I think any mobile device now needs to be targeted at a low price point. I could see the 3DS range continuing as a budget option - keeping dev costs low and as a system that you could afford to buy children. If not, then there is no point for having the Switch as your premium device.
Sad days for Game. I miss having somewhere fun to go for gaming.
Maybe Sports Direct can turn things around but they are not a particularly moral company and I would worry about staff at game. If you thought they pushed second hand games before, god knows how much pressure they'll be under now.
Man for people that dedicate so much time to games, you gotta ask why they spend so long hacking stuff and not playing. I know it is the challenge of it and being able to do it but in the end it is just pretty sad.
Sure this is coming from someone with a bad Nintendo experience and his phrasing is a little over the top. Doesn't necessarily make his points less valid. Nintendo has, historically in previous generations, had an issue with third party support and he states some possible reasons for this.
I don't think it is the full picture but I would also listen to the opinions of someone that has tried putting a game on Nintendo platforms more than the rest of us that haven't. We all love Nintendo but no organisation is perfect.
I hope they do better with the Switch, I think it has a good chance if mistakes are learned from.
It is an investment thing. It is generally in the interest of a developer to port their titles to as many platforms as possible to increase sales. The decision on whether to port is based on cost vs project sales. If the cost to port is high because hardware won't run it without modification, it makes it less attractive to create. If the Switch continues to do well then I think more publishers will see the value of having a copy of their product on the shelf.
The key selling power of the Switch is its hybrid nature. I think, in the shorter term, what Bethesda is doing with Skyrim is a good idea. Port genuine classic games to the Switch that it can run to get experience of the hardware and get some revenue. A lot of people I know are going to buy Skyrim so they can play it on the move.
It is easy to shout down every third party publisher that admits issues or hesitancy to port as 'well we don't need you anyway'. The Switch does need Third party support to provide a really satisfying catalogue of games. I just don't think it needs direct ports of the very latest PC/PS4/XB1 games at launch.
I am used to scarcity at launch, that is all part of the hype and build up. However, getting close to 4 months after launch (and potentially up to Christmas) and scarcity preventing users from getting their hands on one (and we are even talking Nintendo fans here) is possibly damaging for the console. From a publisher point of view, it makes viability shorted until the stock question is answered.
I have racked my brains about why nintendo are doing the Snes classic in almost the same manner as the Nes classic when that really was a bit of a disaster for fans and I think the reason is to drum up interest in the switch VC. I bet in 2018 a statement will go out saying how sorry they are people missed out on the classics but shucks you can get them all on switch now priced individually. It makes sense really.
This happened to a friend with PS4 when there was a price drop on the old model. They took cash and accepted it and then cancelled without warning. When she took it to twitter they said their website doesn't always do live stock taking when accepting online orders.
It comes down to price and selling method. Their prices are not great and their Pre-owned section, which should be a money maker, is over priced with competitors.
Not only that but the in-store selection is poor with very little focus on any one item. Half the stuff on shelf isn't actually in-stock.
From a web presence, their website is confusing and they are not great at delivery. I think a gaming store can survive on the high street but it needs to encourage gamers in with competetive pricing and events/service that matches that. It needs to have a parallel web experience as well.
@BinaryFragger Yep - I don't get the whole thing to be honest. I can accept the NES mini as a mistake but now they have done the same thing with SNES mini.
This product appeals to more than people who might buy a switch. For both the NES Classic and this, people had these consoles as kids or wanted them as kids. For £60-70, this is an affordable slice of nostalgia. You might not own a console but look at one of these and go, hey I had one as a kid, I'd love a chance to get on SFII.
It is Nintendo turning down money at this point. I never managed to get my hands on a NES Classic and now probably never will. I did manage to snag a SNES classic but I was lucky and I had to basically order it via my phone while in a business meeting.
Is it entitled? Sure. However, I've been buying Nintendo products since I was a child and I don't think I should have to metaphorically fight others to get a product! Is it the end of the world? No. However, as the article says, this isn't good business sense.
I'm enjoying BOTW and might get the DLC but to be honest, turning Link into a green version of that guy in the basement box in Pulp Fiction isn't on my list of priorities.
I am in shock. I was gutted as a youngling when it was cancelled. Played Starfox to death. I recently completed it again on my SNES. This is great, in a way. In another way, I am annoyed I have to spend £80 on a console I probably wont be able to get.
@Anti-Matter Respectfully disagree, for a start there are already more VR titles available now then ever released for Move.
It isn't going to sell hugely and I would agree that VR might not catch on but a lot of firms like Sony want it to succeed to open up new product lines.
I find it crazy that people are still derogatory about different platforms. I have a PS4 and Switch and between them, I get most of the games I want. There are great games on all platforms, it is only a case of whether you like them enough to play them over another platform. What matters to me is that there ARE differences in gaming experiences to justify having more than one. Sony has some great exclusives, Nintendo has some great exclusives.
From these comments it is clear that a lot of gamers have a diverse catalogue of systems and since PS4 is the biggest seller this generation, it makes sense that many do have a PS4 and Switch.
Console is great but I agree that this was released too early. I loved Zelda and Mario Kart because both show off the Switch's potential but when I finally finish up Zelda then I am not sure what else appeals to me for long term gaming. Which is a shame because packing Zelda with me on trips to the inlaws or when the other half is using the main TV has been so much fun.
This isn't doom and gloom, I just think the launch and post launch lineup hasn't been quite there for me. I know a lot of release consoles have the same problems but a lof of this lack is normally covered with cross gen releases.
Sigh, seriously all this article is saying is that Nintendo will charge what they want as long as people pay for it. Nintendo make a good margin on their hardware, it has always been their business model. We all know the dock does not cost anywhere near £80 to produce, in fact I doubt it costs £40 to produce. SImple as.
I want a Pro Controller but I don't want it enough to pay £60. I also want a dock but don't want it enough to pay £80. Therefore I'll wait. If more people do the same then the price will drop. If not, I'll be waiting a long time!
I'll echo that this is expensive for what it is but I also get that this is an optional accessory but, what I will also say is that Nintendo is missing a trick with the high pricing on this one.
Unlike additional or replacement controllers, this is a possible selling point. For a multi-tv household, having a dock in each room will increase the use and portability of the Switch. I currently have it set up in my bedroom but would like a docking station in my front room as well so I can really just drop it wherever I am. I'd take a punt at half the price but not at £80.
It is simply money. It will cost to port and support. Currently the Switch userbase isn't very large and, I would imagine, a lot of switch owners already have another console or gaming PC which might prove the first choice for running a game like this.
If Destiny 2 came out late 2018 and the switch userbase is edging towards 20 million, well then that is different.
I want a pro-controller but right now, just don't have the cash to drop £60 on a controller when I want to buy so much content! Maybe a christmas pressie...
Interesting sales, meeting demand and all that. I think the strong sales for MK8 suggest that a) Existing Switch owners want content and b) MK8 is also a strong draw for people looking for a Switch.
I'm hoping for a big stock drop AND announcement at E3 to set off a fresh burst.
I love my Vita and would like a portable Sony machine again but I very much doubt they will do it. The Switch still has to persude the world it needs to exist.
Secondly, what would it play? PS4 games? Well no, it won't because it won't support discs, and why would you sell something that might affect the sales of your other products? So it means a new eco-system which means paying for first party and second party games.
I've been put off competitive MP ever since my wife came home to find me shouting and swearing at some kids in another country who were following me around and killing me repeatedly (while calling me some quite appalling names) in Halo 3.
It has taken me many years to win back her respect.
I went from Horizon into Zelda and, I think they are both interesting, but very different examples of the open world genre.
Horizon was, to me, a game that successfully blended an open world with a strong narrative and diverse combat. Stories tend to be hard to get right in open world games but this one nailed it.
Zelda, which I am still halfway through, was a larger, slower and far more explorative open world, where the joy was self discovery.
Both games are immensly fun, both are beautiful to look at in their own way and both do take their style to the logical conclusion. There are also ups and downs to both. I dont find combat in Zelda very enjoyable but I also found the limitations of the open world in Horizon a bit too restrictive. Zelda sacrifices story for freedom, Horizon sacrifices freedom for story. Both have many open world tropes (towers, fetch tasks, side quests, crafting, hunting) but they do them in different ways.
I think it is far to say they are both masterpieces in what they tried to achieve and there is room for both to say that. So far, both my top games for this year.
Man what I wouldn't give to be 20 years younger and know what I know now... and be a woman.
Anyway, lovely story, it is great to emphasis how positive gaming can be as a hobby as opposed to just the negative side that posted all the time. I was never really into Pokemon but I had lots of friends that were equally as passionate.
I'd understand it if Nintendo were supporting it but since they are not, let people have fun with the product they PAID for.
The only thing I can think of is that Nintendo are doing a Switch port and want to bring over the Wii U levels and don't want exploits on their new flagship console. If not though, this is just petty.
I want it for the Holiday update and I like a couple of features. At the same time, I probably won't buy until I get more details on the holiday update. I hate playing the season pass gambling game.
In terms of the content so far, this all looks fine and, still being part way through the game, I'd like some of the features. I have a feeling the story content will be good too. However, I don't agree with paying for DLC blindly when I don't know the quality. It is just a principle I have.
This clearly isn't the case. It was never advertised as limited edition or limited run or just a holiday product. I think it used up spare parts and was a marketing tool. Simple as.
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Re: Scammers Are Taking Advantage Of Switch Mania In Japan By Ripping Off Desperate Fans
Where there is demand and no supply, scammers and scalpers will flourish. Nice story though.
Re: Feature: Re-acquainting Ourselves With an Old Ally in Metroid: Samus Returns
I've pretty much got a 3DS just to play this game.
Re: New 2DS XL Tops Japanese Hardware Chart As Switch Sales Plunge Amid Stock Shortages
Man, these stock shortages are such a shame because the install base would be massive. I am tempted by the new 2ds, I like the blue one.
Re: Analysts Expect Nintendo Switch Hybrid to End 'Two-Punch Strategy'
I think any mobile device now needs to be targeted at a low price point. I could see the 3DS range continuing as a budget option - keeping dev costs low and as a system that you could afford to buy children. If not, then there is no point for having the Switch as your premium device.
Re: Ubisoft Will Announce More Nintendo Switch Titles "Quite Soon"
I think the Assassin's Creed Ezio trilogy is a good bet since they remastered last year and I think could run on the Switch. That would be ace...
Re: Hyper Light Drifter Might Have a Shot at Coming to Switch
I have for PS4 and would buy again in an instant if released for Switch. Amazingly good indie title.
Re: Splatoon 2 Has A Nasty Surprise In Store For Rage Quitters
Preeettty Preeettty goood.
Re: Sports Direct Buys 25.75 Percent Stake In Embattled UK Retail Chain GAME
Sad days for Game. I miss having somewhere fun to go for gaming.
Maybe Sports Direct can turn things around but they are not a particularly moral company and I would worry about staff at game. If you thought they pushed second hand games before, god knows how much pressure they'll be under now.
Re: Nintendo Switch Hackers Claim to Have Made Key First Step
Man for people that dedicate so much time to games, you gotta ask why they spend so long hacking stuff and not playing. I know it is the challenge of it and being able to do it but in the end it is just pretty sad.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Switch Comes With A Built-In NES Emulator
Is this because they want to flog us the games again?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Re: Oddworld Creator Lorne Lanning "Has No Faith" In Switch
Sure this is coming from someone with a bad Nintendo experience and his phrasing is a little over the top. Doesn't necessarily make his points less valid. Nintendo has, historically in previous generations, had an issue with third party support and he states some possible reasons for this.
I don't think it is the full picture but I would also listen to the opinions of someone that has tried putting a game on Nintendo platforms more than the rest of us that haven't. We all love Nintendo but no organisation is perfect.
I hope they do better with the Switch, I think it has a good chance if mistakes are learned from.
Re: It's "A Bit Sad" That Switch Isn't More Powerful, Says THQ Nordic
@HSuzumiyaVI Partly, sure. Are you saying that it isn't a good idea to port highly popular games to the Switch ?
Re: It's "A Bit Sad" That Switch Isn't More Powerful, Says THQ Nordic
It is an investment thing. It is generally in the interest of a developer to port their titles to as many platforms as possible to increase sales. The decision on whether to port is based on cost vs project sales. If the cost to port is high because hardware won't run it without modification, it makes it less attractive to create. If the Switch continues to do well then I think more publishers will see the value of having a copy of their product on the shelf.
The key selling power of the Switch is its hybrid nature. I think, in the shorter term, what Bethesda is doing with Skyrim is a good idea. Port genuine classic games to the Switch that it can run to get experience of the hardware and get some revenue. A lot of people I know are going to buy Skyrim so they can play it on the move.
It is easy to shout down every third party publisher that admits issues or hesitancy to port as 'well we don't need you anyway'. The Switch does need Third party support to provide a really satisfying catalogue of games. I just don't think it needs direct ports of the very latest PC/PS4/XB1 games at launch.
Re: Review: Bulb Boy (Switch eShop)
Where is that Europe release? I think this will probably be my next purchase for Switch.
Re: Hardware Review: SFANS Adapter For Switch: The World's First Truly Portable Dock
This is going on my chrimbo pressie list. I don't 'need' one but having one would be great for work trips.
Re: Random: Zelda: Breath Of The Wild's New DLC Contains A Weird Hidden Area
What do you need Link?
Swords. Lots of swords (swish as rack of swords slide in).
Re: Nintendo UK Reiterates That Switch Demand Has "Surpassed" Global Estimates
I am used to scarcity at launch, that is all part of the hype and build up. However, getting close to 4 months after launch (and potentially up to Christmas) and scarcity preventing users from getting their hands on one (and we are even talking Nintendo fans here) is possibly damaging for the console. From a publisher point of view, it makes viability shorted until the stock question is answered.
Re: You Still Can't Pre-Order The Super NES Classic In The US, And This Could Be Why
Let the scalping begin...
Re: Feature: The NES and SNES Mini Could Live On Through Nintendo Switch
I have racked my brains about why nintendo are doing the Snes classic in almost the same manner as the Nes classic when that really was a bit of a disaster for fans and I think the reason is to drum up interest in the switch VC. I bet in 2018 a statement will go out saying how sorry they are people missed out on the classics but shucks you can get them all on switch now priced individually. It makes sense really.
Re: It Seems Argos Is Cancelling Some SNES Classic Mini Pre-Orders In The UK
This happened to a friend with PS4 when there was a price drop on the old model. They took cash and accepted it and then cancelled without warning. When she took it to twitter they said their website doesn't always do live stock taking when accepting online orders.
Re: Beleaguered UK Retailer GAME Blames Lack Of Switch Stock For Profit Warning
@ThatNyteDaez That explains, well, everything about how much trouble they are in...
Re: Beleaguered UK Retailer GAME Blames Lack Of Switch Stock For Profit Warning
It comes down to price and selling method. Their prices are not great and their Pre-owned section, which should be a money maker, is over priced with competitors.
Not only that but the in-store selection is poor with very little focus on any one item. Half the stuff on shelf isn't actually in-stock.
From a web presence, their website is confusing and they are not great at delivery. I think a gaming store can survive on the high street but it needs to encourage gamers in with competetive pricing and events/service that matches that. It needs to have a parallel web experience as well.
Re: Editorial: The Frustrating Quest for a SNES Mini is Bad Business for Nintendo
@BinaryFragger Yep - I don't get the whole thing to be honest. I can accept the NES mini as a mistake but now they have done the same thing with SNES mini.
Re: Editorial: The Frustrating Quest for a SNES Mini is Bad Business for Nintendo
The handling of all of this is absurd.
This product appeals to more than people who might buy a switch. For both the NES Classic and this, people had these consoles as kids or wanted them as kids. For £60-70, this is an affordable slice of nostalgia. You might not own a console but look at one of these and go, hey I had one as a kid, I'd love a chance to get on SFII.
It is Nintendo turning down money at this point. I never managed to get my hands on a NES Classic and now probably never will. I did manage to snag a SNES classic but I was lucky and I had to basically order it via my phone while in a business meeting.
Is it entitled? Sure. However, I've been buying Nintendo products since I was a child and I don't think I should have to metaphorically fight others to get a product! Is it the end of the world? No. However, as the article says, this isn't good business sense.
Re: Tingle Shocked Zelda: Breath of the Wild Designer Right Down To Her Bones
I'm enjoying BOTW and might get the DLC but to be honest, turning Link into a green version of that guy in the basement box in Pulp Fiction isn't on my list of priorities.
Re: Be Quick And Snag A SNES Classic, Nintendo Official UK Store's Pre-Order Is Live
Boom, email received, ordered it. Was in a meeting as well so had to be super sneaky.
Re: Star Fox 2 Dev Is As Shocked As You About The Game Coming To SNES Classic Edition
I am in shock. I was gutted as a youngling when it was cancelled. Played Starfox to death. I recently completed it again on my SNES. This is great, in a way. In another way, I am annoyed I have to spend £80 on a console I probably wont be able to get.
Re: Doug Bowser Says Nintendo Has Learned A Lot From Demand For NES Mini
@Anti-Matter Respectfully disagree, for a start there are already more VR titles available now then ever released for Move.
It isn't going to sell hugely and I would agree that VR might not catch on but a lot of firms like Sony want it to succeed to open up new product lines.
Re: Switch Owners Won't Be Able To Play Minecraft Or Rocket League Against PS4 Owners, And Here's Why
I wanted to be able to play myself on my PS4 so that I could finally win at Rocket League. I suck.
Re: Random: Miyamoto Was Once Quite Interested In PSP Game Boy Emulation
@ToneDeath Ha ha that is what I thought when I read it.
Re: Sony Thinks You'll Buy A PlayStation 4 Alongside Your Nintendo Switch
I find it crazy that people are still derogatory about different platforms. I have a PS4 and Switch and between them, I get most of the games I want. There are great games on all platforms, it is only a case of whether you like them enough to play them over another platform. What matters to me is that there ARE differences in gaming experiences to justify having more than one. Sony has some great exclusives, Nintendo has some great exclusives.
From these comments it is clear that a lot of gamers have a diverse catalogue of systems and since PS4 is the biggest seller this generation, it makes sense that many do have a PS4 and Switch.
Re: Feature: The Switch Report - Three Months of Nintendo's New System
Console is great but I agree that this was released too early. I loved Zelda and Mario Kart because both show off the Switch's potential but when I finally finish up Zelda then I am not sure what else appeals to me for long term gaming. Which is a shame because packing Zelda with me on trips to the inlaws or when the other half is using the main TV has been so much fun.
This isn't doom and gloom, I just think the launch and post launch lineup hasn't been quite there for me. I know a lot of release consoles have the same problems but a lof of this lack is normally covered with cross gen releases.
Re: The NCSOFT CEO Kindly Bought All His Employees a Nintendo Switch
I got a switch from my work instead of a bonus. I was chuffed, the wife less so! Cool idea though.
Re: Editorial: An Empty Box is $5 and a Dock is $89 - Welcome to Switchonomics
Sigh, seriously all this article is saying is that Nintendo will charge what they want as long as people pay for it. Nintendo make a good margin on their hardware, it has always been their business model. We all know the dock does not cost anywhere near £80 to produce, in fact I doubt it costs £40 to produce. SImple as.
I want a Pro Controller but I don't want it enough to pay £60. I also want a dock but don't want it enough to pay £80. Therefore I'll wait. If more people do the same then the price will drop. If not, I'll be waiting a long time!
Re: Nintendo Switch Standalone Dock Goes Up for Pre-Order on Amazon UK
I'll echo that this is expensive for what it is but I also get that this is an optional accessory but, what I will also say is that Nintendo is missing a trick with the high pricing on this one.
Unlike additional or replacement controllers, this is a possible selling point. For a multi-tv household, having a dock in each room will increase the use and portability of the Switch. I currently have it set up in my bedroom but would like a docking station in my front room as well so I can really just drop it wherever I am. I'd take a punt at half the price but not at £80.
Re: "No Plans" For Destiny 2 On Switch, Says Project Lead Who Loves Nintendo's Console
It is simply money. It will cost to port and support. Currently the Switch userbase isn't very large and, I would imagine, a lot of switch owners already have another console or gaming PC which might prove the first choice for running a game like this.
If Destiny 2 came out late 2018 and the switch userbase is edging towards 20 million, well then that is different.
Re: New Splatoon 2 Switch Accessories And Hardware Bundle Announced
I want a pro-controller but right now, just don't have the cash to drop £60 on a controller when I want to buy so much content! Maybe a christmas pressie...
Re: Nintendo Switch and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Lead the Way in US April Sales
Interesting sales, meeting demand and all that. I think the strong sales for MK8 suggest that a) Existing Switch owners want content and b) MK8 is also a strong draw for people looking for a Switch.
I'm hoping for a big stock drop AND announcement at E3 to set off a fresh burst.
Re: Random: German Tech Blog Imagines What The PlayStation Switch Would Look Like
I love my Vita and would like a portable Sony machine again but I very much doubt they will do it. The Switch still has to persude the world it needs to exist.
Secondly, what would it play? PS4 games? Well no, it won't because it won't support discs, and why would you sell something that might affect the sales of your other products? So it means a new eco-system which means paying for first party and second party games.
Re: Ubisoft Confirms It Has An Unannounced Nintendo Switch Game in Development
Assassins Creed Chronicles Port. Guaranteed.
Re: Poll: Nintendo is Keen on 'Social Competitive Gaming' on Switch - Are You Game?
I've been put off competitive MP ever since my wife came home to find me shouting and swearing at some kids in another country who were following me around and killing me repeatedly (while calling me some quite appalling names) in Halo 3.
It has taken me many years to win back her respect.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Compares Zelda: Breath Of The Wild And Horizon Zero Dawn
I went from Horizon into Zelda and, I think they are both interesting, but very different examples of the open world genre.
Horizon was, to me, a game that successfully blended an open world with a strong narrative and diverse combat. Stories tend to be hard to get right in open world games but this one nailed it.
Zelda, which I am still halfway through, was a larger, slower and far more explorative open world, where the joy was self discovery.
Both games are immensly fun, both are beautiful to look at in their own way and both do take their style to the logical conclusion. There are also ups and downs to both. I dont find combat in Zelda very enjoyable but I also found the limitations of the open world in Horizon a bit too restrictive. Zelda sacrifices story for freedom, Horizon sacrifices freedom for story. Both have many open world tropes (towers, fetch tasks, side quests, crafting, hunting) but they do them in different ways.
I think it is far to say they are both masterpieces in what they tried to achieve and there is room for both to say that. So far, both my top games for this year.
Re: Feature: An Extraordinary Pokémon Trading Card Collection and a Life-Changing Sale
Man what I wouldn't give to be 20 years younger and know what I know now... and be a woman.
Anyway, lovely story, it is great to emphasis how positive gaming can be as a hobby as opposed to just the negative side that posted all the time. I was never really into Pokemon but I had lots of friends that were equally as passionate.
Re: Video: Nintendo Switch Controllers All Have a Power Button Hiding in Plain Sight
@DEZn00ts That happens to me fairly regularly which is how I found this butto after having a panic attack.
Re: Thumper Bringing Rhythm and Violence To Switch eShop On 18th May
Was a great PSVR near launch title.
Re: Meet The Mario Maker Player Nintendo Wants To Ban For Keeping The Game Alive
I'd understand it if Nintendo were supporting it but since they are not, let people have fun with the product they PAID for.
The only thing I can think of is that Nintendo are doing a Switch port and want to bring over the Wii U levels and don't want exploits on their new flagship console. If not though, this is just petty.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Zelda: Breath of the Wild - The Master Trials DLC?
I want it for the Holiday update and I like a couple of features. At the same time, I probably won't buy until I get more details on the holiday update. I hate playing the season pass gambling game.
Re: Nintendo Reveals "The Master Trials", the First DLC Pack for The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
In terms of the content so far, this all looks fine and, still being part way through the game, I'd like some of the features. I have a feeling the story content will be good too. However, I don't agree with paying for DLC blindly when I don't know the quality. It is just a principle I have.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Discusses NES Mini Demand and Apologises to Those That Missed Out
This clearly isn't the case. It was never advertised as limited edition or limited run or just a holiday product. I think it used up spare parts and was a marketing tool. Simple as.
Re: Capcom Wants You To Know That It's Taking The Nintendo Switch Very Seriously
Clearly a remaster of the 'The Goof Troop' from Snes to Switch. The sequel everyone wanted.