130 Mio. Seems tough. Hasn't happened since the DS. And not since the PS2 for homeconsoles. 70 Mio. Would still be a resounding success. Especially when you look at the trajectory Nintendos homeconsoles had, except for the Wii.
Why do they bring the stability to a inevitably dying system? Who cares about 3DS?!? They should port the stability to Switch or else im done with Nintendo!
@Cartune I'm actually okay with the gifts being useless. That way WiiU players who feel disadvantaged by this can calm down. There were actually a lot of people unhappy that this would be Switch exclusive.
@Tibob it is a vicious cycle, as already described in this article.
Going cheaper for digital could possibly bring its own problems. If you sell it for less digitally, why bother with a physical copy at all? If there's not a physical copy, and that would have to happen a lot, we could have another PSP Go situation where retailers wouldn't even sell the hardware. And I don't know how other people see it but I always prefer physical over digital.
@Tibob Sure, I give you that regarding the Street Fighter II thing. That was just a cash grab, releasing the 700th version of a game that's probably older than their target audience. What im talking about are more the games that are released in multiple platforms like LA Noire will be. Or new games.
And yes, the seller is responsible for making the product attractive to us consumers.
But if it is, we will have to accept that some games may be a bit more expensive than on other platforms right now. And that's not the fault of the 3rd parties. They exist to make money. And I can also understand that they aren't willing to accept a smaller profit margin when the consumer base isn't that big yet.
@Tibob Business does indeed work that way. If you put money into it, you have to make money back. And that only happens if consumers buy your products. That's how it goes. If they don't you can't cover production costs. If you can't cover production costs you can't afford to support a (for now) unproven platform like the Switch. And a few people who buy it in a year or two just doesn't cut it. That would be a big time loss. Big Budget Games work in a similar way how movies do. The big money is made in the first few weeks when people are talking about it, or possibly even buzzing about it when the product is really good. Later on, a few will buy the game/see the movie but that's peanuts compared to what is made initially. So when you want to wait until the price drops, you can just go ahead and don't buy it at all. It won't matter. That's nothing that developed since indie studios became more common. That's a fact. That's how business in the entertainment industry is done.
I'm kinda wondering why a site that's dedicated to the big N would even consider writing remotely positively about the violation of Nintendos intellectual property.
And why would I care as a fan about a project like that? There are only a few possibilities. Either it is terrible and could hurt the brand for people who are not too familiar with it or it's actually good and Nintendo won't do a proper version because it has already been done. Overall I'm absolutely against such things. Because it is not theirs to mess around with. When I create something I don't want others to do with it how they see fit either.
@Tibob then you clearly have no idea how business works. And that's fine. But don't start complaining when the Switch fails to attract 3rd party developers.
@Tibob sadly, the message would be that the game doesn't sell. Similar to the movie business, it's the first few weeks that count. Everything else doesn't really matter. If a game doesn't sell initially on Switch, there will be 3rd parties that will rethink if they want to put another game on that console.
@FTPinkRabbit since I always turn off my Switch, I never encounterd said problems but it is well documented on the internet. If you leave it in sleep mode for longer periods of time, it may start acting up. Things like reacting slowly to input or like someone else replied to me, not getting out of the game anymore.
@FTPinkRabbit I think it doesn't consume much power. But that's not why I want that feature. In the case of the Switch it just starts not working properly. And that's probably not that good for the game or the system. So I want to avoid putting it to sleep mode for too long.
@SomeWriter13 I was so excited for Warcraft. But in the end Durotan and Doomhammer were the only characters I cared about... And we all know what happened.
@JAAcebal that's just sleep mode. You can actually turn it off, if you press the on/off button on top of it for a few seconds. THAT'S what I'm talking about.
@FTPinkRabbit yeah, exactly. But it appears some people had some issues after their Switch was in rest/sleep mode for longer periods of time. I think it's not too much to ask and probably not a lot of work to implement it.
@SanderEvers fair enough. But I have to work and sleep and I prefer my consoles to be turned off when I'm not using them. Not a big fan of sleep mode when it comes to my gaming devices.
One little update that can't come soon enough: being able to turn off the console from the main menu instead of pressing the on/off button for an eternity. Or did I miss another way?
@SomeWriter13 yeah, I that's what I said too. Sometimes, pretty often actually people think they got something great on their hands, everyone involved is excited about it but then it turns out to be such a big pile of crap like Warcraft.
Sure "just make it good" probably was intended to say more than that but I reject saying it at all for the reasons I already mentioned. Just because you shouldn't see things only from a consumer or business standpoint. I want Mega Man to be good, but I'm not lighting my torch if it doesn't, you know?
@NintenNinja16 I also hope it turns out good! As a frequent moviegoer (at least once a week) I've seen my fair share of crap that I wanted to be good. It's a step in the right direction if the people behind this movie are as big fans of the property as it's stated.
@NintenNinja16 im not a fan of the "just make it good." sentiment. Making movies is incredibly hard. Making a good movie is even harder. It's not like people usually go out and say "I'm gonna make a poopy movie today!"
@Hillis actually you couldn't peep on people since invisibility would be impossible without being blind. You need light hit your eyes to see things. And when you're invisible, that doesn't happen.
Can't help but to be happy about that. All those people obsessed with Marina and hating on Pearl deserve that. It's so weird that they get so worked up because of them. I'm glad that I think they're equally annoying so I don't care who's on what side.
Sadly I'm most of the time not into indies. Especially the 8-bit ones. I'm sick of all that retro stuff that depends on nostalgia. It has been done to death.
If this would come out in the west, I'd think about getting it instead of World. But since I don't believe it will, I'll wait for World and after that I won't need XX.
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Re: Rumour: Data Miners Find Evidence of Pokémon Crystal in the Gold and Silver VC Releases
I hate data miners. How are we supposed to be surprised by anything these days when they spoil it for everyone?
Re: Random: Just Because You Can Mash-Up Zelda And GTA Doesn't Mean You Should
But... Why?
Re: The First Hat Wearing Pikachu Giveaway Has Started in Pokémon Sun and Moon
@w00dm4n I know, I played through Sun. Just didn't play Moon yet.
Re: Nintendo's Latest Zelda: Breath of the Wild Gift May Make You a Bit Crabby
Wii U owners should be able to bitch about these useless items, too!
Re: The First Hat Wearing Pikachu Giveaway Has Started in Pokémon Sun and Moon
Guess I'm in luck. Never started my journey on my Moon copy. So now I can get them all.
Re: Hyperkin Shows Off Working Version Of Its Supa Retron HD SNES Clone
Not interested since I don't have any of the games in physical Form anymore.
Re: Credit Suisse Forecasts 130 Million Nintendo Switch Sales By 2022
130 Mio. Seems tough. Hasn't happened since the DS. And not since the PS2 for homeconsoles. 70 Mio. Would still be a resounding success. Especially when you look at the trajectory Nintendos homeconsoles had, except for the Wii.
Re: 3DS OS Version 11.6.0-39 Is Now Available for Download
Why do they bring the stability to a inevitably dying system? Who cares about 3DS?!? They should port the stability to Switch or else im done with Nintendo!
Re: Nintendo Has a Few Titles in NPD’s Top-Selling Games List
@NinNin yeah, and it is in the Charts.
Re: Nintendo Has a Few Titles in NPD’s Top-Selling Games List
@Agramonte there was no 3rd party game that could have been in the Charts for August. Mario + Rabbids will probably be counted for September.
Re: Nintendo Has a Few Titles in NPD’s Top-Selling Games List
@Kalmaro he meant in the Charts.
Re: Zelda: Breath of the Wild's 'Champions' amiibo Get a Release Date
Can't wait for these. I'm just waiting to pre-order them.
Re: Zelda: Breath of the Wild's 'Champions' amiibo Get a Release Date
@MoonKnight7 ha, nice one!
Re: Nintendo Wants You to Hit the Slopes in Latest Zelda: Breath of the Wild Free Gift
@Cartune I'm actually okay with the gifts being useless. That way WiiU players who feel disadvantaged by this can calm down. There were actually a lot of people unhappy that this would be Switch exclusive.
Re: Nintendo Wants You to Hit the Slopes in Latest Zelda: Breath of the Wild Free Gift
@jswhitfield8 gotta demand that sweet, sweet loot.
Re: Nintendo Wants You to Hit the Slopes in Latest Zelda: Breath of the Wild Free Gift
I'm wondering where those people are that were complaining that they don't get these goodies on WiiU.
Re: Feature: Exploring The "Switch Tax" And Why Nintendo Was Right to Use Game Cards
@Tibob it is a vicious cycle, as already described in this article.
Going cheaper for digital could possibly bring its own problems. If you sell it for less digitally, why bother with a physical copy at all? If there's not a physical copy, and that would have to happen a lot, we could have another PSP Go situation where retailers wouldn't even sell the hardware. And I don't know how other people see it but I always prefer physical over digital.
Re: Feature: Exploring The "Switch Tax" And Why Nintendo Was Right to Use Game Cards
@Tibob Sure, I give you that regarding the Street Fighter II thing. That was just a cash grab, releasing the 700th version of a game that's probably older than their target audience. What im talking about are more the games that are released in multiple platforms like LA Noire will be. Or new games.
And yes, the seller is responsible for making the product attractive to us consumers.
But if it is, we will have to accept that some games may be a bit more expensive than on other platforms right now. And that's not the fault of the 3rd parties. They exist to make money. And I can also understand that they aren't willing to accept a smaller profit margin when the consumer base isn't that big yet.
Re: Feature: Exploring The "Switch Tax" And Why Nintendo Was Right to Use Game Cards
@Tibob Business does indeed work that way. If you put money into it, you have to make money back. And that only happens if consumers buy your products. That's how it goes. If they don't you can't cover production costs. If you can't cover production costs you can't afford to support a (for now) unproven platform like the Switch. And a few people who buy it in a year or two just doesn't cut it. That would be a big time loss. Big Budget Games work in a similar way how movies do. The big money is made in the first few weeks when people are talking about it, or possibly even buzzing about it when the product is really good. Later on, a few will buy the game/see the movie but that's peanuts compared to what is made initially. So when you want to wait until the price drops, you can just go ahead and don't buy it at all. It won't matter. That's nothing that developed since indie studios became more common. That's a fact. That's how business in the entertainment industry is done.
Re: Fan-Made 'Super Mario 64 Online' Released
I'm kinda wondering why a site that's dedicated to the big N would even consider writing remotely positively about the violation of Nintendos intellectual property.
And why would I care as a fan about a project like that? There are only a few possibilities. Either it is terrible and could hurt the brand for people who are not too familiar with it or it's actually good and Nintendo won't do a proper version because it has already been done. Overall I'm absolutely against such things. Because it is not theirs to mess around with. When I create something I don't want others to do with it how they see fit either.
Re: Feature: Exploring The "Switch Tax" And Why Nintendo Was Right to Use Game Cards
@Tibob then you clearly have no idea how business works. And that's fine. But don't start complaining when the Switch fails to attract 3rd party developers.
Re: Virtuos Emerges as the Developer Working on the L.A. Noire Port
You probably meant Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age.
Re: Feature: Exploring The "Switch Tax" And Why Nintendo Was Right to Use Game Cards
@Tibob sadly, the message would be that the game doesn't sell. Similar to the movie business, it's the first few weeks that count. Everything else doesn't really matter. If a game doesn't sell initially on Switch, there will be 3rd parties that will rethink if they want to put another game on that console.
Re: Reggie Wary Of Making Any Promises On Switch Stock This Christmas
Man, my forearms are thicker than the thighs of that woman on the left in that picture.
Re: Nintendo Switch OS Version 3.0.2 Is Now Live
@FTPinkRabbit since I always turn off my Switch, I never encounterd said problems but it is well documented on the internet. If you leave it in sleep mode for longer periods of time, it may start acting up. Things like reacting slowly to input or like someone else replied to me, not getting out of the game anymore.
Re: Review: Rayman Legends: Definitive Edition (Switch)
Sweet reference in the subtitle!
Re: PowerA Is Releasing Mario And Zelda Themed Switch Controllers
@OorWullie no, they actually didn't. They changed it and then only patented it.
Re: Nintendo Switch OS Version 3.0.2 Is Now Live
@FTPinkRabbit I think it doesn't consume much power. But that's not why I want that feature. In the case of the Switch it just starts not working properly. And that's probably not that good for the game or the system. So I want to avoid putting it to sleep mode for too long.
Re: The Mega Man Movie Has Begun the Early Stages of Production
@SomeWriter13 I was so excited for Warcraft. But in the end Durotan and Doomhammer were the only characters I cared about... And we all know what happened.
Re: Nintendo Switch OS Version 3.0.2 Is Now Live
@JAAcebal that's just sleep mode. You can actually turn it off, if you press the on/off button on top of it for a few seconds. THAT'S what I'm talking about.
Re: Nintendo Switch OS Version 3.0.2 Is Now Live
@FTPinkRabbit yeah, exactly. But it appears some people had some issues after their Switch was in rest/sleep mode for longer periods of time. I think it's not too much to ask and probably not a lot of work to implement it.
Re: Nintendo Switch OS Version 3.0.2 Is Now Live
@SanderEvers fair enough.
But I have to work and sleep and I prefer my consoles to be turned off when I'm not using them. Not a big fan of sleep mode when it comes to my gaming devices.
Re: Nintendo Switch OS Version 3.0.2 Is Now Live
One little update that can't come soon enough: being able to turn off the console from the main menu instead of pressing the on/off button for an eternity. Or did I miss another way?
Re: The Mega Man Movie Has Begun the Early Stages of Production
@SomeWriter13 yeah, I that's what I said too. Sometimes, pretty often actually people think they got something great on their hands, everyone involved is excited about it but then it turns out to be such a big pile of crap like Warcraft.
Sure "just make it good" probably was intended to say more than that but I reject saying it at all for the reasons I already mentioned. Just because you shouldn't see things only from a consumer or business standpoint. I want Mega Man to be good, but I'm not lighting my torch if it doesn't, you know?
Re: The Mega Man Movie Has Begun the Early Stages of Production
@NintenNinja16 I also hope it turns out good! As a frequent moviegoer (at least once a week) I've seen my fair share of crap that I wanted to be good. It's a step in the right direction if the people behind this movie are as big fans of the property as it's stated.
Re: Switch's Latest Exclusive Is Based On A German Quiz Show
If you miss out on this one, don't worry. It's not worth a cent. These games, there were some for the Wii too, are the definition of shovelware.
Re: The Mega Man Movie Has Begun the Early Stages of Production
@SomeWriter13 that still doesn't change what I originally said.
Re: The Mega Man Movie Has Begun the Early Stages of Production
@NintenNinja16 im not a fan of the "just make it good." sentiment. Making movies is incredibly hard. Making a good movie is even harder. It's not like people usually go out and say "I'm gonna make a poopy movie today!"
Re: As Switch Hits 1.5 Million Sold In Japan, Data Shows How It Dominates PS4 Right Now
Random NX joke.
Re: Super Mario Odyssey amiibo Packaging Reveals Three New Kingdoms
Pre-ordered the 3-pack. Can't wait.
Re: Super Mario Odyssey amiibo Packaging Reveals Three New Kingdoms
@LegacySmikey you probably missed them then. They're all available on Amazon Germany though.
Re: Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle Misses Out on Top Spot in UK Charts
Well, it's understandable. Uncharted is a proven franchise and the PS4 has way more potential buyers.
Re: Flight Triumphs Over Invisibility in the Splatoon 2 Splatfest
@Hillis actually you couldn't peep on people since invisibility would be impossible without being blind. You need light hit your eyes to see things. And when you're invisible, that doesn't happen.
Re: CIRCLE Entertainment and Flyhigh Works Confirm Impressive Line-Up of Switch Titles
Totally forgot that TGS is still coming. Maybe we get some news on those unannounced games that were teased back in July.
Re: Flight Triumphs Over Invisibility in the Splatoon 2 Splatfest
Can't help but to be happy about that. All those people obsessed with Marina and hating on Pearl deserve that. It's so weird that they get so worked up because of them. I'm glad that I think they're equally annoying so I don't care who's on what side.
Re: Mario And Link Themed Micro SD Cards Are On The Way For Your Switch
What a cash grab.
Re: Build Your Switch eShop Hype With This Nindies Summer Sizzle Reel
Sadly I'm most of the time not into indies. Especially the 8-bit ones. I'm sick of all that retro stuff that depends on nostalgia. It has been done to death.
Re: Celebrate The 30th Anniversary Of Street Fighter With This Pricey SNES Cart
Street Fighter II is the best counter argument for people who complain about the various versions of Skyrim.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Climb Again as Monster Hunter XX Arrives in Japan
@Tibob I don't think that's the whole reason. All sales for consoles dropped around that time.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Climb Again as Monster Hunter XX Arrives in Japan
If this would come out in the west, I'd think about getting it instead of World. But since I don't believe it will, I'll wait for World and after that I won't need XX.