@obijuankanoobie I never got any Zelda vibes from this game really tbh. it's a puzzle game with gameplay timing elements built in. bad call saying it's Zelda just cos the main character sprite is Zeldaish and puzzles set in a dungegon. for zelda like games not dark lol Oceanhorn. but Death's Door, Crosscode, Eastward are better.
Probably need to free up some cash for that Neom fiasco that was supposed to be a 170 km long and 500m wide city in the desert. (now scaled back to 2km)
@Arawn93 "Pocketpair also reports that Nintendo is seeking an injunction against Palworld, which would halt sales of the game until infringing mechanics are removed. Considering that the patents Nintendo is asserting seem to cover some of Palworld's basic mechanics, removing and replacing them seems like it would take a lot of work." the 66k is a smokescreen.
@HeadPirate Great. The biggest third party success ever on Gamepass "doesn't count" was getting tiring in the extreme. And I'm sure that "Palworld Entertainment" "doesn't count" either for Nintendo's actions. Neither of which are remotely true of course.
@HeadPirate All games have massive drop off rates 10 months after release- that's no mic drop- the average playtime per user is 50 hours - it's not as if the average buyer didn't play the absolute hell out of it lol.
Forget your your obfuscation micro-focus on Gamepass -> 20 million sales on Steam Alone. 20 million is a huge result. Now Sony have joined up with them to create "Palworld Entertainment " to capitalise on the breakout success. Getting Nintendo's panties in a further twist.
@HeadPirate Gamepass is not at no cost. It's $120 a year. Microsoft cuts deals with developers who get hard cash based on the deal. The 10 million Xbox user figure is a combination of Gamepass users and sales and that was back in February so who knows what additional sales have come in since then. Microsoft has said that Palworld is the most successful 3rd party Gamepass game of all time. Plus over 20 million unit sales on Steam also as of 30 Sep 2024 from Video Game Insights with an average playtime of 50 hours on Steam and 94% positive reviews! Plus whatever Playstation brings when figures come in. It has been a massive success on both Steam and Xbox. That is absolutely undeniable. https://x.com/VG_Insights/status/1846827236797665552
@BTB20 15 million players on steam, 10 million players on xbox, how many more million will we have on PlayStation? No misinformation there. I hope Nintendo lose this so hard because bringing a court case partly on the basis of throwing a ball to capture a creature is flocking ridiculous and would set a precedent to stifle games development.
@Dr_Lugae I wasn't referring to revenue but unit sales. As of February 2024 Palworld had 15m sales on Steam, 10 million users on Xbox across sales and Gamepass (devs do a Gamepass sales deal like film media do on Netflix so they get hard cash based on users playing, Palworld is the most popular 3rd party game in Gamepass history which is not exactly shabby). Now just launched on PlayStation 5. Nintendo only got their panties in a twist because it was so successful.
@BTB20 I specifically said that Palworld was better and more successful than Pokemons recent products. Palworld is better and more successful with 25 million sales as of February 2024 across 2 platforms (so going to be higher than that now 9 months later) and has just launched on Playstation 1 month ago which is going to further up sales on that 65 million footprint platform so it has already exceeded any Nintendo pokemon release on the switch in unit sales. Nintendo felt threatened ONLY because it was so successful unlike the reams of other games with similar mechanics. As one analyst said: ""This lawsuit would have never happened if Palworld had 500 users per day on Steam," Toto says. "[Nintendo] would have said, 'ok, whatever, let's leave these guys alone; the game will die.'"
The elephant in the room is that Nintendo''s own Pokemon products have been poor for many years and Palworld was better and more successful. There have been lots of games with similar mechanics. Palworld's biggest "crime" compared to those other ones was to be successful.
@UsernameMayne so wait, we have Epstein jailed for his transgressions vs a man who molested and murdered his own 5 year old daughter in Saudi Arabia just able to pay the mother and get off scott free - yep. Pretty legit comparison there 2 legal systems.
@Pod sure but most analyst projections have Nintendo target share price with another 25% to 30% to go up. It's not like the Saudis only have this capital to play with so need to sell to buy other stuff.
@UsernameMayne Epstein was brought to justice though. Saudi Arabia is the place beheading (2023) its own subjects for being in a protest aged 17 while on the other hand in 2013 a man who molested and murdered his own 5 year old daughter was able to pay a monetary sum to the mother and avoid any prison. That is literally what is going on in their legal system.
@LEGEND_MARIOID I'm not surprised. There some really good games in that range. But they didn't have the Zelda/Mario "review excess" factor either did they?
86 on Metacritic - lower than Link's Awakening. Main issue seems to be that Zelda was traditionally an action adventure but that this is a PUZZLE-adventure (no combat for the most part effectively)
Patents huh? Ironic when "patently" Nintendo have had for many years had trouble producing a Pokemon game that that is anywhere near as fun as Palworld
@JesseJames23 it's hard at the start until you get upgrades. use a guide to find out where the health and burst upgrades are on each level - they are basically essential.
Seems to be getting pretty poor reviews elsewhere. consensus seems to be that other games just do it much better. (and that the hacking part is repetitive)
@eaglesfly76 the most important thing about the game is how the game is really. this is a 91% metacritic game so it's one of the best platformers released.
controls on the first one were "not great" at best even with the patch. gyro is just not up to it. don't really see how they can improve on that limitation here either...
@Josh_Hickory I totally agree. With the first one the controls were literally completely janky. I didn't get how some of the reviews were so strong. likewise here with NL giving the sequel an 8 - it has gotten a 5 from another site with them saying the controls ruin the sequel also.
I thought the controls were absolutely dire on the first one. regret it. read elsewhere that on the second one the fixed camera fixes some of that but creates new issues...
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Re: More Zelda-Like Puzzle Crawling Arrives On Switch This Month In 'Dungeons Of Dreadrock 2'
@obijuankanoobie I never got any Zelda vibes from this game really tbh. it's a puzzle game with gameplay timing elements built in. bad call saying it's Zelda just cos the main character sprite is Zeldaish and puzzles set in a dungegon. for zelda like games not dark lol Oceanhorn. but Death's Door, Crosscode, Eastward are better.
Re: More Zelda-Like Puzzle Crawling Arrives On Switch This Month In 'Dungeons Of Dreadrock 2'
First one was good but with room for improvement.
Re: Saudi Arabia's PIF Further Reduces Its Stake In Nintendo
Probably need to free up some cash for that Neom fiasco that was supposed to be a 170 km long and 500m wide city in the desert. (now scaled back to 2km)
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@Arawn93 "Pocketpair also reports that Nintendo is seeking an injunction against Palworld, which would halt sales of the game until infringing mechanics are removed. Considering that the patents Nintendo is asserting seem to cover some of Palworld's basic mechanics, removing and replacing them seems like it would take a lot of work." the 66k is a smokescreen.
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@HeadPirate Great. The biggest third party success ever on Gamepass "doesn't count" was getting tiring in the extreme. And I'm sure that "Palworld Entertainment" "doesn't count" either for Nintendo's actions. Neither of which are remotely true of course.
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@HeadPirate All games have massive drop off rates 10 months after release- that's no mic drop- the average playtime per user is 50 hours - it's not as if the average buyer didn't play the absolute hell out of it lol.
Forget your your obfuscation micro-focus on Gamepass -> 20 million sales on Steam Alone. 20 million is a huge result. Now Sony have joined up with them to create "Palworld Entertainment " to capitalise on the breakout success. Getting Nintendo's panties in a further twist.
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@HeadPirate Gamepass is not at no cost. It's $120 a year. Microsoft cuts deals with developers who get hard cash based on the deal. The 10 million Xbox user figure is a combination of Gamepass users and sales and that was back in February so who knows what additional sales have come in since then. Microsoft has said that Palworld is the most successful 3rd party Gamepass game of all time. Plus over 20 million unit sales on Steam also as of 30 Sep 2024 from Video Game Insights with an average playtime of 50 hours on Steam and 94% positive reviews! Plus whatever Playstation brings when figures come in. It has been a massive success on both Steam and Xbox. That is absolutely undeniable. https://x.com/VG_Insights/status/1846827236797665552
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@BTB20 15 million players on steam, 10 million players on xbox, how many more million will we have on PlayStation? No misinformation there. I hope Nintendo lose this so hard because bringing a court case partly on the basis of throwing a ball to capture a creature is flocking ridiculous and would set a precedent to stifle games development.
Re: Nintendo Has Seemingly Taken Possession Of The Ryujinx Switch Emulator Website
So it's still releasing on Github - how is that finished with then?
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@BTB20 yes it's the most successful 3rd party game on Gamepass of all time. More success that Nintendo got their panties in a twist about.
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@Dr_Lugae I wasn't referring to revenue but unit sales. As of February 2024 Palworld had 15m sales on Steam, 10 million users on Xbox across sales and Gamepass (devs do a Gamepass sales deal like film media do on Netflix so they get hard cash based on users playing, Palworld is the most popular 3rd party game in Gamepass history which is not exactly shabby). Now just launched on PlayStation 5. Nintendo only got their panties in a twist because it was so successful.
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
@BTB20 I specifically said that Palworld was better and more successful than Pokemons recent products. Palworld is better and more successful with 25 million sales as of February 2024 across 2 platforms (so going to be higher than that now 9 months later) and has just launched on Playstation 1 month ago which is going to further up sales on that 65 million footprint platform so it has already exceeded any Nintendo pokemon release on the switch in unit sales. Nintendo felt threatened ONLY because it was so successful unlike the reams of other games with similar mechanics. As one analyst said: ""This lawsuit would have never happened if Palworld had 500 users per day on Steam," Toto says. "[Nintendo] would have said, 'ok, whatever, let's leave these guys alone; the game will die.'"
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
The elephant in the room is that Nintendo''s own Pokemon products have been poor for many years and Palworld was better and more successful. There have been lots of games with similar mechanics. Palworld's biggest "crime" compared to those other ones was to be successful.
Re: Arcade Shoot 'Em Up 'Under Defeat' Blasts Onto Switch Next Month
@Teksetter On the other-hand is the Wolfenstein series a big seller in Germany?!
Re: Arcade Shoot 'Em Up 'Under Defeat' Blasts Onto Switch Next Month
@miwa dont't leave us hangin' ... what controversy?
Re: Mini Review: STALKER: Shadow Of Chornobyl (Switch) - Legendary Series Stalks Switch With A Solid Port
@Smackosynthesis CS generally considered the worst of the 3.
Re: Exclusive: Survival Horror RPG 'Chernobylite Complete Edition' Is Coming To Switch
one thing is that I find that the horror immersion factor of these games does not work on handheld.
Re: Bloodstained: Ritual Of The Night Update 1.6 Arriving On Switch Next Week
complete jank on switch. the -sequence with the dragon boss at the tower was like a frame-by-frame powerpoint.
Re: UK Charts: Zelda Falls From The Top Five As New Releases Shake Things Up
Echoes just not all that.
Re: Saudi Public Investment Fund Reduces Its Stake In Nintendo
@UsernameMayne so wait, we have Epstein jailed for his transgressions vs a man who molested and murdered his own 5 year old daughter in Saudi Arabia just able to pay the mother and get off scott free - yep. Pretty legit comparison there 2 legal systems.
Re: The Original 'Stalker' Trilogy Is Launching On Switch This Halloween
Never played any of these - they have a reputation for being sort of janky, no?
Re: Saudi Public Investment Fund Reduces Its Stake In Nintendo
@Pod sure but most analyst projections have Nintendo target share price with another 25% to 30% to go up. It's not like the Saudis only have this capital to play with so need to sell to buy other stuff.
Re: Saudi Public Investment Fund Reduces Its Stake In Nintendo
@Pod it's a good chunk of change but not even 1% of what they have in their sovereign wealth fund alone.
Re: Saudi Public Investment Fund Reduces Its Stake In Nintendo
@UsernameMayne Epstein was brought to justice though. Saudi Arabia is the place beheading (2023) its own subjects for being in a protest aged 17 while on the other hand in 2013 a man who molested and murdered his own 5 year old daughter was able to pay a monetary sum to the mother and avoid any prison. That is literally what is going on in their legal system.
Re: Saudi Public Investment Fund Considering Increasing Its Stake In Nintendo
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Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
Nintendo get annoyed that people like a game more than their crappy game. Well done Nintendo.
Re: Review: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom (Switch) - A Bold Blend Of Old & New That Ranks With The Series' Best
@Yoshi3 you just proved the point.
Re: Review: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom (Switch) - A Bold Blend Of Old & New That Ranks With The Series' Best
@LEGEND_MARIOID I'm not surprised. There some really good games in that range. But they didn't have the Zelda/Mario "review excess" factor either did they?
Re: Review: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom (Switch) - A Bold Blend Of Old & New That Ranks With The Series' Best
@LEGEND_MARIOID Lucky for you. But also it's the worst reviewed new Zelda game in over 30 years at least..
Re: Review: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom (Switch) - A Bold Blend Of Old & New That Ranks With The Series' Best
86 on Metacritic - lower than Link's Awakening. Main issue seems to be that Zelda was traditionally an action adventure but that this is a PUZZLE-adventure (no combat for the most part effectively)
Re: Nintendo And Pokémon File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer Pocketpair
Patents huh? Ironic when "patently" Nintendo have had for many years had trouble producing a Pokemon game that that is anywhere near as fun as Palworld
Re: Review: Elsie (Switch) - A Stunningly Presented Mega Man X-Esque Roguelite
@Neckcrane Gravity Circuit is the game that outdoes MegaMan imo. Not a roguelite / like but a super game.
Re: Gravity Circuit
@JesseJames23 it's hard at the start until you get upgrades. use a guide to find out where the health and burst upgrades are on each level - they are basically essential.
Re: Review: Yars Rising (Switch) - A Stylish, Ambitious Revival Of An Atari Classic In Metroidvania Form
Seems to be getting pretty poor reviews elsewhere. consensus seems to be that other games just do it much better. (and that the hacking part is repetitive)
Re: Talking Point: What Game Should Be 'Switch 2's 'Skyrim Moment'?
GTA V ran on an Xbox 360 so could run on a Switch 1
Re: UK Charts: Star Wars Outlaws Bags Number One While Emio Flounders
@larryisaman they are standalone stories. many people won't really take to the archaic mechanics and the demo can let them find that out!
Re: UK Charts: Star Wars Outlaws Bags Number One While Emio Flounders
@larryisaman there were two demos provided for this game. people didn't have to buy anything to try it for free.
Re: Retro-Inspired Pixel-Art Platformer 'BZZZT' Leaps Onto Switch Next Month
@eaglesfly76 I do agree that when I see the term "amazing pixel art" I do wince a bit but it never has been a clincher for me with a game tbh
Re: Retro-Inspired Pixel-Art Platformer 'BZZZT' Leaps Onto Switch Next Month
@eaglesfly76 the most important thing about the game is how the game is really. this is a 91% metacritic game so it's one of the best platformers released.
Re: Game Of Thrones Star Confirmed As In-Game Narrator For Civilization VII
how is this going to run on Switch I wonder given what looks like a big graphical upgrade?
Re: Dead Cells' Final Update Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
any tips on how to "get into this game"? have tried briefly a couple of times and failed.
Re: Crypt Custodian Is A Zelda-Like Metroidvania Where You Play As A Dead Cat
Tunic meets Death's Door in a fraught feline fantasy frolic?
Re: Review: Abathor (Switch) - Retro Fantasy Hack 'N' Slash Is Great Fun With Friends
Clunky movement is a deal-breaker in games like this imo
Re: Taito Milestones 3 For Switch Locks In Japanese Release, Here Are The 10 Games Included
@RobotReptile Bubble Bobble came out on arcade archives at the end of 2022
Re: Random: Hideo Kojima Highlights The 21st Anniversary Of 'Boktai' On GBA
I always thought that this was a dumb gimmick tbh
Re: Review: Hot Lap Racing (Switch) - An Enjoyable "Simcade" Racer That Still Falls Between Stools
Fast RMX still the racing king on Switch after all these years imo.
Re: House Of The Dead 2: Remake Gets Rated For Switch By The ESRB
@WaveBoy I have HOTD Overkill on the Wii. It's good and very playable using the sensor bar for sure!
Re: House Of The Dead 2: Remake Gets Rated For Switch By The ESRB
controls on the first one were "not great" at best even with the patch. gyro is just not up to it. don't really see how they can improve on that limitation here either...
Re: Review: Frogun Encore (Switch) - A Sure-Footed 3D Platforming Throwback
@Josh_Hickory I totally agree. With the first one the controls were literally completely janky. I didn't get how some of the reviews were so strong. likewise here with NL giving the sequel an 8 - it has gotten a 5 from another site with them saying the controls ruin the sequel also.
Re: Review: Frogun Encore (Switch) - A Sure-Footed 3D Platforming Throwback
I thought the controls were absolutely dire on the first one. regret it. read elsewhere that on the second one the fixed camera fixes some of that but creates new issues...