These guys release so few games and I love the ones they've done so much that the reveal of this was a bit of a bummer. This is just plain not the sort of thing that I think I will ever find myself into.
Guess I'll just wait three or four years for the next one and keep my fingers crossed. XP
It's not that it's a bad idea for an app. It's a bad idea for Nintendo's FIRST app. The whole point of this was to please the investors and get people psyched about playing Nintendo games on their phones. Announcing just this for nearly half a year from now is like a sad little whimper when they need to bust out a great big shout. It's continuing a lengthening trend of Nintendo refusing to do what people want and expect. That's worked for them in the past, but right now they're just shooting themselves in the foot over and over again. I mean we'll see how this turns out, and there will be other games that come later... But this is just plain bad business. The timing is just horrible.
I'm iffy on 2 and 3. I don't expect details on the Club Nintendo successor, though I can't tell you exactly why. Maybe because I'm looking forward to it so much and I'm used to not getting the info I want from Nintendo, haha. Or maybe I think it will be so integrated in the NX that we won't get info until we know more about the system.
Then with 3 I'm only skeptical because I'm starting to think this is going to be another Vitality Sensor sort of thing. It doesn't feel like Nintendo wants to do the QoL thing anymore. Though maybe I'm just being impatient and it feels like it's taking so long because they announced it before they had even started.
I would be way into this if it used the old controller, but as it is I think they shot themselves in the foot. I've still got my old controllers lying around (as I'm sure several million people do), so I'll be going with Rock Band during this little revival.
Love this game. It's pretty short, and unless you like the silliness of the main mechanic you probably won't enjoy it much, but I thought it was a lot of fun. One of the few games I've done a let's play of so far.
Still really really looking forward to playing this game, but can't afford it at full price. When I can get it for $20 I'm going to be one happy camper. Strange but cool that they're still updating it.
@Tiredman But the point isn't that games are on a decline. It's that handheld games are. Comparing one piece of hardware arbitrarily to another won't give you much info, but this isn't arbitrary--this is one company with one line of handhelds. Comparing each, identifying trends, and factoring in the overall market is a great way to see where things are going. However I will say that no one can say anything for sure until we see how well the next hendheld does. But if it does less than 50 million, then there will be no denying that the handheld market shrinking is a sure thing. There might not be another dedicated handheld generation after that.
@pika677 The GBA was released in 2001 and the DS "replaced" it in 2004. A console generation is generally measured by the amount of time that a console is alone on the market without the next thing coming. So there were only three years where the GBA was the newest, hottest, most powerful Nintendo console. And it still managed 80 million despite the DS coming in and blasting it out of the water soon after with 150 million units. In this light the 3DS isn't doing so hot, despite an incredible library of games. The only conclusion then, is that the market itself is changing.
@Tiredman But we're already seeing that decline. The 3DS hasn't sold anything close to what the DS sold, and even before that the GBA sold 80 million during a very short generation. And the moms and dads that play games aren't the biggest problem--it's the kids who are turning to smart devices rather than handhelds. It's a fact that these kids are growing in number. If the market is shifting--even if it hasn't shifted all the way yet--it is eventually going to get there. And I don't believe that's blind naysaying at all. It's just looking at facts and seeing where things are going.
A lot of blind loyalty in this comment section, I gotta say. Just because the sales still aren't too bad, that doesn't mean they aren't very likely on a downward slope. Next gen could end up being a big issue as far as Nintendo's handheld goes.
There's just no denying that more people are moving over to smartphones, and more kids are starting on smartphones without EVER getting into handhelds. It feels like it's only a matter of time.
I absolutely love Animal Crossing...but I don't think there's a single thing about this game that I would like. To each his own though, and I'm happy that a lot of other people seem to be enjoying it!
I wonder how much it will be. It's the sort of game you play for about ten minutes at a time, so I don't think I would want to pay more than a few bucks for it. Way fun though.
It was magic. I mean it was pure magic. It was like aliens brought futuristic technology to the world and gave it to me. Unless they very suddenly develop perfect VR a la Star Trek's holodeck, I don't think any game will ever be as mind-blowing to me again.
More time has passed between this version and now than the time between the original and this version. That makes me feel really old.
Anyway, loved this game to pieces. Especially considering it was the only DS game to play for the first, like, nine months of the thing's life. I played the mini games like crazy. I was okay with having only the D-pad, but holding a button to run was what nearly killed it for me. Holding a button to walk would have made more sense, because you basically NEVER walk.
People are too hard on these demos. They're just a quick little look at how aspects of these franchises might look with sick graphics. They're obviously rough around the edges because they're using pre-existing assets. I think they're fun, and they get me dreaming about what Nintendo could do.
You know, if Nintendo wanted to. Which they obviously don't. XP
Why do people think they can pitch stuff to Nintendo? Has Nintendo EVER accepted a pitch like this? I love them and everything, but they're incredibly stubborn and protective of their properties. This sort of thing will probably never work.
Aw man, if I'd known this was today I would have made a video about it! Well happy birthday, Paper Mario. 15 years of paper (and 11 years of waiting for a proper third entry).
It was still a terrible, terrible idea. Telling us "We're working on something because we're always working on something," is one thing, but giving it a name and bringing it up all the time has done nothing but convince people to stop buying Wii U's.
Man, I'm pretty bummed. This has been on my list to play for years, and I thought it was a Zelda-type dungeon crawler adventure. Hearing that it's a one-life multiple-runs roguelike makes me think I'll probably never play it. I'm just not into that kind of thing.
I feel like the fact that they're cool with whatever you design makes this kind of worthless. If I wanted to design a home the way I wanted it with no other requirements, I would just play Animal Crossing.
I would have bought this already if it were on 3DS instead. Putting it on Wii U is just baffling, and I've been struggling with the choice since it released.
They definitely do need more western blood. Both business style have strengths and weaknesses, and having more western decision-makers would greatly strengthen what they already have. And if anything, they need younger blood as well, because despite what a lot of people seem to think most of the guys in charge at Nintendo hate taking risks and are very stubborn about what's "allowed" to get released.
Fantastic game. I've gotten it several times over through Humble Bundles, but Wii U owners who don't have a PC or any other current- or last-gen system are in for a treat.
The crossover might pay off for Nintendo if kids could then take the DK and Bowser figures and use them in the big Nintendo amiibo game...but there isn't one, so no, I guess.
If it's something that will make you more money, then hire more people to do it. Porting games is a purely technical matter than needs none of Nintendo's core creative team to do, and could be outsourced to basically anyone.
It's perfectly fine only showing us what's coming out soon. They keeping hanging on this idea, and it's obscuring the real issue, which is that there isn't much good stuff coming out soon. There should never be a period in a company's lineup that's as sparse as Nintendo's is now.
Yeah, I'm all for spinoffs and such when we've got the regular games as well. The games they announced at the event were no different from what we usually get, except for the fact that that was just about all we got. It made us wonder what the point of any of it was. When we scream for a certain game year after year, why are they vehemently AGAINST giving it to us?
@Iggly Ohhhh, I get it. The knockback is for the person using it. I read it wrong. Okay then, that's much better! I couldn't even tell I was doing anything to them when I shot them so I just stopped trying and starting running! Haha. But now I can actually defend myself. (It's still pretty OP though!)
Wait... I don't understand the Kraken knockback thing. Whenever I get touched by one I die instantly, every time, no exceptions. Have I just been getting unlucky and not noticing that I'm supposed to be getting knocked back instead of instantly killed?
Man, I thought they were going to do something more. That ability is insane.
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Re: Review: Human Resource Machine (Wii U eShop)
These guys release so few games and I love the ones they've done so much that the reveal of this was a bit of a bummer. This is just plain not the sort of thing that I think I will ever find myself into.
Guess I'll just wait three or four years for the next one and keep my fingers crossed. XP
Re: Reaction: Nintendo's First Mobile App, Miitomo, Targets the Lucrative Depths of the Blue Ocean
It's not that it's a bad idea for an app. It's a bad idea for Nintendo's FIRST app. The whole point of this was to please the investors and get people psyched about playing Nintendo games on their phones. Announcing just this for nearly half a year from now is like a sad little whimper when they need to bust out a great big shout. It's continuing a lengthening trend of Nintendo refusing to do what people want and expect. That's worked for them in the past, but right now they're just shooting themselves in the foot over and over again. I mean we'll see how this turns out, and there will be other games that come later... But this is just plain bad business. The timing is just horrible.
Re: Nintendo Shares Suffer Major Drop as Investors React to Miitomo and Its Delay
Well, it's not a game, so they're understandably disappointed.
Re: Review: Slender: The Arrival (Wii U eShop)
I nearly gave up in the mine, but overall this game was scary as heck and a lot of fun!
Re: Talking Point: Five Potential Reveals Coming From Nintendo's Financial Briefing
@spurgeonryan Woah, Spurge! Didn't know you were on Nintendo Life too. XD
Re: Talking Point: Five Potential Reveals Coming From Nintendo's Financial Briefing
I'm iffy on 2 and 3. I don't expect details on the Club Nintendo successor, though I can't tell you exactly why. Maybe because I'm looking forward to it so much and I'm used to not getting the info I want from Nintendo, haha. Or maybe I think it will be so integrated in the NX that we won't get info until we know more about the system.
Then with 3 I'm only skeptical because I'm starting to think this is going to be another Vitality Sensor sort of thing. It doesn't feel like Nintendo wants to do the QoL thing anymore. Though maybe I'm just being impatient and it feels like it's taking so long because they announced it before they had even started.
Re: Eiji Aonuma is Aiming For an Open World "Surprise, or Kind of a Twist" in The Legend of Zelda for Wii U
Sometimes that philosophy leads to cool innovations. Sometimes it leads to a long string of disappointments. Fingers crossed in this case.
Re: Review: Guitar Hero Live (Wii U)
I would be way into this if it used the old controller, but as it is I think they shot themselves in the foot. I've still got my old controllers lying around (as I'm sure several million people do), so I'll be going with Rock Band during this little revival.
Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd October (North America)
'that game that everyone pretended to scream about on YouTube'
Funny thing, there was a time when I thought everyone screaming was faking, but then I played it and screamed like a little girl the whole time. XD
Re: Dementium Remastered Pricing Confirmed as Renegade Kid Looks Ahead to Release
Nice price! Always wanted to pick this game up, so now seems like a great time!
Re: Octodad: Dadliest Catch Gets A Revised Release Date
Love this game. It's pretty short, and unless you like the silliness of the main mechanic you probably won't enjoy it much, but I thought it was a lot of fun. One of the few games I've done a let's play of so far.
Re: There's a New Update Incoming for Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition
Still really really looking forward to playing this game, but can't afford it at full price. When I can get it for $20 I'm going to be one happy camper. Strange but cool that they're still updating it.
Re: Climate "Not Healthy" For Dedicated Handheld Games Consoles, Says Sony's Shuhei Yoshida
@Tiredman But the point isn't that games are on a decline. It's that handheld games are. Comparing one piece of hardware arbitrarily to another won't give you much info, but this isn't arbitrary--this is one company with one line of handhelds. Comparing each, identifying trends, and factoring in the overall market is a great way to see where things are going. However I will say that no one can say anything for sure until we see how well the next hendheld does. But if it does less than 50 million, then there will be no denying that the handheld market shrinking is a sure thing. There might not be another dedicated handheld generation after that.
Re: Climate "Not Healthy" For Dedicated Handheld Games Consoles, Says Sony's Shuhei Yoshida
@pika677 The GBA was released in 2001 and the DS "replaced" it in 2004. A console generation is generally measured by the amount of time that a console is alone on the market without the next thing coming. So there were only three years where the GBA was the newest, hottest, most powerful Nintendo console. And it still managed 80 million despite the DS coming in and blasting it out of the water soon after with 150 million units. In this light the 3DS isn't doing so hot, despite an incredible library of games. The only conclusion then, is that the market itself is changing.
Re: Climate "Not Healthy" For Dedicated Handheld Games Consoles, Says Sony's Shuhei Yoshida
@Tiredman But we're already seeing that decline. The 3DS hasn't sold anything close to what the DS sold, and even before that the GBA sold 80 million during a very short generation. And the moms and dads that play games aren't the biggest problem--it's the kids who are turning to smart devices rather than handhelds. It's a fact that these kids are growing in number. If the market is shifting--even if it hasn't shifted all the way yet--it is eventually going to get there. And I don't believe that's blind naysaying at all. It's just looking at facts and seeing where things are going.
Re: Climate "Not Healthy" For Dedicated Handheld Games Consoles, Says Sony's Shuhei Yoshida
A lot of blind loyalty in this comment section, I gotta say. Just because the sales still aren't too bad, that doesn't mean they aren't very likely on a downward slope. Next gen could end up being a big issue as far as Nintendo's handheld goes.
There's just no denying that more people are moving over to smartphones, and more kids are starting on smartphones without EVER getting into handhelds. It feels like it's only a matter of time.
Re: Review: Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer (3DS)
I absolutely love Animal Crossing...but I don't think there's a single thing about this game that I would like. To each his own though, and I'm happy that a lot of other people seem to be enjoying it!
Re: Starwhal Makes A Slash On The North American Wii U eShop September 24
I wonder how much it will be. It's the sort of game you play for about ten minutes at a time, so I don't think I would want to pay more than a few bucks for it. Way fun though.
Re: Mario Memories: The Incredible Impact of Super Mario 64
It was magic. I mean it was pure magic. It was like aliens brought futuristic technology to the world and gave it to me. Unless they very suddenly develop perfect VR a la Star Trek's holodeck, I don't think any game will ever be as mind-blowing to me again.
Re: Pikmin 4 is "Very Close to Completion", Though Its Platform is Unclear
dies
Re: New Difficulty Settings, 3D Title Screen and More Revealed for Dementium Remastered
Way excited for this! Always wanted to get the DS one, so this is perfect.
Re: Mario History: Super Mario 64 DS - 2004
More time has passed between this version and now than the time between the original and this version. That makes me feel really old.
Anyway, loved this game to pieces. Especially considering it was the only DS game to play for the first, like, nine months of the thing's life. I played the mini games like crazy. I was okay with having only the D-pad, but holding a button to run was what nearly killed it for me. Holding a button to walk would have made more sense, because you basically NEVER walk.
Re: Netflix Update Goes Live on Wii U
Stinkin'.....FINALLY.
I use Netflix on my Wii U pretty much every day, and this was a loooooong time coming. The old version was a nightmare.
Re: Nintendo of America Provides an Update on Three amiibo Getting Restocks This Week
As long as the quantities are limited, there's still a problem.
You have a product, you meet the demand so that every person who wants the product can get it. Period. I can barely guess what Nintendo's problem is.
Re: Video: Metroid in Unreal Engine 4 is Shiny and Slightly Strange
People are too hard on these demos. They're just a quick little look at how aspects of these franchises might look with sick graphics. They're obviously rough around the edges because they're using pre-existing assets. I think they're fun, and they get me dreaming about what Nintendo could do.
You know, if Nintendo wanted to. Which they obviously don't. XP
Re: Analysts Suggest That Nintendo's Quality Of Life Initiative Has Been "Put On The Back Burner"
I've been thinking this might be the case for a while now. But I guess we'll see.
Re: Picross 3D Sequel is Heading to the 3DS in Japan, Includes amiibo Support
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS
Re: Exclusive: MercurySteam Has Been Working On A Metroid Prototype For Wii U And 3DS
Why do people think they can pitch stuff to Nintendo? Has Nintendo EVER accepted a pitch like this? I love them and everything, but they're incredibly stubborn and protective of their properties. This sort of thing will probably never work.
Re: Splatoon's Rainmaker Mode Is Coming Tomorrow
I'm surprised they didn't just include this in the august update. Can't wait to try it out!
Re: Editorial: Paper Mario is 15 Years Old Today, and Provides a Reminder of Nintendo's Wonderful Whimsy
Aw man, if I'd known this was today I would have made a video about it! Well happy birthday, Paper Mario. 15 years of paper (and 11 years of waiting for a proper third entry).
Re: Mega Man And Mighty No. 9 Creator Keiji Inafune Admits He Doesn't Make Games That He Can Play
@Onett You hit the nail on the head. The title is definitely misleading, and there's nothing wrong with where he's coming from.
Re: Early NX Reveal Was To "Reinforce Commitment" To Dedicated Hardware, Claims Nintendo's Scott Moffitt
It was still a terrible, terrible idea. Telling us "We're working on something because we're always working on something," is one thing, but giving it a name and bringing it up all the time has done nothing but convince people to stop buying Wii U's.
Re: Splatoon's Next North American Splatfest is Detailed
Hot dogs!!! And none of that Oscar Meyer stuff. There are good brands of dogs/sausages.
Re: Review: The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (Wii U eShop)
Man, I'm pretty bummed. This has been on my list to play for years, and I thought it was a Zelda-type dungeon crawler adventure. Hearing that it's a one-life multiple-runs roguelike makes me think I'll probably never play it. I'm just not into that kind of thing.
Re: First Impressions: Getting Cosy With Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer
I feel like the fact that they're cool with whatever you design makes this kind of worthless. If I wanted to design a home the way I wanted it with no other requirements, I would just play Animal Crossing.
Re: Tengami Passes Nyamyam's Sales Targets on the Wii U eShop
@aaronsullivan My question exactly. I don't believe anyone takes more than half, so I don't know why more than half is going to publishers.
Re: Review: Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time (Wii U eShop / DS)
I would have bought this already if it were on 3DS instead. Putting it on Wii U is just baffling, and I've been struggling with the choice since it released.
Re: Poll: What Do You Want From Nintendo's NX Platform?
Why is holiday 2017 not an option for release? That's the most likely option in my mind.
Re: Amazon Teases an amiibo Announcement for Monday 13th July
Watch, it will be another set of characters that no one can buy. XD
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Strategy Needs to be Global, With a Western Touch in the Boardroom
They definitely do need more western blood. Both business style have strengths and weaknesses, and having more western decision-makers would greatly strengthen what they already have. And if anything, they need younger blood as well, because despite what a lot of people seem to think most of the guys in charge at Nintendo hate taking risks and are very stubborn about what's "allowed" to get released.
Re: Nintendo Download: 9th July (North America)
Lots of great games on sale. But I already own most of them on Steam, unfortunately.
Re: Limbo Looks Set to Finally Arrive on the Wii U eShop
Fantastic game. I've gotten it several times over through Humble Bundles, but Wii U owners who don't have a PC or any other current- or last-gen system are in for a treat.
[crickets]
Re: New Skylanders SuperChargers Trailer Plays Up Bowser and Donkey Kong as IP's First Ever Guest Stars
@Yomerodes They should have done it! It was in line with everything else they did during the presentation!
Re: New Skylanders SuperChargers Trailer Plays Up Bowser and Donkey Kong as IP's First Ever Guest Stars
The crossover might pay off for Nintendo if kids could then take the DK and Bowser figures and use them in the big Nintendo amiibo game...but there isn't one, so no, I guess.
Re: We Can't Release Virtual Console Games Any Faster As It Would Impact New Development, Says Iwata
If it's something that will make you more money, then hire more people to do it. Porting games is a purely technical matter than needs none of Nintendo's core creative team to do, and could be outsourced to basically anyone.
Re: Nintendo Seeks Improvement at E3 2016, Though Miyamoto Defends Near-Term Rather Than "Dream-Like Demonstrations"
It's perfectly fine only showing us what's coming out soon. They keeping hanging on this idea, and it's obscuring the real issue, which is that there isn't much good stuff coming out soon. There should never be a period in a company's lineup that's as sparse as Nintendo's is now.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Approach to Transforming Franchises Clashes With Fan Expectations
Yeah, I'm all for spinoffs and such when we've got the regular games as well. The games they announced at the event were no different from what we usually get, except for the fact that that was just about all we got. It made us wonder what the point of any of it was. When we scream for a certain game year after year, why are they vehemently AGAINST giving it to us?
Re: Splatoon Version 1.3.0 Update Due on 30th June, Gameplay Adjustments Detailed
@Iggly Ohhhh, I get it. The knockback is for the person using it. I read it wrong. Okay then, that's much better! I couldn't even tell I was doing anything to them when I shot them so I just stopped trying and starting running! Haha. But now I can actually defend myself. (It's still pretty OP though!)
Re: Splatoon Version 1.3.0 Update Due on 30th June, Gameplay Adjustments Detailed
Wait... I don't understand the Kraken knockback thing. Whenever I get touched by one I die instantly, every time, no exceptions. Have I just been getting unlucky and not noticing that I'm supposed to be getting knocked back instead of instantly killed?
Man, I thought they were going to do something more. That ability is insane.
Re: Splatoon Hackers Make Octoling A Playable Character
I don't know why we couldn't play as them in the first place! Or at least go up against bots outside of the campaign.