would speak for itself without shills shouting their glory.
Like procedural generation, a algorithm tool. And that's all AI is by the way, "artificial intelligence" is just a buzzword, there's nothing actually intelligent about algorithms. Anyway, procedural generation has been a useful tool for developers in video games and other fields for decades, and you don't hear people shouting from the rooftops about it because it works and it doesn't screw people over and, oh yeah, it doesn't have the potential, real or imagined, to generate gobs of money.
tldr ai is dumb and I felt like rambling some more about it
Re: Random: Square Enix & Foamstars Producer Is Bored Of Splatoon Comparisons
@HeadPirate OpenAI literally stated in court, in legal writing, that it would be "impossible" to create AI tools without copyrighted material. It's on the books that AI is theft. You're not an artist, you just type prompts, and the tools you use are only going to be subject to more and more litigation as time goes on if they insist on helping themselves to legally protected works.
Source, one of them anyway: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/01/openai-says-its-impossible-to-create-useful-ai-models-without-copyrighted-material/
Re: Random: Square Enix & Foamstars Producer Is Bored Of Splatoon Comparisons
It's square enix. They cancelled SO many games last year. Investing in foamstars is pointless because they'll have announced it's shutdown by this same time next year.
Re: Players Need To Start "Feeling Comfortable" With Not Owning Games, Says Ubisoft Subs Boss
Ah yes, the company that turned a blind eye to sexual misconduct in the workplace, among other allegations, is exactly who needs to be telling us what to get comfortable with.
Re: 8-Bit Parody 'The Transylvania Adventure Of Simon Quest' Comes To Switch In 2025
I can't help but compare this to Infernax, which covered similar ground but came up with it's own world and characters. It wasn't this blatant. These sorts of references were already getting worn out a decade ago. On paper the game looks interesting but we'll have to see if the gameplay can overcome the lack of an identity.
Re: Soapbox: "Go Outside, Get Some Fresh Air" - Why Won't Outmoded Gamer Stereotypes Die?
Considering how many stereotypes and other obnoxiousness gamers inflict on themselves and their own communities, you can't possibly expect anyone else to be any different.
Re: Sea Of Stars Developer Sabotage Replacing 'The Completionist' NPC
These comments seem about right. People can do literally any underhanded activity, and as long as they're popular or do something that people like, you'll get defenders and fence-sitters.
Someday we're going to find out that some youtuber committed a murder and the comments will be full of people doing mental gymnastics to continue supporting them.
Anyway, the devs are free to do as they please with their own game. Anyone who has a problem with that can simply not play it. Plenty of other games out there.
Re: Review: Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince (Switch) - A Near-Royal Return For The Addictive Monster-Catching Spin-Off
This game is a conundrum for me, but to be fair it has to do with the company, not the game itself. Do I get it on the switch and deal with the performance issues, or do I wait for the inevitable Steam port and see how long Square-Enix taints it with Denuvo before they remove it?
The game itself looks fantastic, where and when to play it are the big questions. Hmmm.
Re: Embracer May Soon Be Closing 'Timesplitters' Studio Free Radical Design
Can't say I'm surprised. Aside from the obvious problem of the team signing up with a corporation that was never going to go anywhere, Timesplitters is a product of it's time. The only real thing it has going for it is the aesthetic, everything that this franchise does has been done better by both big-name companies and indies.
I love Timesplitters and was crazy enough to 100% all three games, but not everything needs to come back.
Re: Review: Gargoyles Remastered - One For Cult Disney Die-Hards Only
I'm old enough that I played this game when it was new. I didn't think it was anything special at the time, and I'm not surprised my opinion hasn't changed.
Strip away the license and it's just another bog-standard platformer action game from an era when such games were legion. The Gargoyles license (and that show WAS great) is the only reason to care about this.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Buy A Digital-Only 'Switch 2'?
I play a ton of indie games. Indie devs don't have the budget for physical releases outside of companies like Limited Run, so it's not like I really have a choice. But, I'd still buy the version that can take physical games just to keep my options open.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (September 23rd)
Survivor-type games. Lots of them. Holocure and God of Weapons being the big ones currently. I'm also (somehow) still into Splatoon 3 and will probably load that up if friends are about.
Re: Soapbox: FOMO Nearly Ruined Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom For Me
Sounds like the writer's issue isn't FOMO, it's social media saturation. While that's tricky for them to resolve, for anyone else... just don't engage.
Whether you like a game or not, your experience is your own. If you let anyone else impact your experience, be it through FOMO or comparing yourself to others or reviews you don't like, and so on, you are genuinely and truly an idiot.
Re: Netflix Is Bringing Back 'Onimusha' As An Anime Helmed By Takashi Miike
Doesn't matter if this is good or not, it's going to get be cancelled. Netflix has a history.
Re: Square Enix Is Now Part Of A Blockchain
@inenai "without the risk of someone stealing it, faking it, etc." Except people engage in criminal activity using crypto constantly, and there's tons of evidence thereof. I didn't know about the term "rug pull" until I started looking into crypto. For anyone who wants a decent summary of just how atrocious things are with crypto these days, google "web3 is going just great."
Re: Splatoon 3 amiibo Unlocks Detailed, Here's What You'll Receive
So all the DLC stuff is coming back. Good. Furthermore, now that you can change the main abilities on gear, this stuff will be far more useful cause you can optimize it like anything else. I plan on making the ridiculous power armor my chunk farming outfit.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Splatoon 3
@timschel If I can play without chargers shooting me through walls because the shot looked good on their end, that's good enough for me. Splatoon 2 was a mess.
Besides, samey content isn't something Nintendo is uniquely guilty of. If you want truly new ideas and content, you're not going to find it in the AAA space anymore.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Splatoon 3
These reviews are fair enough. The gaming-focused websites seem to be reviewing the game well, not so much websites with other focuses - somehow we're on the third iteration of a competitive online shooter and there are still people basing their critiques entirely off the single-player content. Amazing.
Re: Soapbox: Endless Zelda Remakes Are A Poor Substitute For Backwards Compatibility
...I'm sorry, but isn't this the website that constantly posts articles to the effect of "these games deserve remakes/ports/whatever"? You don't get to add fuel to the fire and then complain about it.
That said, video game companies care nothing about their history unless they can make money from it. If you want real backwards compatibility and preservation of old titles, just emulate them.
Re: Talking Point: What Was Your First Mario Kart Game?
Super Mario Kart. I'm a fossil and going by the results, so are many of you.
Re: SNK Announces Neo Geo Pocket Color Selection Vol.2, Coming Soon
@VinylCreep This industry is full of sleazy elements and ties to underhanded if not outright criminal activity and THAT'S your breaking point? Weird hill to die on but at least you're dead
Re: Epic Games Invests In 'Horizon Chase Turbo' Developer Aquiris
Let's hope they don't pull an EA and gut the company.