@Pak-Man I don't think the next smash needs to have 80+ characters.
Unpopular opinion here but I would reduce duplicates such as marth/Lucina or mario/Dr Mario or Link(s). Create a quality roster of characters that are wholly unique. Then smash can become a service like Fortnite seasonal content or they can focus on a sub space mode to differentiate.
I wonder if smash bros could thrive as a 3D arena brawler akin to powerstone?
Stranger things have happened. Looks at DC vs Mortal Kombat. The final smash can be a friendship fatality or babality from the censored SNES games. It definitely will add to the humor of the game.
My guess for the last Smash character is some obscure Nintendo character like Takamaru which will lead to a revival game by Sakurai like he did with Kid Icarus.
I remember my first time playing Devil May Cry (I started with 3) on PS2. I thought for sure it would be like any other game where they start you off easy.. Nope! Not Devil May Cry. I preceded to get beat 15+ times before finally beating a scythe wielding character at the end of stage one. Needless to say I felt accomplished and promptly quit after one success.
Lol in some games the grunt enemies throw down. Either that or I just sucked at that game.
@GrailUK
Have you no shame!? The citizens of dreamland would like a word with you. Poor waddle dee just wobbling down the street when an unprovoked attack from a pink puff ball decimate his world.
From the makers of Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime.... Retro Studio takes Sonic Prime to the next dimension
😂
On topic, I like the concept art. I would like a Sonic game set in Mobius. I don't know if the comics are canon but I enjoyed some of the characters like Sally the Deer and the Bionic bunny whose name escapes me.
Can we stop calling or comparing all games as Metroidvania or Legend of Zelda?
While it can be a positive description for a game it could also be detrimental to a game and set it or you up for failure/ disappointment. (Looking at you Okami)
I do understand that Zelda and Metroid are genre defining but still....
I like to think of games in the terms of food. Think MCDonald's value chicken sandwich versus chick-fil-a chicken sandwich. Sure they are both sandwiches but the quality and differs. Also brand recognition matters.
Shovel knight is not the prestigious media darling that Metroid is. That's like apples to oranges, Rockefeller money vs Katy Perry money.
Ultimately it doesn't hurt to have discussions about game prices but don't expect a company to devalue their products because you don't see value.
In an idea world you wouldn't have to ask for a port especially if you bought the game digitally. I think Nintendo really has to focus in on seeing their eshop as another platform that doesn't start over when they announce new hardware.
This is what happens when you listen to unsubstantiated rumors. Also Ninty could have announced a game for every single franchise they have and people will complain: port, rehash, cash grab/should've been dlc, or uninspired. Not to say that any of those terms are not true. Lol I just find the fan base interesting because we actively beg for ports over new games.
Also since fire emblem and Pokemon are so beloved maybe Nintendo should turn smash bros into franchise specific games. For instance, Smash: Pokemon Edition or Smash: Fire Emblem Edition.
Whenever we get to the next generation of smash I would like to see more new content/modes over characters. The character announcements are getting stale to me and only add a superficial new coat of paint.
I don't like Wayforwards art style. I do however think that the Megablocks/lego 3D graphics keeps the game bright snd cheery.
My first introduction to advance wars was Days of Ruin which took on a darker color scheme. Definitely enjoyed the story in that game.
Compared to fire emblem I like that this game doesn't usually have individual units you get attached to. In fire emblem that attachment /permadeath causes me to reset a lot.
@DragonEleven
Hmmm... Best presentation as in how the content was presented? I would agree that Microsoft edged out Nintendo. As I said in another post the Nintendo directs have lost their magic/production values.
I felt the lead-in intro to Metroid 5 was weak. They should have just showed the trailer and let the game speak for itself instead of saying, " here is Metroid, take a look".
Idk why but Babylon Falls reminds me of Pandora's Tower on Wii. I hope the Switch gets more original games not in an established franchise. I really enjoyed every game in the operation rainfall campaign.
As for Bayonetta 3 it will come. We shouldn't have to be reassured as frequently as we are. I'm also certain that Platinum knows exactly what direction they want to go with the game.
Tbh they could just port the first two games again or rehash it and you all would be happy.
The games were great for the most part. I didn't care for the presentation's lack of production value. This might just be the way Directs are under the new Nintendo President. Idk... something was magical about the directs under Iwata. They had more personality.
Given the pandemic and how E3 was as a whole I don't think anyone should have expected brand new triple A games especially since Nintendo already has several that we know about in production.
Just curious about the disappointment of this anniversary for Zelda or any franchise. Is it really that big of a deal that Nintendo didn't make a big hoopla out of Zelda's 35th anniversary? What are the rules to anniversary celebrations. Is it every 5 years? 10 years? 25 years?
Regardless, a new game is in the works and the 40th anniversary is coming soon.
@Sam_TSM I think you nailed it. E3 generally creates a game news drought and is not needed anymore. Games can be revealed when ready.
It may benefit E3 to change from a game expo for future releases of games. Instead, E3 can be a celebration of gaming. This could be a Game Awards show, e-gaming tournament, cosplay festival, or concert. The benefit of this is it alleviates the games news drought and allows for the event to be big enough for some companies to announce games like the games award show on spiketv.
This year's E3 feels even more disjointed than previous years. In hindsight this is funny cause Nintendo drew a lot of hate for bypassing the traditional press conference to do their own Directs at E3. Now Sony and EA skip it all together. I wonder how long before other publishers leave E3?
@chardir
Having said that do you think Nintendo will reveal Newly developed AAA games we haven't heard about especially given the pandemic.? They have already announced quite a few AAA games that still haven't seen the light of day:
*Metroid
*Bayonetta
*Splatoon 3
*Zelda
If those games are not releasing soon it would be intriguing for them to show us more AAA games that won't release until 2022.
You might be on to something. I almost want to say it's a quantity over quality thing but that wouldn't be fair seeing as I haven't played any of these games.
I think for me it's how the games are being presented. "Hey we have 35 games coming to switch this year. Let's run through them really quickly "
I think if these games were dispersed over time instead of being information overload they would get an appropriate time to shine.
@fafonio I disagree with the first part. I don't think you have to maintain the loss of weaponry as a mechanism for it to be Metroid. Accessing new area delays can be triggered by environment or enemies.
After a while it's going to become ridiculous if Samus loses her power ups every time she steps on a new planet.
As for the multiplayer you might be right... but I still would like to see it even if it was a spin-off game
I'm hoping Metroid Prime 4 does something radical. Almost as radical as Other M or Breath of the Wild.
I would like to see it go third person shooter instead of first person. Or at least the option to do so by pressing select.
I also want them to ditch the tired narrative of Samus losing all her abilities or needing authorization to use her abilities 😉. She should just come out guns blazing.
I think it would be neat to see new weapon types outside of ice, plasma, etc... How about a portal gun to warp objects or enemies for puzzles? I don't remember if the other Prime games had Xray, night vision, or thermal visors. If not those should be included too
I think it should also have multiplayer so that it can tap into the fps audience. I'm curious what Metroid would look like with multiplayer built into single player campaign but I wouldn't expect for it to.
I would like to see the return of some of Nintendo's blue ocean games like Endless Ocean. Or maybe pushmo, Dillon, codename steam, sakurai samurai.
Kid Icarus Uprising 2 should be a thing too but highly unlikely.
Nintendo now owns Next Level Games so maybe a New Punch out, Mario Sports Game, or realistic sports game to fill in for the lack of quality EA Sports games.
From 3rd parties specifically capcom I would love to have a Power Stone 3.
I love the idea of Netflix joining the gaming industry. It would probably result in more games and hopefully more variety and diversity. My only fear with Netflix is that they would be as ruthless as they are with their television series as they are with their games. Meaning that they generally don't allow enough time for a show to cultivate an audience before they cancel it. That would be terrible for games.
Another benefit of them joining the gaming industry might be that they would import and translate games. (Possibly even offer subs for those that enjoy that)
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Re: We Could Have Had A New "Ultra-Realistic" F-Zero On Switch, But Nintendo Turned It Down
@Mando44646 this perfectly defines Nintendo gamers too lol
" we want a new [insert neglected Nintendo franchise] "
"The new game sucks we want an exact port of [insert neglected Nintendo franchise] "
Re: Sakurai Says Smash Bros. Ultimate's Next DLC Fighter Really Will Be The Last One
@Pak-Man
I don't think the next smash needs to have 80+ characters.
Unpopular opinion here but I would reduce duplicates such as marth/Lucina or mario/Dr Mario or Link(s). Create a quality roster of characters that are wholly unique. Then smash can become a service like Fortnite seasonal content or they can focus on a sub space mode to differentiate.
I wonder if smash bros could thrive as a 3D arena brawler akin to powerstone?
Re: Former Star Fox Programmer Would Be Interested In Making A New Entry Without The "Gimmicks"
@link3710 was it really? That's amazing if true.
Maybe it's possible. After all Kirby and Yoshi shared the same yarn engine. Metroid and Icarus shared development. And Zelda and Takamaru too.
Re: Sakurai Says Smash Bros. Ultimate's Next DLC Fighter Really Will Be The Last One
@Sakurai

*smh... he doesn't know how to rest. Will probably start development of the next smash
Re: Former Star Fox Programmer Would Be Interested In Making A New Entry Without The "Gimmicks"
Starfox without some sort of gimmick or added replay value will not sell UNLESS it is a budget eshop title.
Tbh I think they should take the Kid Icarus Uprising engine and slap a coat of Starfox on it with voice acting and intricate story telling.
Re: Dante, Shantae And More Join Super Smash Bros. Ultimate As Mii Fighter Costumes
@Azuris
Them fighting words lol! If any hair fighters are going to be added to smash it should be Dixie. Honorable mention to Twintelle.
Re: Tekken's Kazuya Arrives In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Tomorrow, 29th June
@Ghost_of_Hasashi

Stranger things have happened. Looks at DC vs Mortal Kombat. The final smash can be a friendship fatality or babality from the censored SNES games. It definitely will add to the humor of the game.
My guess for the last Smash character is some obscure Nintendo character like Takamaru which will lead to a revival game by Sakurai like he did with Kid Icarus.
Re: Random: Mario's Speed Golf Would Look Absolutely Ridiculous In Real Life
I would actually watch golf on tv if it looked like that. Imagine all the old pro golfers running around. Lol might have a heart attack before hole 2.
Re: Review: Ender Lilies: Quietus of the Knights - A Metroidvania With A Stunning World To Discover
@benchan I made the same comment a while ago. Constantly comparing every game to Zelda and Metroid can only lead to disappointment down the road.
Re: Back Page: To All The Low-Level Enemies I've Slaughtered
I remember my first time playing Devil May Cry (I started with 3) on PS2. I thought for sure it would be like any other game where they start you off easy.. Nope! Not Devil May Cry. I preceded to get beat 15+ times before finally beating a scythe wielding character at the end of stage one. Needless to say I felt accomplished and promptly quit after one success.
Lol in some games the grunt enemies throw down. Either that or I just sucked at that game.
Re: Back Page: To All The Low-Level Enemies I've Slaughtered
@GrailUK
Have you no shame!? The citizens of dreamland would like a word with you. Poor waddle dee just wobbling down the street when an unprovoked attack from a pink puff ball decimate his world.
Lol 😂
Re: Back Page: To All The Low-Level Enemies I've Slaughtered
Its all fun and games until you pick on the wrong bird.
Re: Sonic Prime Concept Art Gives A Sneaky Look At Upcoming Netflix Show
@jcboyer515
From the makers of Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime.... Retro Studio takes Sonic Prime to the next dimension
😂
On topic, I like the concept art. I would like a Sonic game set in Mobius. I don't know if the comics are canon but I enjoyed some of the characters like Sally the Deer and the Bionic bunny whose name escapes me.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
Can we stop calling or comparing all games as Metroidvania or Legend of Zelda?
While it can be a positive description for a game it could also be detrimental to a game and set it or you up for failure/ disappointment. (Looking at you Okami)
I do understand that Zelda and Metroid are genre defining but still....
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
I like to think of games in the terms of food. Think MCDonald's value chicken sandwich versus chick-fil-a chicken sandwich. Sure they are both sandwiches but the quality and differs. Also brand recognition matters.
Shovel knight is not the prestigious media darling that Metroid is. That's like apples to oranges, Rockefeller money vs Katy Perry money.
Ultimately it doesn't hurt to have discussions about game prices but don't expect a company to devalue their products because you don't see value.
Re: Nintendo Reassures Us That Bayonetta 3 "Still Exists" Despite E3 No-Show
The real question is where is the VITALITY SENSOR and Quality of Life Nintendo talked about?
Re: Feature: "Samus' Adventure Will Continue" - Metroid Dread Producer On The Series' 2D Revival And Future
If Metroid now crawls/slides will there be morph ball in this game? Guess we will have to wait and see.
Re: Nintendo's Share Price Drops 6% Following E3 2021 Direct Broadcast And Switch Pro No-Show
We won't be done with Switch Pro rumors for 2021 until after September or October. Then it will start fresh again
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Delivered An Excellent E3 Direct For Fans Old And New
@electrolite77
In an idea world you wouldn't have to ask for a port especially if you bought the game digitally. I think Nintendo really has to focus in on seeing their eshop as another platform that doesn't start over when they announce new hardware.
Re: Cave's Acclaimed Shooter, Mushihimesama, Is Out Now On Switch
Is this game pronounced, "moo-she-him-E- sahm-ahh?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Delivered An Excellent E3 Direct For Fans Old And New
This is what happens when you listen to unsubstantiated rumors. Also Ninty could have announced a game for every single franchise they have and people will complain: port, rehash, cash grab/should've been dlc, or uninspired. Not to say that any of those terms are not true. Lol I just find the fan base interesting because we actively beg for ports over new games.
Re: Halo Dev Says It Would Be "Amazing" To See Master Chief In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
@Nintendo_Thumb
Although the hardcore will probably hate it this was a thing
They can have friendship fatalities and babalities.
Re: Halo Dev Says It Would Be "Amazing" To See Master Chief In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Also since fire emblem and Pokemon are so beloved maybe Nintendo should turn smash bros into franchise specific games. For instance, Smash: Pokemon Edition or Smash: Fire Emblem Edition.
Re: Halo Dev Says It Would Be "Amazing" To See Master Chief In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Whenever we get to the next generation of smash I would like to see more new content/modes over characters. The character announcements are getting stale to me and only add a superficial new coat of paint.
Re: Shantae Developer WayForward Is Making Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp
I don't like Wayforwards art style. I do however think that the Megablocks/lego 3D graphics keeps the game bright snd cheery.
My first introduction to advance wars was Days of Ruin which took on a darker color scheme. Definitely enjoyed the story in that game.
Compared to fire emblem I like that this game doesn't usually have individual units you get attached to. In fire emblem that attachment /permadeath causes me to reset a lot.
Re: The E3 2021 Awards Winners Are In, But Nintendo Lost Out
@DragonEleven
Hmmm... Best presentation as in how the content was presented? I would agree that Microsoft edged out Nintendo. As I said in another post the Nintendo directs have lost their magic/production values.
I felt the lead-in intro to Metroid 5 was weak. They should have just showed the trailer and let the game speak for itself instead of saying, " here is Metroid, take a look".
Re: Random: What's Happened To Bayonetta 3, Platinum?
Idk why but Babylon Falls reminds me of Pandora's Tower on Wii. I hope the Switch gets more original games not in an established franchise. I really enjoyed every game in the operation rainfall campaign.
As for Bayonetta 3 it will come. We shouldn't have to be reassured as frequently as we are. I'm also certain that Platinum knows exactly what direction they want to go with the game.
Tbh they could just port the first two games again or rehash it and you all would be happy.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think Of Nintendo Direct At E3 2021?
The games were great for the most part. I didn't care for the presentation's lack of production value. This might just be the way Directs are under the new Nintendo President. Idk... something was magical about the directs under Iwata. They had more personality.
Given the pandemic and how E3 was as a whole I don't think anyone should have expected brand new triple A games especially since Nintendo already has several that we know about in production.
Re: There's A Zelda Game & Watch Coming This Christmas
Just curious about the disappointment of this anniversary for Zelda or any franchise. Is it really that big of a deal that Nintendo didn't make a big hoopla out of Zelda's 35th anniversary? What are the rules to anniversary celebrations. Is it every 5 years? 10 years? 25 years?
Regardless, a new game is in the works and the 40th anniversary is coming soon.
Re: Random: Masahiro Sakurai Has Made A Frantic Shooter Inside Game Builder Garage
Kid Icarus Uprising 2 confirmed. Lol am I doing E3 right?
Re: Capcom Shows Off New Features In The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles
I like the ace attorney games but sometimes they have farfetched logic or they penalize you for thinking ahead of where the games wants you to.
This game does look good and hopefully maintain the traditional pun names. Although Spirit of Justice went way overboard with names.
Re: Know Your E3 History? Test Your Credentials With Our Nintendo E3 Quiz
@WhiteTrashGuy
Agreed. Definitely an important conversation to have but E3 was definitely not the best venue.
Re: Know Your E3 History? Test Your Credentials With Our Nintendo E3 Quiz
@WhiteTrashGuy
I missed the Take 2 conference and decided to look it up on YouTube. Lol people are outraged at TT for their presentation/panel.
This E3 is getting worse by the day.
Re: Talking Point: E3 Leaks Are Inevitable, But Do You Actually Want To Know?
@Sam_TSM
I think you nailed it. E3 generally creates a game news drought and is not needed anymore. Games can be revealed when ready.
It may benefit E3 to change from a game expo for future releases of games. Instead, E3 can be a celebration of gaming. This could be a Game Awards show, e-gaming tournament, cosplay festival, or concert. The benefit of this is it alleviates the games news drought and allows for the event to be big enough for some companies to announce games like the games award show on spiketv.
Re: Talking Point: E3 Leaks Are Inevitable, But Do You Actually Want To Know?
@SalvorHardin
E3 Zombie edition.
This year's E3 feels even more disjointed than previous years. In hindsight this is funny cause Nintendo drew a lot of hate for bypassing the traditional press conference to do their own Directs at E3. Now Sony and EA skip it all together. I wonder how long before other publishers leave E3?
Re: Talking Point: E3 Leaks Are Inevitable, But Do You Actually Want To Know?
@chardir
Having said that do you think Nintendo will reveal Newly developed AAA games we haven't heard about especially given the pandemic.? They have already announced quite a few AAA games that still haven't seen the light of day:
*Metroid
*Bayonetta
*Splatoon 3
*Zelda
If those games are not releasing soon it would be intriguing for them to show us more AAA games that won't release until 2022.
Re: Rumour Buster: Has GameStop Just Revealed The 'New Nintendo Switch'? Probably Not
@Anti-Matter
Switch Blade (makes for a great name for a game)
Nintendo Switch S (the s rotates in the logo to represent ying and yang)
Re: 11 Nintendo Switch Games To Watch From Guerrilla Collective Showcase Day 2
@Mystique
You might be on to something. I almost want to say it's a quantity over quality thing but that wouldn't be fair seeing as I haven't played any of these games.
I think for me it's how the games are being presented. "Hey we have 35 games coming to switch this year. Let's run through them really quickly "
I think if these games were dispersed over time instead of being information overload they would get an appropriate time to shine.
Re: Metroid Prime 4 Was First Announced Four Years Ago Today
@fafonio
I disagree with the first part. I don't think you have to maintain the loss of weaponry as a mechanism for it to be Metroid. Accessing new area delays can be triggered by environment or enemies.
After a while it's going to become ridiculous if Samus loses her power ups every time she steps on a new planet.
As for the multiplayer you might be right... but I still would like to see it even if it was a spin-off game
Re: Metroid Prime 4 Was First Announced Four Years Ago Today
I'm hoping Metroid Prime 4 does something radical. Almost as radical as Other M or Breath of the Wild.
I would like to see it go third person shooter instead of first person. Or at least the option to do so by pressing select.
I also want them to ditch the tired narrative of Samus losing all her abilities or needing authorization to use her abilities 😉. She should just come out guns blazing.
I think it would be neat to see new weapon types outside of ice, plasma, etc... How about a portal gun to warp objects or enemies for puzzles? I don't remember if the other Prime games had Xray, night vision, or thermal visors. If not those should be included too
I think it should also have multiplayer so that it can tap into the fps audience. I'm curious what Metroid would look like with multiplayer built into single player campaign but I wouldn't expect for it to.
Re: Review: Mundaun - A Rich, Sepia-Toned First-Person Horror Show
Sadness Wii is that you?
Actually now that I think about it only a handful of modern games have done monochromatic colors:
*LA Noire
*Madworld.
of course all game boy games by default
Re: Feature: Nintendo's Most Iconic E3 Moments
2008 was pretty cringeworthy. That was the first and last time we were introduced to Cammy Dunaway. The hardcore scared her off lol.
I really liked the E3 with Non- Specific Action Figure.

Re: Here's What To Expect At E3's Wholesome Direct Showcase
Hmm... there are five consoles or gaming systems in the art that I can see.
Re: E3 2021: Dates, Conference Times, How To Watch, Badges, Everything You Need To Know
Well at yhe very least we know super smash bros will be at E3. Who do you all think will be revealed as the next fighter for Smash Bros?
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel #86 - Battletoads
🙄 Hmm... on the NA boxart is the toad wearing a red thong with a spiky-black- studded belt with a kiss mark in the middle?
Re: Feature: Our Predictions For Nintendo's E3 2021 Direct
I would like to see the return of some of Nintendo's blue ocean games like Endless Ocean. Or maybe pushmo, Dillon, codename steam, sakurai samurai.
Kid Icarus Uprising 2 should be a thing too but highly unlikely.
Nintendo now owns Next Level Games so maybe a New Punch out, Mario Sports Game, or realistic sports game to fill in for the lack of quality EA Sports games.
From 3rd parties specifically capcom I would love to have a Power Stone 3.
Re: The Celebrity Cameos For E3 Season Are Coming, Starting With Jeff Goldblum
Honestly didn't recognize the name Goldblum but I definitely know Keighley. One celebrity I expect to see at E3 is Aisha Tyler.
She is a good actress but comes across cringeworthy during ubi- events.
Re: Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game
Add in online multiplayer and tourney/competition modes an the title would be worth more than $50.
Tbh Warioware might be a better candidate for a mobile game too.
Re: Fashion Police Squad Will Target The Badly Dressed On Switch Next Year
Hopefully there will be friendly fire... yikes a fire engine red trench coat with a navy blue police cap and turtleneck. lol😝
Re: Netflix Is Reportedly Eager To Expand Into Video Games
I love the idea of Netflix joining the gaming industry. It would probably result in more games and hopefully more variety and diversity. My only fear with Netflix is that they would be as ruthless as they are with their television series as they are with their games. Meaning that they generally don't allow enough time for a show to cultivate an audience before they cancel it. That would be terrible for games.
Another benefit of them joining the gaming industry might be that they would import and translate games. (Possibly even offer subs for those that enjoy that)