
Update [Wed 31st Jul, 2024 00:30 BST]:
Following his comments on social media, Lee Cocker has now told Eurogamer it was the International Olympic Committee that decided to end its partnership with Nintendo and Sega to explore new partner deals, NFTs and esports.
"They wanted to look at other partners and NFTs and esports. Basically the IOC wanted to bring [it] back to themselves internally and look at other partners so they would get more money."
Original story [Tue 30th Jul, 2024 01:45 BST]:
The Paris 2024 Olympics kicked off last week and if you're wondering where the latest Mario & Sonic game is, it seems the series might have come to an end.
Lee Cocker, an individual who worked on "all the games in the franchise", put out an announcement on social media last week, claiming the series wrapped up in 2020 with the Tokyo games. He goes on to share an image of himself with the Olympic committee president in 2009, where he presented a demonstration of the Olympic Winter Games release.
"For the people that are asking there will be no @MarioSonicGames for @Paris2024 the franchise finished with #MarioAndSonic at the @Tokyo2020 I know because I worked on all the games in the franchise."
According to Cocker's website, he spent 14 years managing the Mario & Sonic Olympic franchise - overseeing external publishing, development, asset licensing, and ensuring timely delivery of high-quality games within a budget. He credits Sega and Nintendo as being some of the many high-profile game companies he's worked with over the years.
Cocker also responded to some comments about Olympic video game licensing, mentioning how he doesn't think fans will see a "character based" title like Mario and Sonic again. Right now, it seems the only developer with access to the license is nWay, having released the free-to-play title Olympics GO! on mobile last month. This also happens to be the first Summer Olympics in 30 years with no console video game.
If we hear any other updates about the future of this series, we'll let you know. How would you feel about the end of this unique partnership between Mario and Sonic? Let us know in the comments.
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I had Rio and it wasn't too bad, just don't think I'll miss this series going forward.
Someone on here was asking why this hadn't been reported on yet, so I guess their comment was seen by staff.
No hard feelings, but it’s for the best. It’s long past time for a proper Mario and Sonic crossover.
I actually enjoyed the Wii version of London 2012, and I briefly played the 3DS version and Sochi 2014 on Wii U, but I lost interest and stopped playing the series after that. It just got to be too much of more of the same.
Oh no, whatever shall I do?? I suppose I'll just need to accept it on move on. Good talk, guys
Kinda cool games but definitely played out. I still hit the arcade cabinet when I see it. Though maybe if they had a new game people could talk about that instead of the current topic which is just exhausting from all sides and makes me hate the Olympics as a whole.
I got the first one back in like 08' so excited with the final count down commercial, but I didn't enjoy it really. I traded it in pretty soon after and never played another one. If there are any notable entries I'd be open to hearing about it but I'm not heartbroken.
Gotta make way for HotGoomba at the Olympic Games Paris 2024.
It’s a pretty good series, however to me it’s not that big of a deal, I still can play the originals if I want to!
I don’t think Tokyo 2020 sold that well anyways, so maybe there’s simply not enough interest for them to keep going?
It's fitting that they concluded the series with Tokyo 2020, Japan being the birthplace of both franchises. The series had a good run overall, decent first game, excellent Wii follow ups, the quality dipped on Wii U, but went back up for the final entry.
Honestly Rio 2016 WiiU was better than Tokyo 2020. Rio 2016 had tournaments, Heroes Showdown and other fun modes like the Rio Carnaval. The only scenario, Copacabana Beach, was a delight with Miis from different countries, always crowded and with new things to see a buy. Tokyo 2020 on Switch on the other hand tries to emulate the inferior 3DS version, with a lot of maps, but empty with no life whatsoever. Honestly I missed Heroes Showdown and Tournaments, because when you finish the story, there is much to do, only play the individual sports. Missed opportunity not having a Rugby or Soccer tournament. By the way, the change of câmera of Rugby Sevens also made It worse on Switch compared to that Wiiu game. And of course the series must have had a decline in popularity after its origins as a motion-controlled game in the Wii years, I bet the Switch version don't sell well. So yeah, the series don't go out with a bang, but makes sense to retire when the characters go back home to Japan. And I suspected the series wouldn't last forever after skipping the Winter games in 2018 and again in 2022 (all Olympics from 2008 to 2016 were covered, Winter or Summer). But If you want to play these games, either on Wii, WiiU, DS, 3DS or Switch, Winter or Summer games, grab a physical copy while you can, because there is a very low probability of these games being rereleased officially due to license and lack of interest in Olympic games gone by. The Switch game is still on the eshop, but I remember the WiiU and 3DS games were gone before the eshop closed.
As a fan of both Sonic and Mario, I never really got into this crossover. Just not my cup of tea.
More room for the dream to stay alive of a proper Mario and Sonic crossover game.
Well, can't say I'm not surprised. I figured sooner or later we wouldn't be getting anymore M&S games at some point. I will admit that it's kind of weird to be saying goodbye to one of the odder things to come out of video games in last decade.
But now the big question remains unanswered: Should one even be considered by their respective companies, what would a proper Mario/Sonic crossover play like?
Guess Nintendo doesn't like money. With the Olympic hype those are a sure seller. Hopefully they will work out a deal with the 2028 Olympics. Would love to see a Mario VS Sonic at the LA Games.
darn this is kinda sad
I prefer the Winter Olympics anyway. But it’s probably for the best, I wouldn’t want to be associated with the 2024 Paris either.
@ThatZeldaNerd Yeah it's like saying goodbye to a weird piece of gaming history.
Those games definitely overstayed their welcome, so it's cool that they are letting the franchise rest instead of releasing another crash game. Thou who knows, maybe the license was just too expensive.
What the heck? Did anyone here actually play these games, because this honestly SUCKS! Yeah, there was room for improvement, but I had a ton of genuine fun competing against friends and family. Booooooo!!!!
I don't think anybody is missing this series. It's been played out, there's not much more that can be done.
Having a new iteration every 4 years was pretty cool though. Didn't oversaturate itself by being a yearly release. Sort of a shame.
Farewell fallen soldier 🫡
Never got around to getting any of these games. Maybe I will now in honor of them and since the 2020 one is on sale on the eshop
Personally, I'm kind of sad to hear this, especially if the rumor ends up being true.
Now, I too admittedly wanted an "Action Platformer" out of this crossover series myself and I played better multiplayer-oriented series on both sides (Mario, especially), but I still enjoyed the Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games series for what they were and I really liked the numerous callbacks to both series' histories in them; I haven't played all of them, but I can say that both Mario & Sonic at the 2012 London Olympic Games (Wii) and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - Tokyo 2020 are among my highlights of this series.
Either way, hopefully the Mushroom Kingdom and Mobius (or where ever Sonic's crew lives in) can get together again in the future.
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im sad but i cant particularly say i cared for these games much...
@nukatha what happened!? im out of the loop, sorry
I'm not sad, its good that Sonic and Mario were able to have a official non-Smash crossover at all to begin with but going with the olympics was just plain dumb. People wanted to see the two icons have a epic adventure & platform gameplay, not doing sports and athletics.
Honestly while I'm not surprised, I do kinda wish we at least got 1 more title, at least for the winter olympics. I think that if they had a proper suite of both normal events and dream events, and possibly a story mode more like the DS Winter Games title. They had potential to end off on the most quality one yet if they got to do winter following the Tokyo title, since it was going in the right direction following the Wii U games, but considering they skipped out on both the 2018 & 2022 Winter Olympics, I figured they were finished a while ago
This year's Olympics have been great so far! History being made in many events.
I didn't really connect with the M&S games, probably because my favorite events either weren't represented or weren't represented well.
I dream of getting a good Handball game someday...
There's definitely a dearth of good sports games that aren't made on a budget or overflowing with micro transaction *****.
Last time these games were good, were 40 years ago on Commodore 64.
Winter Games, Summer Games and World Games.
This game genre died with Epyx.
No one else were ever able to make these kind of games like Epyx.
@Tasuki that would be on SEGA. They're the ones who were getting the licences, making the games and asking Nintendo if they could have Mario on them, and probably why Tokyo 2020 - The Official Video Game had a Sonic costume but not a Mario one.
I have all the games on the series except the arcades (obviously) and the 2 versions of Rio 2016 (nobody bought those so nobody sells them?), and the controls are definitely hit-and-miss on consoles, on handhelds they work a bit better, though. When they work, they make for an enjoyable experience. The Adventure Mode in Vancouver 2010 DS feels like a legit Mario & Sonic crossover.
The Dream Events alone make it a worthy sight, seeing Mario in Speed Highway or Crazy Gadget and Sonic in Mushroom Bridge is something I never imagined could happen.
The strength of this series is definitely the same as the Sonic series of the mid-to-late 2000s, on the graphics and music. For a period of time I thought Mario in Sochi 2014 was the best looking Mario in HD.
I was very sad when I realized this year didn’t have a new entry. I absolutely loved this series. One of my greatest gaming memories was getting to play that original ‘08 game on the DS. I couldn’t believe I got to play as Mario and Sonic, my two favorite gaming characters, together. What a mind blowing thing.
The series had some ups and downs over the years, but there were definitely some gems in there. I hope this isn’t the end for collabs between these two franchises.
If this is true, I’ll be so sad.
That's a shame.
Sad to see it gone, but like, only a little bit. Like a 3/10 on the sadness scale. Maybe a 4? Yeah, something like that.
Honestly, they were getting incredibly stale, so this is fine by me.
I really liked these. Them being a few years apart gave them time to work on them too, they could have stepped the quality up.
My guess is the Olympics wanted more money for the license. SEGA probably didn’t want to renew, so the publishing partnership between Nintendo and them on it came to an end. Highly unlikely Nintendo wanted to be a sole publisher and developer on the next one. It was fun while it lasted, but I think it’s time to move on.
Well, that means it opened to 3rd party developers to fill the gaps.
We already have Instant Sports games.
I enjoy Tokyo 2020 so not a bad note to go out in.
Well that's kinda sad. I had fun with the first 2 Wii entries even if they were far from perfect.
@NFrealinkling is it? i was expecting it , but didn't see it friday are you in NA? im in europe_
on the series... the winter ones were more fun than the summer ones, and the rio one indeed was most fun, i'll hit it up somewhere these olympics..
@RygelXVIII a cleaning the Seine mini game would be excellent though
I just find it bizarre as it was an almost guaranteed best seller. Hell, there isn't even a regular Olympics game apart from the F2P crap on mobiles. Even a port of the mobile app sans in-game transactions would have been better than nothing. With such a strong user base on Switch, it would have been very easy money, even if they lazily repainted the 2020 games. What were Sega thinking?
Now I Couldn't Care Less About The Olympics
@Hee-ho-master Basically the opening ceremony had a scene where LGBT performers have a party as if they were the Greek pagan gods as a nod to the original ancient Olympics however people are upset because they didn't realise they are Greeks gods and thought they were mocking Christians as well as they are angry that gay people shouldn't be apart of the ceremony.
I enjoyed this series. Was good to have a bash over a few weeks between the release of A titles.
Whether the event was a win or loss depended on the controls. Sometimes they would vary between lazy button mashing or illogical controls. Maybe something closer to guitar hero would have worked better (timing based) or random button press when prompted (reflex based).
Shame no Paris 2024 version. Seemed like a no brainer.
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I used to absolutely love the series. I think one of the Winter Olympics games got a 9 on here and quite rightly (I loved snowboarding with the Wii balance board). However, the series did run it's course. The last Wii U game was weak but they were all largely either an okay timepass or enjoyable for a short time. The Switch 2020 release was decent but more of the same. This was Thanos inevitable
Personally, overall loved the Mario & Sonic series despite its highs and lows just like some people here so it's sad to hear this even though I had the suspicion that would be the case even before this... fingers crossed we'll eventually see a different crossover between Mario and Sonic (apart from Sonic & co.'s inclusion in Smash) although I unfortunately doubt it or at least doubt we'll see it anytime soon!
ah indeed 60% off in america.. lucky for us europeans not that too access... 23 euros is a nice goodbye to the series
@liam maybe good to asdd that in the article
@HammerGalladeBro Yes finally some love for the DS adventure mode.. it was amazing ast the time... one of my fav ds games
It's for the best. Paris 2024 is the worst Olympic Games ever witnessed.
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@Tasuki it was a Sega developed and published title, not Nintendo
In all honesty, they were getting worse as time went on. Although the Tokyo 1964 twist playing events in 2D was very good in the last one. They already didn't do winter games, after the first couple, I'm not surprised to hear it's come to a complete end. It feels right that a Japan based one was the last one. And it had the strange quirk of being the only version of the Tokyo Olympics that was set in 2020...
Mostly I'll miss getting to see the Olympic venues virtually before seeing them in real life. Seeing beach volleyball in front of the Eiffel Tower and filled with Toads, Piantas and Flickies would've been cool though.
@NFrealinkling It was actually based on "The Feast of the Gods" a painting where the Greek gods are having a party.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jul/29/olympic-last-supper-scene-based-painting-greek-gods-art-experts
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I read "Finished" as meaning it was finished and ready for release. I did think that odd timing!
Was a fun series! I'm sure something equally cool will take on the mantle eventually.
Whichever was the first one was one of my favorite party games for the Wii. I liked the trampoline and the swimming.
I'll miss this series. It was fun while it lasted, though!
This had a decent run considering how much of it was banking off the crossover novelty factor and it not really being that pick up and play friendly, the first game was as infamous for this by having pages of instructions. How about a new Mario and Sonic sports game without the Olympic so they can make the events simple arcadey fun in environments from their series like the dream events.
Really enjoyed this Mario & Sonic Olympic outing especially the retro style events.
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Honestly kind of a shame because I feel like this entry could have finally been the one to fully bring back dream events considering sega seems to finally be somewhat listening to feedback and people were so vocal that they were the best part.
I don’t really get why they didn’t just take the London party formula they used for 2012 and try and improve that for 2016 and 2020. Rival showdown and story mode were fun but London party was always the best “main” offering both for multiplayer and general enjoyment
Aw man. The games were honestly pretty good (although I did only have the Vancouver, the ds Winter Olympics and then got Tokyo so I kinda only had half of them) and the dream events are neat little spins on the regular events. If this is true then R.I.P Mario and sonic at the Olympic Games.
@NFrealinkling I know that feeling, anyway good luck with the end times!
NFTS? B*tch, please.
I enjoyed these games but I don't feel the need for another one. I often go back to replay the other ones anyway.
@NFrealinkling I'm sorry but I'm a Christian and I was not offended at all by anything in the opening ceremony. I think you're overreacting tbh.
I wonder if they are looking to make an Olympics game with the likenesses of actual athletes. It'd probably be difficult since there no guarantee of who is going to actually compete.
@jump "good luck with the end times"
I laughed quite hard I must admit 😂😂
Just imagine rejecting one of the most universally recognised pop culture icons as your ambassador in order to pursue "other options". That's the sort of monumental stupidity and arrogance that deserves to send a business broke. 🤦🏻♂️
@eaglebob345 : I think you've answered your own inquiry there. I also suspect that Olympic athletes aren't as contractually tethered as, say, football players, where virtually every player's likeness is featured in officially licensed FIFA titles.
I recall seeing some pretty ardent nft defenders in these comments previously. Where are they now? Shouldn't they be overjoyed that Olympic nfts are on the table? Heh.
Anyway, the Olympics haven't been about anything except money for a long time so I'm not at all surprised by this.
i dont know how much money nfts are gonna make for them but if they wanna go that route then so be it ig
@Taguon dude you have no idea how refreshing it is to see a positive comment in this sea of negativity
@epicgamner Hey I'm always positive or at least I do my best.
Is anyone talking about the Olympics or the games anymore?
NFTs? Really? As soon as anyone goes in to those Ponzi schemes I am out
I don't understand how choosing NFTS over being associated with Sonic and Mario can lead to more money. I don't understand how anyone can make ANY money from NFTs! Do people really pay for them? Also, how is that sport related?
Never had much interest outside the initial game. Though I definitely own a few, still a bit sad to see its done.
Hopefully Sonic and Mario can continue on in some form without the Olympics stuff.
My votes for an RPG
@jump
Yeah that was good fun. Also some people got mad that they represented Marie Antoinette with her head cut off singing a traditional song that translates to "let's hang nobility". Apparently disrespecting insane blood thirsty divine right aristocrats is a bad thing now. Gives you an idea of the political tension in that country these days.
On the other side of the political spectrum, more reasonable people complain that some political figure are present and also about how the whole thing was organized, namely with disrespect to the locals and inhuman treatment of homeless people.
Anyway, the Mario and Sonic game would have never touched that controversy. They always had a way of making their own thing and not even go into the cultural side of things apart from a couple recognizable monuments being represented. This would have never been a problem. Pity that they do avoid this though, and that the game will not be a thing anyway, as I would have loved to see mario singing with his head cut off and Sonic disguised as a greek god!
Good luck to them with those NFTs! I bet they'll do really well.
Who on earth is still being conned by NFTs? I thought we all knew they were an immoral, ecologically disastrous, scam? I thought we'd all moved on to AI for all that bad stuff now?
Since track and field the industry is still trying to find a better formula for summer games. It's been so long and people lost hope. Hell I had even more fun with winter games back in the day. Mario & Sonic was a pretty bad use of license and franchise. But still better than nothing at all I guess.
Oh what a surprise, greed killed it. While I'm not interested in these games, I'll bet they were a lot more polished and well made than whatever soulless rubbish full of NFTs and micro-transactions the IOC will come up with.
Wow, so the actual reason is not only that the International Olympic Committee wanted to look at other partners which is fair if arguable, but also NFTs other than esports... good job IOC, you never fail to disappoint!
Will only buy if it has unlockable last supper scene...
Anyways, I love these video game icons obviously, especially in a mashup, but this formula has been done to death at this point, I feel like.
Does it come with a pale horse amiibo?
Oh man!
As I said before the series ending is fine by me, but losing it to NFTs just feels bad. What were they smoking?
Look for another partner? Fair enough, though I haven't seen how Ubisoft handled the 2018 Winter Olympics. That's a staring point. Maybe the IOC was displeased with what SEGA did in Tokyo 2020 - The Official Video Game (allowing for some crazy customization of Avatars).
NFTs? No F****** Thanks.
I didn’t realize NFTs were still a thing. I thought after the ones that celebs like Bieber pushed a couple years ago tanked the market dried up. I guess not…
I hope we still get some Sonic and Mario Crossovers in the Future. And hopefully it would be some what co-developed.
@SillyG That's fair. Maybe they want to go the realistic route, but in more of a "design your own Olympian" way.
This is my shocked face upon learning that arguably the most corrupt sports organization wants to get in on NFTs.
We got 6 different games for this sports minigame collection series already, time for an actual platformer crossover game with these characters.
Just gross. But this is the IOC we’re talking about, so at least it’s on brand.
I think my first ever video game was Summer Olympics for the Apple IIc.
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