@donniedarkenson If Federation Force truly ends up being a bad game, then that's one thing, but it's not even out yet, so who's to say.
I for one welcome a mission/action focused Metroid. Do I think this is how all Metroid games should be from here in out? No. But this will be a fun game, and I think it's a great take on the series.
If it's bad, then people should be upset. But right now, this game doesn't deserve all the hate it's getting.
I always thought that with people finally getting their wishes granted of being able to play Nintendo games without buying a Nintendo console, sales and interest in Nintendo would decline.
Guess I was wrong...
Still a bit pessimistic, but I'm glad to be wrong for once.
Now we just have to deal with elitist jerks being upset over new players "ruining" what's supposed to be a simplistic, family friendly RPG...
I don't know why linear games are all of a sudden a sin... As someone who prefers more linear games, it's very depressing seeing every game go open world, and getting more complicated. I'm not saying complicated games shouldn't exist, but I'm tired of every game having to use every button on the controller, and every game having to sink hours in to it before you get started.
My problem with so many open world games is that they're all so story driven, which always turns the game in to a "Get to point A to point B", but do to the size of the world, it just takes ages to get to point B to continue the story. All the things you come across while traveling to point B are more distractions than anything else. Story and exploration don't mix, one must be sacrificed for the other.
The Legend of Zelda has always been about exploration, I understand this, but this seems like overkill. A Link Between Worlds was perfect for me due to the smaller size of the world, shorter length, and it's simplicity.
I don't understand why gamers are so offended over the idea of their mom being able to play a game.
Part of the appeal of Nintendo games are their accessibility. Having a sample goal, and only using a few buttons.
I feel this is the real problem. Their games are very universal, appealing to both western and Japanese audiences, but gamers want even Mario games to be a complicated mess.
I personally hate having to use every button on the controller, not to mention that it's not user friendly by doing that, and could turn some people off less experienced players.
I wouldn't want a remake of the game, because I have a feeling it wouldn't be for Nintendo consoles(I only buy Nintendo consoles), and they'd probably get Tetsuya Nomura to do the artwork, and his style is way too overly asymmetrical, overly designed, and/or too emo for Chrono Trigger.
As for a movie, I'd watch it If Akira Toriyama did the artwork, but I feel Chrono Trigger would work better as an anime series.
We need more to go on. All this is doing right now is building up more, and more hype, and when the NX finally gets revealed, it won't match the hype, and fail.
@Philo I'm all for personality and character, but immersive gameplay? I'm someone to which immersion doesn't work on. I'm fully aware I'm playing a game, or watching a show, but I'm getting off track.
I don't see why lore matters either, especially if it's all made up. Who cares in the end, especially if the sequel ends up doing something completely different story wise.
I don't need to know why the the bad guy captured the princess this week, I just know I want to save her. In the end, it doesn't matter, because a new guy will capture her next week for different reasons.
If you like more story focused games, that's fine. But please don't ask for storyless games to have story. Mario doesn't need story, Splatoon didn't need the sea scrolls, and I wish Zelda stopped with story.
@Philo But video games shouldn't be much more than a pleasant distraction.
I don't know about you, but I for one am sick to death of hearing about how video games should replace movies, and sports. I hear it all the time.
It's like there isn't any other form of entertainment these days. TV, comics/manga, movies, sports. They're all out classed by video games. And every time I argue with them, they all call me closed minded, or that it's people like me holding video games back.
If Miyamoto wants to go back to the 80's with video games, then I will stand by him.
@SaKo It's because Miyamoto hates things people like,and likes things people hate.
His dislike of story of story in video games, especially Mario(Which I will agree with Miyamoto), and his belief in simple controls that make him come up with interesting things, like the controls in Star Fox Zero(To which I also agree with, and defend).
@Yorumi Clearly you take video games way too seriously. I bet you'd even argue that they should replace movies, and sports too.
I'm not gonna lie, there have been some cash grab games, like Amiibo Festival, but I see nothing wrong with Star Fox Zero, and people would've liked Ultra Smash had it been released for $20.
Video game hype is crazy high these days, and when a game doesn't meet the hype, it gets ridiculed.
Not to mention that a game of a particular series, gets compared to what people believe is the best game in the series. All Zeldas get compared to Ocarina of Time for example.
I also think people put way too much stock in story. Xenoblade Chronicles X got flack for not having as good a story as the first game, when i don't think that should matter. Xenoblade Chronicles X's world was designed to be more open than the first game, and story had to be sacrificed to do it.
And speaking of stories, people are wanting stories in games that don't need them. I will forever be confused as to why people want a story driven Mario game.
I generally don't like them. They reach for things that aren't there, then he discards all his work and effort by stating "But hey, that's just a theory!"
And then looking through his videos, he even goes as far as to say that the ending to Five Nights At Freddies is wrong(I personally could care less about FNAF, and I haven't seen the video so correct me if I'm wrong), giving off the Peggy Hill mentality of "That's not what I think, therefore it's wrong!"
And then you have the fan base, that doesn't understand what the word "theory" means, and mistake his theories as fact, and start spreading it around.
They weren't immersive, but that doesn't mean it wasn't fun.
Anyone who refuses to try the game because of the controls, or stops playing because of them, is a closed minded person, who can't deal with anything new. It's really more your problem than Miyamoto's.
No story More trainer customization No more than 2 legendaries And make the EV/IV system less exploitable, to decrease the number of competitive players
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Re: Video: Documentary Looks Over the Sad Demise of Mega Man Legends 3
This is proof Legends do die...
Re: Square Enix Wants to Hear Your Questions About Dragon Quest VII
"Is it an open world, action RPG, with hardly any RPG elements, that appeals solely to the western audiance, and is 500 hours long?"
"No? Then this game sucks!"
But seriously, I'm looking so forward to this game! I never had a PlayStation 1 or two, so I finally get to play DQ 7 & 8!
Re: Metroid Prime: Federation Force is Now Available to Pre-load in North America
@donniedarkenson If Federation Force truly ends up being a bad game, then that's one thing, but it's not even out yet, so who's to say.
I for one welcome a mission/action focused Metroid. Do I think this is how all Metroid games should be from here in out? No. But this will be a fun game, and I think it's a great take on the series.
If it's bad, then people should be upset. But right now, this game doesn't deserve all the hate it's getting.
Re: Metroid Prime: Federation Force is Now Available to Pre-load in North America
@donniedarkenson
"It's different, and I don't like it, so that means it's bad! I know because I haven't played it yet!"
Re: Retailers Expect Pikachu And Pals To Be Big Sellers This Christmas Thanks To Pokémon GO Fever
I always thought that with people finally getting their wishes granted of being able to play Nintendo games without buying a Nintendo console, sales and interest in Nintendo would decline.
Guess I was wrong...
Still a bit pessimistic, but I'm glad to be wrong for once.
Now we just have to deal with elitist jerks being upset over new players "ruining" what's supposed to be a simplistic, family friendly RPG...
Re: National StreetPass Weekend: Summer Edition Takes Place This Weekend in North America
I love Street Pass!
I love Mario Kart!
I'm in!
Re: Hands On: How Will the "Open World" Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Suit a Traditional Gamer?
I don't know why linear games are all of a sudden a sin... As someone who prefers more linear games, it's very depressing seeing every game go open world, and getting more complicated. I'm not saying complicated games shouldn't exist, but I'm tired of every game having to use every button on the controller, and every game having to sink hours in to it before you get started.
My problem with so many open world games is that they're all so story driven, which always turns the game in to a "Get to point A to point B", but do to the size of the world, it just takes ages to get to point B to continue the story. All the things you come across while traveling to point B are more distractions than anything else. Story and exploration don't mix, one must be sacrificed for the other.
The Legend of Zelda has always been about exploration, I understand this, but this seems like overkill. A Link Between Worlds was perfect for me due to the smaller size of the world, shorter length, and it's simplicity.
Re: Nintendo Entertainment System: NES Classic Edition Coming This November, Ships With 30 Games
Girlish squeeing
Re: Nintendo is Opening a Kirby Café in Japan
Time to save up for a trip to Japan.
Re: SGDQ Speedrunner's 3DS Dies During Live Run of New Super Mario Bros 2.
And we should care about this becuse...?
Re: Splatoon's Last Splatfest is Next Month
@gcunit
Darn you! Now I want that to happen!
Re: Splatoon's Last Splatfest is Next Month
So, I get to fight for my squid waifu one last time...
I shall not let you down Callie!
Re: Nintendo is Making a Subtle Shift in Company Focus
@GrailUK I agree.
I don't understand why gamers are so offended over the idea of their mom being able to play a game.
Part of the appeal of Nintendo games are their accessibility. Having a sample goal, and only using a few buttons.
I feel this is the real problem. Their games are very universal, appealing to both western and Japanese audiences, but gamers want even Mario games to be a complicated mess.
Re: Nintendo NX Has A Core Idea Which Doesn't Just "Follow Advancements In Technology", Claims Miyamoto
I'm ok with this.
Re: Trademark Listing Adds Fuel to Talk of Nintendo NX Using Cartridges
@Marce2240 I meant frame rate matters more than graphics too.
Art style, and frame rate matter more than graphics.
Writhing these at work, so forgive my writting.
Re: Trademark Listing Adds Fuel to Talk of Nintendo NX Using Cartridges
@MadAussieBloke That doesn't bother me at all.
Art style matters more than graphics, as well as frame rate.
Graphics should be the last thing people should look at. But I feel like the only one that thinks this anymore...
Re: Miyamoto and Bill Trinen Discuss Why Breath of the Wild is Called an "Open Air Adventure"
@patbacknitro18 This guy gets it.
Re: E3 2016: Reggie Says VR "Needs to be Mainstream" For Nintendo To Get Involved
I will never understand the fascination with VR.
Re: E3 2016: How The Sin of Getting Lost Has Been Pardoned in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
I just hope the controls are simple.
I personally hate having to use every button on the controller, not to mention that it's not user friendly by doing that, and could turn some people off less experienced players.
Re: Nintendo of America is Putting on Another National StreetPass Week Starting on 10th June
That penny!
Re: Nintendo Announces E3 eShop Discount Plans and Miitomo x The Legend of Zelda Promotion
But what about those of us who don't have/want a Twitter?
Re: Nintendo NX Production Reportedly Pushed Back To 2017 To Incorporate Virtual Reality
I don't understand the worship VR gets! I'll never understand it! It's nothing special! Stop pretending it's special!
Re: Chrono Trigger Director Would Love To Create A New "High End" Version Of The Game
I wouldn't want a remake of the game, because I have a feeling it wouldn't be for Nintendo consoles(I only buy Nintendo consoles), and they'd probably get Tetsuya Nomura to do the artwork, and his style is way too overly asymmetrical, overly designed, and/or too emo for Chrono Trigger.
As for a movie, I'd watch it If Akira Toriyama did the artwork, but I feel Chrono Trigger would work better as an anime series.
Re: Writer Of Divisive New Mega Man Cartoon Asks Fans To Give It A Chance
"Just because our collective approach doesn't match your ideas is not an attack on you."
This is something the internet desperately needs to learn!
Re: Random: Japanese Gamers Decide Which Starter Pokémon Is The Most "Seriously Useless"
Piplup isn't THAT bad...
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's Next Generation Handheld Is Codenamed "MH"
We need more to go on. All this is doing right now is building up more, and more hype, and when the NX finally gets revealed, it won't match the hype, and fail.
Re: Nintendo Publishes Part Two of the Miyamoto and Hayashi Star Fox Zero Interview
@Philo We'll disagree then.
I just feel if you want good story telling then go read a book. If you want good visual story telling, then go watch a movie, or a TV show.
The medium should not be taken as seriously as it is, but I guess I'm the weird one.
Have a good day. (Not being sarcastic)
Re: Nintendo Publishes Part Two of the Miyamoto and Hayashi Star Fox Zero Interview
@Philo I'm all for personality and character, but immersive gameplay? I'm someone to which immersion doesn't work on. I'm fully aware I'm playing a game, or watching a show, but I'm getting off track.
I don't see why lore matters either, especially if it's all made up. Who cares in the end, especially if the sequel ends up doing something completely different story wise.
I don't need to know why the the bad guy captured the princess this week, I just know I want to save her. In the end, it doesn't matter, because a new guy will capture her next week for different reasons.
If you like more story focused games, that's fine. But please don't ask for storyless games to have story. Mario doesn't need story, Splatoon didn't need the sea scrolls, and I wish Zelda stopped with story.
Re: Nintendo Publishes Part Two of the Miyamoto and Hayashi Star Fox Zero Interview
@Philo But video games shouldn't be much more than a pleasant distraction.
I don't know about you, but I for one am sick to death of hearing about how video games should replace movies, and sports. I hear it all the time.
It's like there isn't any other form of entertainment these days. TV, comics/manga, movies, sports. They're all out classed by video games. And every time I argue with them, they all call me closed minded, or that it's people like me holding video games back.
If Miyamoto wants to go back to the 80's with video games, then I will stand by him.
Re: Nintendo Publishes Part Two of the Miyamoto and Hayashi Star Fox Zero Interview
@SaKo It's because Miyamoto hates things people like,and likes things people hate.
His dislike of story of story in video games, especially Mario(Which I will agree with Miyamoto), and his belief in simple controls that make him come up with interesting things, like the controls in Star Fox Zero(To which I also agree with, and defend).
I stand with Miyamoto on many things.
Re: Third Party Developers Share Their Hopes For Nintendo NX
If it was so great to develop on, then why didn't you guys develop more games for it?
Actions speak louder than words.
Re: Feature: Teams and Details Take Shape as The Gauntlet Aims to Revamp the Super Smash Bros. Competitive Scene
If Super Smash Bros. was meant to be played competitively, then why does the game come packaged with items on by default?
Just saying.
Re: Meet The Edgy And Mature Fan-Made Pokémon Game That Aims To "Fix" The Series
I agree with the difficulty, but that can be solved by just giving us a hard mode.
As for the protaginist, s/he's supposed to be silent. The trainer is a representation of you in that world.
As for the story, I don't understand why people love story in pokémon. Really the less story, the better.
Re: Nintendo Plans Corporate Changes That Point to Diverse Business Moves
@Yorumi Clearly you take video games way too seriously. I bet you'd even argue that they should replace movies, and sports too.
I'm not gonna lie, there have been some cash grab games, like Amiibo Festival, but I see nothing wrong with Star Fox Zero, and people would've liked Ultra Smash had it been released for $20.
Re: Nintendo Plans Corporate Changes That Point to Diverse Business Moves
@Yorumi I'll again say too high of standards.
Video game hype is crazy high these days, and when a game doesn't meet the hype, it gets ridiculed.
Not to mention that a game of a particular series, gets compared to what people believe is the best game in the series. All Zeldas get compared to Ocarina of Time for example.
I also think people put way too much stock in story. Xenoblade Chronicles X got flack for not having as good a story as the first game, when i don't think that should matter. Xenoblade Chronicles X's world was designed to be more open than the first game, and story had to be sacrificed to do it.
And speaking of stories, people are wanting stories in games that don't need them. I will forever be confused as to why people want a story driven Mario game.
Re: Rumour: Smash Bros. Update 1.1.6 Only Seems To Impact Bayonetta
How does guy have access to the files before they're even available?
Re: Nintendo Plans Corporate Changes That Point to Diverse Business Moves
@Yorumi
The quality of their games aren't dropping, your standards are just too high.
Re: Nintendo Plans Corporate Changes That Point to Diverse Business Moves
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
People who want to play Nintendo games without buying a Nintendo console are getting their wishes granted.
Re: Random: Solving The Mystery of the Super Smash Bros. Melee Lost Stage
@R-L-A-George
I generally don't like them. They reach for things that aren't there, then he discards all his work and effort by stating "But hey, that's just a theory!"
And then looking through his videos, he even goes as far as to say that the ending to Five Nights At Freddies is wrong(I personally could care less about FNAF, and I haven't seen the video so correct me if I'm wrong), giving off the Peggy Hill mentality of "That's not what I think, therefore it's wrong!"
And then you have the fan base, that doesn't understand what the word "theory" means, and mistake his theories as fact, and start spreading it around.
Plus it's just generally unoriginal.
Re: Random: Solving The Mystery of the Super Smash Bros. Melee Lost Stage
"Game Theorists"
Stopped reading there.
Re: Capcom Could Be Planning to Bring Back Old IP
Unless it's Mega Man, and/or for a Nintendo console, I don't care.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto and Yugo Hayashi Discuss Star Fox Zero's Development
I found the controls great!
They weren't immersive, but that doesn't mean it wasn't fun.
Anyone who refuses to try the game because of the controls, or stops playing because of them, is a closed minded person, who can't deal with anything new. It's really more your problem than Miyamoto's.
I defend these controls, and Miyamoto.
Re: Splatoon's Next Splatfest is All About How You Like to Party
Cosplay!
Re: Nintendo Confirms Its E3 Plans for The Legend of Zelda
I want to enter that contest, but I don't have, or want, a Twitter account...
Being a Google Plus user is hard...
Re: Talking Point: What Would You Like to See From Pokémon Sun and Moon?
No story
More trainer customization
No more than 2 legendaries
And make the EV/IV system less exploitable, to decrease the number of competitive players
That's what I want.
Re: Launching NX Next Year Is The "Proper" Thing To Do, Says Nintendo Boss Tatsumi Kimishima
@Oubie Spla2n.
Re: Nintendo's eShop Revenues Hit a New High, Driven By DLC and Generation I Pokémon
DLC is here to stay, isn't it?...
Re: Nintendo is Selling its Majority Stake in the Seattle Mariners
@IceClimbers Why is that?
I knew a colossal Mariners fan, and he couldn't stand the sight of Nintendo.
What did Nintendo do to them?
Re: Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing Franchises Reportedly Heading to Smart Devices
People Who want to play Nintendo games without buying a Nintendo console are getting their wishes granted...
Re: The Legend of Zelda Wii U Has Been Pushed Back to 2017, Will Release On NX As Well
I'm ok with this!