Nintendo Entertainment System: NES Classic Edition Coming This November, Ships With 30 Games

if its like 20 pounds then ill buy one bit if its lime 50 im not

OMG, I remember thinking of this AGES ago.

Wow O.O

Can't say I expect this at all ;^^.

Not sure if I will buy it myself as I am not from that generation, still really happy for people who want something like this .

What....

I'm stunned... paralyzed... amazed...

What?

I read this in work and audibly laughed. Out of joy.

hah

Is this real!!!!!!?

Can it also play carts?

$100 Australia. Tempting...

Dammit Nintendo! You just found a way to sell me Super Mario Bros again!!!

any news on if this will be released in the UK too?

EDIT: never mind the official UK twitter account just announced it

Oh my.....streetpass meetings will never be the same again.....hrijdbdiehfidjfjdhd....
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Ahem

At last my 23 years old shame shall be lifted!! No longer shall I feel seller's remorse for selling my NES. Nintendo, if you bundle a power glove I'll buy two.

Eh... what? I almost thought this is a belated April Fool's joke. How the heck did they keep that under wraps? This was totally out of left field.
A "bit" of a blindsider, but very cool nonetheless.

Now if only they had added the real controller ports instead of classic controller ones...
I seem to have overlooked that controller at first glance. I'm alright now, thank you...

@Shiryu is going to have a field day with this...

If I already didn't have the physical or virtual console versions of most of these games, I might of bought it.

Wow, Nintendo really? I'm not agreeing to whether this is a good idea or not, maybe they are testing waters, as this could be seen as more of a toy than a console, since it's limited to those 30 games. I applaud Nintendo for trying something different, although this plays right in the hands of Nostalgia and nothing more. I would however like to see Nintendo release a console/service that takes VC and puts it on a monthly service, all you can play Virtual console from GB to DS, NES to N64, (GC would be nice but I'm dreaming)

Is it up for pre-order anywhere?

I don't even know what to say. Holy...wow. Day one.

That's just cool. I might have to get myself one of these - except this will be one of those Xmas time, can't-find-one-anywhere sort of things.

I want one.

Wow. Did not see that coming. Incredible!

What!? Really! I thought I was being trolled at first....

Oooh... pretty.
But wait a minute...
Is that region free ?
I wanna play Chip and Dale 2 NES again.

If it's coming to Canada, I'm definitely buying one!

We get the best console in history this winter! Yippie!

If I didn't already own most if these games, I would get one

Welp it's about time they make a plug n play, but Sega has them beat because their version can play Genesis games plus the included ones

Wait it comes with 30 games? They could charge at least 150 euros for this.

From Nintendo UK's own page:

"Note that an AC adapter for the USB cable is required to play the system but is not included in the packaging."

Um... Seriously.

Holy cow I want that so bad........I wish the nx looks as cool as that!!!!

No thanks, but if it would have had Dragon Warrior 1-4 then it would have been a definite buy

@BensonUii
NEX sounds wonderful name.
Simple and modern sounds.

@Tsurii
ROFL....XD

I'd love an SNES version of this.

Really wish it could play cartridges like the Genesis one does. Still pretty neat.

Also I have a feeling this isn't going to retail for the $150 it would cost to buy all those games on the VC... any chance VC prices might finally be going down a bit next generation?

I own 23 of those games either physically or on vc and I'm still highly tempted to buy this. I may get it anyway just to support the concept. Would make a great gift, that's for sure

Not a bad selection of games. Except it should have been Castlevania 3, not 2, in that list.

Seems like a very smart marketing decision for the xmas season, given that nintendo targets a family audience- I think a lot of 20-30 year olds will buy this as a nostalgia piece for their parents who haven't owned a console since the 80s.

It's a good way to get a slice of virtual console to folks who wouldn't buy a modern console to emulate classics,but wouldn't mind having a tiny dedicated device

This is so unbelievable I'm starting to think this might be a prank!
I mean, how on earth did this get leaked / rumoured about or something.

It looks really cool, although I'm not interested enough to pick one up at the moment. Tbh, I'd prefer if Nintendo kept their focus on the one console that threatens Nintendo's presence in console gaming - the NX.

Needless to say, at least they're capturing the publics attention. Hey, this might even merit the release of the NX due to the publicity this console will gain.

Keep up the good work and well-received surprises Nintendo!

This is such a missed opportunity for them. They could of tied this in with My Nintendo and the eShop, giving you a mini NES that you could choose which games went on it and purchase more from the eShop. It would of served as an entry point for old fans to come back into the Nintendo ecosystem.

"Sadly you can't use your original NES carts with the console"

Well, then there's really nothing more left to be said, is it? :/

@Warruz Very true.

So this is the NX........hahahaha

I wonder if inside Mini NES has very modern machine, unlike original NES. So, maybe we can 'download' VC from eshop and add more game titles to play.

Super pumped by this announcement.

@SanderEvers It's already on other official pages too, including the Dutch twitter page: https://twitter.com/NintendoNL/status/753564234798211072/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

@FireFlower That's just it: it wasn't leaked at all, it's a total surprise.

@Warruz how the hell can you turn a wonderful surprise that literally came out of nowhere into something to complain about? Some people... (shakes head)

Sweet mother of goku!

Just paid attention to the release date - coming this November.
Could this be Nintendo's "get it for Christmas" product?

In other words, this could mean no more Wii U releases until the NX as this console would be, in Nintendo's eyes, the most important thing to focus on during the Christmas season.

Nice! The real question is, will the EU version work at 50Hz or 60Hz?

christmas gift reserved

When i looked at the poster, looks like the size of Mini NES ia about NDS box dimension with very thick height. Just my raw calculation.

So it has the great Castlevania and the not so good Simon's Quest and it doesn't have Castlevania III?! Hmm...

Still, it looks like a great deal! Also I'm surprised it has Super C instead of Contra, though I like Super C more.

Is this a joke?

I'm buying it....

Man, I've been saying this was going to be the NX for years. Too bad I have over 15,000 posts on here or I'd go find some. Though yeah, I know this isn't NX, but some people will think it is on social media.

Congrats Nintendo, you finally did something good right. I think I need to change my avatar now.

@Captain_Gonru I think I've been discussing this with you.

Is this going to be a Nintendo thing where it sells out instantly and never gets restocked? I can see scalpers going crazy buying these.

My mum was asking me just the other day if she could get me another NES after she sold mine years ago. So cool!

Though uh, part of me still wants the original for the sake of nostalgia.

I want this! If I can actually get this before it ultimately sells out (like every special thing Nintendo releases), I WILL get it!

I thought this was a joke at first, so I looked to see if it was April 1st, lol.

I kinda love this idea. I will definitely try to get my hands on one. Kind of a shame you can't use your old games, but still this is a neat holiday gift. Makes me wonder if this "retro" play is a precursor to whatever the NX is. Hmmmm...

I have a feeling that this will sell quite well.

I'm buying this.
I've also decided that I'm buying one for my older sister for Christmas because she keeps wanting to borrow my NES.

@teoulas That's exactly what I was thinking too! I'd hope we are getting the exact same units at the US as it's powered by USB, and supports HDMI therefore there would be no reason to have different builds for different countries. I just hope it can be updated with new games, or new games can somehow be downloaded. But otherwise it's a great surprise!

Be really cool if Shovel Knight made its way on here

Nintendo's announcement strategy meeting:

"So Pokemon Go is a big hit. The people writing news about Nintendo stuff are literally walking around parks reporting on Pokemon Go. You know what? Now that everyone is looking somewhere else we should announce another thing. Not sure if it's the best way to announce things but.... it'll be fun to watch the chaos"

Day one!

nintendo you've done it again im buying this

OH MY GOD! PRAISE THE LORD! WHY am I so EXCITED FOR THIS NOW!

I want it. Where can I preorder and get posted to Ireland please? Anyone know?

If it played carts, it would be the console of the decade. Sweet Jesus.

But regardless- day 1 for me. I am truly blown away. I still have all my original hardware but I can't pass this up. Good job Nintendo.

Just curious....
Can i delete one of pre-installed NES game by accidentally or not ?
Well, if someone not interested with certain titles...

No StarTropics II? D:

Just realized it's Novemeber. Brilliant move by Ntinedo, have a relatively cheap retro-console for the holidays, then people can save their money for the NX in March. Wo knows, maybe a new day is dawning.

So where's the article about how this news affected Nintned's share price? Must be good, unless it's still coming down from it's Pokemon Go high?

Oh my God.
I'm so damn excited for this.

UK release please. I want this

That is s pretty surprising announcement. I'm more in it for the controller, but that should make plenty of money on it.

I have the Retro Freak so I probably won't purchase this. If they would have added the cartridge port though, I would've put one in every room of my house.

well, i know what to get next month.

Holy ****, how could Nintendo keep this under wraps, without a single leak? If the sistem is ready to be released in November, it has already been in production a while.... And no one leaked a single bit of info? The Nintendo Ninjas are working overtime.

I never had a NES (the console is older than me) and I've barely played one or two games from that list. Depending on the price, I think I may know my christmas gift to myself!

Girlish squeeing

Wow!

https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/83/99/34/240_F_83993430_nNF9SYHZojmsQKc4e4L3ANW8PaXMAS9n.jpg

@BensonUii wow, you just nailed it. 100%

@A01 "And the controllers aren't wireless because?"
That's a simple one: because it is supposed to be a mini version of a retro console that is meant to feel retro as well as look retro, and that includes clunky controllers with wires...

But I second your motion for a SNES mini and a N64 mini. For some reason I even expect these to be made at some point. There's actually no reason why they shouldn't or couldn't.

@kobashi100 @readyletsgo It's already officially announced on Nintendo UK's twitter and several other European countries, so it's already confirmed to arrive on these shores, no need to pre-order an American version or anything...

Yes! And YES!

I hope its sound emulation is better than the Sega one.

I guess this is their holiday answer for not having a WiiU game.

Dude, this is is awesome. I really think I'll pick one up when it releases. Love the HDMI and controller support.

Finally! Imagine if the rumor of NX being both handheld and home console would be true for this one. Oh boy!

I've been saying for a long time that Nintendo could and should re release old consoles, if this unit proves popular then I'm hoping for more to be released. Like the SNES, how cool would that be? the N64 and so on. What Nintendo should have done was included a little bit of memory and an internet shop channel, I am pretty excited for this. I also think you could use the pads with a Wii-mote! So there's a release date but as of yet this console is not available as a preorder.

May get it for Christmas because why not I guess.

@televisions Seeing as the Sega one isn't official but licensed and this one is, you can probably count on better emulation and sound.

Ha!

Haven't I been saying Nintendo should do pretty much exactly this—basically re-release its classic consoles and controllers, but maybe with a few minor tweaks here and there to make sense in modern times—and not just with the NES, but with the SNES, N64, and maybe even GC too.?

Now, just to check: Can you actually plug old NES games into it too?

If not, there's no point in making it look basically exactly like a NES (with faux cartridge slot and all); that just cheapens it all a little, imo, as I think it would have looked better using only the NES styling but in a slightly more modern shell.

Edit. Nope, no cartridges.

Again, as I keep saying with everything Nintendo does—it's about doing it right.

As it is, there's very little reason to get this over just downloading these games on the Virtual Console or whatever, unless you're maybe a Nintendo collector or a parent who can't afford a proper console and just wants to get your kids some cheap box that allows them to play a selection of classic Nintendo titles in a relatively simple way.

And don't worry people Nintendo will probably sell a official ac adapter in time!

@Kirk No cartridges, no original controllers: read the article, it's all in there. Luckily, they did model the controllers to look like the original ones, but as you can clearly see, the connectors are wii classic controller ports.

60$ is too much for this ... doesnt really make sense considering the hardware and what it is.

29.95$ with 2 controllers should do the trick ... else, any raspberry for 30$ hooked up to the TV can play all Nintendo stuff easily, including N64... and if u want to make it look a nintendo, im sure u can make ur own Nintendo shell.

Once again super C instead of contra.
I don't know why the original Contra isn't ever in the eshop or Nintendo platforms.

HOLY CRAP! SOLD!!

So we finally know what the NX is.

The controllers are Wii/Wii U compatible

If the price is decent, this might be worth getting

@AlexOlney Not exactly. SEGA licensed Megadrive a few years ago, with a slot to play your old games as well.

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/sega-mega-drive-re-release-235056/

@ThanosReXXX Because I typically look such things through a business lens, and this just screams short sighted.

NX finally revealed!

O yeah, going to buy this one. Will try to pre-order it alter work

The fact it is called
"Nintendo Classic Mini: Nintendo Entertainment System" - would suggest there will be more down the line:
Nintendo Classic Mini: Super Nintendo Entertainment System and Nintendo Classic Mini: Nintendo 64

Cool concept but not interested at all in buying (I'm fine with my Wii U VC collection!). This is clearly how Nintendo is trying to make up for poor Wii U (and potentially 3DS if Pokemon GO destroys the potential of Sun/Moon) sales this holiday season.

Oh god yes. I've never owned NES, I started with SNES and I have all the consoles after that. Husband has NES at his childhood home but has refused to bring it here.

Now this is my chance. Even tho Super C and not Probotector.

So it's like those Atari Flash-back consoles with built-in games. But only 30 games? You could do better Nintendo :/

erm I was amazed until I read...no original carts....sorry its a nice idea but would need to be half the price there saying to be enticed into what is already out there on the market. not just that but you could can get systems that read original carts.
Would it really of been that much more of an effort to offer that? an updated nes with built in games is ok but an updated NES that can play the original carts would have been amazing! but good on Nintendo for testing the water with this

@AlexOlney But still doing it better

I have feeling about Mini SNES, Mini N64, Mini Gamecube and then Mini Wii U. XD
Oh wait... i forgot. Wii Mini has been released and blah....

@Anti-Matter The Mini Wii U turns out to be the true NX we've been teased on for nearly 1 and a half years

Inb4 this is just a custom Wii Mini+preloaded VC. I think Nintendo would never make it possible to play cartridges, they'd have no way to fix flashing, or other similarly dangerous effects.

@ironside1911 You can still do that. While the rest of us enjoy this.

Hmm no USB or ac adapter. Well I have lots of USB cords around and depending on the ac adapter size I can use one from one of my other devices. No biggie.

Now I wonder can more games be added and can it read sd cards

Yeah, the more I read the more this comes across as just a cheap cash-in rather than what I really would have liked: Which is either a genuinely re-released NES that's still compatible with classic NES controllers and still plays classic NES carts (both of which would also be re-released too), but with maybe a few minor tweaks to makes sense in modern times (such as wireless default controllers, with a separate cable so they can still be plugged in and "wired" if you want, a smaller/sleeker box, compatibility with modern TVs, and that kind of stuff), OR, something that really runs with the idea of doing a "New NES" in 2016 and is basically just a wireless NES controller that has the console's tech entirely built into it and lets you play a vast library of digital NES games on it via a dongle you plug into your TV and games you download onto the system (and you can also use it as a retro controller other devices too). Or something along those lines.

Edit: I reckon Nintendo just saw what Sega was doing and decided to copy it, but with less effort:

80 games built in, accepts original Genesis cartridges, comes with two wireless controllers, the physical console box looks better, comes with an AC adaptor, it's cheaper (at least on the first link I checked) . . .

@Warruz Really? Well, from an experienced Sales & Marketing professional's point of view, aka: mine it is nothing short of a perfect move, and one that'll keep the momentum of Nintendo having success moving along quite nicely.

And besides them raking in millions with Pokémon GO, I'm suspecting this to be the first in several Classic Mini's, as the naming hints at it being a label of its own, and all of them will sell like crazy.

if it had access to the Virtual Console it'd be an instant buy but I doubt nintendo would be so forward thinking.

I hope this thing does well so that Nintendo will be motivated to create a Gameboy Color Classic with 30 preloaded GBC games.

Personally, I do not need another device connected to my TV so I skip on the console. However, I will be getting one of those controllers to use with my Wii virtual console games.

I'll certainly get this as a collector's item, but I'll probably never end up playing with it as most of the NES games that I want are already on my Wii U, plus, the fact that it doesn't allow the use of wireless controllers is a bit of a deal breaker (the classic controller cords aren't exactly long).

At least the games that it comes with are a good.

Nintendo ninjas keeping that hidden, may treat myself 😎

wait what
But man, pretty decent game selection too. Although I feel like Contra would have been the better choice over Super C, but whatever.

I had this idea for years but I always imagined it as just having a hard drive and access to the eShop but only the NES games. This way having them built in is much better as long as the ones you want are on there! As someone who owns a NES, all the NES games on Animal Crossing Gamecube, a bunch of NES games on Wii and WiiU, I'm still definitely gonna buy this lmao.

I used to imagine one for each console too, a SNES HD, N64 HD etc, which is still possible and would be amazing.

A Game Boy would be an incredible one too! It would have to be a bit more expensive and better made than this...but imagine a 2016 game boy with a backlit HD screen, rechargeable battery and charger. If Pokemon was one of the games and it released this year, it would make millions off the Pokemon Go nostalgia. It could even come in OG Game Boy, Game Boy Color, and Game Boy Advance shells.

@Kirk

Of course it's a quick cash in. Nintendo has absolutely nothing else to sell this Xmas, so this really makes a lot of sense. I agree, it is rather "basic" but this will fly off the shelves regardless. It's more of a novelty item than anything else.

Say what, why now though.. Lovely selection and updates to the system are epic just what a weird time to come about !

So underwhelming. If it took NES carts, it would be an insta-buy. Because it doesn't, it's obsolete.

@MoonKnight7 Yeah, it ultimately appears to be just a throwaway novelty item, for the slightly more "enthusiastic" collector types and little more. It's not what I really wanted when I was talking about Nintendo basically re-releasing or creating "New" versions of its classic consoles, controllers, and games in modern times.

Imagine if Nintendo basically "relaunched" the NES in 2016 (and/or SNES, N64, and GC): That's the kind of thing I'm talking about:

A "New" NES console that's maybe a slightly smaller and slicker form-factor than the original model (much like the SNES Jr. or PlayStation One in their times); uses the same classic NES controllers (although it comes with wireless versions by default, which you can wire up with the bundled cable if you want, and the new wireless versions are also sold separately too); plays classic NES carts (which would likely have to be re-released too, otherwise people would be struggling to find only old copies of these games), and maybe even supports a writeable NES cart that can store hundreds of digital versions of the games at once for people who'd rather just have digital versions of all the games; and runs on both old TVs and modern TVs equally well.

Now, something like THAT would be cool to me—especially a SNES version of something like that.

Already played all of the (good) games on there, just looks like $60 for a bunch of roms. The console is kinda cute at least

Waiting for SNES.

Wait, it DOESN'T play NES cartridges? I guess I will be keeping my two NES consoles... how do you add more games to this?

@ThanosReXXX I also have a Marketing background.

You should also know the difference between a bad idea, and one that is considered short sighted. Sometimes as a company you need a short term "boom" for lack of a better term, this does not prevent it from being ALSO short sighted, they are not mutually exclusive.

You should also be aware that it is more valuable for them to get more people into their ecosystem in the long run, which this doesn't do in the slightest as it has no ability to expand past what it is. Its just a quick cash grab, which again, is not a bad thing, it just has no long term worth.

@Kirk Oh, man...
Just see it for what it is, and that is not a quick cash in, but a means of keeping the positive momentum going.

Although the negativity on NLife about this is once again completely disgusting, the overall reception on various sites and forums is very positive, so it will definitely make a lot of people happy, and doesn't cost too much to manufacture. It came out of nowhere, and it is a really nice gesture, especially at that price point. I see a SNES and N64 version coming as well, and I will be buying those as well.

I hope this isn't limited edition or anything. I'd like to get one, but may be into next year.

This is the big NX reveal! lol with lots of launch games

Is this for real?!? If so, thumbs way up!

hmm im just not sure £45 seems pretty steap for what it is just a bunch of old nes games. and it will probably equate to being more expensive once it gets to the UK ( £50 - £60 ) but looking at it another way. these are like £5 each normally? so if you put it that way it is a good deal. I guess it just depends on if your happy with paying for something you may already have.

I've got quite a few of the games on VC already, so I'll pass on getting this console. It looks good though.

If this is a joke... I'm going to be so mad!!!

I will buy a couple of these day one! And the Controller is a great idea!

And this better come to North America!!!

30 titles seem to be not enough and it might be disappointing that it doesn't play original cartridges (I won't deny that) but, anyway, I have to praise this idea. I never expected Nintendo to do something like this, they have done many dumb decisions this generation but this idea is something that Nintendo and their fans can be proud of. Something that Sega has done many times with Mega Drive, by the way. If Nintendo released a SNES I would buy it in a heartbeat. I even bought a French RGB Nintendo 64 to play Diddy Kong Racing and Goldeneye 007 legally in RGB. About NES, I never had it so I don't feel any nostalgia about it.

Nintendo, you are finally doing something right after many years of silliness and disappointments! Thumbs up! You just won a piece of my heart back. Keep it up!

@AlexOlney lol. I know right?

@ThanosReXXX Dude, I AM seeing it for exactly what it is; it's blatantly a cheap cash-in in this case. This system has been created around selling it to a bunch of the more "enthusiastic" Nintendo collectors and little else. It could have been so much more than a cheap cash-in created solely to take more money from the most loyal and hardcore of Nintendo fans; it could have been a genuine service to and modern take on a classic Nintendo console, and something that even people like me could have appreciated—like the system I described above.

Man, this is not a "nice gesture" on Nintendo's part. Wake up!

A "nice gesture" would be the kind of thing I suggested above. That would be truly servicing the fans—and might have genuinely even brought some of them back into Nintendo's fold—not just milking the most "enthusiastic" of collector types.

Edit: I dunno; I can't tell if I'm being a bit harsh on Nintendo here or perfectly fair.

It's a cool idea and something i've thought they should do forever, however it's pretty stupid that you can't play the original carts. Perhaps via USB or wifi you'll be able to add games because if you can't that's a major downfall.

@Danrenfroe2016 It's definitely coming to NA. NOA announced it on their social media pages

Best day ever!

Stunning. People been complaining about this, demanding it since Sega got in on the racket with some poor emulation or tv play devices. This thing looks like hopefully it's on a whole other level of quality sega lacked with atgames, etc. Solid spread of 1st and some good 3rd party games too. A solid win. I know it sounds bad, I own most of those carts, but I'd buy that if anything for portability sake and support to show they did the right thing finally.

There is my Christmas gift

lol so nintendo DOES release a new console for the holiday period!

Oh wow, this is a surprise! I've already got an NES, but certainly not with that many games on it... It's pretty tempting, to say the least.

I have more and better games for my nes emulator on my laptop. Now if Sega did this with a Saturn or Dreamcast I would cry tears of joy!

I don't get why everyone is excited.

You can't play any other games than the 30 ones mentioned on it.

There's no power supply in the box.

All games are available on the VC.

So why on earth is everyone going nuts about this meh news. You all sound like blind fanboys to me.

@Kirk Considering that it doesn't play NES cartridges it should include at least all main NES games so you wouldn't miss anything, specially since the NES games are so old and out-of-date.

I think it's a nice idea but it probably is half-baked.

Oh heck yeah, I am IN!

I would looooooove a SNES version next please

Cool news about the controller too, though I loved the novelty of the sideways Wiimote, that was a stroke of brilliant design but I am going to use NES controller from now.

Preorders yet?

@Yasume think of it this way:

30 classic games for $2 a piece.

I would have preferred a $10 a month subscription plan like Netflix to play every single Virtual Console game but this will suffice.

This renews my hope in Nintendo that they understand what people want.

@Yasume And you sound like a jaded jackwagon to many others. You are aware that the ATGames garbage that Sega puts out comes with no AC adapter either right? Just a USB cable. All that stuff AT Games put out also is emulated elsewhere too, just like this. And that one AT handheld for Genesis aside, all that Sega stuff is closed as well.

You're clearly NOT the target audience here. This is for the fans, but also for the casuals who want something stupid, small, and easy to use you can carry anywhere to a TV and play. Also note, it's firing off its games in HDMI too, NES doesn't do that natively. You go with a hacked/modded console over most peoples heads or piss $130 into Hyperkins pot with the Retron 5.

That's why people are excited, it's a solid, seemingly nicely built system finally from Nintendo that has some of their best games.

@Warruz Yeah, I know, I checked your site. I've been at it "slightly" longer than you, though: I'm 46 and have already worked for several of the larger IT companies out there, and my experience spans over more than 26 years in IT & Sales and almost 18 years in Sales & Marketing specifically, so you'll understand that I'd rather go by my own knowledge and experience, and I would also respectfully decline any explanation on how things work. I'd probably be able to teach you a whole lot more than vice versa...

And of course it's short lived, but like I said in previous comments, it is perfect to keep the positive momentum going, keep people busy and keep the Nintendo brand in people's minds in a positive way, which is a more than adequate way to keep people hanging around to see what else will come and might even entice them to look into the NX...

Nintendo is marketing the hell out of its new (or classic) red label and the brand itself is once again seen in a positive light, and they are doing quite a few good things to keep that going, so we as Nintendo supporters/fans should be all for that.

And I am expecting other retro mini consoles as well, so they could extend the momentum well into 2017, if they release one of these say, every 5 to 6 months. Low cost, high revenue, great idea overall. Marketing-wise, it really is a no-brainer, but people are apparently more interested in complaining about what it doesn't do and the fact that they can't put their own roms on it. Nag, nag, nag. To me, it's utterly disgusting...

You can go and mod your Wii/Wii U/DS/3DS if you want all that.

This here is just a nice little nod to the eighties and 8bit Nintendo gaming. It may not be anything super-spectacular in any way but it is nice, and it will sell like hot cakes...

@Kirk Sorry man, and with all due respect, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. I honestly don't want to go into a huge discussion about it, but it simply is my professional opinion as a Marketing major that it's not. Can't make any more of it than that.

My only question - will this up res the graphics to 4k or as well as the Analogue NT?

@VanillaLake "half-baked" is exactly what it is. It's about someone in Nintendo's HQ thinking "What's a really quick, cheap, and easy way to milk a bit more cash out of those people who think they are the hardcore Nintendo fans?". It's certainly not the kind of "New NES" I was talking about in previous articles, and one that actually could have been like a bit of a rebirth of those classic consoles, controllers, games, and indeed times.

@MoonKnight7 That's true, it's just to have something on the shelves this Christmas as no more Wii U games and 3DS games are released and people know that Nintendo is killing those systems already.

Strong feeling it may sell more than the Wii U...

Can't wait, looks awesome, it'll be the closest thing to going back to 80's without smelling all that hair gel.

@ThanosReXXX Well, you should go buy it; I wholeheartedly support you supporting Nintendo—and I'm sure Nintendo will be more than happy to take your money too. And I'm absolutely sure this "Nintendo Classic Mini: Nintendo Entertainment System" will be gathering dust in your cupboard after a week or two, at which point you'll see it for what it actually is and just go back to playing those games on VC again or whatever.

I'm one of the people that's actually been talking about and suggesting something like this happening—so this isn't some great shock or revelation to me, as I've actually been specifically asking for it—but THIS is not what I've been talking about or asking for.

And therein lies the problem.

I own 99% of the games...and yet I'm still going to buy this thing!

Blink 182 has an album, everyone is playing Pokémon, Nintendo stocks are up and we have retro gaming on the horizon. I died and went to Nintendo Heaven!

Hey look everyone! Nintendo finally revealed the NX!

@DESS-M-8
Unfortunately, no it does not...

You guys know the Mini SNES will follow next year, right?

Totally unexpected, definitely interested!

I'm still waiting for Super Mario All Stars and Yoshi's Island (the GBA version is terrible) on the VC...

It would cost $150 to buy 30 NES games on VC. So if you don't already own these and want most of them this is a great deal. Especially since it comes with the original controller and it'll work with your other VC games...

Now if they do this for the SNES I'm all in the instant it's announced! ( My SNES was stolen years ago. )

@Kirk No it won't. But of course I won't blame you for not knowing me, since we are just two anonymous people crossing paths on a gaming website.

I have a modded Wii and DSi flash card, so I don't need to have these games on VC. I never owned the actual NES, only shared it with a cousin but it stayed at his place since his father had payed for most of it: we just bought the games and for me personally, this is now a nice way of having my own little NES system, whether it's a full blown one or not. It has some good titles, and it uses perfectly re-imaged controllers, so to me that is more than good enough.

But like I said, and I'll stop here: I will kindly agree to disagree, I already made my case, and quite elaborately, if I do say so myself...

@Shiryu yeah, you go man. Pour on a little bit of the positive retro vibe here. By the way: forgot to congratulate you on winning the Euro Cup, so here: parabéns...

So this is the NX... slightly underpowered I think. Who said Nintendo is not releasing a new console for the holiday season?

@Kirk "This system is basically for a bunch of the more "enthusiastic" Nintendo collectors and little else."

I think it's for parents who grew up w/ Nitneod to buy it for their kids over the holiday - it releases in November - so that they dont' need to buy their kids an Xbox or PS4 while they wait for NX in March. Lots of kids are playing Go now, this is a way for their parents to not only tell them all about Ntnedo, but to SHOW them all about Ntineod. $60 is cheap, but just expensive enough to be a gift for a 6-8 year old. (All the games will be too hard for them to play, but whatever.) My 13 year old wants it b/c it is a really good selection of games. Any more and people would be seeing it as a junk dump, it's a hand selected 30 for the most part. Lots of teens know about these games watching Youtube Lets Plays and now they have a chance to play them for themselves.

And parents don't want cartridges, they want all-in-one systems, it's easier. These things have been selling for years, an official licensed Ntineod one was way overdue. Just like Pokemon on mobile.

This system isn't for hardcore Ntineod fans who grew up owning an NES, it's for their kids, and for teens who watch Lets' Plays of these old games. And there are probably more of them then there are hardcore Nitneod fans these days.

The game selection is good, the timing is right, the price is right. And if the target market wasn't already there - it was - all the Poekmon go hype is stirring it, and all of the NX hype will get people to buy this so they can play the classics before the new system comes out.

I hate 80% of what Ntineod has done the past few years but really can't see anything wrong with this. It's not for me, I hate nostaliga and NES graphics, but they wouldn't make any money making only what I wanted, whatever that is

@VanillaLake you might be better off tracking down the Nintendo Selects Super Mario Allstars, like I did. It's only $20

@ThanosReXXX I should really update that page, even its a bit dated (by a few years currently).

I agree, its perfect for that exact case, it just could of been so much more and been a whole other platform that grows and expands. Will I buy? Nope, but I know the perfect gift candidate for it. Like I said, the issue I see is getting those people from products like this into Nintendo's main products, and this has zero connection besides brand, not to mention I would generally consider the people who would want ONLY this don't normally overlap with current Nintendo. It's quite possible they have no intention of doing such a thing, but really, I fail to see why.

As to why people are complaining about it not running their originals or eshop purchases, its because that is this website target audience. They are already in the ecosystem, many own VC titles or the actual physical consoles and were excited at the aspect of this playing them, but it doesn't, and hence why they are upset.

and yes, it will sell a disgusting amount.

Thanks, Nintendo, for taking care of two Christmas presents!

@-DG

Exactly this. I haven't bought any of these on VC (okay, Megaman is probably the only one). Also, if you buy NES and start buying games to it online, it is awfully pricey. I checked our own "eBay" and just consoline (no controllers, no wires, nothing than a box) costs 50€ (+shipping). Console and few games around 140€. I really don't get kicks out of using cartridges, I basicly don't care. If it is in smooth package with much cheaper price than buying those on VC/original cartridges - why not. I am sure 30 games with my busy life keeps me entertained among with my other Nintys.

So yes, this is probably just for silly us fanbo..girls who used to play with the original as a kid in the 80s. But in the end of the day in MY life, it is only about how I feel and not how others feel.

throws her money at Nintendo

Wait what!???!? This looks quite awesome! Really glad to see Nintendo is getting in on the action of "retro-modern" clone consoles, especially because this should mean the quality of the machine will be much, much better than some of the other clone units. Definitely getting this for my birthday or Christmas.

Here's a thought I just had: I wonder if this thing will even show these classic NES games with proper colours and stuff? You know, unlike the Wii/Wii U VC versions of NES games, which are just dull, desaturated, and fugly imitations of the originals. I mean, if this thing isn't just a cheap cash-grab, you'd at least expect to be playing these classic NES games in basically all their original glory, at the very least in terms of getting the colours right, and not as though they're running on some crappy knock-off console. I think that's the very least we should expect here, right? But, I worry that Nintendo might not have bothered with even the basics here; something just gives me that feeling.

Now, if it released the kind of "New NES" I've talked about above, and in other articles, that kind of thing wouldn't even be in question.

I guess we will all find out in due course. . . .

Ouch, no Contra! I'll be sticking with the new AVS. Full support for all original peripherals and games, plus Famicom carts, homebrews, and online leaderboards. FTW!

Edit: Missed Super C on there the first time. Not a bad list, though, just not what I'm looking for. There are way too many hidden gems to be found on the cheap in the retro market to buy something that doesn't support carts.

This will make some people happy this holiday, though!

@Kirk

Probably just need to run the classics through na CRT tv if you still have one laying around (I have that "gaming tv" GXTV from the '90's for this). I wonder if there is a component cable connection option for that true true old style look.

@rjejr I think most of those parents you mention will likely already have a Wii or Wii U and will have had their kids playing those game on those systems already. I don't think there will be many people like that picking up this system to be honest. I think it will likely be a bunch of ignorant casuals who think it's some kind of new but cheap console and stocking filler, some of the most hardcore/loyal Nintendo fans/consumers, and all those real "enthusiastic" Nintendo collector types. And I think Nintendo knows that too.

@luigifan624 In Europe is more expensive (and Wii is region-locked). Also, I don't usually have my Wii in the living room.

lol Nintendo loves cashing in that Nostalgia.

@ThanosReXXX Thanks. Football and me don't mix, but you can bet everyone went completely insane over here... still are.

Day 1 purchase.
Nuff said...

@msvt God knows what you have to do to get the VC NES games looking decent on Wii/Wii U (with properly saturated colours and whites that actually look white), but I was and still am amazed Nintendo didn't get that sorted on its end day one—and still hasn't. But, it's modern day Nintendo, so I actually am not that amazed to be honest. I've largely come to not expect more of it.

GameBoy mini , Ninny ?

I was gonna get it until I read no cart support.

@Kirk You are right about the colours whatever people say. I can't wait to see Digital Foundry analysing these roms. I was quite disappointed by how dull and desaturated NES games look on Wii U and I hope this doesn't happen again.

Sounds good as one of my Christmas Gifts...

Inb4 'So this is the NX' jokes.

Oh...

@DiscoGentleman Yes, because it doesn't bring people into Nintendo's ecosystem. It just, is. To be clear, I am saying short sighted from a business perspective, in that this product doesn't serve as a way to get customers into other Nintendo products. If this was say linked to the eShop, and you could add more VC games if you wished to buy them, and then those were linked to your My Nintendo account, they would really have something here.

The thing will sell like hotcakes, but I doubt it will be creating return customers directly.

@Kirk
I hear ya man.... 90% incompetent to the point that after being a Nintendo guy since the NES, they have lost me before the new console comes out already due the past several years.... "I need some space" and they need some time before I feel good about investing in the home console cycle after this last time -asleep at the wheel is an understatement.

Thats a better launch line up than the PS4 and Xbox One!

@gcunit Well, Mini NES is probably better than NX...

Nope, just joking.

@Warruz Yeah, you see, the issue that I have with that is exactly that reaction of so many people: it could have been so much more. (and in my mind all that is missing after that reaction is a "heartfelt" boohoo, woe is me... )

I always go by glass half full, and thinking in solutions instead of problems or throwing all kinds of bears on the road. Look at what you DO get and don't complain about what it's not. It's their move, so THEY decide and they have probably thought it over quite a bit before taking this step. Might even be Kimishima's first idea since he can't interfere with the NX since that is still pretty much Iwata's legacy and final product.

This simply isn't anything more than a nice little surprise that just landed in our laps out of the blue, and it's quite decently priced too, if you take the manufacturing cost into consideration and the included controller, than games are roughly a $1 a piece, so why all the long faces is beyond me.

Don't like it? Don't buy it, simple.

@Kirk I'll definitely agree on that (the VC Nintendo games). The team that does the Sega M2 titles should probably go and teach Nintendo how it's done.

@Warruz Yep, it's a bit like Wii Mini in that sense.

Wow... please tell me this will come out in Europe! ^_^ That NES classic control is an instant purchase for me, the NES mini looks really nifty but will have to see how the games perform on it. :3

I like the idea you can use classic controller or even buy only the nes controller and use it in your wii/wii U games. A lot of this games I already have so I could go only for the controller. Maybe could be a good idea to use your ID and miiverse in this nintendo mini but I´m sure this won´t happen so I keep my wii U nes games with miiverse compatibility.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
Totally buying this!

@ThanosReXXX I am not sure because right now I have Wii in the closet and Wii U in the living room, but I would swear that NES games look much worse on Wii U than on Wii, but probably they look as bad and I just can't compare.

I still have an NES, and I have most of these games for VC, but I am VERY interested in the controller for playing VC games. I am also interested in the HDMI out. Oh, who am I kidding. I'll probably get one because I'm a sucker for this kind of stuff.

I tell you, with Pokémon GO and now this, they've got a lot of hype for the NX announcement.

@msvt Yeah, I hear you too. I can't even afford any new consoles these days, but even if I could, no new Nintendo console is a "must buy" for me anymore, and certainly not before it's well and truly proven itself in the market. That wasn't always the case; I went out in the wee hours of the morning to get an N64 on launch day.

@earthboundlink If they released a new SNES or Nintendo 64 it should read cartridges so we can play all those titles that can't be re-published due to licensing issues.

@VanillaLake Well, @Kirk is right: the official VC versions just look off. Softmod emulation may not run them better than the "real" thing, but even those look better. And the Sega conversions on 3DS are just a brilliant example of how it should be done.

@earthboundlink Well, I'll tell you this: At least Nintendo is generating a lot of hype and press coverage of late; what with the E3 critical acclaim of Breath of the Wild, the storming launch success of Pokemon Go, and now this surprise hardware release. So, at least that's something that's good for Nintendo in terms of getting it's brand out there.

Doesn't even play original carts though honestly not super impressed would buy if £20 to maybe £30 just for novelty.

@Kirk I skipped school to buy a Nintendo 64! I can't even believe it as it was the only time I did that and I don't know how could I escape school!

But today, I'm not excited about NX at all, even though I still like games and I have Wii U, New 3DS, Xbox One and PS4.

They're finally doing it. They can finally grab the market that Sega, Atari, and other dead console makers still had left.
Nice list of games, but it's too expensive for my taste. It's nice that they went for max compatibility with the jillions of Wii accessories floating around people's homes, but this raises some suspicion.
Considering how badly Wii sales dropped off in the final years, I expect that Nintendo still has a ridiculously high stock of Wiis, maybe Wii Minis, left in their warehouses. I wouldn't be surprised if they're taking those, removing all the unnecessary hardware like the DVD reader, wifi, and SD/USB readers and repurposing the mainboards for plug and play machines like this.
And if not for this, then I'm sure they would do that for the eventual mini N64 and mini Gamecube, as using unsold hardware should be easier than trying to figure out how to emulate their systems again.

Anyway, someone needs to send one of these to Mark at Classic Game Room

@ThanosReXXX This I can agree with wholeheartedly.

@VanillaLake Yeah, I'm more worried about NX than excited about NX. That says it all really.

@ThanosReXXX Sega and M2 did an excellent job as opposed to Nintendo.

@BensonUii
Because the list is limited to 30 games, so you can't add a game without removing another.

I am sold!

@cbkummer good to hear!

This is a system that could sell 100 million easy lol

I was gonna buy it... and then it says it can't play my NES carts.

So close Nintendo, so close.

But it is a cool idea.

@Kirk Me too, I have a bad feeling about NX after hearing what Miyamoto, Reggie and Ubisoft have said about it. My hype about NX is zero.

@Warruz They would lose money on producing it if they did that. Nintendo fans aren't necessarily the target audience; Nintendo is trying to recapture the crowd that drifted away years ago. That crowd won't care enough about this if they have to buy modern Nintendo games and products.

Pokémon Go is marketed the same way.

PS. I'm calling it now that this ultimately won't really sell any more units that the likes of the Wii mini—I'd guess a few hundred thousand to maybe a couple mil units. If it were the kind of system it could have been, and I'd argue should have been, it certainly could have sold a whole lot of units. But, from what I'm seeing, this is just a throwaway novelty stocking filler as is. I don't think anyone that wasn't interested the likes of the Wii mini will be anymore interested in this. But, it will certainly make Nintendo a few quick and easy bucks, and I think that's all Nintendo really counting on.

I suspect there is a large user base out there that would love to play classic Nintendo games, but don't have access to a VC. This provides them with access via a cheaper piece of hardware.

It probably isn't aimed for the likes of us as Nintendo fans, we already have that access. The fact we can buy the controller for the current VC is a great idea.

Now let's hope we see SNES AND N64 equivalents, maybe even GC!!

Wow...This is a surprise for me,day 1 buy for me!!!!

@Billsama "rest of us" ? .. sure, lets see how this will sell for 60$. I guess you would also buy for 150$. Its more for collectors and in that regard Nintendo should raise the price to 300$ ... still the same "rest of us" would buy it. The "other rest" will pass.

Production costs should be around 1.50$.

Can't put my old cartridges in it (or even download games to it), not interested. I'll stick to my original NES and my top loader.

@ThanosReXXX good
I hope so
still debating since I own a good deal of these on either my 3ds or wii u

Also makes me wonder how come we havent gotten the WiiU VC releases of Final Fantasy

I might have to pick one up. Just for a mini version of the NES.

@ironside1911 I have seen Mega Drive controllers with the games built in (great idea). The problem I see with Mini NES is that it doesn't play NES cartridges and it's not a cheap controller with the games built in, it's somewhere in between...

If it included all main NES games it would be alright though, but only 30...

To all the people whining about "cash-in" aspect, not being able to play original cartridges, not seeing the point...

1) they sold 60 millions NES. There are 7 billions people on Earth. Guess what... not everyone owns a NES. That's at least one good reason to create such a thing. Of course, you need to be relatively good at math to come with such a complex observation, I can't blame you.

2) it's a mini-console with pre-loaded games: not being able to play the original games is the whole point! No cartridge slot, no internet connection, no online service. Also, the console seems barely as big as the carts themselves!

3) someone suggested it should be 29$. Yes, sure. No wait, I think it should actually be 19$. And if you purchase one, you get a free NX. And a 50$ eShop card. Jesus...

Sweet Bionis! People, use your head!

Pre Orders...We want Pre Orders !

I want one better save up now.

Damn, Nintendo seems to be on a roll these days, always in the news about something (positive). Though I wonder, why not announce this at E3?

You know, this is a cool thing, it really is. The sad part of all this is that this is the major Nintendo release for the winter season. There is no huge game coming out for Wii U this winter; 3DS gets Pokemon but current gen home console owners are left wanting. Again, cool retro thought here, but still a sad reminder that the Wii U is dead.

@nab1 Imagine that Nintendo announced New NES while Microsoft was announcing Xbox One S with Dynamic Range and 4K BD player...

Also, even though I played the hell of it back in the day, I never actually owned a NES. This is a good time to finally own a new version of it that has pretty much all the games I would want to play. It also makes for a nice gift this christmas.

@VanillaLake Very good point

That's a nice game list! Good variety (a little sad Paper Boy didn't make the list though). Hubby already has said that he's tempted. I'm excited!

Wow! From the unveiling of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild last month to the launch of Pokémon GO this month, and now the announcement of a "new" NES console to be released in November, Nintendo are suddenly firing on all cylinders again!

Yaaay for Ninty!

Would prefer an SNES or N64, but this is still pretty awesome. Might pick one up depending on the final price.

@AVahne Could it be the Wii Mini motherboard with the VC versions of the games in a NES disguise? That would be shabby!

It was about time they came up with something like this. Hardware failures will only become more and more common with time, these consoles are simply too old. And finding the original games isn't easy. Not even talking about the much needed addition of HDMI output. Most TV manufacturers have been getting way too lazy and cheap in the last few years.

I just wonder why we ended up with FF1 and not the others. Why Megaman 2 specifically? Why no Fire Emblem?

I was hoping for something like this for years. I can't wait for a SNES or N64 version, preferably with more games, and maybe even a public vote for the games to be included.

Oh... and a Gameboy version, with a proper LCD

What if this product, and if they do snes n64 etc, spells the end of the VC on the NX?

Would make sense to me tbh. But would need more games or ways to get them on the system.

I'll get one to be sealed forever lol

I need it right now!!! I wish Faxanadu, Crystalis and Blaster Master was on this, but that is okay. I'm surprised Castlevania III isn't on here. Still I must have it!

This is the coolest thing ever. I'm definitely getting one of these. High five ✋

We could get a SNES version if this is a success.

@Kroko This isn't going to replace anything. It only comes with 30 preloaded games - all of which I believe are on VC anyway. So they already have a suitable and legal system in place for playing their backlog of games.

@GeminiSaint Luckily omitted because Castlevania 3 uses a more complex chip (Nintendo MMC5) than the other games.

I'll be getting one. Not only is it adorable but like others have said there's always the possibility of a SNES version if this one is a success.

And even if it isn't, I have other means of playing SNES games today.

Nintendo? Doing something smart with older games that aren't overpriced? Has hell frozen over?

@RoomB31

Well it's not that new of an idea. I mean think about the plug n plays. Sega did them, there was an arcade plug n play, I've even seen a Coleco one, (my boyfriend had to explain to me what a coleco was =^^=)

And those bootleg consoles that play preprogrammed vintage games, are shoddily constructed and let off a poisonous burning smell.

This is like Nintendo's plug n play.

While I was initially excited over this, the full article revealed some details that made me cringe.

First, its basically pocket-sized, meaning you can't use the original NES cartridges. Second, the controller inputs are different, rendering the '80s ones obsolete (watch somebody invent an adapter for them). Third, there's no way of adding more games via a flash drive or SD card...so if you don't like any of the pre-installed games, tough luck.

Doing the math on all of this, it really stinks up Nintendo's reputation, regarding their previous successes. Why not just offer a reasonably-priced HDMI upgrade, for people willing to ship their full-size NES systems?

@ironside1911 everything thats not free would be too much. Counting that there are 30 games which equals $172 vs $60? Yeah....ill beg differ.

I can't quite decide if this is basically pointless or if it has some merit.

It's basically just a 30-in-1 type of deal, right?

So, other than a bunch of really "enthusiastic" collector types, and maybe some parents who see this as a cheap Christmas stocking filler, who's this really for?

I guess my issue with it is that if Nintendo was going to bring back the NES—which I actually wanted for all intents and purposes (SNES, N64, and even GC too)—I personally think it would only make sense if it went all in and released a proper "New" NES. Otherwise, it basically shouldn't have bothered imo.

Because, if it's not going all-in, it has little value in a world where the likes of Wii/Wii U and the VC already exist, or where people can easily just download 30 of the most popular NES games on their PC right now and play them with little hassle. Christ, some website even let you play NES games directly online (in your browser, for free):

http://www.nesconsole.com/

So this, without going all-in, I just don't see it as being anything more than additional noise.

An actual "New" NES console (and SNES, N64, and even GC too), however, I could see having genuine value, even in the current market.

I'm interested in those controllers and I like that there are games on it that weren't released in EU originally, like Final Fantasy, and 3rd Party hits like Pac-Man, Mega Man 2, Castlevania, and Double Dragon 2..

@Clownshoes If you experience latency I'm sure your tv/hdmi is the overpriced junkbox, not the Wii U.

@GeminiSaint

Don't see why we can't have the trilogy on there. I love Simon's Quest.

Does this includes an AV cable? Or can we use one?

Wow! This is so cool! They should do this with the SNES as well, for sure.

I hope Nintendo keeps up these surprises!

That's a very nice list of games, don't own half of the games in that list and I've been wanting to play Zelda 2 and Mega Man 2 again on the big screen since I absolutely despised trying to play them on 3DS. The Classic Controller support is a nice little option and it'll be cool using the NES Controller for both this and my other VC games as I never owned a NES before.

Even if this NES is just a one-time thing and it doesn't get more games in the future, it's a pretty nice deal if you don't own most of the games in the list.

Awesome! I'm so excited for this!

@Gridatttack HDMI

@Kroko Not sure about Final Fantasy and Megaman (Probably some 3rd party agreements), but Fire Emblem was only released in Japan.

@DBPirate Would also love t see a SNES version of this!

@A01 s
Screw that, I'll take untangling controls any day. I'm tired of buying batteries.

Do you know when you might be able to pre order it in stores?

Well, there are well over 10 games on that list that I don't have on Wii U VC, so I'll probably set aside some money for this. The selection does have some... questionable decisions thrown in there (Simon's Quest, but no Dracula's Curse? Come on!), but maybe someone will figure out what makes these things tick and see if the ROM's inside can be switched out. If not, then at least my favorite game of all time is on that list, and I'll be able to play it with an NES controller once again.

Most definitely up for getting one of these .

@GH05T I know, but does this NES has an AV output?

I have a CRT on the living room that would make fine use of this.

Ooooh! I can't wait to hold it in my hand! I'll walk around and tell everyone that I'm a giant!

I'm amazed! Great move, Nintendo!

I guess you could transfer NES Virtual Console games from Wii U / NX USB interface into this.

@Kirk I think we can agree that Nintendo does not approve unofficial emulation. Plus it is illegal. So releasing an official console even as an alternative, makes sense. I've used emulators before, even in my 3DS and I must say the quality difference between a no official emulated game and one from the virtual console is pretty significant. So for quality only, this is worth. Add to that the nostalgia factor and collectors appeal and you have a seller idea.

@Kirk I'm split as to what I want Ninty to do with the NX VC. While I don't want to have to wait for them to slowly rebuild the library again, the NES games look so poor that I would be willing to wait for the emulation to be redone. SNES games aren't perfect, but they are much better.

What's the point? Most of these games are available on 3DS and Wii U virtual console, plus the unit doesn't read actual NES cartridges.

The thing is the size of a nes cartridge. Where would you put the cartridge port (and the technology required to make it work) and still make it look good.

@StuOhQ I think I'd want them to basically launch with an NX VC library day one that already contains every single game currently available on Wii VC, Wii U VC, and 3DS VC, all as is, but then to also start adding updated and tweaked versions of all the games going forward. And you could basically pay a small fee to upgrade to the latest version if you already own a previous VC version of the game, or just buy the game outright as the new version if you don't own a previous version. Also, any games you already have in your collection on Wii/WiiU/3DS should work across any other consoles that support VC titles too, both home console and handheld, wherever possible; and that should be automatically available to you without having to purchase seperate versions of the game for each of the systems. Something along those lines.

@Billsama I can wholeheartedly agree that Nintendo doesn't like emulation.

For quality though, not so much. Because, the emulated versions of NES games on PC both look and run much better than their equivalent on Nintendo's own Virtual Console. And that's just shocking, that Nintendo can't even make its own games run as well as some PC emulator.

I genuinely worry that this new NES will suffer the same problem.

...meh..cash grab...how are kids gonna know how to blow in a cart to make a real NES work?..lol...should have come with a mini wireless zapper and all the light gun games (harder to emulate that fun)...nice novelty gift I guess..

@Kroko

"To all the people whining about "cash-in" aspect, not being able to play original cartridges, not seeing the point...
1) they sold 60 millions NES. There are 7 billions people on Earth. Guess what... not everyone owns a NES. That's at least one good reason to create such a thing. Of course, you need to be relatively good at math to come with such a complex observation, I can't blame you."

So, following your complex observation, guess what? Still doesnt change anything cause people wont buy it at this price. You also assume that 7 billion people are all braindead? Imagine a mother in a store wanting to buy her kids something to play .. you think she will shell out 70$ (including an extra controller) for some 8-bit games? The kids would be crying .. this is for collectors and for that, the logical business approach would be to even raise the price more cause for the ones who buy it, it wont matter. For 29.95 and 2 controllers, you might convince the grandma to pick it up .. for 70, no way, even the guy at Toys R us would most likely recommend her to pick up a Wii Mini instead... lets see in few month whos right about sales.

"2) it's mini-console with pre-loaded games: not being able to play the original games is the whole point! No cartridge slot, no internet connection, no online service. Also, the console seems barely as big as the carts themselves!"

The whole point .. ok, so why for that price? You just listed all thats wrong with it ...so yes, 70$, 2 controllers and a 50$ eshop card would do the trick.

Else as usual, in few months its silence and they sold some small amount for collectors.. let wait and see

@A01 ...because the ORIGINAL controllers weren't wireless?...

I need someone else to mouth my reaction...

I saw the GameXplain thumbnail and RUSHED here. So it's not a joke or whatever! And yeah, your lip-reading is not fooling you - those are literally the three words I said upon seeing said thumbnail.

@AlexOlney Its a nice start, but Sega is still the king of retro throwback consoles.

The Sega Genesis Classic Game Console comes not only with built-in games, but the ability to play any Genesis or Megadrive cart(barring a few games like Virtua Racing that used special hardware)

Not to mention, they have a really awesome Genesis portable that can be expanded with the SD Card Slot.

About the only negative things about the Genesis throwback systems is that they lack the ability to save games, and the sound emulation is off.

But good first effort from Nintendo. I like this NES classic console. I just think it will take more to topple Sega's efforts.

Not sure if anyone touched on this, does it have saving capabilities? Games like Final Fantasy, and Zelda don't really have much use if you can't stop and resume gameplay

@Kirk Fair enough. I wasn't talking about emulation on PC, though. Only non official emulation vs virtual console releases both running on a 3DS. Nevertheless, I see your point.

This is interesting! I now have something to think about as an X-mas gift.

P.S. Inb4 Shut up and take my money

Probably not for me. (I own these games on NES and Famicom) But it'll be interesting to see if there will be a way to buy/download in new games in the future.

For instance, if this does well, would Nintendo consider releasing a "VC box" tailored to people who just want an official, legal retro device? I might grab that.

@JoJo90 None of the VC have Contra even though they have Super C and Contra III.

Konami is strange when it comes to their virtual console lineup.

The Wii U VC has Adventure Island and New Adventure Island, but lacks the NES sequels to the first game or the SNES games.

On the flip side, the 3DS VC got Adventure Island II, but lacks I and III even though they are on the same system.

Honestly, Konami's treatment of their retro games makes no sense.

I imagine this is what they're offering for the Black Friday/Xmas period as they're probably deep into NX game development to even release a quickie Wii U game like Mario Tennis last year while Pokemon has the 3DS covered, so I imagine there'll be plenty at launch but the closer we get to Xmas.... :lol:

Certainly is interesting. The no slot for carts is a bummer but interested to see 3rd party games as part of the 30 included games (Even Final Fantasy and Bubble Booble, 2 games the Wii U VC do not have yet.). You cannot use your old NES controllers either but on the flip side it have the same ports for Wiimote controllers such as the Classic Controller, so you can actually use the included NES controller on Wii and Wii U for VC games (And I suppose whatever Wii/Wii U titles with limited button controls and no motion gimmicks. :lol: ). Hoping its not a sign of Nintendo abandoning the Virtual Console for the NX and for these official clones instead (Though an N64 one would be lovely.) but considering the price of the system and games, it could usher in cheaper VC prices for the NX at least.

And considering this connects through HDMI, I just hope the emulation is near spot on. If Nintendo of Europe offers us 50Hz PAL versions, then they'll murder this product for collectors for sure (But thankfully you can always import the US version no problem thanks to being powered by USB.).

@Gobelee My guess would be yes. Although, one of the Genesis throwback systems included Mega Man: The Wily Wars and that lacked a save feature, even though the game requires you to save not only to beat MM 1-3 on the collection, but to play the Wily Tower.

So, who knows.

But given its Nintendo, I would not be shocked if they included save features. In fact, we might even get save states.

Now this is awesome! I'm getting one. I just wish somebody would do a TG16 classic system with 30 games on it.

@Moviefan2k4 To be honest, most of your concerns are a bit moot:

"the controller inputs are different, rendering the '80s ones obsolete"
They supply a controller with it, and you can buy a second one separately but besides the connectors, these are EXACTLY the same controllers as the original ones.

"there's no way of adding more games via a flash drive or SD card...so if you don't like any of the pre-installed games, tough luck."
Of course they aren't going to allow you to add roms, are you kidding me? It's an official product from Nintendo, not one of those knock-off or licensed AtGames consoles. And if you don't like any of the pre-installed games, well: simply don't buy it.

"Doing the math on all of this, it really stinks up Nintendo;s reputation, regarding their previous successes."
Actually no, it doesn't, unless your math is seriously skewed. This makes sure that the brand name Nintendo remains top of mind with a LOT of people, so it keeps the momentum going, same as Pokémon GO and probably same as the Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem app are going to do. All these positive waves together will make the wait for NX seem shorter and will keep the brand's improved image going until and probably past the release of the NX.

However short-lived this may be, if they can follow it up with yet another success, no matter if that's an app, a device or something else, then stocks will rise, people will be happy and the brand Nintendo will become that much stronger for it.

"Why not just offer a reasonably-priced HDMI upgrade, for people willing to ship their full-size NES systems?"
That's the only point that I can agree with, but there are already plenty of HDMI upgrades for the NES, so if that's what you're looking for, then it's already available.

@Caryslan The thing is that Sega themselves aren't "ahead" or "king" in this department at all. They are licensed consoles, of FAR lesser quality than the original hardware and they are NOT made by Sega themselves, unlike the NES mini. And that is probably also why the sound is off and there are quite a few other drawbacks of these licensed retro reboot consoles.

And the Sega portables are from AtGames and these are actually quite bad. You'd be better off emulating on a 3DS or buying a GPD XD, which has MUCH better emulation.

I dunno: Maybe if it had as many of the NES games built/bundled in as humanly possible by default (seeing as it looks like you can't add any more after the fact), and the little mini NES box wasn't such a half-baked design (it REALLY doesn't have to look like an actual NES, with a fake cartridge slot and all; that's just cheap and tacky) . . .

And, are the controllers genuinely still fixed-wired, or can you at least choose to disconnect the wire and use them wirelessly if you want?

I'm know I'm being harsh on it, but only because it feels like a product that's half way there again, as seems to be the case with almost everything Nintendo does these days.

Edit: I mean, it seems like even this has a lot more effort put into it:

Something like that ^^^ as the New NES, I think I would have been basically happy with: 80 built-in games, takes Genesis cartridges, two wireless controllers in the box, a generally slick looking box, and under $50.

Actually, you know what: No, I'm not being harsh on Nintendo at all!

Here's hoping Nintendo at least matches Sega's effort above if it decides to release a New SNES console.

the trick here is if you already have the games, you buy controllers for your wii/u and get the NES as a gift for someone

@Anti-Matter This is my NEXt.

@Kirk I'm betting that in the end, someone probably will be able to hack it and then all the "I can't change or add any roms" people will all be happy campers at last...

I already have all these games on the VC, so I probably won't get one. But you can't deny that this is an insane deal. That's 30 games (the majority of which are 8 to 10/10 games) and nostalgic hardware for the price of 1 modern title. Nintendo will easily sell tens of millions of these.

@Yorumi This is MUCH cheaper and most people will probably never play more than 30 different titles anyway...

@RainbowGazelle For people who want to play these games and don't own a Wii U or 3DS? Like the millions of people playing Pokemon GO who haven't bought a Pokemon game in years?

@ThanosReXXX For me, it doesn't count if you have to step into hacker territory. Clearly, the whole point of something like this is to take people back to simpler times: Plug in and play.

Lame. It's missing some major games.

Battletoads
Megaman 1,3,4,5,6
Demon sword
Blaster master
Little Nemo the dream master
Teenage mutant ninja turtles 1,2,3
Captain planet
Gauntlet 2
Tiny toon adventures
Vice project doom
Widget
WWF westlemania challenge
Xenophobe

Plus it can't play the original cartridges.

Great idea.

$60 is a steal! I will be buying it, it will be a nice portable gaming device to take on vacation to play in the hotel room.

I honestly don't get all the people poo pooing this.

I think Nintendo could find a cure for cancer, and people would give them grief about it.

This should come with digital editions of the Nintendo Powers that covered these games.

Wow. Some real news here, that makes for a change.

I'm really excited by this. Do I need it? No. I've got original hardware and the Virtual Console on modern hardware. I even have the majority of these games! Why do I like it? Its simplicity, its ability to output to HDMI, its size and style, the amazing controllers that also work with my Wii and Wii U.... Seriously, I'll be picking this up and the controllers.

The novelty and the ability to take this to gatherings and special events makes me think this is going to get some pretty decent usage. Excellent list of games, too! And all of this for less than a new Wii U game.

@Bryon15 Yeah, like I said above: At least it could/should have matched this similar effort by Sega:

Almost three times as many games built in, accepts original Genesis cartridges, comes with two wireless controllers, the physical box looks better, it's cheaper (at least on the first link I checked) . . .

@ThanosReXXX Can you stop with the passive aggressive emoticons? I agree with 80% of your points, but man.

Shut up and take my money !!

@Kirk I like the NES Classic Edition Box better since it's a throwback to the boxes of the NES back in the day.

Also, this thing doesn't actually play the original cartridges, so there's really no good reason to have two different models for US and Europe at this point in time, that I can think of. Seems like a bit of a waste on Nintendo's part.

@the-madprofessor THEN THEY'RE NOT TRUE FANS!!! ...No really, you make a good point.

@Kirk - you mean more like the AVS that retroUSB is brining out this summer? New form factor, four player out of the box, HDMI, accepts all NES carts and flash carts.

This is not that and I'm ok with it since I'm getting that anyway. This will be great for my kids.

@Caryslan I could accept that in terms of the general NES styling, if that's what one prefers, but not with the fake cartridge slot; that's just tacky junk imo. It's the kind of stuff Nintendo's being doing with 3DS skins on its retro consoles and stuff too; it's simply bad design. Sega had the better idea here, where it's stylised to look and feel like its part of the Genesis line, but it's not literally a miniature Genesis, like some kind of cheap keyring attachment or something.

Whoah that NX looks RADICAL!!! I can't wait for the Super NX now.

@jmbarnes101 Basically. But, even if you do just want the really simple 30-in-1 type box, I still think Sega is showing up Nintendo's effort as a bit half-baked:

Almost three times as many games built in, accepts original Genesis cartridges, comes with two wireless controllers, the physical console box looks better, it's cheaper (at least on the first link I checked) . . .

Nintendo can and should do better that what it's ultimately given us here; I guess that's likely why it just felt a bit "off" to me from the first moment I saw it

Nintendo have finally decided that they can be a bit more relaxed about the distribution of their 30 year old games. But of course, gotta be cautious- give em 30 games. Just in case.

In ten years time we will have ourselves a SNES version!

Typical Nintendo- glacial rate of movement.

@Bryon15 securing the licensed rights for those games would take this out of most people's price range. As it sits it's a fairly cheap prospect and a good Christmas/holiday gift. It's not perfect but it'll sell at the price point it's at now.

neato

Interesting. Kind of like the stuff Sega's been putting out for years. I could definitely see myself getting something like this as a gift for someone who used to be a Nintendo gamer but wouldn't dream of getting a Wii U for the virtual console. Though with this and Pokémon Go there seems to be something of an effort to move their content away from their actual consoles...?

@Kirk I think you are asking too much of them at this time. This is really the first time Nintendo has done something like this. Also its kinda silly you are fussing over a fake cart slot. This is mainly intended as a more easier affordable way to experience the NES. For 60 dollars you get 30 games and many of them are pretty much some of the best the NES has to offer. If they included many of the features you mentioned that would likely jack up the price more. Also what's wrong with the box I think its neat to pay homage to the original NES packaging.

Why do you always have to be so dang pessimisitic

@Wolfgabe You know, I was even starting to think that myself—that I'm maybe being a bit harsh on Nintendo, and it's just doing its best—until I found this:

80 games built in, accepts original Genesis cartridges, comes with two wireless controllers, the physical console box looks better, it's cheaper (at least on the first link I checked) . . .

Nah, Nintendo's half-baking it.

The original NINTENDO is back! I am getting updates for it here
http://liovinci.com/i/nintendo-entertainment-system - Cant wait to get it in November and hear new things about it!

Ad far as cash grabs go, this isn't bad

Well, they already screwed up what it will be able to offer out of the box, but who knows, maybe some friendly modders will break into this thing and vastly improve it... I'm tempted to try that myself, actually. This could turn out to be Nintendo's version of the Raspberry Pi.

And hey, at least it won't ever ask you in any way whatsoever for aggregated personally identifying information or parts of your social security number like TPC and Niantic.

@Kirk
Sorry to butt in, but Sega didn't make that console someone bought the license and the "Wireless controller" is an infrared controller. Yes infrared = Bad.

The box art is subjective. Personally I like Nintendo's effort.

Will the NES games be in their original format or enhanced in HD with a 16:9 aspect ratio? As the article mentions plugging into your HD TV. If the game's are just 4:3 with the same dull colors as on Virtual Console, I think I'll pass, but if they've been remastered to a degree, I may have to pick this up.

@Kirk That's not actually an official product.

@A01 Controllers aren't wireless because they use the same tech as the Classic Controllers, meaning you can use these NES controllers to play NES VC games on Wii and Wii U.

Um. I'm stunned, but my NES still works.

@Kirk You are pretty much just regurgitating what you said earlier and as I said if they included all those features that would likely jack up the price beyond most consumers acceptable range.

Also as several pointed out that isn't actually an official product from Sega and the controllers are infared and are not very good

Also I looked it up myself and some of the info is misleading. According to some you only get 40 actual Genesis games the rest are self published homebrew games like the kind you would find on one of those bootleg consoles. Also from what I hear the sound and emulation quality is kinda iffy. The system was from AtGames one of those Chinese companies. In fact they have made several mock systems just like this one but under different names Just goes to show you shouldn't always believe what it says on the box.

https://www.amazon.com/AtGames-Genesis-Classic-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B0094H8H7I here is where I got my info

@Kirk That's not by Sega but licensed and are you really comparing a 16bit with an 8bit system? And retro gaming and wireless controllers? Uh-uh, my friend, that's a definite no-no.

@RaccoonNinja28 Passive aggressive emoticons? No idea how you came by that idea, they are all meant as a bit of tongue in cheek, not to insult or flame or whatever.

kind of disapointing. It has a lot of great games, but my genesis classic has 80 games included, and could load classic carts. sure the controllers it came with sucked, but you can plug in real genesis controllers.

Don't own most of the games on it and having an NES Classic Controller would be nice so I'm definitely getting it.
I suppose it is a bit disappointing cartridges can't be used, but you would need them in the first place since they aren't sold anymore and the mini NES would have to be larger (probably at least close to the normal size)

@DiscoGentleman mentioned this to me, but it would be pretty neat if you could access the eShop and download more NES games onto it.
That would probably increase the price at least a bit more though and I assume Nintendo wants to keep it pretty cheap.

Christ, people, this isn't meant for hardcore Nintendo fans who still have 30 year old NES cartridges in their original packaging. How thick are you? 99% of people in the world do not own NES cartridges. And 99% of the games that aren't included in this bundle are by 3rd party developers and that's a lot of contract negotiations for what this is: A cheap, novelty toy for everyone who wishes they had a little NES in their lives. Nothing fancy, no internet, just 30 of the best games for NES, in a little box that looks like a tiny NES. For Wal-Mart shoppers. NOT for YOU, Mr. I Already Own All These Games On Virtual Console And Still Have A Working NES At Home.

@Embassy Well, most of them are good or great, but other than Super Mario Bros. 3, Legend of Zelda 1, Mega Man 2, and Bubble Bobble, I definitely wouldn't go so far as to say they're all the "best". Unmodded Simon's Quest? Tecmo Bowl instead of Tecmo Super Bowl? Nothing a few screwdrivers, USB cables, some hardware mods, and a copy of Guardian Legend, Crystalis, and Dragon Quest 3 & 4 can't fix, though.

@ThanosReXXX I'm saying that given what the officially licensed Sega version is offering for a similar price (cheaper even), Nintendo could have put a little more effort into its own offering: More games packed in, controllers that could be used either wired or wireless, a slightly less cheap/tacky looking console box, and possibly even the ability to use old NES carts too.

@XCWarrior

If you have original NES, why would you want it? I have SNES so if there was SNES version, I wouldn't buy it because I have original. I rather buy that with € of normal WiiU game than play with gamepad/emulator.

Adding cartridge possibility would push the price up. And all you would be here whining, why Ninty releases a copy for 30-yr-old console.

Yes. It is perfect for holidays, price of one Wii U game. 1/3 of the price that those games cost on VC. Also the people who don't have access to VC.

@Yorumi

You do know real NES with few games costs 150€. At least here it does, just kept checking the prices. And games costs more than 2€.

But good thing is - none of you are forced to buy it.

@Wolfgabe It's cheaper than Nintendo's less feature complete offering:

https://www.amazon.com/Sega-Genesis-AtGames-Classic-Game-Console/dp/B0111WVVLM/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1468515878&sr=1-1&keywords=Sega+Genesis+AtGames+Classic+Game+Console+2015

And, regardless of some issues, which I expect we'll see on Nintendo's offering too once the reviews come out (such as how the colours look on these NES games for example), Sega's offering is still better bang for your buck.

It'seems so cute and the controller is awesome. It also has a decent selection of games. The price is reasonable. Count me in. I just hope Nintendo manufactures this in large quantities so people don't have to get ripped off on eBay.

Well that's weird, but kind of cool and the selection of games is solid too. It's missing the best NES game (Castlevania III) though.

@Finntendo Cause it has HMDI outputs. I have one non-HD TV in the basement solely for my older consoles. This would alleviate that huge hunk of TV from needing to be in the house.

@Embassy

" A cheap, novelty toy for everyone who wishes they had a little NES in their lives. Nothing fancy, no internet, just 30 of the best games for NES, in a little box that looks like a tiny NES."

Its neither cheap nor has any "novelty" but you are correct to say its not fancy... and 30 BEST GAMES ? (come on ..there are lots missing). How can anyone seriously say its cheap? What is this based on? You virtually pay 58.50$ for the Nintendo Logo on it. Just because Nintendo sets prices for stuff doesnt mean it reflects the value.
A raspberry Pi is cheap, 1gig of ram and runs all.

Its a lazy made-in-china 1.50$ plastic box with a chip - effort to milk some hardcore collectors...thats all. Nintendo is not risking anything with this and creates a bit of publicity for few weeks ...

If that has any sort of mass appeal, then I suggest to re-release the gameboy with tetris running on a chip for 99$ (perhaps with a 2% discount when using 2000 platinum points)

@Zanark not really considering a lot of these games you can find in the bargan bin under 5$

Loving it - provided they do it right with high quality hardware instead of those horrible cheap Sega dollar-store knockoffs. Impressed by the excellent selection of games without any shelf-fillers or duds. It won't take long before someone figures out a way to add more games. Plus it looks darn cute - i know people who'd pay good money for an empty shell like that for their Raspberry Pi projects!

What's really disappointing is you can't play/add other games there's so many more games that are way better than on this list...if I didn't own 2 NES's and pretty much all these games and more I would consider buying it, but it's just irritating that you can't play other games. I mean even if they announced that at a future date they are adding a feature to get more games or releasing like mini carts would be 10000x better than limiting the consumer to these specific 30 games....

@ironside1911 60 bucks for 30 good NES games is very cheap. Unless you resort to "free" illegal ROMS but that's not a fair comparison.

@Mk_II Its not cheap. Your logic is based on Nintendos overpriced policies. Following that, if tomorrow they set every VC game to 19.95$ and then sell the same box for 199$, its cheap?

Its time to go with the times and not to endlessly milk the same stuff over and over again ..also its very restricted, cause they dont want to give anything away. There is zero value in it. As others pointed out, if it would come including some enhancements for the games, online play, sd storage, eshop connectivity (like playing the ALREADY BOUGHT 8-bit titles on it) or whatever, thats different.

Perhaps its cheap for "collectors" , yes, thats why I say, raise the price even more, it doesnt matter.

Sega as a franchise isn't as valuable as Nintendo, so the Big N can afford to do this with more restraint. Let's not forget that most Sega games, Sonic included, are trashy, shallow and generally disposable.

Nintendo are notorious for fiercely guarding their properties. The reason that this came as such a shock to so many, myself included, is because this is a fairly risky, relaxed attitude to te use of their IP's. I think that we will see a few of these kind of announcements from Nintendo, basking in the limelight provided from Pokemon Go's success.

Good idea. Nice to see some more aggressive strategy from Nintendo.

@ironside1911 Nintendo have a strong product value in the market. They can afford to ask for higher prices than Sega. And rightly so- the NES titles offered here are of a far higher value and quality than 80 Sega games combined.

I say good on Nintendo. Giving some fun fan service, while also attracting new revenue by harnessing the power of past products.

I own a lot of plug and play systems to the point where I even said no more looks like there is one more I need to collect.

I'd buy this at Christmas...

@ironside1911 So you are @SLIGEACH_EIRE with a new user name right?

@Kirk I am guessing you didn't read the one scratch that several reviews that said half the games are not actual genesis games but cheap hombrew ones. I have watched Jontron's episode on Plug n Play consoles and I know well about the knock off systems that try to sucker you in with claims of 100+ games only for the majority of them to turn out to be utter garbage.

Also according to some of the reviews I have seen the sound output is mono only on top of the sound being way off and apparently you cant even save your game either not even with the ones that have battery backup even if you transfer them to an SD card. Also it only supports composite video. Infared for a controller is a definite no no and from what I have read its a pain to get the batteries in as well

With this NES mini on the other hand for 60 dollars you are getting 30 games which are some of the best on the NES you can use your classic controllers with it and use the new NES controller with Wii and Wii U and on top of that they graciously included the ability to create save states.

Don't compare an official licensed product to one that was clearly from cheap foreign knock off company. Also that Genesis system barely looks like a Genesis at all

Sold, where can I get one? I don't have any retro consoles besides my 64. My 100s of vc games keeps me happy. But I'm getting one of these.

@ThanosReXXX All this talk yesterday of modding and now this bad boy.I'm not putting it off no longer,my Wii's out the cupboard,ModMii is downloaded and I'm about to get to it.

@Billsama Ye have been warned about this crap! Blatant flaming and reported.

@Wolfgabe Well 40 official games and 40 homebrew games is still technically more/better than 30 official games. And it also plays all the official Sega carts too, which is a major bonus. The sound thing on the Genesis one is a def negative, so hopefully Nintendo's is better there. The Nintendo system has similar limitations in terms of SD memory, and presumably with the video outputs and stuff too. Kudos on the save stated though. And the Genesis one is an officially licensed product as far as I'm aware.

@Kirk

That's bee-yoo-ti-ful!

Is Ecco the Dolphin, Streets of Rage and the Toejam and Earl games on it?

Wow, the amount of comments here is insane. Anyway, I love the idea around this new system. If only it had Contra...

YES!!!!! Just wish you could use carts or something to add more games. Tetris on that list would have been nice.

This will be an awesome gift for some people. I might even ask for one myself.

It would of been great if it worked with original carts. There are plenty of non-nintendo games I would like to revisit from this era.

@Kimite I'm not from that generation and I'd still play it. You learn the origins of your fav characters or if you're a completely nerdy gamer like me lol. I don't know if I'd get it, though. With the no AC Adapter thing that they're doing with it, just like with the 3DS and how expensive it is, along with not being able to use your own NES games on it, I'll pass for now, probz.

No Game Genie, No NES advantage controller, no Super Techmo Bowl, No Contra, no cheat codes, no Pro Wrestling, I've seen hacked Xboxes that had more to offer.

@AVahne As a person who has taken apart a Wii, they are definitely not doing this. Even the Mini requires much more power than this thing, and this has HDMI support which the Wii did not. This also looks a decent size smaller than a Wii. You can only make a Wii thinner by removing parts, as the motherboard is the same size as the Wii itself. Also it is dirt cheap to create what is essentially a raspberry pi that plays NES roms. Depending on how the emulation works, I could totally see people modding these and adding games that were not intended to be run by it.

No cartridge space is not a problem. This thing isn't made for Nintendo nerds. This thing is made to cash on the hip 90s nostalgia and christmas microconsole buyers, and it's going to do exactly that, but some limitation make it absurd from my point of view (absurd for the expert consumer, common folks aren't going to have any problems).
>no eShop
Is as simply as that. No eShop, no possibility of buying other games.. 30 games in the box..it's like a product from another era.
Just imagine:
>New Nintendo Famicon/NES
>as powerful as a SNES
>no game in the box
>internet connection
>8 giga of memory
>eShop
>2,99 for GameBoy games; 4,99 for NES games; 7,99 for GameBoyColor games; 9,99 for SNES games
>49,99

Now this would have flied out of the shelves. They could have even rode the GO mania since pokemon is on VC. A proper console, just cheap and not so powerful, but with all the games that VC has to offer. Man they could even let people develop for it, but no, Nintendo is stuck in 1999 as usual.

Woo boy, this one's gonna sell out fast.

I played the heck out of my plug and play consoles when I was younger, so I'll definitely pick this up.

Also, I think this is targeted towards people who don't want the trouble of tracking down the console and the carts for a good price (I've spent many hours on eBay looking for the games I want, and they're always either overpriced or don't work).

@ironside1911 A "bit" presumptuous. We know nothing of the hardware yet, so a piece of hardware with a controller and 30 games for €60/$60 is indeed a decent price.

The fact that you are of the opinion that it should be cheaper, for whatever deluded reason, takes nothing away from that.

@samuelvictor "I'm on my phone so can't read all 300+ comments, but I hope the reaction to this is positive"

Well, better skip reading the rest of the comments then, the Negative Nancy's are pretty vocal in this one...

@OorWullie Ah... so the spark has caught fire... Good luck and enjoy. Use the wiibrew page to find emulators or if the softmod installs the homebrew browser, then you can go online with the wii and download them from there.

Games are found on emuparadise or the iso zone, but I probably already mentioned that, so you'll have to excuse me if I am repeating myself. It was in the middle of the night over here, but I couldn't sleep and it's a topic I love to talk about, so time was going "slightly" faster than I expected...

@Kirk As far as the video output goes: the AtGames Sega system uses standard white and yellow plugs or a SCART add-on for audio and video, this little NES box has an HDMI cable. I'd wager the second option is the superior one. Now if that Sega box had HDMI...

But I'll let some others pronounce the verdict for the AtGames consoles:
http://www.seganerds.com/2015/08/18/why-you-should-avoid-atgames-licensed-mega-drive-clones/
(And this from a site that LOVES everything Sega, hence the name SegaNerds)

And here one of the better reviewers on YouTube if not one of the top 5 reviewers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ey5zKKldY
(it's the 20 in one version that came before the one you posted, but the hardware hasn't been changed, so it is still representative for what you would get)
And finally, a short audio comparison video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtDjmFqEwwY

Even though this doesn't support carts... I'm looking more forward to this than the NX or what ever the next console is. Nintendo should just come out with its first three systems again. They are more fun than anything they have offered lately.

My only concern is that it would be sold out before I could get to the store! =) This thing is perfect for playing! Yea, it's not a true console that will let me play any NES game I want but there are some really good games on it! HDMI output! Classic NES controller style! Please do not sell out so fast!

So... $60 just to play games I already have on my Wii U...?

This is a joyful day for us NES kids, who remember the joy that system gave us. I will be buying this on day 1. Is it up yet for preorders on Amazon?!!!!

THANK YOU NINTENDO! And ITS ABOUT TIME!

cool!

SNES Mini Classic, please.
SNES Mini Classic, please.
SNES Mini Classic, please.
SNES Mini Classic, please.
SNES Mini Classic, please.
SNES Mini Classic, please.
SNES Mini Classic, please.

PLEASE!!!

@Yorumi "if people love NES so much why not get a real NES"

Because they DON'T love NES so much. They barely think about Nintendo at all. But they are browsing Wal-Mart at gift-giving season and say "Oh wow I remember some of these games from my childhood. Little Jimmy would love this, he's always playing games on his iPad. I can show him what games were like when I was his age." Badaboom, $60 at Wal-Mart, and Little Jimmy has a new toy on Christmas. That's ALL THIS IS.

I'm excited and definitely going to be getting one, if only for collection's sake.

Like others here have said....PLEASE do an SNES Mini Classic next. PLEASE.

This would be so much better if Nintendo did these.
Add in it's own dedicated eShop.
Sign up as many of the remaining 3rd party devs from the NES days, and get their games on the service.
Add an SD card slot, for extra storage.
Allow new games to be developed for it.

@ironside1911 Maybe you should look up what Novelty means. It's for impulse buying a 'retro' toy at your local music/blu-ray mall store. Next to the Star Trek bobbleheads and Rick and Morty T-Shirts. This is NOT a home console. This is 30 NES games in a little toy box and it's cute and looks like a little NES.

Since I already own most of these games digital I'll just buy the NES controller for my Wii U. XDD

Wow this just made my day!!!

@BensonUii - Well it has that german 12 symbol on it, so you will most likely get one.

@Kirk Found some reviews of the actual 80 in 1 unit. Wouldn't buy it if I were you:
http://www.amazon.com/AtGames-Genesis-Classic-Not-Machine-Specific/product-reviews/B0094H8H7I (actual buyer reviews on this page)
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?22588-Full-Review-rambling-Atgames-Sega-Genesis-classic-console-80-titles-built-in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6gLcLs1Ko8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETyj1UYwILM

Apparently they use a program called "Firecore" to emulate the games and display them in a menu and this appears to be the bad apple in these systems since it's basically a very average emulator.

@Racthet916 Okay, now repeat that wish with N64, please...

I'd be all in, if only it played actual NES carts.

@TheERaichu I rather want NES games on my 3DS so I can take them where ever I want, and play bigger games like Twilight Princess and Tokyo Mirage Sessions when I come home ;+).

Still yeah, it is really cool in terms of preserving history and a perfect gift to someone who don't have a 3DS or a Wii U, and didn't grow up with the NES games like the 8-12 years olds today as well as older kids/people like us and of course people who grew up with the NES :+).

A little treat to everyone ^^.

@ThanosReXXX I wouldn't buy it anyway (although I might consider it if everything was a high standard/quality). But I wouldn't buy the NES one either (even if it is at high standard/quality)—I personally do not think Nintendo's value proposition is worth it in the particular case.

So cute, and cheaper than buying the 28 games available on WiiU VC and you get Bubble Bobble and Final Fantasy, which has not been released previously. That said, I might have to pick up some of the NES-style classic controllers for use with my WiiU

Its amazing anyone can have a bad reaction to this...its too pricey! There's not enough games! You can build your own with a Raspberry Pi!

Ridiculous. If this is too pricey, perhaps you need a new job, with better pay.

If 30 games aren't enough, maybe you're just greedy and expect the world for nothing.

And if you can build your own via a Rasberry Pi, have at it. Some of us have busy lives and better things to do with our lives then to work on cell phones to save $60..., and quite frankly, $60 isn't that much to spend. And if it is, perhaps I'd concentrate on getting a higher paying job, rather than expecting companies to give away their products for free.

Nintendo is a business, first and foremost...let's not forget the entire reason for its existence is to make money for its shareholders and its employees, not to run a giant discount store for cheap fans.

And the controller works on the Wii U!

Will there be any way to preorder this??? Its coming out right before Christmas... I want one before they get snatched up.

@Kirk Oh, I'm not yet completely in the "must-buy" camp either, but I'm at least willing to keep an open mind and I'm certainly going to keep an eye on it and I hope that Nintendo Life is going to review one, so we can get the what's what in comparison with similar devices.

I was never a fan of the NES, I started with the SNES and couldn't go back because I loved that the games had more color in them. If they do this for the SNES I will buy it instantly.

"there's no power supply in the box with the European version "

That's a modern Nintendo console for you, I guess. ¯(ツ)/¯

No Space Invaders?!?

Can't wait to play this console when it arrives on 11th November!

@Billsama Yes, im also Super Mario but now using the name of Luigi ... no, im not, and I dont know who that is, but im sure you can just compare the writing style of anyone to see who is related... I give u a hint, english is not my first language... but thanks

First Pokemon Go and now this! Nintendo is making world a better place! Yes, this is mini-console, but controller cable looks awfully short! Pro Controller cable is also short, luckily extension cable doesn't seem so hard to manufacture... I'm buying this, but don't buy this for your children who demand brand new gaming console... Christmas ruined!

@Embassy Exactly, spot on mate - like the miitomo hype where all the angry nintendo army came praising it and now months later its in the garbage can... same here.. just wait few months...it will collect dust on your collectors cupboard. But thats the idea.

Now that I think about it, using the Wii controller ports is actually pretty cool. If they ever get around to SNES, N64, and Gamecube and make brand new controllers for those that use the Wii port, that'll in turn provide brand new controllers for VC players on Wii, Wii U, and presumably Wii 3 to use. Especially Gamecube, as that can give Smash Bros. players official Gamecube controllers without the need of an adapter.

Damn... I have to get this.

"you can't use your original NES carts with the console"
Too bad!!

I'm really really confused about why so many people feel like this should support cartridges...? I have some news thats gonna get you really excited. You can buy a working NES online for about the same price as this thing (~$70) right now!! And guess what! It supports cartridges!!!

But seriously it sounds like you just wanted Nintendo to give you an NES with 30 free games for the same price as what NESs are currently worth... Also if you have carts do you not also have an NES?? This console is not about making the ultimate retro gaming machine, its for people who either haven't owned nintendo consoles for a while, have a lot of nostalgia for NES, want to share their nostalgia with others, grew up in arcades, etc. Nintendo is adapting to the changing way that video games are consumed as media. Selling this new console is going to help raise awareness of their presence on smart phones where they target that same crowd. I think that this product is going to have a wide reach in the non-console-gamer audience similar to the way the wii did (but I obviously don't think it will come close to wii sales).

It's a one of those retro TV games, like the Atari flashback. If you want one, you want one. If you don't, you don't. This one is official Nintendo, has a neat feature in that the controllers use the same socket/format as the Wii classic controllers that plug into the bottom of wiimotes, and has a decent selection of games. That megadrive one everyone's referencing does have a couple of big pluses with the original cartridge slot and the wireless controllers, which is great, but not expected in these types of things - that's just them being super-awesome. Nintendo still have a business selling us virtual console stuff. It wouldn't help them in any way to include a cartridge port. Also, for those wanting WiFi, Bluetooth, the ability to browse a specialised eshop selling nes games only or whatever... Get real.

I see a lot of people thinking that there's Wii hardware inside this. I think they're insane. Bookmark this comment - I'll eat a sock if that's the case. And no, a minor component like a connector doesn't count...

My opinions? Seems like a nice product. The styling is nice, and there's a decent amount of good stuff. I'm tempted, though I'd probably only enjoy a few of those titles (bubble bobble and the super Marios). It's a shame RC Pro-Am isn't on there, but understandable given it only recently came out on XBOne...

@VanillaLake

Yup. That's basically the only reason Nintendo made this decision. I mean it's cool and all; it's a nice little novelty item, but that's the real reason why it's on the way, to boost up profits as much as they can cause every thing else is lacking. It's a smart move don't get me wrong, but their holiday sales will basically be this, and Pokemon, lol.

No one does nostalgia like Nintendo, and they are banking on that more and more these days. It also makes me wonder if NX will take on a retro feel too. It's a curious thought.

For the love of God, TAKE MY BLOODY MONEY!

@Marce2240 I'd like to see a $40 bundle or something of the sort where you can get all the games included on this device on your Wii U. Either way, this thing is a terrific value.

I've never thought about buying one of the SEGA versions of these mini consoles just because reviews have always said that the emulation was spotty and weird (bad sound, usually). Nintendo, though? I trust they'll get this to work great so it will be worth buying one.

@Thermoclorn Well, I did happen to have a bunch of carts and no NES for a while after my system got stolen a few years ago. We finally replaced it 2 months ago for $60. That said, there's certainly some advantages that would've been great had this system supported carts (which I fully expected it not to), such as the HDMI hookups and restore points. The NES looks rather crap on an HDTV, and a digital signal would do a lot to combat that. Thankfully, I still have a CRT in our spare bedroom, but who knows how much life it has left in it?

@MoonKnight7 After Miyamoto saying it will take 2-3 years to have something interesting related to Mario, Reggie saying that they don't care about technical specifications (I'm sure Reggie does) and Ubisoft announcing Just Dance for NX, it could easily be Wii U 2 (or worse). :S

When I saw the Twitter post that NoA made, I thought it was a joke at first. I looked at the username and it was actually Nintendo of America posting that. So that was a bit of a surprise for me. This is actually really nice and interesting though, might grab one of these NES Classic Edition Systems.

you bet your (censored) I'm excited. Just pre ordered the (censored) thing from Amazon UK.

For exemple

Been wanting an official HDMI NES for years! Reckon I should have been more specific. Still, for folks who don't own these titles on the VC in some form, this is a great deal!

The NES controller attachment (compatible with Wiimotes) should have been a thing long before now, but it's swell Nintendo is finally getting around to it. As a classic controller enthusiast, I'm hoping this new unit paves the way for SNES and N64 Classic Editions so we can nab those controllers as well.

Sheesh, the negativity flowing in this comment section is even worse than IGN or Gamespot this time.

Lot of people here act as if everyone had a NES, or has a Wii U or 3DS. Newsflash - they don't. Many people are interested in replaying classics, or sharing with their children, in a legal way. Just becuase you aren't the target market does not mean it is a bad idea, bad product, or whatever else.

That said, it is a brilliant move in its own way - they fill the Christmas gap they had and they push the Nintendo brand hard in prepartion for the NX, while discarding the Wii brand. I don't know in another countries, but here, most people know old consoles as Nintendo - and the main newspaper just included an article in their website about this.

I'm honestly kind of disappointed in this. Which is a shame, because I've wanted something like this from Nintendo for a while.

First off, it's 60 dollars. The others, notably the Genesis one, only retailed at 50 (I believe. It's been a while since I've seen one in stores.), and you can get them even cheaper at places like Dollar General when bigger chains don't sell them quickly enough. It only comes with one controller. This isn't a huge issue, as a second is sold pretty cheaply and you don't really need it, but the others did come with two. You can not use actual Nintendo carts with it. This is a huge issue for me, as most of the NES's good games were third party. Now, granted, it does come with a few third party games built in, but if you want to play any of the other Mega Mans, Castlevania 3, or the Dragon Warrior series on this thing, you're out of luck. There's no actual power supply shipped with the console. It is 2016. What? Though the article claims that's only for the European version, but it's still incredibly stupid. Finally, there's only 30 games. Going back to the SEGA retro console, it came with a whopping EIGHTY. Nintendo is once again showing that they have no idea how to price anything, and/or only care about profit from half-assing something. It's the Virtual Console, but not Virtual. Also, this is more subjective, but it's based on the ugly VCR box, not the original Famicom or the toploading NES model 2. But that's just me... probably.

I'll still probably end up getting it at some point, since I'm a complete Nintendrone and can't control myself, but I will definitely be waiting for a sale or a price drop. If there's one positive to this, there's a decent chance that it'll be running on much better official software/hardware, not an emulator, like the others. But I'm not holding my breath.

If you don't have the games already it is much cheaper plus you get a nes style controller. Also if you don't have a Wii U which is the case with a lot of people you get a neat collecters item without having to get a system you don't want.

This is going to sell well, I have the games on VC so I won't get it but if I didn't or didn't have a Wii U I would.

Wasn't aware of this before now. Kept seeing this image in the comments and so finally read the comments and focused on the image. I have to agree this makes the Mini Classic NES look downright Scrooge like by comparison. Nearly X3 more games, wireless controllers, lets you use original cartridges, cheaper and includes an AC adapter.

Nintendo, stingy? Never!

I'm now more interested in the Mega Drive thing-a-ma-jig. I grew up a Nintendo gamer and have all the older Nintendo games already, be it on cartridge or on VC.

Nintendo have cut costs by not including an AC adapter in the UK version. Like what they've done with the 3DS.

http://nintendoeverything.com/nes-classic-edition-doesnt-include-ac-adapter-in-the-uk/

nice!

@Kirk That Mega Drive includes 80 16-bit games, two controllers and accepts cartridges, while Mini NES includes 30 8-bit games, one controller, does not accept cartridges and is more expensive.

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I think I rather get an RetroN console instead.

Paying $60 for a handful of amiibos = cool man, imma put that on my shelf
Paying $60 for a mini NES with 30 great games = ewww get it away

Never change, pretend gamers.

@VanillaLake Exactly.

Not sure why you would buy this over a 2DS for nearly the same price that can play the same games... and more.

@Alshain01 Because this has $150 worth of VC games that are all really good games (okay, ice climbers is very meh at best). It also plays on a TV, which to be honest is much nicer than playing on a 2DS unless you absolutely need a portable format, then, sure, get a 2DS. But still get one of these, too, IMO. This is cheap and has a great collection. I'll support it not only to enjoy on its own but also to encourage the SNES-mini.

The price point on this unit versus the Sega throwback is likely due to the Nintendo system being built BY Nintendo, whereas the Sega offering was farmed out to a 3rd party who didn't accurately emulate the original experience (primarily audio problems). If a consumer doesn't approve of this new mini, do not buy it . As a fan of the original console, this purchase is a no-brainer. I still have my NES and have purchased most of these titles via VC, but Nintendo knows its dedicated base will snatch this up. Nostalgia is super powerful. And the price will likely go down, so no worries there. I'm the most excited for the controller which will work with existing Wiimotes. It's an attachment long overdue.

@ironside1911 True. How can people say that this thing should cost 30x5= €150 LOL Nintendo is so out of touch and so are the die-hard fans that try to justify anything that Nintendo does.