As long as have developers have quotas to meet and executives breathing down their necks, want to reach a certain gameplay length for the sake of a store page/box selling point, or are just plain lazy, grinding and content padding will exist in some shape and form. This problem has existed before many people on this site were BORN, and it's a problem that will continue after we're gone as well.
@TimeVolt What compelled you to respond to comments on an article that's close to half a year old? What do you gain from this post that no one besides the tagged people will ever see?
This is pointless, but that's why it's so novel. I adore projects that are completed just because the creator can. Who knows, perhaps the coding used in such a project will kickstart something positive elsewhere!
Not that any storefront is perfect, but this is a good solution applied to the wrong problem. If the Eshop got an overhaul to make games more visible and easily explored, this wouldn't be necessary.
Do these games hold any appeal if you put aside the licenses attached to them? I always passed them over because I have no interest in comic books, Star Wars, etc.
@masterLEON Just keep in mind that the people who actually made these retro games aren't making a dime off of these ports and remasters. The money from your purchase goes to corporations and third parties. If you want to purchase these games on modern platforms, you have every right to, but whether or not emulation is used has zero impact on the decision to port these games, aside from spawning lawsuits when a company doesn't want the competition. Hi Sega! Hi Nintendo!
I want a new F-Zero, but I know it either won't happen or won't feel the same, considering how long it's been. I'm okay with the series being at rest, though hope springs eternal.
Ah yes, the game that patched in microtransactions after launch so they wouldn't affect initial review scores and publicity is now offering a free trial to bring in fresh customers, a time-honored tactic used by drug dealers the world over. Sheesh.
Hooooo boy. Remember how people thought they removed Mike Tyson from Punch-Out because of his scandals, and that still gets referenced here and there to this day? Just try to imagine the eternal PR nightmare Nintendo would have had if THIS psychopath got involved with them and he inevitably crashes and burns.
I played enough of these needlessly punishing games back in the day that I can live without this. Game design back then was pushed by the desire to get more quarters or pad game length, it's not something that needs revisiting. Of course, if they decide to put microtransactions in this then we'll have come full circle.
I mean, we're talking about the same fanbase that performed a DDOS attack on a reviewer's website for DARING to give Breath of the Wild a 7 out of 10. "Gamers" engage in borderline and outright criminal activity over stupid electronic products and don't really deal with the consequences of their actions. Everyone in this comments section who's dismissing her "thick skin" comments should think about the behavior they're enabling.
Koei is kinda like shadow company TOSE when it comes to their Warriors games - their output is only as good as the effort their licensing partner puts in. I like these games but I won't deny that the quality is all over the place.
Well, I'm glad that folks here aren't falling for this tripe. "New" retro games are a dime a dozen, running on original hardware doesn't justify the absurd price tags this developer wants.
@Andy_Witmyer People like you are precisely why many folks live in fear. As the last year has shown, all it takes is one mask-defying idiot to infect dozens or hundreds of people. Heck, that term you've misappropriated, branch covidians, is traditionally used to refer to religious people spreading the disease - because in a pandemic it's totally worth cramming people into pews and seats at the risk of their health, thinking that faith will somehow protect them. Considering the number of parishioners that have died, it clearly hasn't.
Call it "living in fear" if you want, but I'm going to protect myself from people like you, thanks.
@outsider83 I know your type, you won't realize the severity of the pandemic until someone close to you passes because of it, and maybe not even then. If you want to risk death or disfigurement, you do you.
Outstanding game, I greatly enjoyed it. I just hope this version has better netcode, I played this on PC with a friend online and the input delay was atrocious.
@BowtieShyGuy Actually, fans held their own Splatoon tournament finale, raised TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS as the cash prize, and created the most-viewed event in the history of Splatoon. Google Endgametv, the streamer for the event.
Now fans are hyped for the future of the Splatoon competitive scene after collaborating with Smash fans and showed that Nintendo's influence isn't needed for the community to thrive. Why the hell isn't NintendoLife covering THAT!?
People must buy these if they keep making them. I rather enjoy Picross, so I guess this'll go on the pile whenever I finish the puzzles I currently have.
Because I'm an obnoxious hipster iconoclast, I'm playing Fire Emblem Warriors because Age of Calamity didn't interest me. Getting it new, on sale, for 20 bucks kinda helped with that decision.
@ALinkttPresent I suggest looking up Legends of Localization. There's a lot going on with RPGs - putting aside plot dialogue, you've got NPCs and menus and item descriptions and so on. Making sure all of that is translated and actually makes sense in the context of the specific screen it's on remains a huge undertaking to this day.
@KimBread My apologies for being that guy and saying "Actually", but the series has had weird cyberpunk elements from the start, with the SaGa/Final Fantasy Legend trilogy on Game Boy.
Man, what I'd give for a remake of those games - nothing else lets you have a mutant, a dragon, and a robot in your party, or kill god with a chainsaw.
Of course, any value this list has is invalidated by the fact that we and by extension competitors get to see it. Capcom would be fools not to switch up their plans after this occurred.
Leakers are scum. If a game or an announcement or whatever is going to happen, it'll happen. Knowing ahead of time or having a release date move doesn't really change anything in the long run, does it? Ugh.
Many people like to live beyond the immediate moment. You'll be able to play Mario Kart in 10 years, any of them. This will be dead and gone by then. Even putting aside the inability to keep something for posterity with this design choice, being so cavalier about not owning the things like that you purchase, like some folks are, is how consumer rights are eroded. I can only speak for myself of course, but the possibility of having any digital good, of any kind, arbitrarily taken away from me because of forces beyond my control is kinda chilling in my eyes.
But then, I grew up in the days when you purchased a product, it was a physical product, and you were free to do as you pleased with it while it's in your possession. It's kinda sad that this can seem "old-fashioned" these days.
For me, it's old-school shooters of any kind. Getting in the zone and filling the screen with bullets, mine and the enemy's, will always relax me. Currently on my plate are Nova Drift and Ginga Force over on Steam, and I'm revisiting classics like U.N. Squadron and R-Type as well.
Looks solid, though the niche genre of "retro 80s racer" is getting kinda crowded these days, this will have to be spectacular to stand out from what's come before.
@TimboSlice Cosmetics affect the gameplay, because players want to look cool while they're pulling off cool stunts. And games such as this are designed to entice players into spending, either with constant advertising of items for sale or using other players as walking billboards for the neat items available for real money. No developer on earth puts a cash shop into a game and expects players NOT to buy into it.
I could go on for a while. But then, anyone who unironically spouts "It’s all cosmetic!!!" is part of the problem. Carry on.
I'm hoping this crashes and burns so that consumer-hostile practices like this avoid the Switch for a little longer. I'm well aware that such sleazy corporate antics are inevitable, but the less the better for the moment. Between Nintendo's legendary output and magnificient indie games (which sell very well), Switch isn't a system that needs third-party "AAA" games to survive.
Yes, let's embrace a brand new way for companies to ensure that we don't actually own the products we buy, that's a good thing for consumers to do. All the "convenience" of cloud gaming buys you is an expiration date for your game, which will become unplayable when some outside entity decides to pull the plug.
@mikegwald You felt the need to respond not once, but four times in a row to defend this game, so it's hard to take you seriously. Turn the fanboying down just a notch. Besides, your opinions don't change the fact that this game is getting slammed in the reviews wherever you look.
Ori's design is so bland... it's a white blob. It looks like a rejected Pokémon. What does this character have to offer over the protagonist from Hollow Knight (which Ori's sequel massively cribbed from) or Quote from Cave Story or other influential indie characters?
Skip this one, folks. Fans have been complaining a-plenty elsewhere. Mandatory online connection to play even solo, less content than the previous game from close to a decade ago, and rumblings of microtransactions being added... I could go on, but short version, this is absolutely not worth your time.
Rexenoboy is correct. When diehard Dynasty Warriors fans are telling you something is crap, who can be pretty tolerant considering the franchise they love, there is a definite problem. Stay far, far away from this game. If it was a buggy mess on other hardware it's not going to be any better here.
@FX102A You're absolutely right. If cosmetics don't matter, why do people put so much effort into making their characters look cool? Oh right, because it enhances the game experience to look awesome while doing awesome stunts.
There's some free games that are honest and reasonable with their cash shops, but those are like unicorns in this market.
I can't imagine the game's doing too well if they're trotting out overpriced cross-promotions like this. I mean, On Smash the mii costumes make for fun references and they're cheap to the point of being trivial for most people. On this game, considering Sonic isn't the most successful brand out there, it reeks of desperation.
Oh boy, it's time for people to get angry at Nintendo for sharing commercials, but not the specific commercials they want! Getting so wound up over advertising, sheesh...
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Re: Soapbox: Grinding Is Poor Gameplay Design That Doesn’t Respect Your Time
As long as have developers have quotas to meet and executives breathing down their necks, want to reach a certain gameplay length for the sake of a store page/box selling point, or are just plain lazy, grinding and content padding will exist in some shape and form. This problem has existed before many people on this site were BORN, and it's a problem that will continue after we're gone as well.
Re: Ninjala's Cosmetic-Only Sonic Skins Cost An Eye-Watering £16 Each
@TimeVolt What compelled you to respond to comments on an article that's close to half a year old? What do you gain from this post that no one besides the tagged people will ever see?
Re: Random: Pokémon Red Is Being Played Inside Someone's Avatar On Twitter
This is pointless, but that's why it's so novel. I adore projects that are completed just because the creator can. Who knows, perhaps the coding used in such a project will kickstart something positive elsewhere!
Re: Switch eShop Game Prices Can No Longer Be Below $1.99, Says Death Squared Dev
Not that any storefront is perfect, but this is a good solution applied to the wrong problem. If the Eshop got an overhaul to make games more visible and easily explored, this wouldn't be necessary.
Re: The Original LEGO Marvel Super Heroes Game Appears To Be Coming To Switch
Do these games hold any appeal if you put aside the licenses attached to them? I always passed them over because I have no interest in comic books, Star Wars, etc.
Re: Feature: Switch Puts The Arcade Of Your Dreams In The Palm Of Your Hand
@masterLEON Just keep in mind that the people who actually made these retro games aren't making a dime off of these ports and remasters. The money from your purchase goes to corporations and third parties. If you want to purchase these games on modern platforms, you have every right to, but whether or not emulation is used has zero impact on the decision to port these games, aside from spawning lawsuits when a company doesn't want the competition. Hi Sega! Hi Nintendo!
Re: F-Zero GX Producer Toshihiro Nagoshi "Wouldn't Mind" Working On Nintendo's Futuristic Racing Series Again
I want a new F-Zero, but I know it either won't happen or won't feel the same, considering how long it's been. I'm okay with the series being at rest, though hope springs eternal.
Re: Feature: Switch Puts The Arcade Of Your Dreams In The Palm Of Your Hand
MAME exists, folks. Just saying.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Members Get Free Trial Of Crash Team Racing
Ah yes, the game that patched in microtransactions after launch so they wouldn't affect initial review scores and publicity is now offering a free trial to bring in fresh customers, a time-honored tactic used by drug dealers the world over. Sheesh.
Re: Random: Nintendo Had To "Politely Decline" The Chance To Work With Kanye West, Says Reggie
Hooooo boy. Remember how people thought they removed Mike Tyson from Punch-Out because of his scandals, and that still gets referenced here and there to this day? Just try to imagine the eternal PR nightmare Nintendo would have had if THIS psychopath got involved with them and he inevitably crashes and burns.
Re: Capcom Shows Off More Footage Of Ghosts 'N Goblins Resurrection
I played enough of these needlessly punishing games back in the day that I can live without this. Game design back then was pushed by the desire to get more quarters or pad game length, it's not something that needs revisiting. Of course, if they decide to put microtransactions in this then we'll have come full circle.
Re: Bandai Namco 'Winter Meltdown' Sale Discounts 25 Switch Games, Up To 84% Off
When is this stuff NOT on sale these days?
Re: Zelda Voice Actress Patricia Summersett Speaks Out About Online Negativity And Criticism
I mean, we're talking about the same fanbase that performed a DDOS attack on a reviewer's website for DARING to give Breath of the Wild a 7 out of 10. "Gamers" engage in borderline and outright criminal activity over stupid electronic products and don't really deal with the consequences of their actions. Everyone in this comments section who's dismissing her "thick skin" comments should think about the behavior they're enabling.
Re: Feature: Dynasty Warriors: A Series That's Remarkably Adept At Producing Spin-Offs
Koei is kinda like shadow company TOSE when it comes to their Warriors games - their output is only as good as the effort their licensing partner puts in. I like these games but I won't deny that the quality is all over the place.
Re: Just When You Thought 2020 Couldn't Get Any Weirder, WaterMelon's Paprium Is Finally Finished
Well, I'm glad that folks here aren't falling for this tripe. "New" retro games are a dime a dozen, running on original hardware doesn't justify the absurd price tags this developer wants.
Re: Feature: Why Open A Video Game Shop During A Global Pandemic?
@Andy_Witmyer People like you are precisely why many folks live in fear. As the last year has shown, all it takes is one mask-defying idiot to infect dozens or hundreds of people. Heck, that term you've misappropriated, branch covidians, is traditionally used to refer to religious people spreading the disease - because in a pandemic it's totally worth cramming people into pews and seats at the risk of their health, thinking that faith will somehow protect them. Considering the number of parishioners that have died, it clearly hasn't.
Call it "living in fear" if you want, but I'm going to protect myself from people like you, thanks.
Re: Feature: Why Open A Video Game Shop During A Global Pandemic?
@outsider83 I know your type, you won't realize the severity of the pandemic until someone close to you passes because of it, and maybe not even then. If you want to risk death or disfigurement, you do you.
Re: Feature: Why Open A Video Game Shop During A Global Pandemic?
If this guy wants to put himself at risk during a pandemic, and his customers are inclined to do the same, they deserve each other.
Re: Double Dragon Neon Elbows Its Way Onto Switch This Month
Outstanding game, I greatly enjoyed it. I just hope this version has better netcode, I played this on PC with a friend online and the input delay was atrocious.
Re: New Pokémon Trading Card Set Will Feature More Than 100 Shiny Pokémon
Palette swaps and sparkles, I feel like I'm back in the 90s.
Re: Nintendo Cancels Splatoon 2 NA Open Livestream, "Free Melee" Believed To Have Played A Part
@BowtieShyGuy Actually, fans held their own Splatoon tournament finale, raised TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS as the cash prize, and created the most-viewed event in the history of Splatoon. Google Endgametv, the streamer for the event.
Now fans are hyped for the future of the Splatoon competitive scene after collaborating with Smash fans and showed that Nintendo's influence isn't needed for the community to thrive. Why the hell isn't NintendoLife covering THAT!?
Re: Mini Review: Picross S5 - You Know The Drill By Now, Surely?
People must buy these if they keep making them. I rather enjoy Picross, so I guess this'll go on the pile whenever I finish the puzzles I currently have.
Re: It Looks Like Kadabra Can Finally Return To The Pokémon Trading Card Game
What changed his mind, a sudden bout of bad publicity?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 28th)
Because I'm an obnoxious hipster iconoclast, I'm playing Fire Emblem Warriors because Age of Calamity didn't interest me. Getting it new, on sale, for 20 bucks kinda helped with that decision.
Re: Square Enix Announces SaGa Frontier Remastered, Launches On Switch In Summer 2021
@ALinkttPresent I suggest looking up Legends of Localization. There's a lot going on with RPGs - putting aside plot dialogue, you've got NPCs and menus and item descriptions and so on. Making sure all of that is translated and actually makes sense in the context of the specific screen it's on remains a huge undertaking to this day.
Re: Square Enix Announces SaGa Frontier Remastered, Launches On Switch In Summer 2021
@KimBread My apologies for being that guy and saying "Actually", but the series has had weird cyberpunk elements from the start, with the SaGa/Final Fantasy Legend trilogy on Game Boy.
Man, what I'd give for a remake of those games - nothing else lets you have a mutant, a dragon, and a robot in your party, or kill god with a chainsaw.
That said, this is a day one purchase for me.
Re: Feature: What's The Best Way To Play Super Mario Bros. In 2020?
Just emulate it.
Re: Famous Footballers Think EA Could Be Illegally Profiting From Their Names And Likenesses In FIFA
Everyone involved in this gets paid too much regardless, but that's sports for you.
Re: Nicalis Is Trying To Erase Free Versions Of Cave Story From The Internet
Well, I won't be buying from these jagoffs again.
Re: Huge Capcom Leak Suggests New Final Fight, Power Stone, Mega Man And Dragon's Dogma Games Are Coming
Of course, any value this list has is invalidated by the fact that we and by extension competitors get to see it. Capcom would be fools not to switch up their plans after this occurred.
Leakers are scum. If a game or an announcement or whatever is going to happen, it'll happen. Knowing ahead of time or having a release date move doesn't really change anything in the long run, does it? Ugh.
Re: Review: Control: Ultimate Edition - A Highly Convincing Proof-Of-Concept For Cloud Gaming On Switch
Many people like to live beyond the immediate moment. You'll be able to play Mario Kart in 10 years, any of them. This will be dead and gone by then. Even putting aside the inability to keep something for posterity with this design choice, being so cavalier about not owning the things like that you purchase, like some folks are, is how consumer rights are eroded. I can only speak for myself of course, but the possibility of having any digital good, of any kind, arbitrarily taken away from me because of forces beyond my control is kinda chilling in my eyes.
But then, I grew up in the days when you purchased a product, it was a physical product, and you were free to do as you pleased with it while it's in your possession. It's kinda sad that this can seem "old-fashioned" these days.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Comfort Food Game?
For me, it's old-school shooters of any kind. Getting in the zone and filling the screen with bullets, mine and the enemy's, will always relax me. Currently on my plate are Nova Drift and Ginga Force over on Steam, and I'm revisiting classics like U.N. Squadron and R-Type as well.
Re: The Latest Update For Borderlands 2 On Nintendo Switch Is Crashing The Game
Leave it up to a "AAA" developer to break a game that's already been out for years.
Re: Victory Heat Rally Developer Is Aiming For Switch Release
Looks solid, though the niche genre of "retro 80s racer" is getting kinda crowded these days, this will have to be spectacular to stand out from what's come before.
Re: Final Fantasy IX Is Getting A Physical Release On Nintendo Switch
Good stuff. I'm not much for Final Fantasy, but I always liked this game. I'll probably pick this up.
Re: Ninjala Season 3 Arrives, Adds New Arena, Weapons And Spectator Mode
@TimboSlice Cosmetics affect the gameplay, because players want to look cool while they're pulling off cool stunts. And games such as this are designed to entice players into spending, either with constant advertising of items for sale or using other players as walking billboards for the neat items available for real money. No developer on earth puts a cash shop into a game and expects players NOT to buy into it.
I could go on for a while. But then, anyone who unironically spouts "It’s all cosmetic!!!" is part of the problem. Carry on.
Re: Interview: "There Would Be No Control On Switch Without The Cloud," Says Remedy
I'm hoping this crashes and burns so that consumer-hostile practices like this avoid the Switch for a little longer. I'm well aware that such sleazy corporate antics are inevitable, but the less the better for the moment. Between Nintendo's legendary output and magnificient indie games (which sell very well), Switch isn't a system that needs third-party "AAA" games to survive.
Re: Aussie Gamers Are Locked Out Of Switch's Cloud-Based Future, It Seems
Yes, let's embrace a brand new way for companies to ensure that we don't actually own the products we buy, that's a good thing for consumers to do. All the "convenience" of cloud gaming buys you is an expiration date for your game, which will become unplayable when some outside entity decides to pull the plug.
Re: Mini Review: Vigil: The Longest Night - A Grim And Foreboding Metroidvania
Good game, buy it on PC, got it.
Re: Review: Hardcore Mecha - Thrillingly Overblown Anime-Style Robot Action
Thanks for the review! This is one of those games that I had considered but passed by, I'll definitely pick it up soon.
Re: Exclusive: Torchlight III Character Class Guide - Best Builds And Tips, Straight From The Devs
@N8tiveT3ch Then google it. It's not hard to find critiques of this game in whatever format you please.
Re: Torchlight III Confirmed For Launch On Nintendo Switch Next Week
@mikegwald You felt the need to respond not once, but four times in a row to defend this game, so it's hard to take you seriously. Turn the fanboying down just a notch. Besides, your opinions don't change the fact that this game is getting slammed in the reviews wherever you look.
Re: Exclusive: Torchlight III Character Class Guide - Best Builds And Tips, Straight From The Devs
Here's a good tip: Play a different game.
Re: Moon Studios Would "Love" To See Ori In Smash Bros. Ultimate, Tells Fans To Tweet Head Of Xbox About It
Ori's design is so bland... it's a white blob. It looks like a rejected Pokémon. What does this character have to offer over the protagonist from Hollow Knight (which Ori's sequel massively cribbed from) or Quote from Cave Story or other influential indie characters?
Re: Torchlight 3 "Coming Soon" To Nintendo Switch, But Won't Release Alongside Other Versions
Skip this one, folks. Fans have been complaining a-plenty elsewhere. Mandatory online connection to play even solo, less content than the previous game from close to a decade ago, and rumblings of microtransactions being added... I could go on, but short version, this is absolutely not worth your time.
Re: Koei Tecmo Brings Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires To Switch Early Next Year
Rexenoboy is correct. When diehard Dynasty Warriors fans are telling you something is crap, who can be pretty tolerant considering the franchise they love, there is a definite problem. Stay far, far away from this game. If it was a buggy mess on other hardware it's not going to be any better here.
Re: Ninjala's Cosmetic-Only Sonic Skins Cost An Eye-Watering £16 Each
@FX102A You're absolutely right. If cosmetics don't matter, why do people put so much effort into making their characters look cool? Oh right, because it enhances the game experience to look awesome while doing awesome stunts.
There's some free games that are honest and reasonable with their cash shops, but those are like unicorns in this market.
Re: Ninjala's Cosmetic-Only Sonic Skins Cost An Eye-Watering £16 Each
I can't imagine the game's doing too well if they're trotting out overpriced cross-promotions like this. I mean, On Smash the mii costumes make for fun references and they're cheap to the point of being trivial for most people. On this game, considering Sonic isn't the most successful brand out there, it reeks of desperation.
Re: Animal Crossing: New Horizons' Fall Update Is 'Around The Corner', Says Nintendo
Cool, another update, what content are they going to take from New Leaf and reimplement this time?
Re: Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase To Air Tomorrow
Oh boy, it's time for people to get angry at Nintendo for sharing commercials, but not the specific commercials they want! Getting so wound up over advertising, sheesh...