@Austrian There's an Ukrainian girl who likes to pack Switch games and emulator into a standalone app - all you have to do is run it. She has been dumping her releases in the torrent for about a year.
People had been playing high res 60 fps Switch games on PC for the last 2 years. I still play on my Switch, but only in portable mode - which to me is the ONLY selling point of Switch. I think Nintendo knew this too, that's why the latest Switch is made for portable players.
The first gen Switch uses a 20nm chip, the revision (red box) uses the Mariko chip which is a 16nm chip. The OLED Switch uses the same Mariko chip.
Typically, most company increases the clockspeed of their chip if they are manufactured with a lower nm process - this made the chip runs faster. Nintendo chose to have parity with the first gen, so by keeping the same clockspeed the new revision model runs cooler and therefore gained extra battery life.
It's up to Nintendo, they can easily change the clockspeed, allowing the Mariko chip to run faster at the expense of battery life. Maybe they will unlocked the clockspeed in future firmware? This will encourage OG Switch owner to upgrade.
Nintendo is protecting their own ass. They don't want to get sued by the parents when the broken glass cuts their kids. Known internally in Nintendo office as the ass-protector.
None of the reviewers use the Youtube app to compare besides games, why? The Youtube videos look so much better on an OLED screen, also with that kickstand - it turns the Switch into a fully functional desktop mini OLED TV.
Switch has the best version because Tetris is better as a portable game, but the most incredible experience is in the VR version.
Rez, Lumines and Tetris Effect are all connected, but music is not an essential part of the gameplay with Tetris Effect - it's just using your gameplay as a midi input.
Ask yourself: Do you play your Switch in bed with all the lights turned off? If yes, then OLED Switch is a worthy upgrade - that's when you see the real difference.
If Nintendo upgraded the SoC and use the same LCD screen, people will say the games look the same in portable mode, only docked players should buy it for the upscaled 4K.
I am surprise DF said the OLED improved the screen latency, they claimed there's less ghosting than the LCD - this makes the screen looks like 120hz ones.
Chip shortages? Doesn't matter, Switch can use the same chip for 10 years - Nintendo already set a road map for cloud gaming. Low resolution gaming stream can be upscaled to 4K - that's what Nintendo is betting on.
I think it will be similar to the Playstation TV but fully digital and no gamecard slot. It can be sold at a very cheap price without the screen and joycons. People who only wants to play on TV will love something like this.
The Switch Pro is not a portable unit. It's a small home console that connects to the TV - where 4K makes sense. You don't need 4K on a portable unit, that's why it's not in the OLED model.
For existing Switch owners who bought the Switch Pro, they can use their current Switch as a wireless controller - this gives them the same Wiii U tablet experience. Nintendo will update old games to support this 'Wii U' feature - like displaying map on the controller screen in BotW.
There are leaks that Apple is making a handheld like Switch that uses their own designed ARM chip. The upcoming M1X chip is as fast as PS4 Pro running on battery, the proposed M2 chip for this handheld is said to be slightly slower than PS5 but has ray-tracing and all the bells and whistles.
Apple was already making deals with all the big game companies, only Ubisoft has leaked the news that they are making exclusive games for this console. Apple has Apple Arcade, a Netflix-like subscription for games - monthly fee is only US$5. Apple will sell the hardware at a high price but it's all you can play at $5/mth.
@Rainz No, Nintendo knew that people are reluctant to jump on the cloud gaming because of performance - the bandwidth affects the latency and overall responsiveness of the games. By using AI upscaling, the game only needs to stream in low resolution. This makes the game feel snappy like it's running natively on your Switch.
Try watching Youtube in 4K and 480p resolution with your phone and you can feel the difference in speed. Imagine streaming in 480p and upscaled to 4K quality. This makes cloud gaming feasible for many people with low bandwidth internet.
@Rainz Actually cloud gaming is the only way to combat piracy. No one can owns the game anymore, it runs from the server. Cloud gaming is already common place, sooner or later Nintendo will go down this path.
Unlike others, Nintendo knows the deficiency of cloud gaming is due to the bandwidth required. Their solution is to stream low resolution video and upscaled it to high resolution. It doesn't need to be 4K, read Nintendo's patent:
"the techniques herein may be applied to other image sizes (e.g., 720p to 1080p; 480p to 1080p, 1080p to 1440p, 1080p to 4k/3840Ă—2160, 720p to 4k, etc."
No gaming plans, but I think I just stumbled upon Nintendo's gaming plan.
Nintendo’s New Strategy is Cloud Gaming.
Nintendo knows how to adapt, that’s how this company survived for over 100 years. They came to the conclusion that chip shortages meant hardware shortages, so the solution is to play next-gen games on existing hardware: it’s possible through cloud gaming.
Existing cloud gaming is limited by bandwidth, but with the help of AI upscaling this problem is solved - as only low resolution stream is needed, the machine learning upscaling will turned it into 4K.
This is reason the OLED Switch has a dock that contains an ARM chip that can be updated through firmware, and also the inclusion of a LAN port. In the near future, Nintendo games can be stream from the clouds through the ethernet and upscaled to 4K. The Nvidia Tegra chip in the Switch will become a dedicated upscaler - performing the upscaling function.
For those who aren’t aware, Nvidia Shield already had this AI upscaler since 2019. It uses the same ‘Mariko’ Tegra X1 chip as the Switch revision from 2019 (red box).
This is why Nintendo gave 4K dev kits to developers, the games were not meant to run on the Switch but in the cloud servers!
The real OLED Switch launch title is Tetris Effect not Metroid. People will be talking in the next few weeks about how good the OLED screen looks with Tetris Effect. It's the best game to showcase OLED - and it's not a coincidence that it launched with the OLED Switch, Nintendo knows what they are doing.
DLSS can upscale automatically, the devs don't need to do anything special, so why do they need 4K dev kits?
Btw, Machine Learning can also interpolate frames and turned 30fps to 60fps - high-end TV can already do that but the AI can generate high quality frame rates that looks like native 60fps. So even if the Switch runs a game at 720p @30fps it can be turned into 4K 60fps with Machine Learning.
"Whether Nintendo will still utilise NVIDIA technology in future devices is also interesting; if it develops its own solution it may not need NVIDIA's DSSL tools."
Are you joking? Nintendo can't build ML hardware, Nvidia is still the king in ML hardware. In fact I think Nintendo signed the contract with Nvidia years ago because of their ML expertise, they had the road map planned. They knew the tech they need for a portable to go 4K down the road, it can't be done by brute force - it needs Machine Learning.
After Iwata's death, Miyamoto stopped making games and involved himself in the theme park and movie projects. (Reggie left as well - must be some big corporate changes within) This is why there's so few 1st party games for Switch. You can tell without his supervision, recent Nintendo games feel different - it just doesn't have that fun spirit of old.
The only thing positive about this game is the Ghibli graphics. Even Nintendo got fooled into promoting this game in their Direct.
The developer should spent a couple of years polishing the game - not just the bugs but the gameplay as well. It's just stupid to release a game and getting bad reviews then frantically patching it up when the damage has already been done.
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Re: UK Sales Data Shows A Strong Start For Switch OLED
People bought it for the white Joycons.
Re: Soapbox: Joy-Con Aren't Perfect, But They're Great For Sick Day Gaming
You can't get the true Switch experience without Joycon drift.
Re: Nintendo's Switch Exclusive Metroid Dread Is Already Being Emulated On PC
@Austrian There's an Ukrainian girl who likes to pack Switch games and emulator into a standalone app - all you have to do is run it. She has been dumping her releases in the torrent for about a year.
Re: Nintendo's Switch Exclusive Metroid Dread Is Already Being Emulated On PC
Why is this news?
People had been playing high res 60 fps Switch games on PC for the last 2 years. I still play on my Switch, but only in portable mode - which to me is the ONLY selling point of Switch. I think Nintendo knew this too, that's why the latest Switch is made for portable players.
Re: Video: Here's How To Change The Screen Settings On Your Nintendo Switch OLED
Without auto brightness, Youtube videos look like HDR.
Re: Review: Tetris Effect: Connected - Mizuguchi's Masterpiece Finds Its Ideal Platform
If you like Rez, Lumines or Tetris Effect:
Play Sayonara Wild Hearts if you haven't, thank me later.
Re: Video: Analysing The Performance Of The Switch OLED Versus The OG Switch
The first gen Switch uses a 20nm chip, the revision (red box) uses the Mariko chip which is a 16nm chip. The OLED Switch uses the same Mariko chip.
Typically, most company increases the clockspeed of their chip if they are manufactured with a lower nm process - this made the chip runs faster. Nintendo chose to have parity with the first gen, so by keeping the same clockspeed the new revision model runs cooler and therefore gained extra battery life.
It's up to Nintendo, they can easily change the clockspeed, allowing the Mariko chip to run faster at the expense of battery life. Maybe they will unlocked the clockspeed in future firmware? This will encourage OG Switch owner to upgrade.
Re: Switch OLED Comes With A Screen Protector Installed, But Please Don't Remove It, Says Nintendo
Nintendo is protecting their own ass. They don't want to get sued by the parents when the broken glass cuts their kids. Known internally in Nintendo office as the ass-protector.
Re: Bethesda Congratulates Nintendo On Metroid Dread's Launch With Special DOOM Artwork
Bethesda should make a 2D side scrolling Doom.
Re: It’s Official, Grand Theft Auto Trilogy Is Coming To Nintendo Switch
Rockstar is releasing these ancient GTA before launching GTA 5 for Switch. If they sold GTA 5 first, no one will want these dated version.
Re: Video: Comparing The OLED, Switch, And Switch Lite Screens
None of the reviewers use the Youtube app to compare besides games, why? The Youtube videos look so much better on an OLED screen, also with that kickstand - it turns the Switch into a fully functional desktop mini OLED TV.
Re: Review: Tetris Effect: Connected - Mizuguchi's Masterpiece Finds Its Ideal Platform
Switch has the best version because Tetris is better as a portable game, but the most incredible experience is in the VR version.
Rez, Lumines and Tetris Effect are all connected, but music is not an essential part of the gameplay with Tetris Effect - it's just using your gameplay as a midi input.
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Switch OLED Vs Standard Switch - The Key Differences In Pictures
OLED Switch made Youtube app usable - the screen is bigger and more vibrant. The kickstand also made it a great little TV for the desk.
Re: Looking For A Luxurious New Case To Protect Your Nintendo Switch OLED?
This is luxurious:
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Switch OLED Vs Standard Switch - The Key Differences In Pictures
Ask yourself: Do you play your Switch in bed with all the lights turned off? If yes, then OLED Switch is a worthy upgrade - that's when you see the real difference.
Re: Nintendo Switch Transfer - How To Transfer All Saves, Games, Profiles, And User Data To Another Switch (OLED, Lite, Regular)
It's easier using Tinfoil. The irony.
Paying customer always suffered on Nintendo console.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Gives Its Assessment Of The Switch OLED Model
If Nintendo upgraded the SoC and use the same LCD screen, people will say the games look the same in portable mode, only docked players should buy it for the upscaled 4K.
I am surprise DF said the OLED improved the screen latency, they claimed there's less ghosting than the LCD - this makes the screen looks like 120hz ones.
Re: Hardware Review: Nintendo Switch OLED - The Screen's The Star
The biggest difference with OLED is:
When you are playing in the dark.
There is no true black with LCD, especially with all the lights off, black = dark grey.
Re: Hardware Review: Nintendo Switch OLED - The Screen's The Star
People with OG Switch should save their money and buy an OLED TV.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting The "Cloud Versions" Of Kingdom Hearts On Switch?
Nintendo's future is CLOUD, like it or not.
Chip shortages? Doesn't matter, Switch can use the same chip for 10 years - Nintendo already set a road map for cloud gaming. Low resolution gaming stream can be upscaled to 4K - that's what Nintendo is betting on.
Re: This Is What Kirby's New Kingdom Hearts Form Looks Like In Smash Bros. Ultimate
Waluigi was betrayed by Nintendo. They rather invite 3rd party than their own.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
@TSR3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_TV
I think it will be similar to the Playstation TV but fully digital and no gamecard slot. It can be sold at a very cheap price without the screen and joycons. People who only wants to play on TV will love something like this.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
@HenHiro Google "Switch Calcio" will open your eyes. Calcio is the codename for a Switch home unit that Nintendo is still actively working on.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/01/rumour_datamine_apparently_reveals_all_about_the_new_nintendo_switch_revision
"Aula" turns out to be the OLED Switch and "Calcio" is the TV unit that will comes out later. So you see: the clues were discovered many months ago.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
The Switch Pro is not a portable unit. It's a small home console that connects to the TV - where 4K makes sense. You don't need 4K on a portable unit, that's why it's not in the OLED model.
For existing Switch owners who bought the Switch Pro, they can use their current Switch as a wireless controller - this gives them the same Wiii U tablet experience. Nintendo will update old games to support this 'Wii U' feature - like displaying map on the controller screen in BotW.
Re: AAA Clock Is Why We Don't Deserve Nice Things On Switch
With those kickstand on the OLED Switch, this clock makes sense.
Re: Apple Made More Profit From Games In 2019 Than Nintendo, Sony And Microsoft Combined
There are leaks that Apple is making a handheld like Switch that uses their own designed ARM chip. The upcoming M1X chip is as fast as PS4 Pro running on battery, the proposed M2 chip for this handheld is said to be slightly slower than PS5 but has ray-tracing and all the bells and whistles.
Apple was already making deals with all the big game companies, only Ubisoft has leaked the news that they are making exclusive games for this console. Apple has Apple Arcade, a Netflix-like subscription for games - monthly fee is only US$5. Apple will sell the hardware at a high price but it's all you can play at $5/mth.
Re: Sakurai Invites Everyone To Watch Smash's Final Reveal, Whether You Play The Game Or Not
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Re: Random: Sakurai Seems To Be Finally Taking A Break From Smash Bros. Development, With The PS5
Nintendo owed him a large sum of retirement fund.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 2nd)
@Rainz No, Nintendo knew that people are reluctant to jump on the cloud gaming because of performance - the bandwidth affects the latency and overall responsiveness of the games. By using AI upscaling, the game only needs to stream in low resolution. This makes the game feel snappy like it's running natively on your Switch.
Try watching Youtube in 4K and 480p resolution with your phone and you can feel the difference in speed. Imagine streaming in 480p and upscaled to 4K quality. This makes cloud gaming feasible for many people with low bandwidth internet.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 2nd)
@Rainz Actually cloud gaming is the only way to combat piracy. No one can owns the game anymore, it runs from the server. Cloud gaming is already common place, sooner or later Nintendo will go down this path.
Unlike others, Nintendo knows the deficiency of cloud gaming is due to the bandwidth required. Their solution is to stream low resolution video and upscaled it to high resolution. It doesn't need to be 4K, read Nintendo's patent:
"the techniques herein may be applied to other image sizes (e.g., 720p to 1080p; 480p to 1080p, 1080p to 1440p, 1080p to 4k/3840Ă—2160, 720p to 4k, etc."
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2021/0304355.html
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 2nd)
No gaming plans, but I think I just stumbled upon Nintendo's gaming plan.
Nintendo’s New Strategy is Cloud Gaming.
Nintendo knows how to adapt, that’s how this company survived for over 100 years. They came to the conclusion that chip shortages meant hardware shortages, so the solution is to play next-gen games on existing hardware: it’s possible through cloud gaming.
Existing cloud gaming is limited by bandwidth, but with the help of AI upscaling this problem is solved - as only low resolution stream is needed, the machine learning upscaling will turned it into 4K.
This is reason the OLED Switch has a dock that contains an ARM chip that can be updated through firmware, and also the inclusion of a LAN port. In the near future, Nintendo games can be stream from the clouds through the ethernet and upscaled to 4K. The Nvidia Tegra chip in the Switch will become a dedicated upscaler - performing the upscaling function.
For those who aren’t aware, Nvidia Shield already had this AI upscaler since 2019. It uses the same ‘Mariko’ Tegra X1 chip as the Switch revision from 2019 (red box).
This is why Nintendo gave 4K dev kits to developers, the games were not meant to run on the Switch but in the cloud servers!
Re: Advance Wars' Switch Box Art Recreates The Original GBA Cover
I'm glad the gameplay remains unchanged, unlike Fire Emblem - which has turned into a teenage Game of Throne drama RPG.
Re: Upcoming Nintendo Switch Games And Accessories For October And November 2021
The real OLED Switch launch title is Tetris Effect not Metroid. People will be talking in the next few weeks about how good the OLED screen looks with Tetris Effect. It's the best game to showcase OLED - and it's not a coincidence that it launched with the OLED Switch, Nintendo knows what they are doing.
Re: Poll: Do You Use The Black Or White Theme On Your Nintendo Switch?
@drewber2635 If you only play Tetris Effect, the battery will last long.
Re: Poll: Do You Use The Black Or White Theme On Your Nintendo Switch?
With OLED screen, you ALWAY use dark mode to prolong battery life.
Re: Patent Reveals Nintendo Is Working On Upscaling Technology
DLSS can upscale automatically, the devs don't need to do anything special, so why do they need 4K dev kits?
Btw, Machine Learning can also interpolate frames and turned 30fps to 60fps - high-end TV can already do that but the AI can generate high quality frame rates that looks like native 60fps. So even if the Switch runs a game at 720p @30fps it can be turned into 4K 60fps with Machine Learning.
"Whether Nintendo will still utilise NVIDIA technology in future devices is also interesting; if it develops its own solution it may not need NVIDIA's DSSL tools."
Are you joking? Nintendo can't build ML hardware, Nvidia is still the king in ML hardware. In fact I think Nintendo signed the contract with Nvidia years ago because of their ML expertise, they had the road map planned. They knew the tech they need for a portable to go 4K down the road, it can't be done by brute force - it needs Machine Learning.
Re: Rumour: Developers Have Reportedly Been Working On "4K Switch Games"
It's so easy to predict: BotW 2 is confirmed next year, so the 4K Switch will be out next year, it is too big a game not to be a launch title.
Re: Former Mario Movie Star John Leguizamo Isn't Happy With The Casting On The New Film
Should've asked Danny DeVito to play Mario.
Re: It's Official, Super Nintendo World Is Getting A Donkey Kong Expansion
Removed; user is banned
Re: Horizon Chase Turbo Honours F1's Ayrton Senna In New 'Senna Forever' Expansion
Am I the only person playing this game on PS Vita?
Re: Hideki Kamiya Reminds Fans Bayonetta 3 Is A Nintendo Switch Exclusive
Bayonetta 2 runs like butter on the PC with Yuzu or CEMU. I am sure Bayonetta 3 will run just as well.
Re: Nintendo 64 And Sega Genesis Expansion Pack Announced For Switch Online, Launches This October
This proves that Wario is operating Nintendo now.
Re: The Super Mario Movie's Release Date And Cast Are Revealed
After Iwata's death, Miyamoto stopped making games and involved himself in the theme park and movie projects. (Reggie left as well - must be some big corporate changes within) This is why there's so few 1st party games for Switch. You can tell without his supervision, recent Nintendo games feel different - it just doesn't have that fun spirit of old.
Re: The World's First Nintendo Switch OLED Model Unboxing Video Is Here
Old Switch on my OLED TV looks better and bigger.
Re: Random: Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Player Snipes Hyrule Castle Guardian With Incredible 2.6km Arrow Shot
This is just as impressive:
Re: Nintendo Direct To Air Tomorrow, 23rd September
Diablo 2 launched on the same day.
Re: Nintendo Direct To Air Tomorrow, 23rd September
Now that there's no rumours of Switch Pro, Nintendo will finally announced it.
Re: Rumour: It Looks Like Nintendo Will Soon Unveil A New Controller For Switch
I think it's a new AC adaptor.
Re: Baldo Gets A Second Switch Hotfix, Resolves All "Known" Bugs And Glitches
The only thing positive about this game is the Ghibli graphics. Even Nintendo got fooled into promoting this game in their Direct.
The developer should spent a couple of years polishing the game - not just the bugs but the gameplay as well. It's just stupid to release a game and getting bad reviews then frantically patching it up when the damage has already been done.
Re: Nintendo's Global Marketing Campaign For Metroid Dread Continues
Nintendo is the only company in the world who can sell a 2D side scroller at AAA full retail price.