With the lite retailing for 200 I have a hard time justifying the regular switch's 100 premium for what is essentially just the ability to output to the tv. Regular Switch should get a $50 price cut imo. Dock is laughably overpriced for what it does, always has been but there hasn't been a cheaper alternative, til now.
Has Nintendo released a single game yet that has had "good" online? Their approach to online has been hilariously bad and we still have yet to get anything resembling Xbox Live from 2005 which is just sad. Honestly the big appeal to me is the online aspect of this game and the fact it's a buggy mess is just sad. Plus there's probably no voice chat which in a game like this would be nice to have.
Tbh Xenoblade Chronicles is the only good game in the series. X had a stupid story and 2 was too tropey and took a good 30 hours to finally get even sort of interesting. Excited for a remaster.
I thought their e3 last year was pretty bad, they spent WAY too much time on Smash (felt like almost half their direct) and really didn't show much of the other games like Astral Chain and Luigi's Mansion 3 which should receive decent exposure this year.
Showing Pokemon again after just having a direct worries me a bit as when you have a mere 40 minute presentation a part of me is wondering if they don't have much to show again even though they should have plenty with Luigi's Mansion 3, Bayonetta 3, Fire Emblem, Astral Chain and that mech game (name escapes me).
I'd like a surprise reveal like Metroid Prime 4 even if it's coming in 2020. Also what the hell happened to Shin Megami Tensei V? I NEEEEEEDDDD ITTTTTT
Only quibble I have with the game, well two really, is that the story in the campaign is about as vanilla as it gets and some of the campaign missions feel cheap in how they approach difficulty as they set you up to approach the objective a certain way then flip the scrip leaving you basically screwed unless you knew what was coming next.
Maybe I'm just being salty but I find the first party support for Switch to have really taken a nosedive since a really good first year. Smash is awesome don't get me wrong but 2018 had a lot of Wii U ports and games like Kirby which, while fun, aren't really major titles. Metroid getting delayed isn't a real surprise as a static image really isn't indicative of something coming soon but I do wonder what Nintendo had in store for the Switch as they haven't really announced all that much. I'm hoping the new Pokemon makes it this year as that would be a huge game for 2019.
It just kind of feels similar to the Wii U situation at times with the major games seemingly coming out every couple months instead of almost weekly on the other consoles. While the third party support is much, much better the Switch still isn't getting most big third party games and the first party library isn't quite picking up the slack.
In addition, I wonder if Metroid might be a launch title for the Switch successor as 2021 would give the Switch a 5 year life and I doubt they'll let the Switch ride that long given how there are already rumors of a Switch Pro as it were.
Would like a new Mario RPG with some soul back in it. Memorable characters that aren't all Toads, party members with different abilities, cool locales, and an actual, freaking, reason to battle random enemies that the last two Paper Mario games lacked. Idc if it's Mario and Luigi or Paper Mario but for the love of it all bring the series back to the greatness it once was.
Hell, I'd settle for Super Paper Mario 2. It was different but I thought the game was awesome with the best story in a Mario game yet.
Let's talk about that $60 price tag though. For what is essentially a 6 year old game with very little changes it's hard to justify given they didn't really do much new and while having both nslu and nsmbu together is nice the series itself has never really felt like a series Nintendo put a lot of effort into. First game was a nice novelty but ugh. You look at a game like Tropical Freeze (which was another game I wasn't enamored with the price) it just puts nsmbu to shame in terms of design, music and gameplay.
It was a good game and the best in the series but admittedly that's not saying much. As a former Wii u owner maybe I'm salty the Switch isn't get new games but instead getting Wii u retreads at full price but I've never liked the practice of ports of old titles being full price anyway.
Switch is underpowered and as games get bigger it becomes harder and harder to scale back. If switch was similar in power we would see more third party stuff. Full stop. Maybe not all but significantly more.
Nintendo marches to the beat of their own drum which is fine in this DLC for turning the game on world but at the same time we need to see they still have room to improve. Online is still a joke and their eshop is a bit of a mess. Plus a stronger system would be nice as I mostly play mine at home docked so I dont get anything out of the portable aspect.
Oh get the eff outta here. It was free and now it's not. On the most basic level online play has been taken away and hidden behind a paywall. Once you get past that as admittedly it's a petty gripe the online hasn't improved any, voice chat is still laughably bad, and the only value we get is free NES games we have all probably played to death already.
20 dollars is a small price to pay but you get what you pay for. The same crappy p2p internet, the same voice chat app garbage on a console that can support voice chat on the system, still using friend codes, and cloud saves which go away on expiration.
It may be cheap but it is barely worth the price of admission
I guess I'm just sick of NES titles at this point. From the Wii to the Wii U to the NES mini, enough. How about N64 games? Maybe a Gamecube title or two?
I know Nintendo likes to do the bare minimum but rereleasing the same 20 games for the past 10 years is losing its luster. NES online is neat but I've played those games to death already.
No voice chat? Nintendo half-assing online, never in a million years.
"But Capcom." But Nintendo is about to charge for online and they have yet to do one game with voice chat and good net code. So color me a skeptic but the more and more online games without basic features the more skeptical I get.
1. Significantly better graphics. The graphics in Let's Go is by no means terrible, but I can't call em good either. "Looks like a Cell Phone game," has been tossed around and I think that's fair. There's a lack of detail in models, textures, etc, that makes the game look like it was going to come out for gamecube or something.
4. Better battle animations. I don't see why we can't have the pokemon physically attacking one another and the effects for some of the moves seems cheesy.
I just can't get over how mediocre the game looks. Similar to my feelings when I saw X and Y for the first time I know Pokemon can look better and this cell phone-quality graphics are off-putting especially on a system that can pull off Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
I can see why Nintendo is doing this but frankly I don't care. Nintendo has made 0 effort to bring back old games on the eshop or bringing back VC instead giving us overpriced rom machines that look like the old systems but dont offer space for physical playback of genuine carts or a store for more games. Plus how long have they been jerking us around about Mother 3?
Ya know what, screw them. I played just about every old school Nintendo game I missed out on for free and played and beaten Mother 3 and I didn't pay a dime. Nintendo didn't give me an option so I made one.
Until Nintendo actually decides to be pro consumer in regards to their older titles I'm happy as can be downloading ROMs.
I'm hoping for a return of solid single player options like adventure mode and a more traditional classic as the single player for Wii u was really bad and all star mode is way too tedious to play through now given the large roster.
I'm hoping for a major surprise or two given they spent so much time during e3 talking about it I'm hoping they have more to show instead of "Roy's hair now has more texture than ever before."
The big sticking point to me is online as not being able to play stock matches with randoms and no voice chat options bugs me. The netcode on smash has always been rather mediocre if I'm being kind so I'm hoping for a big upgrade on that front.
I like Smash a lot but as far as hearing about it all the time I could do without. I haven't been "edge of my seat," excited since the days of Smash Dojo giving out little tidbits of information every day leading up to Brawl's launch. It's nice to hear about mechanical changes but to dedicate nearly 1/2 your e3 runtime to Smash was too much, a lot of it bored the hell out of me.
Personally every time I see new Smash news I just think to myself, "Yeah, this is like their only big game this year and it comes out in December... It's July."
I feel like they should have included the 3d world levels and the new levels as well. Kind of cheapens the additions when they came at a cost of something else being omitted.
They're barely pumping out enough games for the Switch and they want to divide their game development teams in two more or less?
Switch is a powerful handheld but pretty mediocre as a home console if I can be candid and coming out with a 3ds successor would really kill the point of the switch. "You can play it on your TV." Is a neat novelty but that appeal would be cannibalized if they release something comparable in strength to the switch for cheaper as a handheld only device. For 300 bucks the switch costs maybe 180 to build and it comes with an 80 dollar dock and 80 dollar controllers so taking those out you can theoretically come out with something comparable but 100 dollars cheaper.
I have to say Smash is definitely not the kind of game you want to spend nearly all your e3 on. Out of the 45 minutes of the direct 25 was Smash and most of that was talking about minuscule changes here and there. It's nice to have a game celebrating the franchise but Smash has more or less been the same basic game and seeing the same footage more or less over and over for 3 days got old quickly.
Pokemon Let's Go looks like an ok game but for 60 bucks I wish the graphics were better. For a system stronger than the Wii U the Switch is barely sweating it here. It looks like a cell phone game that Nintendo moved to Switch to charge 60 bucks for. Honestly I've never thought the pokemon franchise on handheld had great graphics (I still find the 3ds ones a little on the ugly side) but this just seems like minimal effort.
Mario Party looks decent but there hasn't been a good one in a decade so it's hard to get my up.
It's really hard to hype up third party stuff when a lot of it has been available on other consoles and I think this is where Nintendo needs to improve the most. Stuff like Hollow Knight, Wolfenstein and Dragon Ball Z fighters is great but how about getting it at the same time as everyone else. Most people own another console since Nintendo no longer can be the only console someone owns and most people will have already played these titles leading to the "droughts" everyone is bringing up.
Honestly Nintendo hasn't had a good e3 in a long time and I can't tell what their strategy is anymore. Seems like they aren't making games nearly as fast and haven't been actively courting third parties as we were once led to believe.
Also if Fortnite can use the headphone jack for voice chat why the actual fudge does splatoon need that dumb app? Nintendo online service launches soon and even at 20 bucks it seems too high because yeah it's cheap but it's also crap.
Ultimate fan service? This was a Smash direct in the guise of being a direct for other games. We have dlc and ports til smash arrives in December... itās June.
Nintendo is dropping the ball big time with the Switch right now and this direct had echoes of Wii U in the whole āthis year kind of sucked but next year... will also suck but you donāt know that yet.ā
Maybe I've become jaded after years of disappointment that was the Wii U (the echoes of "E3 wasn't great but wait til next year" are burned into my soul) I can't say I get hyped over Nintendo E3 anymore. I will say I found 2018 mostly disappointing for Switch thus far and frankly I feel they needed more non ports as I had a Wii U and wasn't interested in double dipping especially given they are charging more now then they did then.
My hopes are for a killer E3 with more information on Yoshi and Pokemon and of course next year's Pokemon as well. I'd like smash to have a single player again like in melee and I'd like at least one Mario tier surprise (Mario kart 9?) But I've learned over the years to set the bar super low and when Nintendo fails to meet even that just "wait til next year." It's hard to get excited anymore when the big stuff leaks and the surprises more often than not turn into bastardization of loved franchises (paper Mario, star fox).
Since I've been all pessimist lemme go one step beyond and hope Nintendo one day goes back to stage shows. The direct is ok but the treehouses are way too long for their own good.
I've always preferred using ROMs and emulators to play games legality be damned. Nintendo charges nearly 10 bucks for Earthbound and refuses to give us Mother 3 so whatever, within 20 minutes I was playing both on my computer with no issues.
I don't mind paying for VC when it's available but for glorified ROMs they were overpriced and the release schedule was ass. Tons of classic games never saw the light of day.
Switch at this point is pretty much maxed out in what it can do and the fact it isn't getting AAA ports at the same time as other consoles because of the need for massive tweaks a la Doom is a bit telling the system isn't really powerful enough. As a handheld it's great but when trying to use it at home it's basically just a Wii U all over again. Anything more ambitious than Mario Odyssey (which looks great mind you) and you see the Switch hit a wall. BOTW still doesn't have the best of framerates even now and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has the same issues and is pretty bad in handheld-only mode in terms of performance/graphics. So a revision would make sense. Maybe not this early but next year I can see it.
Switch is in a weird place. The third party support is disappointing if I'm being blunt as I really don't care enough about portability to justify paying full retail price for games that are upwards of 5 years old. The Switch has Doom as the lone AAA multiplat and given it was gimped to hell to even get working is concerning for future Switch multiplatform releases. Exclusive third party stuff is the way to go but outside of Bayonetta there isn't much on that front.
First party games are going to be the bread and butter but Switch in 2018 is look pretty light. 2019 is when Pokemon and Metroid will likely come out but 2018 is looking barren as Kirby and Yoshi, while fun aren't experiences you are going to keep coming back to long after you complete it.
Online on Switch right now is bare minimum and still isn't as good as Xbox Live was... in 2005, so color me a skeptic but I have 0 faith it won't still be crap when we get to pay for the privilege of still using friend codes for online and no voice chat unless we use the app.
As someone who owned the Wii U I really don't want to double dip on tropical freeze. Mario Tennis looks interesting.
Third party support I'll admit I'm disappointed by. Old ports aren't exactly exciting especially given I don't take my switch on the go. Would be nice to see more current generation titles I haven't had the opportunity to play before on the switch.
Kirby looks amazing, but Kirby always delivers.
Hope for another direct in a month or two so we can see the big first party titles for the switch this year. Would like to see if Metroid or Pokemon can make 2018 ( I doubt it) and I'd love to see more of Yoshi.
Nintendo gave up on the Wii U after its first year. Wii U got maybe 4-5 high profile releases a year but had next to no third party support so there would be long stretches of time with nothing new to play for the damn thing.
Personally I think the Wii U was Nintendo's worst console they've ever made (that lasted a full console cycle anyway) and am happy to see the Switch, which I wouldn't call a technical marvel or anything but it's clear Nintendo actually tried with this thing, succeed.
Music sounds great, too bad the remake looks like a cell phone game. No mouth animation during cutscenes and the animation itself seems wonky. I just don't see how real effort was put into a remake of a game of Secret of Mana's caliber when the end result looks like it does.
My question is if Nintendo put too many heavy hitters in the first year of its life and 2018 is going to suffer for it. Kirby is nice but it's not exactly Mario tier. Pokemon and Metroid announcements were nice but realistically they'll be late 2018 or early 2019 at the absolute earliest so we have large chunks of 2018 unaccounted for.
Call me jaded but the third party support, while infinitely better than Wii u, is still on the bad side of ok. Old ports at full price? Gee, thanks.
So many Monster Hunter fans are bitter Capcom is trying something different. "But, it's a handheld experience, blah, blah, blah," as if this still won't sell gangbusters. Sure it's nice to play Monster Hunter on the go but so is playing one that doesn't look like a ps2 game. Give World a chance.
From a purely visual standpoint I prefer Galaxy, it feels more like a Mario game to me. A lot of Odysseys levels are too "realistic" for my taste.
That said I will still say Galaxy is the better game. The stars feel much more rewarding to find. In Odyssey you can sneeze and find 2 or more power moons. They're are just too many of them to have them all be interesting to obtain, hence I prefer the stars of Galaxy.
I don't know if I'd be willing to play Mario Party for just the mini games. The board section is half the appeal for me and I'm sad to see it omitted. Mario Party hasn't been good for a long time and I don't get why Nintendo can't just make a game like Mario Party 1-4 without needlessly altering the core of what makes a Mario Party, for lack of a better term, Mario Party.
Not really sure why this stuff can't be implemented on the system level like every other console not made by Nintendo. Needless switching between app and system and for a console that is meant to be taken on the go as well as at home just makes it much worse.
I eagerly look forward to paying for online that isn't even on par with the original xbox.
I've let up on Nintendo lately as the games for the Switch are definitely pretty good (not great, but satisfactory for year one) but I cannot let this crap online slide.
I still find Nintendo's approach to online questionable at best. The map rotation system, while thankfully not as bad, is still a big black eye when compared to more modern games in a similar genre. For an online-focused title I find it exceptionally jarring that Nintendo is placing such restrictions on it. Voice chat is finally here but once again Nintendo takes the ass-backwards approach by making us use an app for that which seems counter intuitive for a system meant to be taken on the go as well as played at home.
10/10 review is surprising but hardly shocking on a Nintendo site but I do wish reviewers would start calling Nintendo out on their lackluster online. They may have listened to the fans with the items but the online has barely been improved and for 2017 frankly that isn't good enough.
I understand Nintendo fans may not mind too much but sadly it's because they've become accustomed to less. As a longtime Nintendo fan I wish Nintendo would start embracing online.
Nintendo is basically tone deaf when it comes to online and the fact they eventually want to start charging for a service that is marginally better than the Wii U's poor service is rather disappointing. Pricing notwithstanding it's a shame we can't have online that rivals something the original Xbox had. Using an app for services is no better than hopping on Skype to chat with friends like I used to do with the Wii and Wii U.
While Splatoon 2 is certainly going to be amazing Nintendo's restrictions on maps/modes and even times we can play Salmon Run online are ridiculous. Get with the times Nintendo. Or at least get with 2005
Look, I applaud Nintendo's development teams for making outstanding games but I gotta say. 1080p/60 fps should be pretty close to the norm for 2017. While we are looking at the competition working on 4k consoles we're supposed to be content with a supposed "home console you can take with you," is hitting 720p with some frame rate dips even with zero AA. I'm sure it'll be optimized more for launch but sometimes I feel like you have to call out Nintendo for not going with a little more horsepower for the Switch. Third party support is still terrible and mediocre hardware is part of the reason why.
Rant aside Mario Odyssey looks really good. But once again I won't call it impressive that a game that looks about as good as any Wii U title running at 60 fps is some technical prowess given the sacrifices are still being made to compensate.
Announcements with zero pictures or footage is indicative of a long development cycle ahead so I'm thinking 2019 at the earliest. Outside the "Holy crap it's coming," there's not much to build hype as it's a year at the earliest before we see any footage.
Maybe I'm just hard to please but this is akin to a name drop and nothing more.
I don't think major third party support is ever coming to this thing so the key would be a steady stream of Nintendo franchises and some smaller third party stuff. I'm hoping they stay true to their word about having lots to go over as in years passed they've made similar promises and failed to deliver. Even those great directs from the past in terms of how they were presented were often light on content so I'm hoping they have the goods... Although it's pretty clear the Switch launched anywhere from 6 months to a year before it was truly ready so I'm treating this year as a glorified beta.
Still immensely disappointing. I recall the first E3 after the Wii U launched was light on content and while we were assured "The games would come," they never really did. While not their usual MO it would benefit Nintendo to showcase at least a little into 2018 and show that the Switch will be getting more than the Wii U ever did given the third party situation is more or less the same in terms of retail releases.
I would like one more surprise at E3 of at least a b or c tier franchise, the arrival of Pokken does nothing for me and the summer is looking light on games so I'd love to see confirmation of another game that'll bridge us to Odyssey in the winter time.
@westman98 There online still sucks something fierce. Voice chat being provided on an app is ass backwards not to mention the total lack of VC at this time. Plus Splatoon 2 is keeping the map rotation system which is trash. Just let us pick the mode we want to play and then vote on the map like any other fps.
As for the summer releases I didn't dig Arms, it's fun but not $60 fun. Splatoon 2 is really the only "must have" for the summer as Pokken wasn't really all that great. Even if you dig all those games 3 games in 4 months is still pretty sparse and I would've hoped Nintendo would've gotten more games available even on the eshop considering they let the Wii U wither for 2 years.
I remember the drip feed method for the Wii U which had many people wondering when the games were going to come and they never really did with any real frequency. The Switch had a solid launch but they need to have a far better release schedule than the Wii U so I think this E3 is important to showcase they learned from the Wii U.
Online is something I'd like addressed as well as it's marginally better than what the Wii U offered and I sure don't want to pay for something where voice and party chat aren't even options. Even through an app is an ass backwards workaround. Nintendo has been very late to the online party it'd be nice if they could at least offer a comparable service.
As for games I'm hoping Xenoblade 2 makes it this year. X was ok but I preferred Chronicles.
Splatoon launched half finished so I really hate it being used as a comparison here. ARMs actually looks fully fledged at launch and the dlc is just a bonus.
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Re: Hardware Review: Nintendo Switch Lite - Half A Switch, But That's More Than Enough For Some
With the lite retailing for 200 I have a hard time justifying the regular switch's 100 premium for what is essentially just the ability to output to the tv. Regular Switch should get a $50 price cut imo. Dock is laughably overpriced for what it does, always has been but there hasn't been a cheaper alternative, til now.
Re: Review: Super Kirby Clash - Monster Hunter Meets The Cute Pink Puffball
Has Nintendo released a single game yet that has had "good" online? Their approach to online has been hilariously bad and we still have yet to get anything resembling Xbox Live from 2005 which is just sad. Honestly the big appeal to me is the online aspect of this game and the fact it's a buggy mess is just sad. Plus there's probably no voice chat which in a game like this would be nice to have.
Re: Video: Here's How Xenoblade Chronicles' Switch Remaster Compares To The Wii Original
Tbh Xenoblade Chronicles is the only good game in the series. X had a stupid story and 2 was too tropey and took a good 30 hours to finally get even sort of interesting. Excited for a remaster.
Re: Hands On: Luigiās Mansion 3 Is Shaping Up To Be The Best In The Series
Looks like they have some good puzzles in mind as well, honestly I love Dark Moon and part of the reason was the focus on puzzle solving.
Re: Feature: Nintendo E3 2019 - What Are You Hoping For?
I thought their e3 last year was pretty bad, they spent WAY too much time on Smash (felt like almost half their direct) and really didn't show much of the other games like Astral Chain and Luigi's Mansion 3 which should receive decent exposure this year.
Showing Pokemon again after just having a direct worries me a bit as when you have a mere 40 minute presentation a part of me is wondering if they don't have much to show again even though they should have plenty with Luigi's Mansion 3, Bayonetta 3, Fire Emblem, Astral Chain and that mech game (name escapes me).
I'd like a surprise reveal like Metroid Prime 4 even if it's coming in 2020. Also what the hell happened to Shin Megami Tensei V? I NEEEEEEDDDD ITTTTTT
Re: Soapbox: I Don't 'Get' Smash Bros. And I Just Don't Know Why
Is it good? Yes.
Is it devote almost a whole e3 event to? Not even close.
Re: Launch Weekend Sales Of Wargroove Have Already Covered Development Costs
Only quibble I have with the game, well two really, is that the story in the campaign is about as vanilla as it gets and some of the campaign missions feel cheap in how they approach difficulty as they set you up to approach the objective a certain way then flip the scrip leaving you basically screwed unless you knew what was coming next.
Still a great game though.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
Maybe I'm just being salty but I find the first party support for Switch to have really taken a nosedive since a really good first year. Smash is awesome don't get me wrong but 2018 had a lot of Wii U ports and games like Kirby which, while fun, aren't really major titles. Metroid getting delayed isn't a real surprise as a static image really isn't indicative of something coming soon but I do wonder what Nintendo had in store for the Switch as they haven't really announced all that much. I'm hoping the new Pokemon makes it this year as that would be a huge game for 2019.
It just kind of feels similar to the Wii U situation at times with the major games seemingly coming out every couple months instead of almost weekly on the other consoles. While the third party support is much, much better the Switch still isn't getting most big third party games and the first party library isn't quite picking up the slack.
In addition, I wonder if Metroid might be a launch title for the Switch successor as 2021 would give the Switch a 5 year life and I doubt they'll let the Switch ride that long given how there are already rumors of a Switch Pro as it were.
Re: Feature: The Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Team On Remaking A Beloved Classic
Would like a new Mario RPG with some soul back in it. Memorable characters that aren't all Toads, party members with different abilities, cool locales, and an actual, freaking, reason to battle random enemies that the last two Paper Mario games lacked. Idc if it's Mario and Luigi or Paper Mario but for the love of it all bring the series back to the greatness it once was.
Hell, I'd settle for Super Paper Mario 2. It was different but I thought the game was awesome with the best story in a Mario game yet.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Takes A Look At Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe On Switch
Let's talk about that $60 price tag though. For what is essentially a 6 year old game with very little changes it's hard to justify given they didn't really do much new and while having both nslu and nsmbu together is nice the series itself has never really felt like a series Nintendo put a lot of effort into. First game was a nice novelty but ugh. You look at a game like Tropical Freeze (which was another game I wasn't enamored with the price) it just puts nsmbu to shame in terms of design, music and gameplay.
It was a good game and the best in the series but admittedly that's not saying much. As a former Wii u owner maybe I'm salty the Switch isn't get new games but instead getting Wii u retreads at full price but I've never liked the practice of ports of old titles being full price anyway.
Re: Reggie: Third-Party Gaps In Switch Game Library Linked To Timing Of System Reveal
Switch is underpowered and as games get bigger it becomes harder and harder to scale back. If switch was similar in power we would see more third party stuff. Full stop. Maybe not all but significantly more.
Nintendo marches to the beat of their own drum which is fine in this DLC for turning the game on world but at the same time we need to see they still have room to improve. Online is still a joke and their eshop is a bit of a mess. Plus a stronger system would be nice as I mostly play mine at home docked so I dont get anything out of the portable aspect.
Re: Joker From Persona 5 Joins The Battle As The First DLC Character In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
The real question is how do you pick from the series' god-tier osts?
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Service Had A "Good" Launch, Focus Will Now Shift To Boosting Its Appeal
It's 2018 and Nintendo's online service is still worse than something the ps2 and xbox had back in 2005.
I can't wait to play Smash online and enjoy the same laggy netcode but now I'm paying for the privilege.
Re: Soapbox: We Like To Grumble, But Nintendo Switch Online Is Actually A Very Generous Offer
Oh get the eff outta here. It was free and now it's not. On the most basic level online play has been taken away and hidden behind a paywall. Once you get past that as admittedly it's a petty gripe the online hasn't improved any, voice chat is still laughably bad, and the only value we get is free NES games we have all probably played to death already.
20 dollars is a small price to pay but you get what you pay for. The same crappy p2p internet, the same voice chat app garbage on a console that can support voice chat on the system, still using friend codes, and cloud saves which go away on expiration.
It may be cheap but it is barely worth the price of admission
Re: Video: Here's How Nintendo Switch Online Handles NES Gameplay Over The Web
I guess I'm just sick of NES titles at this point. From the Wii to the Wii U to the NES mini, enough. How about N64 games? Maybe a Gamecube title or two?
I know Nintendo likes to do the bare minimum but rereleasing the same 20 games for the past 10 years is losing its luster. NES online is neat but I've played those games to death already.
Re: Review: Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate (Switch)
No voice chat? Nintendo half-assing online, never in a million years.
"But Capcom." But Nintendo is about to charge for online and they have yet to do one game with voice chat and good net code. So color me a skeptic but the more and more online games without basic features the more skeptical I get.
Re: New PokƩmon: Let's Go Video Shows More Mega Evolutions
Couple things I'd like the "real" Switch PokƩmon game to have:
1. Significantly better graphics. The graphics in Let's Go is by no means terrible, but I can't call em good either. "Looks like a Cell Phone game," has been tossed around and I think that's fair. There's a lack of detail in models, textures, etc, that makes the game look like it was going to come out for gamecube or something.
2. PokƩmon NEED voices, these "cries," are basically the same since the old days and good god is it jarring the longer it goes on. They don't need to have the voices from the anime or whatever but some legitimate roars and growls will go a long way.
3. Regular wild encounters.
4. Better battle animations. I don't see why we can't have the pokemon physically attacking one another and the effects for some of the moves seems cheesy.
Re: A New Set Of Let's Go Pikachu And Eevee Videos Showcase Different PokƩmon Battle Animations
I just can't get over how mediocre the game looks. Similar to my feelings when I saw X and Y for the first time I know Pokemon can look better and this cell phone-quality graphics are off-putting especially on a system that can pull off Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action ļ»æAgainst ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
I can see why Nintendo is doing this but frankly I don't care. Nintendo has made 0 effort to bring back old games on the eshop or bringing back VC instead giving us overpriced rom machines that look like the old systems but dont offer space for physical playback of genuine carts or a store for more games. Plus how long have they been jerking us around about Mother 3?
Ya know what, screw them. I played just about every old school Nintendo game I missed out on for free and played and beaten Mother 3 and I didn't pay a dime. Nintendo didn't give me an option so I made one.
Until Nintendo actually decides to be pro consumer in regards to their older titles I'm happy as can be downloading ROMs.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Direct Livestream Coming This Wednesday
I'm hoping for a return of solid single player options like adventure mode and a more traditional classic as the single player for Wii u was really bad and all star mode is way too tedious to play through now given the large roster.
I'm hoping for a major surprise or two given they spent so much time during e3 talking about it I'm hoping they have more to show instead of "Roy's hair now has more texture than ever before."
The big sticking point to me is online as not being able to play stock matches with randoms and no voice chat options bugs me. The netcode on smash has always been rather mediocre if I'm being kind so I'm hoping for a big upgrade on that front.
Re: Feature: Talking Super Smash Bros. Ultimate With Nintendo's Bill Trinen And Nate Bihldorff
I like Smash a lot but as far as hearing about it all the time I could do without. I haven't been "edge of my seat," excited since the days of Smash Dojo giving out little tidbits of information every day leading up to Brawl's launch. It's nice to hear about mechanical changes but to dedicate nearly 1/2 your e3 runtime to Smash was too much, a lot of it bored the hell out of me.
Personally every time I see new Smash news I just think to myself, "Yeah, this is like their only big game this year and it comes out in December... It's July."
Re: Review: Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Switch)
I feel like they should have included the 3d world levels and the new levels as well. Kind of cheapens the additions when they came at a cost of something else being omitted.
Re: Nintendo Is Considering A Successor To The 3DS According To Its New President
They're barely pumping out enough games for the Switch and they want to divide their game development teams in two more or less?
Switch is a powerful handheld but pretty mediocre as a home console if I can be candid and coming out with a 3ds successor would really kill the point of the switch. "You can play it on your TV." Is a neat novelty but that appeal would be cannibalized if they release something comparable in strength to the switch for cheaper as a handheld only device. For 300 bucks the switch costs maybe 180 to build and it comes with an 80 dollar dock and 80 dollar controllers so taking those out you can theoretically come out with something comparable but 100 dollars cheaper.
Re: Talking Point: What Were The Biggest Highs And Lows From E3 2018?
I have to say Smash is definitely not the kind of game you want to spend nearly all your e3 on. Out of the 45 minutes of the direct 25 was Smash and most of that was talking about minuscule changes here and there. It's nice to have a game celebrating the franchise but Smash has more or less been the same basic game and seeing the same footage more or less over and over for 3 days got old quickly.
Pokemon Let's Go looks like an ok game but for 60 bucks I wish the graphics were better. For a system stronger than the Wii U the Switch is barely sweating it here. It looks like a cell phone game that Nintendo moved to Switch to charge 60 bucks for. Honestly I've never thought the pokemon franchise on handheld had great graphics (I still find the 3ds ones a little on the ugly side) but this just seems like minimal effort.
Mario Party looks decent but there hasn't been a good one in a decade so it's hard to get my up.
It's really hard to hype up third party stuff when a lot of it has been available on other consoles and I think this is where Nintendo needs to improve the most. Stuff like Hollow Knight, Wolfenstein and Dragon Ball Z fighters is great but how about getting it at the same time as everyone else. Most people own another console since Nintendo no longer can be the only console someone owns and most people will have already played these titles leading to the "droughts" everyone is bringing up.
Honestly Nintendo hasn't had a good e3 in a long time and I can't tell what their strategy is anymore. Seems like they aren't making games nearly as fast and haven't been actively courting third parties as we were once led to believe.
Also if Fortnite can use the headphone jack for voice chat why the actual fudge does splatoon need that dumb app? Nintendo online service launches soon and even at 20 bucks it seems too high because yeah it's cheap but it's also crap.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Is Unveiled For Switch, Every Previous Character Returns
Ultimate fan service? This was a Smash direct in the guise of being a direct for other games. We have dlc and ports til smash arrives in December... itās June.
Nintendo is dropping the ball big time with the Switch right now and this direct had echoes of Wii U in the whole āthis year kind of sucked but next year... will also suck but you donāt know that yet.ā
Always waiting Nintendo, always waiting.
Re: Don't Forget, Nintendo Direct: E3 2018 Will Kick Off At 5pm BST On 12th June
Maybe I've become jaded after years of disappointment that was the Wii U (the echoes of "E3 wasn't great but wait til next year" are burned into my soul) I can't say I get hyped over Nintendo E3 anymore. I will say I found 2018 mostly disappointing for Switch thus far and frankly I feel they needed more non ports as I had a Wii U and wasn't interested in double dipping especially given they are charging more now then they did then.
My hopes are for a killer E3 with more information on Yoshi and Pokemon and of course next year's Pokemon as well. I'd like smash to have a single player again like in melee and I'd like at least one Mario tier surprise (Mario kart 9?) But I've learned over the years to set the bar super low and when Nintendo fails to meet even that just "wait til next year." It's hard to get excited anymore when the big stuff leaks and the surprises more often than not turn into bastardization of loved franchises (paper Mario, star fox).
Since I've been all pessimist lemme go one step beyond and hope Nintendo one day goes back to stage shows. The direct is ok but the treehouses are way too long for their own good.
Re: Talking Point: Does Sega's AGES Announcement Mean The Virtual Console Is Dead?
I've always preferred using ROMs and emulators to play games legality be damned. Nintendo charges nearly 10 bucks for Earthbound and refuses to give us Mother 3 so whatever, within 20 minutes I was playing both on my computer with no issues.
I don't mind paying for VC when it's available but for glorified ROMs they were overpriced and the release schedule was ass. Tons of classic games never saw the light of day.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Considers "Nintendo Switch Pro" With NVIDIA Tegra 2 Processor
Switch at this point is pretty much maxed out in what it can do and the fact it isn't getting AAA ports at the same time as other consoles because of the need for massive tweaks a la Doom is a bit telling the system isn't really powerful enough. As a handheld it's great but when trying to use it at home it's basically just a Wii U all over again. Anything more ambitious than Mario Odyssey (which looks great mind you) and you see the Switch hit a wall. BOTW still doesn't have the best of framerates even now and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has the same issues and is pretty bad in handheld-only mode in terms of performance/graphics. So a revision would make sense. Maybe not this early but next year I can see it.
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo's Riding High On Switch's Wave, But What Does It Need To Do To Stay There?
Switch is in a weird place. The third party support is disappointing if I'm being blunt as I really don't care enough about portability to justify paying full retail price for games that are upwards of 5 years old. The Switch has Doom as the lone AAA multiplat and given it was gimped to hell to even get working is concerning for future Switch multiplatform releases. Exclusive third party stuff is the way to go but outside of Bayonetta there isn't much on that front.
First party games are going to be the bread and butter but Switch in 2018 is look pretty light. 2019 is when Pokemon and Metroid will likely come out but 2018 is looking barren as Kirby and Yoshi, while fun aren't experiences you are going to keep coming back to long after you complete it.
Online on Switch right now is bare minimum and still isn't as good as Xbox Live was... in 2005, so color me a skeptic but I have 0 faith it won't still be crap when we get to pay for the privilege of still using friend codes for online and no voice chat unless we use the app.
Re: Nintendo Reiterates That It's Not Interested In Virtual Reality Or 4K Support
How about a working on a system that can actually get to 1080p before talking about 4k.
I like Nintendo but their stubbornness to embrace new technology (their online multiplayer is still mediocre imo) is infuriating.
Re: Feature: Here's What Was Announced During The January 2018 Nintendo Direct Mini
As someone who owned the Wii U I really don't want to double dip on tropical freeze. Mario Tennis looks interesting.
Third party support I'll admit I'm disappointed by. Old ports aren't exactly exciting especially given I don't take my switch on the go. Would be nice to see more current generation titles I haven't had the opportunity to play before on the switch.
Kirby looks amazing, but Kirby always delivers.
Hope for another direct in a month or two so we can see the big first party titles for the switch this year. Would like to see if Metroid or Pokemon can make 2018 ( I doubt it) and I'd love to see more of Yoshi.
Re: Switch Set To Overtake Wii U In Japan After Less Than A Year On Sale
Nintendo gave up on the Wii U after its first year. Wii U got maybe 4-5 high profile releases a year but had next to no third party support so there would be long stretches of time with nothing new to play for the damn thing.
Personally I think the Wii U was Nintendo's worst console they've ever made (that lasted a full console cycle anyway) and am happy to see the Switch, which I wouldn't call a technical marvel or anything but it's clear Nintendo actually tried with this thing, succeed.
Re: DLC Review: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - The Champions' Ballad + Expansion Pass
As someone who was hoping for a decent story after two dlc packs I'm still underwhelmed that it's more of the same.
Re: Music: Secret of Mana Tribute Album "Resonance Of The Pure Land" Released
Music sounds great, too bad the remake looks like a cell phone game. No mouth animation during cutscenes and the animation itself seems wonky. I just don't see how real effort was put into a remake of a game of Secret of Mana's caliber when the end result looks like it does.
Re: Talking Point: The Dust Settles on a Giddy Retail Period for Nintendo Switch - What's Next?
My question is if Nintendo put too many heavy hitters in the first year of its life and 2018 is going to suffer for it. Kirby is nice but it's not exactly Mario tier. Pokemon and Metroid announcements were nice but realistically they'll be late 2018 or early 2019 at the absolute earliest so we have large chunks of 2018 unaccounted for.
Call me jaded but the third party support, while infinitely better than Wii u, is still on the bad side of ok. Old ports at full price? Gee, thanks.
Re: Don't Hold Your Breath For Monster Hunter: World On Switch
So many Monster Hunter fans are bitter Capcom is trying something different. "But, it's a handheld experience, blah, blah, blah," as if this still won't sell gangbusters. Sure it's nice to play Monster Hunter on the go but so is playing one that doesn't look like a ps2 game. Give World a chance.
Re: Anniversary: It's Been 10 Years Since Super Mario Galaxy Landed On The Wii
From a purely visual standpoint I prefer Galaxy, it feels more like a Mario game to me. A lot of Odysseys levels are too "realistic" for my taste.
That said I will still say Galaxy is the better game. The stars feel much more rewarding to find. In Odyssey you can sneeze and find 2 or more power moons. They're are just too many of them to have them all be interesting to obtain, hence I prefer the stars of Galaxy.
Re: Mario Party: The Top 100 Will Combine The Best Of The Series On 3DS
I don't know if I'd be willing to play Mario Party for just the mini games. The board section is half the appeal for me and I'm sad to see it omitted. Mario Party hasn't been good for a long time and I don't get why Nintendo can't just make a game like Mario Party 1-4 without needlessly altering the core of what makes a Mario Party, for lack of a better term, Mario Party.
Re: Guide: How To Invite Friends And Use Voice Chat On The Nintendo Switch Online App
Not really sure why this stuff can't be implemented on the system level like every other console not made by Nintendo. Needless switching between app and system and for a console that is meant to be taken on the go as well as at home just makes it much worse.
I eagerly look forward to paying for online that isn't even on par with the original xbox.
I've let up on Nintendo lately as the games for the Switch are definitely pretty good (not great, but satisfactory for year one) but I cannot let this crap online slide.
Re: Review: Splatoon 2 (Switch)
I still find Nintendo's approach to online questionable at best. The map rotation system, while thankfully not as bad, is still a big black eye when compared to more modern games in a similar genre. For an online-focused title I find it exceptionally jarring that Nintendo is placing such restrictions on it. Voice chat is finally here but once again Nintendo takes the ass-backwards approach by making us use an app for that which seems counter intuitive for a system meant to be taken on the go as well as played at home.
10/10 review is surprising but hardly shocking on a Nintendo site but I do wish reviewers would start calling Nintendo out on their lackluster online. They may have listened to the fans with the items but the online has barely been improved and for 2017 frankly that isn't good enough.
I understand Nintendo fans may not mind too much but sadly it's because they've become accustomed to less. As a longtime Nintendo fan I wish Nintendo would start embracing online.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online App to Launch on 21st July Alongside SplatNet 2
Nintendo is basically tone deaf when it comes to online and the fact they eventually want to start charging for a service that is marginally better than the Wii U's poor service is rather disappointing. Pricing notwithstanding it's a shame we can't have online that rivals something the original Xbox had. Using an app for services is no better than hopping on Skype to chat with friends like I used to do with the Wii and Wii U.
While Splatoon 2 is certainly going to be amazing Nintendo's restrictions on maps/modes and even times we can play Salmon Run online are ridiculous. Get with the times Nintendo. Or at least get with 2005
Re: Video: Performance Over Resolution - Digital Foundry Tackles Super Mario Odyssey
Look, I applaud Nintendo's development teams for making outstanding games but I gotta say. 1080p/60 fps should be pretty close to the norm for 2017. While we are looking at the competition working on 4k consoles we're supposed to be content with a supposed "home console you can take with you," is hitting 720p with some frame rate dips even with zero AA. I'm sure it'll be optimized more for launch but sometimes I feel like you have to call out Nintendo for not going with a little more horsepower for the Switch. Third party support is still terrible and mediocre hardware is part of the reason why.
Rant aside Mario Odyssey looks really good. But once again I won't call it impressive that a game that looks about as good as any Wii U title running at 60 fps is some technical prowess given the sacrifices are still being made to compensate.
Re: Thank Samus, Metroid Prime 4 Has Been Confirmed For Nintendo Switch
Announcements with zero pictures or footage is indicative of a long development cycle ahead so I'm thinking 2019 at the earliest. Outside the "Holy crap it's coming," there's not much to build hype as it's a year at the earliest before we see any footage.
Maybe I'm just hard to please but this is akin to a name drop and nothing more.
Re: Talking Point: Five Key Areas Nintendo Must Get Right at E3 2017
I don't think major third party support is ever coming to this thing so the key would be a steady stream of Nintendo franchises and some smaller third party stuff. I'm hoping they stay true to their word about having lots to go over as in years passed they've made similar promises and failed to deliver. Even those great directs from the past in terms of how they were presented were often light on content so I'm hoping they have the goods... Although it's pretty clear the Switch launched anywhere from 6 months to a year before it was truly ready so I'm treating this year as a glorified beta.
Re: Editorial: The Nintendo Switch, E3 and Its Opportunities for Quick Wins
Still immensely disappointing. I recall the first E3 after the Wii U launched was light on content and while we were assured "The games would come," they never really did. While not their usual MO it would benefit Nintendo to showcase at least a little into 2018 and show that the Switch will be getting more than the Wii U ever did given the third party situation is more or less the same in terms of retail releases.
I would like one more surprise at E3 of at least a b or c tier franchise, the arrival of Pokken does nothing for me and the summer is looking light on games so I'd love to see confirmation of another game that'll bridge us to Odyssey in the winter time.
Re: Video: Nintendo Makes Pitch for the 'Switch Summer' of Major Releases
@westman98 There online still sucks something fierce. Voice chat being provided on an app is ass backwards not to mention the total lack of VC at this time. Plus Splatoon 2 is keeping the map rotation system which is trash. Just let us pick the mode we want to play and then vote on the map like any other fps.
As for the summer releases I didn't dig Arms, it's fun but not $60 fun. Splatoon 2 is really the only "must have" for the summer as Pokken wasn't really all that great. Even if you dig all those games 3 games in 4 months is still pretty sparse and I would've hoped Nintendo would've gotten more games available even on the eshop considering they let the Wii U wither for 2 years.
Re: Guide: A Nintendo Fan's Breakdown of E3 2017's Press Conferences and Events
I remember the drip feed method for the Wii U which had many people wondering when the games were going to come and they never really did with any real frequency. The Switch had a solid launch but they need to have a far better release schedule than the Wii U so I think this E3 is important to showcase they learned from the Wii U.
Online is something I'd like addressed as well as it's marginally better than what the Wii U offered and I sure don't want to pay for something where voice and party chat aren't even options. Even through an app is an ass backwards workaround. Nintendo has been very late to the online party it'd be nice if they could at least offer a comparable service.
As for games I'm hoping Xenoblade 2 makes it this year. X was ok but I preferred Chronicles.
Re: ARMS Will Adopt the Splatoon Model of Free Content Updates
Splatoon launched half finished so I really hate it being used as a comparison here. ARMs actually looks fully fledged at launch and the dlc is just a bonus.
Re: Talking Point: ARMS Has Plenty to Prove In Its Nintendo Direct
Really just needs confirmation of single player modes and at least 12-16 fully fledged characters plus at least the same number of battle arenas.
I think this game could be really good but I need the content to be there to warrant paying full price.
Re: The Maps Offered In Splatoon 2 Will Rotate More Frequently
So Nintendo wants us to pay to play online now but isn't going to bother to make their online any better? What a joke.