The Switch has been out for a while now and hackers have had sufficient time to delve into its firmware and pick things apart. One of the more interesting discoveries that has been made during this exploratory work is the fact that the console apparently comes pre-loaded with its own NES emulator, named "flog".
There's very little information available outside of the emulator's name, but we do know that Nintendo is planning on bringing NES games to the console in the fullness of time - the company has already confirmed that titles like Super Mario Bros. 3 and Dr. Mario are Switch-bound.
With flog installed, these titles should work without any major changes to the Switch's firmware - perhaps the company will roll out other emulators to cover other formats when its online service opens next year.
[source nintendoeverything.com]
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Wonder if it's the same emulator used in the NES mini? That was top notch.
@Mart1ndo yes.
So long as a good selection of the games are free and unlimited with the paid online services. It will be pretty disappointing if they expect people to pay for all the individual games again.
Nintendo need to stop looking so greedy and tight all the time.
Once again, thus is why I never got into the NES hype.
@Mart1ndo Yes, but I don't believe they are as valuable to consumers as Nintendo might believe them to be. I think they might misinterpret the success of the NES mini as demand for the games, rather than demand for an overall product.
@Mart1ndo yes
@Mart1ndo
Yes.
But when I was kid, back to 90's era.
8 bit is so hot right now.
I wonder if they're going for a record on how many times they an get people to buy their NES games. Seriously they need to either move on from NES or make their library available for a subscription.
Although the NES was my first console, I finf the games difficult to go back to these days. The gameplay, graphics and sound are just below my threshold of what I enjoy experiencing. There are a few exceptions but really 16 BIT tends to be the lowest I can go now.
@Mart1ndo The original Donkey Kong still stands up. Great gameplay.
Hopefully flog is not an laggy as the Wii U emulator. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! was virtually unplayable. Big N has to get some 8-bit masterpieces like Journey to Silius and Recca on there--enough with Balloon Fight already!
@bluedogrulez Huh? I beat that game on WiiU VC without a problem, using all the old techniques as with the original NES release.
Anyway, I expect there to be an NES emulator in the Switch when they've been saying that the online service will have altered NES games.
@Mart1ndo I know what you mean.
@Mart1ndo
Not since yesterday. But I'll probably start again tomorrow. 😊
Multiplayer Duck Hunt would be amazing.
Is this because they want to flog us the games again?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
interesting. so NES downloads will be super small then as we're only going to download the ROMs and not the emulator each time? nice!
A bit odd that it would be in the firmware. In the OS, sure, but in the firmware? Maybe a terminology issue?
Only needing the roms will certainly make games download faster.
@BraveFencerZan : Glad to hear it. What I experienced was lag that made Soda Popinski nearly impossible to beat (and I've whipped him on the NES when I was a kid). I've hear others experience lag that made Tyson even more difficult to beat.
@bstoppel In closed systems like consoles firmware and OS often refer to the same thing or to put it another way, the OS is a part of the firmware.
Please give credit to SourceGaming, the site that pointed it out (you even put in the article a tweet from them!).
@The_Mysteron I agree! was just playing that on my everdrive last night and it's still a cracking game.
Rumor: The Switch is just a souped up NES! Nah, I am just trolling.
Hopefully it'll be better than that atrocious emulator that Sega use for Sega Forever.
@FX102A I'm pretty much the same when it comes to the NES. Some titles can be quite primitive, since the Famicom dates back to '83. And games during that period could be quite punishing, while game design was still being worked out. In later years, some games strike me as having a more 16-bit design, with impressive graphics for the system. When it comes to the NES, I'm more selective about what I play. I prefer action platformers on the system such as the Contra games, Castlevania, Batman, Shatterhand, etc.
@Mart1ndo Can't tell if you're serious or not. Still arguably the greatest console of all time. They don't make games like they used to.
Let's hope that they release an NES Classic bundle for the Switch Virtual console.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE No, you don't because he was joking.
@HappyMaskedGuy
I havnt bought any Nes games, should I still get them free because you did?
@oHOWEo What do you mean? If you read my post, I said free with the upcoming paid online service.
I wish Nintendo would re-release the NES console with some of the best games in their original physical release with box, manual and map.
Me & my wife play the mini NES all the time. If you grew up in that era, you will never leave those games behind. By far my favorite console.
@Danpal65 it actually wasn’t a good emulator. If you injected other ROMs into it the sound was usually very tinny. It was made with those 30 games in mind and that’s all. A proper emulator would have a higher compatibility rate.
Flog backwards is Golf...
NES' Mario Golf for Switch confirmed!!! Yay!!
@Priceless_Spork I just know what I like, but I'm happy to try lots of things. Action platformers are just what I find most enjoyable on the system.
I'm actually familiar with Gun Nac and Baseball Stars and like them both. Gun Nac is well made with a fun premise and style. Baseball Stars I had growing up. I still consider it one of the best baseball video games ever and my favorite sports game on the NES. I'll look into the other two you mentioned.
@Priceless_Spork I know it's easy for such misunderstandings to happen in text. No need to worry as I took your comment the way you intended it. In fact, I meant to thank you for listing a few games just to make that clear, then forgot to include it before I posted.
I never got that deep with Baseball Stars. With sports games, I just liked to just jump in quick for a game or two, but I knew several people who liked to do seasons and stats. The nice thing about Baseball Stars was it could appeal to both types. Even as a straightforward baseball game, it was packed with little details and did the basic things better than others.
To expand on my original point, with so many games available now on many platforms, and with time being limited, I find it's good to be selective. Some genres just push the right buttons with me. With action platformers, not only do I tend to enjoy that gameplay most on the NES, but I also find that many of those have the most appealing(to me) music on the system too, such as with Shatterhand and Batman.
That's very cool that you have Gun Nac. I wouldn't mind having that cart, but I wasn't aware of it until after it blew up.
@Mart1ndo Mega Man 1-6 all day.
@retro_player_22 Which is the same piece of crap they used in their Steam Genesis Collection, based off an old but licensed-Sega emulator called Jenesis. Wrapped in Unity with a ROM image, and voila! You get a steaming pile of crap!
@bluedogrulez - I was pretty good at Punch Out as a kid, I could pull off perfect runs for my friends pretty much at will for quite a while. I hadn't played it for years before I picked it up on the Wii (and later WiiU) VC, and I haven't been able to get past Popinski since then on those machines. If I put a cart in my NES, I'm fighting Tyson within 25 minutes. I can't say I can see/feel the lag when I play on Wii/U, but I believe it's there and most obvious in a fast twitch, muscle memory game like Punch Out.
@HappyMaskedGuy I have to agree with you on this. I have several of the old games on other consoles. As a person that had an NES when I was in Jr High school I wish I would have kept all my old consoles etc. To me at this point most of the games are a novelty, as someone that keeps everything game related now, I find the NES mini a very desirable piece of hardware.
@th3r3ds0x I like it, but the NES mini is more of a novelty item, the console equivalent of a fashion accessory. Nothing wrong with that, but it could encourage Nintendo to mistakenly over value NES games. I want a SNES mini, but I think Nintendo will cut off that supply too, just to bait the Switch market into buying the SNES games singularly.
Their only game is going to be a Famicom RPG called Metal Max, which features a minigame called FLOG RACE. (probably one of the most hilarious English spelling mistakes I've seen in a Japanese game)
Flog is a British slang term for selling something. If Nintendo want to monetise their NES content a codename like this makes sense.
No sale for me! I've got NES games coming out of my ears.
I know there will be a SNES mini but I'd love to play S.M World on the Switch....
@bimmy-lee : hooray, it's not just me, lol. Thanks for chiming in!
@manu0 Yeah, with the size of those games, just the ROM will be more like hitting the play button in Spotify or Netflix. Download and install are pretty redundant.
@Ogre Looks like you win the big "You were right!" award! XD
@LN3000 no joke!! I was only kidding, but it's cool to know I'm also a fortune teller. Lol!
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