
It's only the seventh day of the year and we've already got some wild Nintendo rumours circulating online, so grab some salt and read on.
According to an article over on Wccftech, well-known dataminer and console hacker SciresM has uncovered "new information" about the rumoured Switch 'Pro' model by sifting through firmware code - although the source says these details may not necessarily be accurate and there is a fair bit of speculation, too.
With this in mind, the revised system could apparently be codenamed "Aula" and utilise a Mariko SoC. In addition to this, it's believed it will feature both docked and handheld play, 4K support in some way or form and could potentially include an OLED screen. The Realtek chip might also be in the dock, rather than the system.
Here's exactly what SciresM had to say, via ResetEra:
Nintendo actually is working on a new model with upgraded display stuff and has been for ~1.5-2 years. I personally believe it's 4K given the signs I'm seeing in the firmware, but that's not confirmed yet and could be wrong.
The new hardware is codenamed Aula, it's using a Mariko SoC. There's a bunch of references to it in code (atmosphere supports the new display already in theory).
The tablet itself definitely has an upgraded display, I don't know if it's 4K.
Aula has firmware support some Realtek chip that advertises itself as a "4K UHD multimedia SoC", too, hence my belief it's 4K. That chip might be inside a new dock and not inside the tablet, though, there's no way to tell from the firmware code yet.
Aula explicitly supports handheld mode. It is not docked only; that's calcio, which seems like it's for internal only/never releasing since Calcio has no gamecard slot and no battery.
You can check boot sysmodule display code if you're curious. The new display doesn't support power management pwm, it has its own vendor specific bs I had to reverse engineer and implement a month or two ago.
Mariko has *substantially* better cooling and battery life. It's a bona fide die shrink over the original generation.
My best guess (pure speculation, no firmware indication this is the case) is that if they need extra performance, they'll push it to higher clock rates across the board.
But yeah, I speculate games will be like "DSi enhanced" games were, or like how some games benefited from PS4 Pro despite working on PS4.
Checked my previous discussions with hexkyz, the upgraded tablet display is an OLED screen. Probably not higher resolution on tablet itself, so I guess the 4k realtek chip is more likely to be new dock than I thought it was.
Vanilla probably won't.
We're in the realm of speculation. Aula has new GPIO that redbox doesn't related to support for this, so I would tentatively guess that redbox units won't support the new thing.
Switch 'Pro' rumours have been circulating for a few years now, and a number of industry analysts are still confident it will show up at some point this year. You can catch up on all the previous developments in our comprehensive guide.
What are your own thoughts about all of this? Do you think any of this could come true or is it as unlikely as that fake Nintendo Direct leak? Tell us down in the comments below.
[source wccftech.com]
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This isn't over ambitious. Improving what makes the Switch great (battery life etc) is probably on the money for an upgrade.
Come on. It's predicted to be the best selling console this year. They aren't going to replace it lmao!
Much like how the New 3DS added another analogue 'nub', I reckon analogue triggers would be a welcome addition. Then bring on F-Zero!!!
I don't see Nintendo putting a 4K screen on a new Switch model. The current Switch can't even reach 720p on any AAA game or even Nintendo's own games, so a 4K screen would just be a waste.
This is quite believable. The next update will be similar to what they did with the 3DS, which is incremental but much appreciated. The number of games that will be affected will be negligible.
@Emob I don't think it needs 4K at all on the screen. I would be lying if I said I could appreciate the difference lol!
I'm perfectly happy with my Switch Lite..
Rumours and attention seeking.
Stop fuelling this cr*p.
My ideal Switch Pro would get nearer to 1080p native in handheld, and somewhere between 1080p - 4k in docked. Even something that hits 720p locked in handheld would be nice.. A few recent games, especially Age Of Calamity have burnt my eyes trying to play with it’s sub 480p resolution.
1080p on the internal screen would be more than enough. 4K display in the console itself is pretty much off the table Id say. which is a good thing, it would be a huge waste of resources putting 4k on a ~6-7 inch display. 1080p would look razersharp on 6 inches. 90 or 120Hz and some sort of Nsync would be nice though.
No need for a pro model yet.. The OG is doing just FINE
Too many attention seekers online pretending to be "in the know" that if they spot enough.. One day they may get it right 😂
I hope the revision is truly on the handheld side as well. Don’t need 4k there, but 1080p @ 30-60fps would be awesome for handheld.
But it’s been my fear that the handheld aspect won’t change much, if at all, and they’ll basically release a “Pro Dock” of sorts to boost the system’s capabilities.
I rarely play my Switch on TV, leaving that for the kiddos or occasional late night PS4/Xbox session. So hopefully a Pro revision wouldn’t leave us “handhelders” out. If not, I’ll buy it day one. If it’s just mainly a dock revision, I’ll hold off.
Edit - I might buy in just for an OLED screen. I compared my Vita to my friend’s OG OLED Vita and the difference was amazing.
Daily Switch Pro thread. I clicked it. I commented.
Bye-bye!
I believe it when I see it.
Would explain the lack of basically any announcements. Be it first- or third-party.
@Yanina ???
(Don't help rumour mongers lol)
@GrailUK Well what is actually announced except Monster Hunter and some Indies?
4K is not a smart target whatsoever.
@Yanina 3d Mario + Bowser, A small title called BotW2. I reckon Nintendo will still announce their games like a month or so before releasing this year. It's ridiculous for a company revered by the industry for their creativity to blurt out everything they are dong for the next year, have Covid create a delay and have some entrepreneur rush out that idea and get 'first!'.
As for AAA? I'm not really here for those, unless they are done well.
@GrailUK Not really that convincing of a list. And BOTW2 doesn't even count until a date and the fact that it is NOT a title for the rumored revisioned version. (Meaning no downgrade on the current Switch)
As for the current Switch we only have one WiiU remaster, Monster Hunter and Indies really locked down.
Edit: and since the Switch is basically the hot stuff right now, it is just super confusing for me that not more games are announced for it.
I would love a switch lite done as a lovely 3ds style clamshell design, wouldn’t that be nice with different colours xxx
I actually prefer the Switch the way it is. It is almost perfect. They just need to make it better build quality meaning: stronger, better cooling, better joycons and NO DEAD PIXELS!
Oh neat, another Switch Pro dumb rumor.
So much for editorial effort. This piece should be tagged with "comedy - bad effort" not rumor 🤦🏽♂️ seriously, let's ignore some of the flawed logic and just face the fact a first grader could have faked it better 🤷🏽♂️
@Toads-Friend I agree. No need for a Pro model. Nintendo can ride out the next couple of years just fine with first party releases and third party ports of cross-gen titles. I think March of 2023 would be the perfect time for them to release a proper Switch 2. Six years is long enough for consumers to feel satisfied with the lifespan of the original Switch but not so long that the original Switch becomes irrelevant.
4K handheld display is such a waste. You can't see the difference with that pixel density. 1080p at best. Even PC monitors are wasteful at 4K under a certain size. You won't notice the difference sitting mere inches from it. Waste of processing power, battery life, and money. Now displaying 4K on a TV is another thing.
I am loaded with salt already, cause i hate these so called rumors. Even if they'll be a switch pro or whatever don't expect a huge leap in power or changes from the original. I will like to be proven wrong, but from the looks of things I can't just wrap my head around these rumors.
Having a chip in the dock to upscale the native output to 4K would make sense, as it’d also ensure backwards compatibility with the current game catalogue
All I see is guesses and assumptions. They even state that. This is a big nothing burger.
Can’t see the system having a 4K screen. If it can replicate the current Docked performance on the portable screen that would be great. Some kind of upscaling in the dock seems plausible too. If they can squeeze a little bit more CPU grunt in there that would be very welcome but not holding my breath.
Along with some QOL stuff (Bluetooth audio, less bezel, more storage) this would be a realistic upgrade IMO. I’m not expecting a spectacular leap.
I’d love to think they’ll fix the Joycons but that might be a pipe dream unfortunately.
If I worked at Nintendo I would hide this type of stuff for a laugh just so the geeks can salivate over it.
@electrolite77 This is the way (aka. yeah I think you totally nailed it)
My wishlist for a Switch reversion:
Handheld: 1082 p with a bigger (OLED) display plus extended battery life - and an alloy or magnesium case would be awesome!
Dock: I'd like to see a Switch variant that could be directly connected to the TV - without the need for a docking station. But if this rumour is true, it seems like: not. So, an empowered dock, allowing scaled 4K on TV, would also be fine - I can't see native 4K support anyway.
Its coming up on 4 years of rumors of a Switch Pro, the closer we get to 5 years, the more real it gets obviously. I dont believe they are only working on it for 2 years, I'd say 3.5 years. They are always working on the next hardware. Sony and MS are the same, why is this shocking for people?
It just needs a bigger screen and faster RAM, bigger internal memory, a better docking system, like, smaller or something. New better Joycons, I've been lucky, none of my Joycons have the drift (so far anyways).
And complete backwards compatibility. Which I hope stays forever from now on, since Nintendo want to be like Apple in a way with each new system now.
TBH I dont really know what I would like with a new or 'Pro' Switch. I just want new games not ports, they are great for folk that never played the WiiU back catalog of course, some of them are great games, but I have them all already. I just dont play my switch, WiiU is still hooked up, its slow but still a great system. Its been a long while since I bought a new game. Got the Mario collection, enjoyed it, but haven't touched it since maybe a week after release. Neat to have it though!
Maybe some adult type games from Nintendo would be great. A new horror made internally from them would be interesting.
I want a White bundle officially for new model of Nintendo Switch. ALL white colors.
White dock, White Joy Cons, White Joy Cons grip, White body tablet + 4 colors ABXY buttons.
OLED screen would be an improvement. It's still funny to me how bad the Switch LCD is, especially compared to the original Vita which predates it by several years and is a lower resolution.
Docked play only though for me.
@Yanina We're seven days into the new year... I bet we get more information on Nintendo's plans soon.
Except Monster Hunter Rise and Super Mario 3D World, here are some non-indie games announced for 2021:
I bet we'll get some Zelda related stuff (probably not BotW2, but something), maybe something for Metroid (probably not Prime 4, but something). And who knows about Bayonetta 3?
A 1080p oled screen would be a good upgrade, or even 720p. 4k docked likewise makes a lot of sense if they want to extend its lifespan - I'm not expecting native 4k, but 1080p with good internal upscaling would be much better on the eye than what we have now.
I feel like I am the only one without a 4K tv at home
The PS5 and XBOX Series X barely have 4K60, no matter how you upgrade the current Switch model. 4K is NEVER going to happen. (Unless you get DLSS, but that's basically rendering at 1080p and then upscaling)
Aaaand we're back to unironic Switch Pro™ coverage.
@Menchi
Switch LCD is superior PSVita v2 with LCD. Much brighter, and PSVita Oleds är burn-in a regular problem
I seriously doubt the current gen console would ever see a 4k release. Even the PS5 and Series X won’t push 4K for all titles and many will have adaptive resolution. Look at the size of those systems compared to what Nintendo has to work with. I also fail to see a huge benefit too given games will have to downscale to a mobile display and games need to be efficient enough to play on the go.
Figures released in the past showed the Switch was only used around 50% of the time docked by people. That’s a huge investment into something half the customer base doesn’t need, and a big burden on developers to do right.
Also, the Switch media is too limited in size to cost ratio to effectively support widespread 4K game distribution. As it is many devs struggle to get games into a 32GB cart, assuming they don’t skip it and cheap out with 8GB carts like many do. Compared to the capacity other consoles have its an issue. I also don’t believe SD cards would be sufficient for storage from a performance perspective for 4K releases, not would the 32GB internal memory be from a capacity perspective. That’ll be an issue in terms of costs.
I’d think any revision may bump the mobile display up to 1080p and give the system a bit more grunt to get a more reliable 30/60fps from titles. Any substantial performance jump to 4K is years away and would be a brand new generation Switch. The revision may also have increased storage capacity to 64 or 128GB of storage, but still fundamentally allow expansion via SD cards. They also should add Bluetooth audio.
But yeah, massive graphical advancements seem unlikely to me. Maybe the dock would get a high quality up scaling chip, but I doubt the system will natively render 4K.
Realistically, the Switch is a fine console as it is. Everyone knows its place in terms of capabilities and most studios are still falling over themselves to support it anyway.
In an ideal world there are many upgrades you could make however a realistic wishlist would probably be:
OLED screen up to 1080p in handheld
Improved Battery
Improved onboard storage capacity
Dpad (already have the Hori one but an official one would be nice)
DLSS 4k in docked
Some sort of CPU/GPU upgrade for devs to use as a boost option
All of those would be things that wouldn't exclude the current userbase from future game releases which I think would be a mistake.
Using the dock as a way to boost the performance so it can to 4K is a no brainer, surely?
Basically the rumor merchants have been stating the obvious since the Switch launched, that at some point in time Nintendo were going to release a revision of the original console, that would also offer a slight cosmetic difference as well.
The original Switch has already received a slight upgrade which improved battery life, now it's time for a full revision model. All this then will mean that the core market puts up it's wish lists of a Switch with PS4 Pro power, citing that the console needs this to stay relevant, which is of course total nonsense.
I’d certainly buy it.
@ROBLOGNICK not really. Processing Chip, memory, etc. All have to align.
A dock can only do so little.
What can be done is artificial upscaling via a trick called DLSS. The chip is apparently capable of doing that. 4k is a possibility, it’s just not natively 4k, but it requires way less processing power.
I'd buy it but I'd love to see a micro sd a2 reader in it for better sd card storage speed read and writes and an improved wifi card for latency and download speeds. Latency needs improvement because I don't even touch smash online why bother.
Hang on they have been working on a pro switch for 2 years and all it can do is output 4K via a dock.
Wow! Sad times Nintendo!
I'm ready for a switch pro only question is will it be the same price as current switch or more.
Just make a Dock with an additional CPU/GPU that helps out the Switch, everybody can buy it if wanted.
@Zorox88 even half of these specs would likely put a Switch Pro at a higher price point than XsX and PS5 - both of which are sold at a loss and Nintendo has repeatedly said they won't sell consoles at a loss.
The XsS already costs less than a standard switch.
It should be a dock upgrade, It would be cheaper and easyer on people who own a switch.
We need double the RAM, faster processors, higher resolution. Then we can experience 60fps without dumbed down graphical textures and enjoy games like everyone else was on the last generation.
I doubt that this "leak" us real, but it's more believable than others.
@Lord You do realize this is all rumor/speculation, right...?
Switch has been using Mariko since the Lite/2019 revision, so I can't see this being much of an upgrade! Perhaps a minor hardware revision...
i really hope its just a new dock , cant bother buying entire thing
Another switch pro article huh? Do we really need more of those?
I don't get why the Nintendo can't get the same performance out of the 1st generation chooser invidia did with it's TV range or why Nintendo don't just put in the invidia second version of the Invidia TV pro chips in the updated Switch the Invidia TV pro upscale pics plays in 4k games look fantastic on it isn't this a quick cost effective way to boost the Switch extend its life & give 4k output??
I haven't been able to find any canned pineapple at the grocery store for quite some time. Every other kind of canned fruit is there, but not pineapple. The pandemic really illustrates what the popular products are!
@shoeses
Sarcasm
Possibly a 1080 display with higher clocks to "reach" for that resolution in handheld. Otherwise it's just 4K A I upscale and streaming like a Shield. Higher clocks in docked so games "reach" their dynamic peaks more consistently. Not even sure Nintendo would charge more for it. This replace the current model at £280, and lower the standard Switch to £220. If anything just to remain competitive.
An OLED version would be great, definitely would pay extra for that. What the Switch needs though, really more than any other system, is HDR support. I know I said it a billion times before, but that is must. As far as the power budget goes, HDR will be a huge boon to visual appeal in Nintendo games at basically zero cost to their budget. It's insane that they failed to embrace this out of the gates, certainly on their 1st-party games. Nintendo of all companies, which is all about colorful, high contrast games ... bonkers, bonkers.
I hope its not like the DSi but rather like the ps4 Pro... I will get the new switch but I think that practices like teh DSi ruins the concept of consoles...
Outputting 4k resolution via dock can really only get you so far. Not only would it be virtually a pointless upgrade, but it also would cost extra money on an already moderately-expensive console.
If the screen itself was 4k, good luck. It'll probably become more expensive than the PS5/XSX.
Sounds more like a pro dock than pro switch.
My ideal revised Switch- hardware that can run BOTW and Links Awakening without slowdown. Joycon with a D-Pad. A smaller dock. No wobble on the joycon and cracking of plastic, scratches on the screen, just generally more robust build quality. I'd be happy with attached controls to avoid flex and wobble. I don't need or want 1080p handheld gaming (but would love 1080p so it could slide into real VR goggles for metroid prime... maybe next gen).
Sony PS Vita is so ahead of time, using OLED back in 2012.
The 4K is done using up-scaling trick with a chip in the dock, it's not real 4K - Switch is incapable of that.
Some of these upgrades sound nice, some a little ridiculous (and IMO, useless)
Just give me:
-720p locked w/ ability to hit 1080p in portable
-1080p locked in handeld
-4K streaming ability for apps (output to TV, not in handheld)
-longer battery
-reduced bezel & anti-reflective screen, also increased screen brightness
-driftless joy-cons
-beefed up SoC able to handle so Switch can run ports at original PS4 capability
@Yanina I guess we must be thankful you aren’t the ceo then lol
Maybe the dock now has it's own processor and storage - and can run games from it. That means the Switch don't need to connect, and can be use in your hands like Wii U gamepad? This allows Nintendo to start selling Wii U/3DS ports this year.
I could see another Switch version releasing. I don't understand why people don't believe in another switch version because it's selling well? That has never stopped Nintendo before.
I absolutely hate rumours except when it's something I want to believe in. That said I'm content with 1080p 60fps and my tv can upscale it for me.
@Bmartin001
I'm perfectly happy with my Launch Switch
@Emob It says towards the end that they believe the 4K chip is in the dock so it's for outputing 4K when docked. The handheld screen appears to be an OLED but no indication about the resolution (probably not 4K, 1080p would be pretty good for a handheld in my opinion).
That would make sense, to allow the screen to display HD whereas a chip in the dock would boost the graphics upto 4K, either natively or as an enhancement. That would allow the handheld to keep a superior battery life in handheld, while allowing the system to push for power when docked.
Nintendo are good at that sort of innovation and now that they're working on this hybrid technology they're only going to learn how to do it better and better.
@GrailUK because ... you don't want more games?
I've said it in a previous article but giving Nintendo's track record for upgrading I'm predicting a new dock first. Make it a 'Switch 1.5' to get both consumer and developer's feet wet for the inevitable full on 'Switch 2' in a year or two. The install base for the Switch is massive and still growing by large numbers. They're not going to want to abandon all those numbers just yet. With that being said I do believe if a 'Switch 2' released tomorrow it would sell big time but I just don't see them leaving standard Switch/Switch Lite owners out in the cold while they're still killing it sales wise.
Main thing I'd like is a larger screen, even if still 720p. Thinner bezel with the same console size would improve handheld play enormously.
@Dm9982 Yeah, whenever I turn on my old Vita that OLED stuns me. It looks so damn good. It would be so awesome to get a Switch with such a great screen.
I'd be fine with a reduction in resolution across the board. The main thing I'd love in a Switch pro would be vastly increased frame rates and variable refresh rate. It would be incredible if both the handheld screen and video output supported variable refresh rate so that even struggling and formerly choppy games could look and play relatively smoothly. I was sold on VRR as soon as I saw it via Sekiro on Xbox one X on my VRR monitor. It simply made 45fps look smooth and acceptable.
But if Nintendo releases a handheld that supports 90 or 120fps that would be very exciting and fun to play!
So what he can report is the codename for it and that he "personally believes" it's 4k. Impressive, man.
@Yanina just because they don’t announce them doesn’t mean they aren’t making any lol. I just thought folk knew this 😀
Don’t know what everyone is worked up about. Not like the thing will have themes and folders, or a second MicroSD slot. Lol
Good grief, only a week into the year and these rumors are already relentless. I don't doubt a new revision is coming at some point, but the original Switch is still doing quite well.
@Emob
The logic here is wrongheaded. The Switch can’t currently power those games in handheld mode at higher resolutions, but a revised model could. I don’t see them doing a 4K anything, unless it’s some sort of checkerboard upscaling, and only in docked mode, because they’ve always chosen to underpower their consoles post GC era.
That being said, I’m ready for a new model if they release it and it seems like enough of a reason to upgrade. If they undercook it the way Sony did the PS4 Pro, then probably not. Unless there’s a sweet Zelda edition...
Get rid of them bezels and Chuck in a slightly bigger screen at 1080p I'm set.
Yea, I mean, this isn't hard to believe. Some kind of 4k upscaling when docked is logical, and a better handheld screen is logical, as well. So... yea. People just need to remember that rendering natively in 4k and 4k upscaling/checkerboarding are entirely different things.
I think it's highly unlikely to have a 4K screen on the console. Is the screen even big enough to see the impact of 4K? Thought you needed like 55 inches or above to see any benefit? Anyway, the current console runs at a lower res in handheld, it's not unbelievable that it will be locked at 1080p if docked can do 4K
And all those saying "but the Switch is doing well why replace it!!1" they aren't replacing it. It's an enhanced model, the same way the DSi didn't replace the DS Lite. The same way releasing the Switch Lite didn't "replace" the Switch and actually made it a more successful console.
@hakjie11 I think that’s just what media/the big companies want you to think. I’ve seen enough memes about how little people care about the 4K upgrades because they’re TVs are still old to think that not having 4K is a minority.
Was this guy speaking english? That almost seemed like a foreign language.
I looked up the SoC mentioned (the Mariko one) and, as far as I can find, this is the same one already inside the v2019 Switch and Switch Lite. That won't pull the 4k...
Anyone with decent expertise here? Are there more than one Mariko codenamed SoCs?
" substantially better cooling and battery life." — that and some faster load times are pretty much all I'm after from a new SKU.
4k docked seems good and all, but what about fps? I would rather 1080p@60fps locked than struggling at 4k. And can we get native support for bluethoot headphones pleaaaaaseeee?
Look at the sales of the Lite vs the base model. Clearly the people want a Switch, not a downgrade.
@Heavyarms55 The switch lite still sold well though. People buy it as a secondary device or just for a cheaper amount of money
@RasandeRose I said original with OLED, which is vastly superior to Switch's low quality screen.
I'd be happy with a bigger, 1080p screen on the handheld... and hardware that can run games like BOTW at 1080/30 without any drops... and Mario games at 1080/60. The new hardware will also allow the Switch to keep getting ports of third party games like DOOM, albeit very "watered down".
I'd bet the Pro dock will upscale to 4K for output to TV... as long as it does a better job at the upscale than most TVs, it will be worth it.
But but NintenDoomed fandom said this can't happen... lmao
What so if this is so true why aren't those saying shouldn't happen still driving horse and buggy. Since that was the most fuel efficient form of transportation. It just tells you how shallow they are. You think after the release they weren't thinking of making a update to the hardware itself? This is why those people aren't in the industry innovations that should tell everyone here. I expect this to come about:
1. 1080p portable **OLED** or not but the cost might stop it.
2. 4K docked remember DOCKED **only in Docked Mode**
3. hopefully upgraded 32gb at least 200gb
Chip Graphics update in the Dock for 4K would be the smart move. You can't pump 4k on and portable and expect meltdown or issues.
Let's not forget people keep harping the vita but Sony was the killer for that. And people keep using vita as the latest but when Switch does that it's oh it can't do that or support that what a lame brain excuse is that. It's all about putting down the Switch because they have nothing better to offer. You want to ride your horse and buggy go right ahead while the rest of us leave you in the dust of despair. It's funny when the ps5 can run ps4 games people are so happy because of the graphics hardware update but the moment you mention the Switch being able to do that then the TROLLS are out in full force saying this can't happen. I do have to wonder how much Green nutrition are they getting nowdays from the Brews.
@anoyonmus It wasn't a flop no. But the original has sold far better. Even with supply problems.
@Menchi
I can't agree.
Its much dimmer than the Switch screen, which makes it worse to use in bright environments, plus it got oversaturated colors. Some mainstream folk thinks that higher contrast is always better no matter what cause it "pops out" more on still pics. In many cases I prefer balanced colors, and the Switch screen comes much closer to a somewhat well-calibrated TV-screen compared to PS Vita. Well, I can't say that Switch has a low quality screen, its a good IPS with balanced colors and better brightness compared to all the older handheld consoles.
I am in need of a 2nd Switch my OG one is on it's 3rd Joycon replacement and I am hoping for something better on a new one than a longer battery life.
@InJeffable exactly right. I can’t imagine the logic of “now that 60 million people have spent $200-$300 on a Switch, we should render it obsolete! Even though we’ve said multiple times we’re not going to replace the Switch for a decade! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!”
@GoonerByron Ha! I keep thinking I need my glasses but they are already on. 👓
I wouldn't say no to an oled screen. Vita gave us one ten years ago. Some bluetooth for my headphones would be good too.
@Dm9982 Yeah that screen on the Vita 2000 sucks balls.
I read die shrink and battery. I'm way cool with that. 😎
If it runs cooler with better battery, they might even up the clocks some while still running cooler longer.
...and most important, it will run my carts. I hope this news is true.
I'd like two SD card slots if there's a revision.....
Its makes sense really the hardware for upscaling to 4K would be built into the dock itself rather than than the actual console in order to save on manufacturing costs
Why is everybody calling it Switch Pro? Will we be able to make money with it vs the current model?
They should call it New Switch or SwitchS or Switch UHD....
I'll pass and wait for the Switch 2
They need to release that with a banger first party game and not do that stupid thing with the NEW DS where they made 2 games to support the higher specs.
@Menchi Not sure what you're talking about, the Switch screen isn't that bad. It's the best screen at this point. I play Ys VIII and Rayman Legends on both and it looks better on Switch and I own the original PS Vita.
@Retro_Player_77 It is objectively a low end, entry level LCD.
so no new enhanced graphics? meh :/
And I speculate that the -New- Switch will have a 69K screen.
Plausible and the context and reputation of the source makes some sense. Firmware could potentially be straddling multiple models if the hardware is similar? That part is the tough part for me to evaluate though. I would imagine hints like this in the OS more than a firmware examination. New GPIO for better display bandwidth makes some sense, too.
Improved screen and battery life with a modest performance increase when portable and larger performance leap when docked
That sounds like something Nintendo can sell and something I would buy.
Maybe its code for a console in development. Aula seems like a name for a brand new console. i really doubt they would release a 4k switch when the current model cant even pull off 1080p 60 fps in their own games. the switches development started in 2015, they may just be adding the code for a new console to the switch so they can develop games and both the switch and this new console. but this is just pure speculation so what the heck do I know.
The Switch revision that was released last year or so uses Mariko, and it is no where close to running 1080p games consistently. I'm not seeing how we're bumping up to 4k...
Release a new console that's similar to the current one while the current one is still selling very well... It worked for the Wii so why wouldn't it work on switch?
As soon as this person said it's using the Mariko SoC(already in the 2019 model) and acted like it was new was when this became obvious BS. Also OLED is still too expensive and Nintendo wants to keep the costs down to maintain a profit. The most logical theory is that they will use the Nvidia budget Xavier SoC released in 2020 called the NX(15 watt). It has the Tensor AI core allowing it to use DLSS(From the job posting a while back we learned Nintendo is messing with DLSS.)
They probably will only add 1gb of ram to help with the increased demands while keeping costs down. 720p in handheld mode and NOT 1080p, but there were some meetings with Sharp on the LCD's so the colors might look better or the screen size slightly different. It may have a larger screen to body ratio.
Keep in mind this SoC is only around 400 gflops increase in power from the Mariko but that does allow them to turn on more bells and whistles like draw distance, shadows, post processing, etc while in 720p(Basically allowing Witcher 3 to look like it does in docked mode.) Battery life would increase by 1-2 hours from the 12nm manufacturing process and they won't have to replace the battery model at all. They might even reduce the battery MaH by 1000 to cut costs more and still have around the same life as the 2019 model.
Then for Docked mode you would have 1080p and not have to butcher the games with messy dynamic resolution scaling. You would set a resolution internally and use DLSS upscaling to always hit 1080p while turning up the visual effects as much as possible(Witcher 3 could do this in a patch and look close to the PC version in docked mode.)
Finally they call it something silly like "The New Nintendo Switch" and sell it for $349/£329 while lowering the price of any remaining original to $279/£249 and phase it out.
@Menchi
Not really. Entry level LCD is like the Wii U gamepad yellowish tn-panel. The Switch IPS is nothing special, but its of good quality with the console price in mind.
i would like a dedicated console version of the Nintendo switch. i never use it in handheld mode. besides, i ended up having to purchase a new Nintendo switch a while ago since the screen got all warped and ended up getting a few other hardware issues that caused it to fail.
i just hope the newer model has a better system to prevent the screen from warping as well as any heating issues. as well as fixing that joy-con drift issue that i keep hearing about. thankfully i have never gotten that issue and hopefully i never will.
@RasandeRose The fact you compared a capacitive touchscreen with a resistive touchscreen shows me we're done here since you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Shoulda known, being on a Nintendo site.
A 4K display on the switch itself? Coupled with another Mariko X1 die shrink? Please put the coolaid down and back away son.
I really do hope Nintendo are working on getting DLSS support going for the eventual 'pro' console or whatever it gets called though. Properly implemented, it's more impressive and immediately impactful than most in game ray tracing TBH.
Are we really supposed to believe this c**p that all these supposed “leakers” put out. Well then fine, I’m a new Nintendo leaker and I hacked switch and found there is switch pro with 4K enhanced dock, better joycons and all that good stuff coming out. Can I have an article now?
@Menchi
No, I compared a tn LCD screen with Switch IPS. But since you hate towards Nintendo fans, I agree that we are done here, Im not arguing with bigots
This is plausible. I could see a 1080p screen portable and some ability to do 4k on simple games on the TV. I could also see no upgrade to resolution at all, but rather a more modern design, sleeker, brighter screen, etc. I'd like to see some upgrades inside to get better dynamic resolutions and framerates but don't know if that kind of thing is possible for existing games.
@idrawrobots I was hoping for 420k myself.
Ehh, still sounds a little too far-fetched. I'll reserve judgement until an official announcement is made.
@RasandeRose @Menchi does nothing but hate on the Switch. Ireland's no.2 troll behind Sligeach, but at 94wpm. This site offers rewards for anyone who can find a positive comment by him.
I have a feeling something big is in the works for Nintendo. But as for the Switch and Switch Lite they are still doing well so I don't see anything going on there for while yet.
I wonder what Nintendos next console will be. It'll have to be switch 2 right? It'll seem like a step down if the next one is just a home console
Honestly the only problems I think need solved with a Switch pro would be framerate (15 fps on Mario Kart is NOT fun), the kickstand, and stick drift.
As long as there's no exclusive games i'm happy, just make it like the PS4 Pro and X1X and not the New 3DS.
DSi enhanced or New 3DS approach?
DSi enhanced would unlock new features or framerate for example (Labo VR here we go).
New 3DS would be exclusive games or 4K ports, as download size will be quite bigger.
@WiltonRoots
Thanks for the info. Then I wont waste time on him.
@Yanina
So you're saying Nintendo is holding off on games until they release a Switch Pro...which by the games makes no sense.
How is selling a Pro system with more games going to help?
It's not a replacement system so there's no need for it to have (m)any exclusive games.
Otherwise, it might as well be a sequel.
And there are plenty of games coming out this year and beyond, more so than previous years.
I actually think they might sell the dock first as a re-entry to the Home Console market then 2 years down the line release the Switch Pro with similar specs....The two then work together to form one next-gen Switch console and the process repeats.
A simultaneous release could work as well but it means the dock will likely not have much technology in it as they can't sell the two separately as easily.
@FredsBodyDouble
So many Switch games would be upgraded by default with higher GPU and CPU performance, because they use dynamic resolutions calculated by algoritms. They wouldn't even have to patch the games to at least stick to the roof resolutions.
@Smigit you sir have made the best arguments for why we shouldn’t expect too much on the next switch.
We’ll see.
I’m expecting a marginal New 3DS like boost, nothing more.
If we want 4k that’s just not going to happen, even next generation is a stretch and will ONLY be achieved if they integrate Tensor Cores for DLSS. That’s a next gen thing, not a refresh thing.
@RasandeRose Yeah I mean it's only video games, why try and be edgy when he has as much edge as a ball? Baffles me. Life's too short.
I just want it now. I was ready to buy a Switch for Christmas but I can't do it knowing how close an upgrade is.
@depwnz
So it will be as powerful as PS5, half the price and 1/10 of the size. Amazing
I hear this every month grain of salt
@Thoughts I recall a report some time back that, among smaller screens such as those for smart phones, OLED actually became less expensive than LCD. Perhaps it won't affect the price in a negative way.
since the release of Switch on march 2017, there rumors of this Switch Pro(i tired of this), can we just enjoy our Switch or Switch Lite, why the rush for a better performance Switch? Switch is still selling well with the base model and Switch Lite, lets suport the base model and Switch Lite, a lot of sites and You Tube Channel foolish believe Nintendo need a Switch Pro to suceed, how foolish they are, Switch is the best selling hardware for 3/4 consectitives years, even PS5 e Xbox Series X is not a treat to Nintendo.
I always have some salt on me now days
Double the ram to 8gb thats all i want.
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