
It's been an interesting couple of weeks in the world of the Nintendo NX. We still know little about it, but rumours of varying reliability made it a hot talking point online and within the community here at Nintendo Life. It's dominated the forums, and all the while we're left to wonder what this platform will actually be - it's gaming hardware, at least we know that.
So what has the chat been around NX? The first set of rumours were a mix of 'possible' and 'not likely', referencing a 2016 summer release and 20 million year one sales targets; we gave our views on those rumours, naturally. Then there was the rumour from Unseen64, in which it was suggested that the NX platform won't match the power of the PS4; we shared our thoughts on the potential implications and why that may be true. There were some official words from Satoru Iwata, too - though refusing to talk about the concept with investors, the Nintendo President spoke of a 'Nintendo-like' solution and avoiding mistakes of past launches. The big N boss also stated that secrecy around the project is to stop rivals stealing the idea.
With all of this chatter your humble writer noticed a bit of an oversight in our content - we're yet to ask what you want the NX to be in a series of polls - these surveys are fairly regular on the weekends here, as it's nice to pass spare time debating and chatting about all things Nintendo. We've stated repeatedly - along with many others - that we think a unified future is inevitable with the NX, but as this is Nintendo it's particularly hard to guess what's coming with full confidence.
Yet still, we want to know your thoughts on the platform in the polls and comments section below. It'll be 2016 before Nintendo reveals what it is, but with recent rumours and statements we can speculate and fantasize to our heart's content. What do you want the Nintendo NX to be?
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I want third party games (all of them), a good and true account systems across all platforms like PS, a good internal HD and a system on par with this generation or above, a normal controller like the days of SNES, no motion and 3D please and retrocompatibility with Wii U games would be a good plus for the system too.
Hope this doesn't come soon but if they really don't have any more Wii U games coming in 2016 then they will need it out next year. Can't sit on it like they did with the Wii U with nothing for like the last 2 years of the Wii's life.
Nintendo, it's time for a put it or shut up. For stars spirits sake, take your time with this. Don't release it in 2016!
Please release in 2017! I don't have any money!
"Hype under control" hahah I loved that. But yeah, after the big dissapointment that was Nintendo at E3 2015, I learned the lesson and I will never get crazy hyped for anything gaming related again. It's better to keep expectations low at this point.
I just hope that nintendo sticks to it's 5 year console cycle and releases holiday 2017; the Wii U still has some life in it. (unless the NX is a handheld)
I really doubt it will be a hybrid system, because Iwata said they want to surprise gamers and I'd be VERY surprised if he or another Nintendo employee didn't see the rumours around a hybrid system. Also, Reggie said it will be a home console.
I want the third party option for the games library to win!
Personally, I think I've had enough of Nintendo's "off-the wall" hardware design. They've had their fun with the wii remote and game pad. I just want something that improves upon standard features, with maybe a little twist.
Here's hoping the system is a console/handheld hybrid. I mean that just sounds so cool!
I'm not sure how I feel about it being both a portable and home console unit. That's a cool idea, but it really limits what the dedicated "home" console games are going to look like I'd think. Or it would drive up the price if the controller is a handheld device and the console is it's own thing.
I personally also think that, as cool as that sounds, it doesn't make much sense. They have never really done badly with their portable devices and 3DS is still doing great. I would think that the unification of their handheld and console divisions is not because the new console is a hybrid but rather because they want to unify the experience. Like, sell a handheld device where you can download apps like on iOS that can also be used on the dedicated home console. Think, like an iPad can download iOS games and so can a iPhone and so can an iPod Touch.
That would make a lot of sense. They're gonna have an OS like iOS that will work across the new NX, an eventual handheld and their new mobile games. But the system itself a hybrid? I don't think so.
I think the system itself will utilize some kind of unique feature though that nobody has predicted. No matter how you look at it, it doesn't look like Nintendo intends to make PS4 level games for the NX if they intend to do something like that. However, they could still make it capable of doing that so third parties could port games. But I see that as unlikely.
I can't say that I am not excited for the NX, but I am merely cautiously optimistic. They're not saying things that get me overly excited but you can never count Nintendo out and can never tell what they'll do. I hope it's something cooler then we are speculating though.
In any case, I really hope whatever Mario games they are working on for it are better then the ones we got on the Wii U so far (I'm specifically talking main series games). I was underhwelmed by NSMBWii U and 3D World. I could really go for a Sunshine sequel that's been rumored though!
It'll come late 2017. Third party developers need 2 years to port video games, and Nintendo needs a good strong first party line up this time round.
Plus Nintendo typically reveals a new console one year, showcases it the next and then releases it during that November.
However, with all the interest the NX is now receiving across the Internet, I guarantee we will know what it is before the end of the year - someone will leak the development kit details just like with Sony and Microsoft.
While I would like Nintendo to deliver an innovative console/handheld, I just don't think there is much room to innovate in that space unless VR really takes off. However I think there is a great potential to bring innovative games. This current generation has brought a large amount of blockbuster games that didn't live up to the hype, and I think Nintendo is in a prime position to deliver that truly next-gen experience that people want, even if their hardware isn't as strong.
Why is holiday 2017 not an option for release? That's the most likely option in my mind.
As long as it ultimately has the word "Wii" in the official name, than I'll be happy.
Yeah If I remember correctly, Iwata said NX will be a third pillar on it's catalog of consoles and that will not replace Wii U or 3DS... so maybe NX is going to be something completely original and never seen before, and the actual Wii U/3DS succesors will be revealed at E3 2016....
There should be an option to vote for a Holiday 2017 release. I want to focus on my Wii U for as long as possible before worrying about NX.
If the rumor is true about the NX being less powerful than PS4, then you can kiss your dreams of 3rd party support goodbye. By the time PS5/Nextbox come out, it'll be less powerful than the last generation. No 3rd party developer is going to want to make games at such tiny fractions of speed for the NX.
I don't think it will be hybrid but I am inclined to believe it will be a console with a brother handheld that is capable of expanded connectivity and can maybe act as a controller/gamepad
Here come the idiots saying "don't worry about power, just focus on the games" LOL
Assassins Creed Unity is a game. Remember the reason it didn't come to the wii u? Yeah, exactly.
No matter what the NX turns out to be, Nintendo really needs it to be something that will be able to help their public image and increase their relevancy , because at the moment, Nintendo is almost a joke to other game companies.
Assuming that it is a console, the simplest and safest answer, would be them releasing a normal but powerful console able to rival Sony's and Microsoft's consoles (knowing Nintendo, I doubt they will take this approach) or they could go with the whole innovative route. Which would require their "gimmick" to be fairly impressive and unique in order to attract others. In the end, the NX has to be something that appeals to the public and fans, and has to be properly marketed.
A western release of Pokken Tournament for the NX would be fantastic.
I'm expecting a 3D Mario, but I'm actually hoping it isn't Galaxy 3. Sunshine 2 or a completely new 3D Mario platformer experience would be a lot better than another rehash with a theme that's already been used.
I wouldn't suprise me in the least if Nintendo made a step backwards with the NX, and they completely gimmped it in every way. Cartridges and low res graphics are now back in fashion people.
In an ideal situation, I just want Nintendo to have hardware in line with what the others are making, the ability to play my games on a friends console from my hd drive, keep the fans and 3rd parties happy, and let NoE and NoA put money into developing their own games
@ferrers405 and a hard drive. At least 1TB
To start the VC at launch with all Wii and Wii U VC games available (all licences resolved so we can see difficult stuff like TMNT games too).
@Spoony_Tech they better bust this system out as soon as possible. I don't know if you've noticed, but the wii u is a flop. Summer 2016 is too late
I don't wish to press the emergency stop on this hype train, but for me "starting at 0" and "not as powerful as PS4" points to a basic console to break in to the Chinese market.
@Captain_Toad rush it out, Nintendo. It can't possibly be worst than the wii u
@GamePerson19 not my problem. Go work at KFC
Account unification - and an improved virtual console to make up for the fact that Nintendo is simply never going to get the same 3rd party support that X-Box and Sony have.
Not sure they should either - but if they're going to focus on giving us a different experience - they really need to focus on making as large a library of their own games available to fill that hole.
I'll continue buying Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games - but would like to see the company focus on moving into the future with an incredible back-catalogue.
Also, please hold the NX off for as long as possible. Super Mario 3D World was great and all but I do not believe it broke the same ground that a home-console Mario needs to.
I really hope Ninty gives the WiiU a bit more love before moving on. I think it would be of benefit to them to end their current console on a high rather than a whimper to drum up positivity for whatever's next.
I want developer support and a long lifespan from the nx..
@FragRed if devs are stupid enough to port games AGAIN, then nobody will buy them and the NX will be the next virtual boy
Above all they need to get third parties back on board. I really hope they realize this.
I really hope the hybrid console is true. It's become obvious that Nintendo has a difficult time supporting both home and handheld consoles at the same time. Merging the two together would solve some of that.
It has to be region free this time or I'll go with Sony.
@Bleed0range I'm feeling similar to you.
I like the idea of the unified development platform and core hardware compatibility between a handheld and a console device but with separate devices that play to their strengths.
I've said it before, but imagine integration strong enough that you could play a race in Mario Kart 8 with a bunch of people, some on the new handheld a couple on the console, maybe an overview with commentator taking up half the TV screen. All without internet just similar communication like happens with the GamePad, only now the handhelds are using their own GPU so the console is not overloaded. Maybe there is one GamePad in the mix as well. This could be played in any combination you like. That, to me, would be great.
It wouldn't even need any other innovation beyond that because I think that would make the type of play possible go above and beyond what GamePad was allowing while not being too difficult to grasp by third parties, even.
Part of this would mean the console has very little compromise in a box alone because it would just have a nice pro controller (now with gyro and nfc, but no screen). So the cost could stay reasonably low. (Same with Handheld device)
The impossible wish is that it could remain backwards compatible to bring the Wii U library with it at launch. Maybe you just bring or buy a new GamePad to get access to it all (The GamePad could be reshaped for better grip ergonomics because the flat tablet thing really didn't pan out for anything significant)
Anyhow, indicators are not going in that direction, really. But I can dream.
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@Splatburst yes. just yes.
@Splatburst
Omg! Amazing!
I'm not too bothered about what the NX is, anyway. As long as I get to enjoy more Nintendo games. That said, I also want Nintendo to grab decent third-party support for whatever their next system is.
I personally don't agree with those dates shown. Holiday 2017 and beyond will do, thank you very much. To be honest, I still believe the Wii U can still deliver some very excellent games despite all the doom and gloom.
@AdanVC agreed
Hardware- I want Nintendo to move to X86, use a GPU that is on par with PS4, use a better CPU than Sony, and include 16GB of RAM (DDR3 or better). I'd prefer that they use a solid state game medium and leave behind the PC design (optical discs and massive HDD).
Software- Third parties aren't going to widely support the console no matter what so Nintendo has to acquire at least 6 Western teams to make me confident in the software for the platform.
Management- Iwata should be replaced as the president of the company. I nominate Hideo Kojima (when he is finished with Konami).
Branding- Just call it the NES7/NS7.
Controller- The simplest answer is the correct answer. The controller should be the next evolution in one-handed motion control (bringing us 3D motion tracking with dual analog support). I am still dumbfounded that Nintendo did not improve upon their remote and build WiiU around it. Ride the horse that brought you to the dance!
I want Nintendo to get it's head out of it's ass and at the very least make a system that's far more powerful than already two year old "next gen" systems.
Do it right Nintendo, give yourself some staying power. Do not release a system in 2017 and say hey look, "this isn't even as good as the ps4 was four years ago, feels great don't it?"
I love innovation and surprises but miss 3rd party games!! Imo the Wii u game pad should be compatible and playing Wii u games is a must. It's too soon to abandon the Wii u and I'm not expecting a massive hardware bump like some. Nintendo don't need to be better than rival's..... Just equal but different!!
Also, I'd hope Nintendo would have agreed contracts (even if they have to pay/subsidise) to get the biggies like cod, fifa, assassins creed etc on their new console........my personal feeling of doom was the lack of GTA arriving on the Wii u early on, as the single biggest computer game release of the generation(s).....this was the biggest single blow in terms of losing a franchise and in turn, media/public respect as a platform!
If the nx is a console then it needs to be more powerful than the ps4. There is no point having 3rd parties on board if their games are going to struggle performance wise compared to the ps4 and xbox1. If the nx had enough grunt in it to give more stable frame rates or higher resolutions then the games would sell alot better on nintendos hardware compared to the wii and wii u.
They should launch September 2016 on the 20th anniversary of N64/Mario 64.
If you wait until 2017 then you're at the doorstep of MS' next launch in 2018.
@Ninstarkof Nintendo has to be incredibly careful with their next move. With their relevancy and approval at an average low, rushing out the NX, no matter what it may be, sounds like an over all poor decision. Which in the end could end hurting them more than it normally would.
The Wii U may be a failure, but at this point even with it out, Nintendo is able to still obtain a profit (however minuscule it may be). The overall better and safer decision would be for Nintendo to take their time with the NX and slowly support the Wii U over that time, in order to ensure that it reaches an average life span and gives time for proper thought to be placed into the NX.
@Ninstarkof
"Assassins Creed Unity is a game...."
I seriously wonder why you used that game as an example. I'm just curious.
Still keeping my hope
As long as it have some backward compact ability and some things like miiverse and
Transfer thing and items from eShop.
My wildest dream wish is a Nintendo Steam Machine which has all the Nintendo games we love exclusive AND every game that's on steam.
But probably NX is a "New WiiU lite" with more power and a Slot for 3DS games in the gamepad controller. But I don't believe that the new gamepad controller works as a handheld. It was told the third party developers like the new system. Probably because NX upscales 3DS games. Not in HD but graphics should be okay. So they can easily make 3DS games and offer it immediately to the home console audience without extra cost. So the news that NX don't compete with PS4 graphics makes sense. Because it doesn't have to. It's still a WiiU.
@Splatburst Fantastic! That said I'm not sure Modern Warfare 4 is possible because of certain Modern Warfare 3 events.
@AdanVC #5 Agreed. And as long as it has good stuff, I don't care how it'll turn out. And don't make it early, either.
@Ninstarkof ;^*
@aaronsullivan
Pro Controller with NFC and Gyro. Perfect!
An engaging gameplay experience is my priority - otherwise what's the point? What form that will take depends on what Nintendo is aiming at. Doesn't seem like they are going for direct competition with Sony or Microsoft so not expecting third party support. Also the rumours on lack of power and being "a third pillar" not succeeding 3DS or WiiU make me wonder what the NX could possibly be. What's left? A home console that plays mobile games? Too much rumour really. What I would really like is a hybrid console capable of both home and portable play - even if the 3DS is intergrated into its use in some way. I'd also like the opportunity to play third party games so it needs power and ease of use for developers. Don't want too many gimmicks, but amiibo had best be used by something or there'll be outcry at lack of value in these things that we've only just got. Prefer a later release date with backwards compatibility for a large selection of games at launch along with some launch exclusives. Compatibility with the gamepad would therefore need to be present (for Wii U games at least).
I think I'm saying that I want it to be everything, but do not expect it will be. Seems more like it will be a cheaper kind of console, perhaps just for Nintendo games. Price will be vitally important in that case, but don't see why Nintendo would not make huge profits even with that approach of a budget console. And they can still make great games, though if they take the Amiibo Festival route, then I'll bail.
Honestly I don't want a hybrid system. The hardware is fine the way it is now. What needs some updating is the software. Cross-buy and an account system are the most wanted features for me. They could also use some more third party support but that is unlikely at this point since they seem to have no relationship with anybody.
Here is a question for everyone here. Zelda is coming out for the Wii U sometime next year, however, will it also be a launch title for the NX, similar to Twilight Princess?
Since Nintendo has no interest in trying to keep up in terms hardware, 3rd party support isn't going to come back until that changes. That said, I'm fine with them not trying to rejoin the power arms-race, but they need to find a way to get some of the major 3rd party multiplatform titles back on their consoles if they want to compete again. They can say what they want, but they are in direct competition with Sony and MS in the home console market. There's no way around it.
Otherwise, I like the concept behind the Wii U, but I feel like only one gamepad limited the experience a lot. I do understand that multiple gamepads would be incredibly expensive though. I can't help but think that there couldn't be some way to integrate smartphones as "controllers" of some sort, if nothing else to help.
If nothing else, my biggest thing would be backwards compatibility, especially with the eShop and controllers. Nintendo has botched their online structures for 10 years now, and it's way past time to fix it. The eShop as it is now is functional, but it's still a bit of a mess as far as finding games - there's no filters or anything. With NIDs, there's finally a unified account system, but that needs to be extended to friend lists and some form of actual useful communication - game invitations and messaging would be nice.
@Klimbatize Troll!
@VeeFlamesNL because Ubisoft actually said the reason why wii u wasn't getting the game is because it couldn't run it. There are other examples, but you get the point
How many people get excited when a new app or an update comes to a console? That proves power/features DOES matter and SHOULD be talked about at E3
Also,Nintendo is failing because they aren't trying. While Microsoft makes a 1TB xbone and will eventually bust out a slimer and faster version, Nintendo does nothing. While xbox is busting out a covert forces and elite controller, the wii u pro controller doesn't even have a head phone jack. No ethernet port, no DVD or blu ray
You see what I'm saying?
Guys, what's the point of third party games when the system allegedly won't even be as powerful as the predominant third party consoles of this generation i.e. PS4? I don't think it would make much sense, since the more powerful consoles are the ones consumers will go to in order to play these kinds of games. Hasn't it always been like that, or am I mistaken?
That being said, just give me Mario and Zelda and I'll be satisfied
I really enjoy the WiiU and I look forward to playing it for quite a while longer. Whatever comes up next is whatever comes up next. I'm in no rush.
I don't care what they do with the NX as long as the Wii U doesn't get put off in favor of it. It'd be way too soon to can the Wii U altogether, there's still so much they can do, they just aren't doing it.
I just want games, plain and simple. I don't buy consoles for flashy graphics or new and "innovative gameplay". I want a video game, not a movie, not an "interactive experience". I want to sit down and play a game and enjoy my time. And no matter how many horrible decisions Nintendo makes their game developers know how to make games to be GAMES. And really thats enough for me to warrant a purchase.
I voted for Hybrid because what lots of people don't get is that Nintendo never was big on 3rd party games to begin with, even since the family and super family days, the only exception were the Japanese 3rd part exclusives such as Castlevania, Rockman and Final Fantasy.. If you look at what most people liked from those two consoles, you won't find western games like Batman or Madden.. Just Japanese games.
And this is why I want the NX to be a hybrid, because Nintendo have those Japanese 3rd party exclusives on their handhelds like Monhon, Bravely Default and Megaten, They just need a way to bring those kinds of games to their consoles as well, and a hybrid system is the best way to do so.
Oh yes, account system overhaul too please. NNIDs are terrible in terms of user-friendliness. Why the accounts can't be held in the cloud is not very understandable.
Tom, You forgot to vote for whether dual screen gaming should exist for NX. I think Dual Screen gaming really matters because of how easy it is to do simple things like maps etc.
And you also forgot to vote for backwards compatibility.
I voted for a dual handheld and console system, because I think we need a handheld to be available as a Wii U style controller- trust me you'll miss it if it goes- for miiverse, web exploring, and games like mario maker and splatoon.
As for games, I'm only really fussed for Japanese 3rd party games. I really don't think people buy Nintendo consoles to play GTA and Far Cry. Plus the dream of console and handheld unification must appeal to Japanese developers with the market the way it is now.
@Ninstarkof Doesn't really justify the bugs players reported, but whatever...
I do guess the Wii U should have gotten a 'Lite' version akin to the way the DS got the DS Lite. That's right; reduce the size of the system while adding in new features such as bigger storage memory and a better OS that would soon be released on the old systems.
If Nintendo does intend to release such a revision, I think that would proposal ng the Wii U's life. Heck, if it launches with the right games, then it could singlehandedly propel the Wii U.
I want them to try a Gamecube 2.0 with enough power to compete with Ps4/Xone, thus getting third party support. A traditional controller, and a better account system. Release gimmicks as add ons, not as the main feature of the system please! I don't want it to be an hybrid, beacause it won't be portable enough to be a handheld (due to it needing a bit more space to have things as a home console) and won't be enough as a home console (it will be a Wii U 2.0). It will be stuck in the middle, as something without a real identity.
I want a normal controller. Please stop the gimmicks and get back to the basics.
As much as I would like to have it, there's just no possible outcome where I see 3rd party developers supporting it, no matter what the NX is.
Anyways, I'm probably not buying the NX. I'm gonna focus on completing my Wii U library instead, and then playing some games on my PS4.
I want the NX to have a beefy spec and have the same architect as the other consoles. However, it has to be powerful enough to rival the successors of the PS4 and Xbox One. Nintendo can't make the same mistake with the NX as they did with the Wii U.
It'd be really great if the controller had a built in hand massager. Keep them digits in tip top condition, while you play!
@Splatburst that was the best gif I have seen in a while, saving that one lol
As long as they keep doing new things then I'm fine, kinda why I'm sticking with Nintendo.
It better be close to the power of the PS4 or goodbye third party support for the 3rd, arguably 4th system straight. Nintendo cannot afford to be a let down this time or it is also goodbye Nintendo as a home console making company.
I was in the 0% who voted for smartphone style games
That's not exactly what I want, but Nintendo need to go full in if they are gunning for the hardcore market, and my feeling is that it's just not in Nintendo's nature to make gritty testosterone fueled games. Plus PS4/X1 already have that market wrapped up and the Wii U showed there's no middle ground between casual and core.
So they should focus on making mobile games to get new customers, then upsell/offer the bigger versions of those games on NX.
I want to see double releases of games on NX and Wii U. That way they can sell to the 10 million user base on the Wii U (who may not want to buy a new console) while growing the user base of the NX with people who didn't get a Wii U and are interested in NX's gimmick.
@BLPs I'll get the drinks in................
My answers were a hybrid, Spring 2017 - later would be better, actually - revolutionary Nintendo games from well known and new IPs alike, and I'm feeling slightly concerned but still not without hope.
@Splatburst That GIF was pretty amazing.
Wii U Gamepad 2
It should actually be something of a cross between a 2DS and Wii U Gamepad, with user-expandable storage and access to all eShops, making it their ultimate portable. Also of course functions as a Gamepad, which frees Nintendo to sell a controller-free Wii U system.
@Splatburst ...I love you.
This may be kind of selfish of me, but I'm really hoping NX isn't a home console, and if it is that it isn't launched till like 2019. Cause I still haven't managed to pick up a Wii U yet,(even though I legit super want one) so I'd be a full two generations behind...
I don't know why , but I have a feeling that NX will be a kind of iPad , with NFC , Miiverse , Gyro Control and double the graphic capabilities of a standard 3DS . It will support IOS , Android , Amazon store ,and Steam and will feature Nintendo's new phone games . I also think it will come with a controller and some sort of innovation . However that's not what I want , I just want a console with power matching PS4 , NFC for amiibo , 3rd Party support and something that will make us go : WOW !!
I get the feeling this thing is going to basically be a PlayStation Vita and PSTV in one box.
What I'd love is a console and handheld that play the same games. Wii U powerful enough for me, and you can make a handheld that is capable of playing those games. I'd want to pay once for those games and have them available on both devices (which would be sold separately). I also want my VC titles to carry over at no ext a cost.
I don't really care about third parties on a purely personal level as I'll buy other machines. I don't mind mobile games, but I don't like how Nintendo have been making a lot of their longterm franchises very casual in the last few years. I'd love them to go back to make games for the longterm Nintendo fan.
Unfortunately just about the only part of this I can see happening is the two devices playing the same games.
Do we know if this is replacing the wii u? Maybe it's an innovative placeholder until their next home console is ready. Like a device that's meant to be played around a table like a board game. That could still be a dedicated gaming console.
The device's power and features are irrelevant unless Nintendo of America's attitude changes.
On an unrelated note, Jakks Pacific is really expanding their World of Nintendo line, including these figures for a late 2015 release:
My wish list would be
Pro type controller and optional tablet
More games on a consistent schedule instead of waiting 3-4 months
Bigger variety of games:sports,fps,batman,sim racers,non smash fighters,more open worlds,collectathons,arpgs and 3d beat em ups would be my choices maybe even an mmo
Virtual console with GameCube,mother 3 ,metal slader glory,air fortress ,unirally,stunt race fx,starwing,marvelous (aonuma a snes game) mischief makers,custom robo ,virtual boy,Saturn ,dreamcast and neo geo 64 and third party n64 games
Anything? all right, don,t laught at me, a new Pokemon Stadium with gyms of all regions to date, classic and new cups, minigames and of course, the rental pokemon option.
No gimmicks.
i want vr. the tech is all in the wii u, the integrated peripherals are mature, the industry would be excited, and i would be vindicated as a nintendo fanboy.
@kingofthesofa Make me one too, please. Is that whisky? I love whisky.
@FragRed "Plus Nintendo typically reveals a new console one year, showcases it the next and then releases it during that November."
Unless they have a surprise for everyone I am inclined to agree with you
I would like VC games to go be available quicker and more choice, I would really like if E.A will do a VC service as I think people will still play ice hockey, Desert strike and road rash games. I was thinking the other day how cool a Sim City game would be on the system if Nintendo makes it with EA and make unique. I really would like Nex to be the system that people sit up and take notice with, I thought the Wii was that console. However for me I won't get one on launch I'll probably wait about 6 months or so, I really feel like I got my fingers burnt by adopting 3DS and Wii-U on launch day only for the systems to get big price drops and besides I still have a huge back log of games to play from Wii and Wii-U. Sorry Nintendo.
AMALGAMATE!!!!!!!
I want to see a Wii U Gamepad with improved screen, analogue shoulder triggers, the octagon around the analogues so you can hit directions without thinking (was ace for Monkey Ball ) infact, heck just copy the gamecube analogues they were the best ever made on any console, gyroscope motion sensitivity, rumble, camera, speakers and microphone with usb / jack sockets for peripherals. There. Nintendo have already made all this stuff, but for some reason, annoying miss one or 2 features to stop them nailing it.
Less revolution and more evolution on what they have already made. Lets face it, Sony and Microsoft will just copy them no matter what but on a more powerful system, they will attract the majority.
@Megapokepaul I hope not.
I would love a "traditional" console similar to the Xbox One and PS4, but I doubt that's ever going to happen. Nintendo has been doing their own thing since the Nintendo 64, and I'm convinced they're going to stay like that until the very end. Let's say the NX is on par (if not better, in terms of hardware) with the Xbone and PS4, I doubt it'll help much. I don't think third-party developers will flock to it, making all their multi-console titles available for PS4, Xbone, NX, and PC, and I don't think the average gamer who hasn't owned a Nintendo console in years will say "Of all available consoles and PC options, I choose the NX for my next installment of Call of Duty."
Nintendo needs to keep doing their own thing, and focus on high quality games, but make it accessible. If they want to continue with this gimmicky controllers, fine, but PLEASE make all 1st-party game accessible with a classic controller. Yes the Wiimote and Wii U gamepad (and even the DS dual screen) has added some benefits to particular games), but I would like the option to forgo the benefits (if only for a short gaming session) because I'd like to sit and play with a classic controller.
If NX is really doing this "unified console and handheld" thing, I would LOVE to able to play our DS and 3DS games on our TVs, much like the Super Game Boy and the Gamecube GBA player. I REALLY miss being able to play Pokemon on my TV.
@Splatburst Best Gif Ever
Well I guess here's my opportunity to post this again:
https://www.facebook.com/iNCEPTIONALSOURCE/posts/706543209491500
LOL
Just make a strong console to attract more 3rd party developers and keep up the good work with quality first party development.
Backwards compatibility so that when my console breaks one day I can still get a system able to play my huge Wii U library
Im really sure NX will be released not earlier than christmas 2017. We will get the first informations around the e3 2016. Usually NX should be first announced 2016, like nintendo officially said. (it was only announced now because of the mobile games and nintendo was scared that the people would think that they will quit the console market) And like they said very often... they have no clue what features NX will have yet. So a release in 2016 is very very unrealistic^^
and 2017 the wii u will be 5?! years old i think. So its the common time^^
I want a unified system that will allow Nintendo to make games more efficiently and me to no longer miss out on portable titles. I don't want super powerful hardware that will jack the price up.
I'd very much like something hybrid-esque, but I'd like something innovative as well if possible. As far as the game lineup goes, I want to see large scale AAA games and creative ideas, the kind of lineup we used to get in the 1996-2010 era. Third party would be nice, but for the most part I don't care.
As for the release date, I'd be fine with Holiday 2017 if the 2016 lineup wasn't looking so bare, the last thing Nintendo needs is another game drought leading up to their next console. Holiday 2016/Spring 2017 would probably be appropriate.
I'm hoping the NX will either have an offscreen controller or be compatible with the Wii U GamePad as I love being able to carry on playing when the main TV is in use. I know I could just put the console in another room and play there but I like not having to be locked away from the rest of the family just to play a game.
I'd like to know that if I bought into NX early, as I did with the Wii U, that my investment won't get replaced by another console less than four years later (assuming this actually does come out Holiday 2016 as the rumors have all predicted). Watching Sony and Microsoft really hit their stride with their current gen consoles at e3... It was hard not to feel burned by Nintendo with regards to the lack of new Wii U content. It was even harder watching Reggie with his BS answers about how we only show real content that'll come out this year... Then why did we see Zelda last year... Or yoshi almost two years ago? Hell, even xenoblade was announced when the console launched and we're still waiting on that one in the states. Yes, nintendo is losing my trust with their brand.
I'd like to see a console that has plenty of 1st and 3rd party games. Unfortunately, if the NX is less powerful than the PS4, then Nintendo will be unlikely to win back the 3rd parties. The main reason why I'm against a hybrid system is that they'll be restricted by the amount of power that can be packed into a handheld.
The thing is Iwata-San only mentioned the NX as a pre-empt to quell concerns that Nintendo are abandoning dedicated consoles following the announcement of the partnership with DeNA. If he didn't say anything, the forums would be filled with 'this is the end of nintendo' (moreso than they already are lol). Tho I'm sure he said it more for the investors and shareholders than forum-goers. Essentially, we'll find out more about the NX when Nintendo are ready. Any sooner is good too.
I'm fairly certain it will have a controller based on the bendable/digital paper display.
Some people are going to be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo disappointed in a years time when the NX is fully announced and it is nothing like they wanted Personally I'll look forward to that date
As for me...I'll keep the expectations in check...as a HandheldGuru, I'd like to see a new handheld, a semi-HD or HD follow up to the 3DS hitting next year. With a Wii U successor hitting in late 2017 (maybe 2018) and the NX being the ambiguity, with NX referring to the connection the two units will have together. They won't be a hybrid, but they'll be the most interconnected Nintendo Console/Handheld, ever. With many individual games exclusive to the handheld and the console, but with plenty that are cross-buy or connect in some way, shape or form to make this "NX" two separate, but two connected handheld/console experience for Nintendo fans.
To be honest, as long as the games are good fun as usual - I'll buy it. Here's hoping they don't ditch the Amiibo support, but we know that's not even possible. They love Amiibo like we do (not including the headaches that come with selling/buying them of course) and an Amiibo game (a proper one) would be awesome to launch with. Also, if they bring all their IP's into the fray with NX on launch day - they'd have my soul. Anything else they come up with would just be the icing on the cake.
I don't care about power or graphics or whatever as I'll buy anything that appeals to me in a fun gameplay aspect, but if there's a great online system, that would be enough for me.
I love Wii U and hope it is supported for years to come. I don't cares about NX because I doubt I'll ever buy another console after this gen. I'm just too old to play games as much as I used to.
Good games. Make them, and I'll come. I don't care who makes them. Oh, and a good metroid game.
Since you said ask for anything, I want the controller to be a headset that allows me to control the games by thought.
@Kirk That actually looks pretty awesome.
@Rhydas Wouldn't it be great if nintendo made a free game that utilizes all of the existing amiibo? As in, letting you play as those amiibo? Like an epic 3d platformer or something. The first of its kind figure based game, that is FREE and makes money simply off of figure sales?
@ferrers405
Erm won't you need motion for backwards compatibility? :/
@starman292 not really, just a few games can be played only by move controls.
A system as powerful as ps4 and Xbox one, with the same amount of third party games, no stupid gimmick controls just a normal controller...If they don't doo this stuff, the console will be just another failure.
I want NX to be a console for gamers, a nice new feature to pull people in, to have powerful hardware, a redefined software expierence, a higher quality pro controller as main controller, a redesigned more compact wii u gamepad as optional controller for wii u backwards compatabillity and the last one is: ditch the wii branding come up with something new.
i know you can do it Nintendo.
i want moar squidz
@Torterror ohh and good conection between NX and portables/smartphones.
@9cirno9 Spla2n
I voted for the hybrid idea. I basically want the NX to be both a home console and a handheld that share the same OS and the same library. How often does a Wii U game gets released and 3DS users complain, why not for the 3DS? Or more often, vice versa, since the 3DS gets a lot more games? There will also be more games to play, as Nintendo's manpower won't be stretched trying to build up 2 separate libraries. I think it's also a good idea to have the option to buy them separately, but maybe also have a bundle where you can buy both at a discount. VGCHARTZ also put up an article suggesting the home console will use High Capacity SD Cards instead of optical media, because discs are impractical for the form factor of a handheld, and the concept is that they both have to be able to play the same games, right? They also went on to say that these cards will be able to access the appropriate assets for what platform you're playing it on, so that while the portable will be able to play them, at the same time the visuals won't look like trash on the console.
Next, I voted that the NX should be released when it's ready. It's imperative that Nintendo gets a proper account system set up before it launches. The way I understand it, if my Vita were to break suddenly, I can buy a new one, log into my PSN account, put my Vita memory into the new device and be able to play it right away with all the memory intact. With the 3DS and Wii U, your account is tied to your system, so it's far more of a headache. If your old system still works at all, you can use your Internet connection to transfer your account over, but if your 3DS or Wii U were broken completely, how could you transfer your purchases over? I don't know, but Nintendo customer service had better have something in place to recover your purchases in that event. I'm not likely to use such features, but it would be convenient for a lot of gamers to have on screen notifications instead of having to boot up miiverse to see if a friend sent them any messages. Also have friend invites to help set up matches in online multiplayer games as well as voice chat. It also needs to be faster as well, especially after making a purchase on the eshop, something I do personally care about. It takes forever to process a Wii U eshop purchase.
Next, I voted for it to bring in the third party blockbusters that the Wii U and Wii didn't. I'm extremely skeptical about this possibility, however. Third parties are going to see how Nintendo have treated Devil's Third in America and are not going to want to support the NX in any way.
Lastly, I voted that I'm not sure what to think. I think it will be the hybrid system I want. I'm not so sure Nintendo will get the features in place that a lot of gamers want. Like I said, I'm extremely skeptical about third party blockbusters, after this Devil's Third debacle, I'd be surprised if third parties trusted Nintendo enough to even port low tier games to the NX.
@Splatburst Give this man a beer. That gif is literally all I want.
@ferrers405 - buy a PS4.
I just want a system that is backwards compatible so I can still play all the good games, and have them all intertwined with Miiverse with online and offline multiplayer. No always online or free-to-play. Some DLC is ok, but not overdone to where it is a sneak around to micros-transactions, and no monthly subscriptions. With that, I'm happy.
What I want is three things...
Great Nintendo games that Nintendo is famous for.
A successful system with a varied medium to large library that is repected and desired.
Games made for gamers and not for casuals.
Boom!!!!
@VeeFlamesNL
Yeah its an "interesting" choice of game.
So much NX banter to endure before iwata comes out other the darn thing
I still struggle to see how it could work as a hybrid—especially how the console version would suffer. If Nintendo knows how to pull it off, though... shoot.
@JaniN83 I am loving your enthusiasm for the NX, without knowing what it is. True Nintendo fan!
What do I expect from the Nintendo NX? To be totally honest, not much.
I just wonder, is the NX going to be that "third pillar" like what the DS was when that was released all those years ago? They still kept the GBA going for ages but the DS sold so well that they cut off the GBA line eventually.
Is this going to be a "test run" of sorts to see how it stacks up and whether it gets some good support? And then eventually kill off the WiiU/3DS/both?
To be honest, I'm not all that interested in the NX. To be fair, I don't own a single Nintendo console at all now. Sure they have the best 1st party titles, but when the good ones (like Zelda, Metroid etc.) are usually only 1 per system (or not at all, I'm looking at you F-Zero) with next to no third party support, it's hard to justify £200-£300 on a paper weight. :/
@HandheldGuru97 Comments like these are cute. Yeah, no way NX is a Wii U replacement or anything. Not like Iwata just a few weeks ago was telling shareholders that Nintendo is focused on making sure Wii U customers are happy before they release NX. That didn't happen a t a l l.
I'm worried.. It honestly feels like it'll be both too little and too late.. Consumers don't have a whole lot of trust left in Nintendo to be able to create a home console worth investing in anymore..
I want a console with no loading times and where all games are playable within 5 seconds from pressing the power button.
new games basically:
a new Mario RPG. another Pikimin. a Pilotwings reboot.
console FE games, like very large truly-epic-Suidoken-like FE games.
more IP blends like PnDZSMB and FESMT and HW
unified eshop with crossplay.
but mostly new games and new ideas like they always bring
LOL at people saying power race. The one and the 4 are nothing but old gen gimped class C laptop standard consoles. At least Nintendo is trying something new every time - motion controllers, tablet like controller. Hopefully they keep innovating.
It's a home console - lots of people who have a Wii U won't buy it because they just bought a Wii U for Zelda U, also can only be BC if it's a PPC (Unlike the PS4 and X1 which are x86-64) and has GP support. Which A)makes it harder to port to and B) requires a $150 Gamepad for lots of games
It's a hybrid - no third party is ever going to develop for it, it will be in the exact same situation as the Wii U and Wii were in, they can't just port x game over, they actually have to do major changes just for it to work. It won't be as powerful as the PS4/X1 and will lose third party games that are on the PS4/X1. If it was to be as powerful as the PS4 or X1 then it will cost at least $600 for parts alone.
It's a handheld - becomes 3ds successor, if it comes out in 2016 it gives the 3DS the normal 5-year lifespan of any other console. n3ds owners might not get on the bandwagon right away.
Innovating implies that whatever they're doing is something the rest of the industry adopts. And that really didn't happen with the tablet controller, 3D, or Wii remote aside from inspire copycats that also didn't take off. No, it's not innovation unless it truly changes how we play games or think about playing games. What Nintendo does is the very definition of gimmicks. Splatoon? Innovation of the shooter genre. Wii U? Console with a gimmick. A fun console, but a gimmick that has proven to be a failure.
@CTs_Lieutenant I already have one, but I want to Nintendo to have the same success if not more because I really like their games too.
This is what I would like:
A homeconsole/handheld hybrid (so that I only have to buy 1 system)
A 5 years lifespan
As much (or even more) power then PS4
All the Nintendo games we want (made with real care, and for gamers)
All the strong third-party titles
All the good downloads, at normal prices
A proper account-system. Download once, keep forever
All the old Nintendo games from any system available as cheap dowloads
All those old games available from day 1
250$/Euro at the highest
A VERY stable console. No more crashing
Accepting harddiscs that don't have a seperate energy plug (no more need for a y-cable)
That's all!
"Innovating implies that whatever they're doing is something the rest of the industry adopts"
I agree. It even goes further then that. For example: In Phantom hourglass they joked about people who didn't like touch-control. Spirit tracks was also touch-controlled, but after that they just went back to button control. In other words: it wasn't even a innovation for them, just a little thingy to shake things up before going back to buttons.
@Operative That's why at this point, from a business perspective I think it would be best if Nintendo just created a normal console and began to regain trust from the consumers and fans.
@Aromaiden I totally agree. At the very least, they should stick to the gamepad and make it an optional accessory to the next console so they can continue working on ideas for it, or at least use it for Off Tv play. Instead of coming up with something completely different yet again.
@project_dolphin gimmicks aren't inherently bad. But they are not helping Nintendo at all. They are hurting them, at least with the wii u they are. And the 3DS 's gimmick has proven worthless in getting people to buy it. But that's what they are, gimmicks, intended to get people to buy the console.not bad by nature, but tiresome, especially after its shown to not help Nintendo.
Some of these comments are fun to read. (In a good way) And @Ninstarkof why did you say Unity? Why? You could have said the Witcher 3 or MKX or Batman Arkham Knight. But you used the game that ran like garbage as an example? Odd
First off, the system has to at least match the power of Xbox One, or they will miss opportunities from 3rd party publishers once again. Second...a strong launch library with more than just 3 or 5 games and no games that have already been released on previous systems (it needs all new and plenty of exclusives). Next, have the store up and running on day one, with plenty of goodies on the virtual console (some new titles for starters) and some good indie games (that are new or exclusive). Don't make people wait over a year for the next big game (Zelda with 3 years is too long of a wait), have a Zelda Title, Mario Adventure, Animal Crossing, Metroid, Mario Kart and Smash Bros ready to be released within at least the first year of the life. Also, no gimmicks...just a regular controller that doesn't make people feel like monkeys dancing around the room. New IP's...gamecube had a lot of new IP's and Wii had quite a few...Splatoon and Wonderful 101 were almost the only new things available on Wii U. Also, the console needs to be a good price...no more than $300. Anything higher than that can tread people away from it and pick up the X-box One at $350, plus the PS4 will probably have a price drop by then too. The console also needs to have a decent size hard drive...you shouldn't have to worry about running out of room for downloads within a year and have to erase to make room for new (Wii's was filling up channel boxes and it ran up fast). If this next console has some good games, good graphics, various games (Baseball, football, tennis, boxing, racing, simulation, rpg, strategy, puzzle, action, adventure and horror and of course platform and party) then I'll be in and buy it on day one. If there is barely any sports games that aren't the cartoony kids version, then I may just not get the console at all...I really hate having to wait 5-6 months now for something new to play on the Wii U, but I still love the system, but probably won't pay a high price for another nintendo console that will struggle again. Nintendo needs to listen to people because I don't think they can afford another flop of a system.
I want virtual reality, but since Nintendo shot themselves in the foot by stating that VR isn't fun, and that it's just tech, I guess the 3DS XL will be my final venture with Nintendo and I'll find a new gaming company to suit my needs.
@AggressiveEarwax 1st rule of predicting and understanding Nintendo: Never listen to what they say about other gaming areas.
Being as prideful as they are, Nintendo occasionally judges other gaming areas and will usually show a lack of interest in them. Although in the future, if they find profit in that area, they will take back everything they said, and participate in it. A classic and recent example of this is the Mobile Market.
I voted for the hybrid, because it's the greatest way to deal with the great complaints that many of you seem to forget here... Game droughts. Also, it would help to take your console game on the go as one unit, unlike PS4 and Vita. They have their sights on the mobile market, so, unless they are confident they can bring out more power, they are trading power for the masses in the NX. Bringing the mobile market to our consoles is key and to do that, indicators say they got something in mind. Inspired by Steam, digital sales rising than retail... Good signs.
@TwilightAngel I only used AC unity due to the statement Ubisoft made. All the people who say power doesn't matter is wrong. Remember when the wii u got that massive update and the anime app? People were excited about features of the system and not actual games. You need power for everything, people. Deeeeeeeeeeeeeal with it
Also, third parties report that they like the NX, when they were given a look, so that's a good sign.
I don't see why people want a unified system so badly. What benefit is there to that? I feel like concentrating and making a good one or the other will be superior to mashing them together for no reason. A unified system would be mediocre IMO.
@N1ntendodo The problem with that, is that they also said the same about the Wii U.
Let's not forget they also do not want to "expand the existing hardware." They are making a real jump here with the NX.
@ferrers405 all that plus cross buy and backwards compatibility for Virtual Console /eShop purchases from Wii/WiiU/DS/3DS. And backwards compatibility of all disc based Nintendo systems, from GameCube to Wii U. Make this the ultimate Nintendo system.
@Aromaiden but the Wii U isn't really a hybrid. Did anyone forget their merging of the console and handheld divisions earlier? Once the hybrid comes out, that's it. No more second unit like a 3DS, because it's part of the hybrid. Ergo, rest of the effort can be used more to make games.
@Ninstarkof A statement from Ubisoft? Are you serious? And you trusted it? No one needs a statement from any dev to know the Wiiu isn't powerful to run any of the current gens games third party are releasing. And i don't think anyone here doesn't know that. But i do know some people here thinks power isn't needed (which is hilarious!),so i'll give you that. I'm actually shocked people think like that.
Nintendo released the 3DS is March 2011 and for NX, 2016 seems a little early. Spring 2017 would be perfect! However, the disadvantage to this, is that some people may wait until christmas and due this, it may result in less sales at launch.
The Nx needs to be on par with ps4 and Xbox one graphically to get 3rd party support as they obviously consider it too much work to have to reprogram their games to suit a lower specced machine like is happening with the Wii U. I just hope this happens. Nintendo didn't have a problem keeping up with other home consoles graphically before the Wii so they can do it. If they try to pull off something too gimmicky without the horse power to back it up 3rd party's still aren't going to port their games over then Nintendo will be in big trouble and that will obviously spell the end for them as a home console manufacturer. There is a lot riding on the Nx if they don't get it right it will be their final console just hope they turn things around.
There is no way NX is a "third pillar", Nintendo does not have the development resources to support 3 separate consoles concurrently.
As far as third party goes if the system sells it will attract developers, the challenge for Nintendo is getting them to create games for the launch to build buzz and excitement.
They already said they aren't trying to compete with Sony and MS so people are only setting themselves up for disappointment if they are expecting a powerhouse console.
@N1ntendodo It really depends on what the NX, whether a hybrid or just a plain console, the one thing that is for certain, is that Nintendo will have to work very hard and be dedicated in order to turn around the negative effect this generation has had on them.
@Ninstarkof Power isn't the reason why Unity didn't have Unity support, because the Wii U is getting Unity support and that been confirmed for 4 MONTHS. It isn't Nintendo fault, it was Unity fault for AC Unity not coming to the Wii U because Unity couldn't figure out how to make Unity compatible to it even though it was possible. Also are you actually taking anything Ubisoft seriously? I mean are you being ironic because I really hope you are. Now stop making yourself look like a 12 year old Slowpoke.
@Mr_Zurkon "they are expecting a powerhouse console" It has to be cause they need third party dev's back. Cause no console can survive without it.Cause no third party dev will ever make a port for a console that's weaker than the PS4 and Xbone. That's a reason a very good one.
@Chaoz "I mean are you being ironic because I really hope you are. Now stop making yourself look like a 12 year old Slowpoke." Jesus even i'm not that mean.
@TwilightAngel Nintendo is not going to go head to head with them and they have said as much.
Another console In that space is just going to be white noise, Nintendo will have to do something different to stand out from the other two.
@Mr_Zurkon Nintendo may not desire to compete again MS and Sony, but as long as they partake in the same market, they will always be competing against each other. Competing over the the consumer's attention and business. That's just how business works.
@Mr_Zurkon "Nintendo may not desire to compete again MS and Sony, but as long as they partake in the same market, they will always be competing against each other" Boom! Thank you @Aromaiden! Took the words right out of mouth brother.
@Aromaiden @twilghtangel actually it doesn't, That's like saying Kia competes against Ferrari just because they are both car companies.
You guys are going to be sorely disappointed if you expect a PS4 killer from Nintendo.
I just want it to have good games. Not much else matters to me.
I want an innovative hook, hybrid handheld and console (while that's not a priority, I'm just tired of Nintendo spreading themselves so thin games are lower quality), and of course a wonderful unified system that includes Miiverse, eshop, friend lists, and club Nintendo in one interconnected package.
@JLPick Good point about pricing, that is going to be a huge issue if it's more than what the current gen systems are selling at.
@Mr_Zurkon Game consoles aren't the same as cars. Cars are very different because of how they vary so much (which introduces several types of companies that target specific groups of people) and the amount of different processes that are involved in purchasing a car. They have many different types of cars and the comparison you provided for a Kia against a Ferrari is a very poor one considering that their targeted groups are vastly different, so they have no need to compete. A better comparison would be something like, Toyota and Honda, as they are fairly similar and target similar groups.
Game consoles on the other hand are much more simplistic and in a way are similar to toys. They are in a much easier budget range and are far more simple to purchase. So comparing games to cars is not a fair comparison as their market is far more varied. Unlike the gaming market, in which the three main companies target the same general group and compete over them.
So a better way to phrase it would be, that as long a company take part in a certain market, they will be always be competing against similar companies who pursue the same group of consumers.
@Operative
I tend to disagree with the remote not being innovative or taking off. Motion control has become an essential part of mobile design. It's still expanding as well.
@Aromaiden Again read what Nintendo has stated publicly thus far. Who knows, they may try to out do Sony by being the most powerful system out there. Can they do that while still being competitive price wise? Unlikely. A system that launches early/mid life cycle for PS4/XB1 that is more expensive then either one is most likely DOA no matter what is under the hood.
Since polls and comments do not correlate well with one another, I'll just say this: Release a portable with a receiver box for TV/monitor use (and possibly a disc drive attachment, a la Mac Mini, for retail titles), also give the controller/system equal parts Wii Remote and Gampad functions with some added surprises, and it'll be a hit, guaranteed.
@Mr_Zurkon I can't help but wonder how Nintendo will manage to avoid competition from other companies yet at the same time attract their customers. Nintendo will definitely have their work cut out for them.
@Aromaiden good question, fortunately they have, in my opinion anyway, the best 1st party lineup of games so they still have that to play up.
I really don't want a hybrid console but i wouldn't mind a 3DS player. I still think handheld gaming and console games are to different to be a hybrid. My 3DS stays home 99% of the time so having it play like the GBA player on the GameCube would be nice.
@Acarie man I was about to say that. Honestly I would love to play my 3ds games through some new system. Heck just make a 3ds system and just let me transfer my stuff over and I'd be set.
Nintendo better get it right with NX, or I'm done. NX better have the games, more killer exclusives that Wii U had. They better have all their internal studios working on some killer apps for this thing, and it better have some killer launch games, or I won't buy it at launch.
Please DO NOT call it Wii NX, Wii 3, Wii U2, 3Wii, Wacky Wii, Wii The Next Generation, Wii Plus, Wii N, Wii NES, Wii SNES, Wii 64, Wii Cube, Wii Thingy, Wii Willy WiiWii Wicky Wii Wommbally Wii of WiiWiiWii, or ANYTHING containing the word Wii!
Come up with an original name that shows people it's a new console, and not an add-on. So many people thought the Wii U was a gamepad add-on for the Wii.
@JesWood13 One thing though, can it really have better exclusives than the Wii U. The Wii U actually did great with exclusives and really only missed out on Metroid on Animal Crossing, but other than that, it has everything. Exclusive wise at least.
@RantingThespian Nintendo really wanted the Wii to be their main brand name. Similar to how Sony has Playstation and MS has the Xbox, Nintendo probably wanted Wii to be theirs. As they don't have a main brand name.
@Project_Dolphin The question is, can a company as large as Nintendo market their product (NX) without competing against Sony and MS. For a company as large as Nintendo, it sounds like something incredibly difficult.
Fair point, but it just doesn't seem possible for a Company to target a specific demographic without innately competing with all other similar companies who target that same demographic. Similar to how the Big 3 compete.
These are my hopes:
1: Mainly 1st party games
2:backwards compatibility
3: Probably impossible but forwards compatibility
4: Some 3rd party games
5: Not many connections with ios android or Microsoft (as in phones)
6: Thanksgiving 2017 release
7: Home and portable council
8: Eshop
9: Miiverse
10: Longer battery life 5-12 hours?
11: Amiibo compatibility
12: Glorious HD
13: Awesome name
14: Amazing games
15: 3D
All I can think of right now
In reference to the first poll question: The NX has been all but confirmed as a home console. Reggie referred to it as such in one of his interviews at E3, and the Metroid Prime creator heavily implied that if a full home console Metroid game was to be made, it would be developed for the NX instead of the Wii U (implying that NX is indeed the successor to the Wii U).
All that said, Nintendo has a near-insurmountable hill to climb with their next console. If it's another gimmicky console that lacks the power of its competitors', then Nintendo will again be stuck without third parties, stuck supporting a console by themselves. Which, judging from the way the Wii U is faring on that design philosophy, can most likely spell failure for the NX.
Then again, even if they do everything right, even if they release a console more powerful than PS4 and Xbox One, win back third parties, and release a gimmick-free console with a host of solid launch titles, they still face the significant obstacle of launching mid-generation, when both the PS4 and Xbox One are hitting their stride. Which means those consoles will already have a host of great games available to play, and meanwhile Nintendo will be starting from zero.
All that is to say the odds are significantly stacked against Nintendo. They don't exactly have consumer confidence right now and they alienate a greater number of their most devoted fans by the day. While I do hope Nintendo can pull a rabbit out of their hats on this one, they've got a LOT of work to do before the NX has any prayer of being a success.
As I've stated before, it took Sony an entire generation to win back gamers and third parties after the pitiful PS3 launch. Microsoft is still recovering from theirs this generation too. Nintendo has that much work to do within the next year or two, and it hardly looks like they're even trying!
Wall of Crazy Wishlist:
"Go on, ask for anything you want." Really? Does that mean Nintendo is monitoring this thread and that what's said here could make an actual difference?
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Okay, here goes anyway, my personal list:
1) A traditional UI (joypad). This is the most essential component for addressing other concerns such as third party support. Leave the innovation for the GAMES this time around, Nintendo.
2) A close partnership with Sega and other Japanese publishers (even EXCLUSIVE partnership(s). Think it wouldn't make a difference if Sega was once again making games for a single console? Think again; such an alliance could change the balance of the industry and revitalize the Japanese side of it.
3) A unified User Account system so if you buy/download a game on one system, you can play it on another without having to repurchase it.
4) Western third party support. I'll be frank; many of these types of games aren't my cup of tea and it's part of why I love Nintendo's differences, but I understand the need for them to help strengthen the NX's library.
5) A console lifespan of at least 8-10 years this time around; the Wii U is a disaster on that front.
6) A revamped Virtual Console with better support from both Nintendo and third parties, every possible retro platform and game represented, and lower prices (seriously, $5 for Super Mario Bros. or $10 for an N64 game are big reasons why the service has lackluster enthusiasm; Steam, PSN, and Xbox Live are handing Nintendo their butts in this area).
7) A dedicated console. I get that many folks here are wanting a hybrid, but think it through; local multiplayer has always been a staple of Nintendo platforms and such an arrangement could hamper that big-time. Accessories cost money, and the more expensive they are (as in devices you can play away from home), the less likely you're going to have an extra three or four lying around when friends come over. Leave the portable gaming for dedicated portables.
8) A broader, more genre-diversified library of games. The Wii U has had no turn-based Strategy games like the Fire Emblem or Advance Wars series despite the Gamepad being PERFECT for such a game in hot seat multiplayer. It hasn't had an original Zelda game (yet...and don't hold your breath regarding the already announced one ending up on Wii U, either at this point), nor a Metroid title. The NX needs Nintendo to pull out all the stops to ensure gamers of all tastes have something to play and that its beloved franchises get adequate representation this time around.
@AdanVC they said the same thing about the ds when it came out. That it wasnt meant to take over for the gameboy advance. "dont worry, its not meant to replace anything"... Any company in their position will tell you that. They dont want you to abandon buying wii u and 3ds titles. So they say something like that "3rd pillar" statement, to keep you as interested as possible in the current console before you stop caring because something shiny and new is coming.
@FlaygletheBagel The one advantage Nintendo has, is they have access to some of the most well known and influential IPs ever. Any other company would be happy to have the IPs as well known as Nintendo's, and in reality they're probably the reason Nintendo has managed to survive as long as they have.
Hopefully they can use their IPs to their advantage and give themselves a hopeful start when they unveil the NX.
Please let's not start an argument.-Morpheel
As long as the NX doesnt scare away 3rd party publishers, Ill be happy. I dont care for most 3rd party games, I am more of a 1st party guy when it comes to Nintendo. But I want the install base to be healthy, and that means attracting the people who do like 3rd party titles.
@Chaoz You cannot be serious. Unity cannot, in any shape or form, run on a Wii U. That piece of garbage can't lock in 30 fps on PS4. Unless it were a completely dumbed down game with fewer mapped NPCs and running at 720P, it would be hanging out at sub 20 fps on Wii U.
@KillScottKill Yes, it can. Look it up, it coming this fall.
Assuming it's a Wii U replacement (even though both the Wii U and 3DS are outdated need to be replaced with new hardware).
Doesn't have to be as powerful hardware wise as the PS4 but at least better than the Xbone.
No region lock.
ACTUAL ACCOUNT BASED DIGITAL PURCHASING SYSTEM COME ON WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU NINTENDO STOP WITH THIS YEAR 2000 ANTI CONSUMER CRAP.
No more of this censorship Ponyta manure. Have chat as open as the PS4 and Xbone.
How about you start advertising the system as an actual gaming machine for hardcore gamers as well, and not just as a family and kids entertainment machine. You are shooing away ports of AAA 3rd party games that every system profits from.
Stop treating the hardcore gaming market like the plague.
You can have your hardware gimmick if you want but make it optional. Nobody wants mandatory gimmick hardware like the Kinect (we saw how well that worked out for the Xbone).
Most importantly it has to NOT BE WII 3.
Whatever NX is (if it is replacing the Wii U), I am hoping my digital library will transfer over at no cost. Including my Wii VC, I must have 240+ games
@KillScottKill Wii U is listed as one of the supported platforms on the front page of Unity's own website. (Along with X360, PS3, and even Vita)
I'm intrigued by the idea of either a hybrid console, or something completely new, but I'm not keen on the increasing move towards mobile style policies and game designs. I just want Nintendo to bring their ideas to fruition with minimal outside meddling and little or no DRM/microtransaction contamination.
I still think it was a mistake to enter into a capital alliance with DeNA, rather than a business partnership. We'll see whether or not that backfires wildly...
@Aromaiden Yeah it's just one of those ideas I've been throwing around for the last wee while
@NinjaWaddleDee I can't imagine a free game would be of very high quality (though it's Nintendo so I wouldn't be surprised) but if they did make it a 3D platformer that incorporates all the Amiibo, then yes. Nintendo would have yet another instant money-maker. I would LOVE it if it were a new IP that worked like a kind of Nintendo world crossover for all the Amiibo. A cross-world adventure perhaps that saw you trying to put things right? And each character plays true to their franchise in terms of attacks, movements, ect. Not to mention familiar enemies from each franchise appearing too.
I suppose all that is going a little too far, but you have to admit that it's something to think about.
@Aromaiden Definitely. They need all of their big sellers in attendance. At the bare minimum, a true 3D Mario, probably a 2D Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash and so on. The Wii U had most of those things and still didn't sell well, so Nintendo's IPs, while rich and coveted, are starting to lose even their selling power (at least when they're the only things you can play on a 350 dollar console). Again, I hope they figure it out, but it's a precarious position they're in.
@AdanVC A good baseline for judging comments like this, is asking a simple question, something along the lines of:
"Did he kinda have to say this?"
If the answer is yes, then caution is in order, because chances are, the statement might be only superficially true.
Like say, Iwata could hardly say, they would abandon the WiiU and 3DS in late 2016 ... so kinda had to come up with something else. Now, I don't think they will abandon it, but I think their support will look something like this:
The NX maybe just a third pillar then, but it will be the pillar seeing all or the majority of the first party support and (hopefully finally) of the third party support as well. That would kinda be a mission accomplished scenario ... not scaring people away from the WiiU/3DS prematurely, not flatout lying about the company's commitment and getting the NX underway.
I want it to come with a Yoshi equipped with laser beams and Urban Champion II: The Other Side of the Street.
@Ralek85 The MK8 DLC team was moved to smartphone development so sadly I don't think that's possible
@PlywoodStick @Chaoz Pretty sure Assassin's Creed Unity is being talked about, not the game engine.
This is a bit complex, but hear me out:
I would like for Nintendo to make their own digital distribution client (just like Steam) which could be installed on any PC. In addition to this, Nintendo would still make their own home and portable consoles which would house the same client inside the OS. User accounts would work just like with Steam.
This way nobody would be forced to buy dedicated Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, but for people who don't want to fiddle with computers, there would still be the option to buy those as well.
All first party games would work on all platforms as a default, but some games could require certain peripherals (like dual screens ala DS, the Wii U GamePad, Wiimotes, Balanceboard, Gamecube controller). Every controller would work on the PC client with appropriate adapters etc.
(I tried to post this earlier but somehow it never appeared here)
|sf>I frequently read Nintendo Life, but I haven't posted since the era of Wii Virtual Console reviews. All we have heard from Nintendo on NX so far is that they want to reward players for helping others.
Nintendo needs to keep an eye on the bigger picture, rather than just chasing after Playstation and Microsoft. Nintendo has not yet implimented its trophy/bragging system, but from a good portion of the gaming public's viewpoint, a machine without a trophy system is nothing. The most important thing that Nintendo needs to do is to jump onto that bandwagon, but in a "Nintendo-like" way. That shouldn't require new hardware to impliment.
In my interpretation, it sounds as if the replacement for Club Nintendo will be a "Skylander-type account" trophy system in which you can play multiplayer and all the players playing can earn rewards. Players could even cooperate to help the other players earn rewards. You could go over to a friends' Wii U, log into your account as player two, play multiplayer, and earn rewards on your account for helping them unlock Level 5-5 for example.
Nintendo should not release the NX before the new reward system and the reward system should pave the way toward helping the future NX release.
In the past, the gaming community has relied almost solely on "improved graphics" to upgrade to its newest gaming system. However, we've almost reached the limits as to how well the human eye can perceive "improved graphics."
As for what I think the NX will be, Nintendo has to be careful about how they approach this. Most long-term gamers have seen attempts to combine console and handheld: Turbo Express, Nomad, and Vita. In the instance of the first two, owning the machine didn't add any new games to the mix--it was just a vehicle to play your same games on the go. Nintendo should NEVER go that route and avoid it like the plague.
Instead, the software for the console and the handheld need to work like SSB U and 3DS or like peanut butter and jelly, i.e. you can enjoy both flavors as individuals, but nothing beats the value of combining them together to form a complete experience. This is not strictly "cross-play," but instead it's "cross-content" like how you used to link the Gameboy Mario Tennis to the N64 to unlock players in both games.
Triggers and not just buttons for L and R
I just want Nintendo to make SNES 2 and dish out them 16 bit gems instead.
@JaniN83 |sf>To use Clu Clu Land as an example, nope. The game is built for two players. Your friend owns Clu Clu Land on their account, so you can play Clu Clu Land on your machine and earn trophies on it. The games that you play together are based on what is downloaded on the hard drive, but you can only be logged onto one hardware system at a time.
However, when your friend logs off of your system and leaves, Clu Clu Land leaves the hard drive, just as if it were a Skylander physically returning with its owner to its house.
@Grumblevolcano Well, maybe not MK8 then, or another team, or maybe they won't stay on mobil forever.
I think a service similar to Steam would be great.
@ferrers405 yes I agree third party games are one of the main reasons I am increasingly tempted to buy xBox. (dun dun dun)
Just my two pence worth on NX and Nintendo. I think NX will be the first in a family of systems incorporating the same architecture , that you can use / access from one cross platform account. The first iteration will be a handheld mobile device , that can be connected to your TV or used like a true portable. This will be cheap at retail and designed to make an impact in the Indian , Chinese and other emerging markets. This will probably come early in 2017. The next iteration in the NX family would be the home console version. This will probably come late in 2018. This would be geared more for the Western market , but think of it as more of a Nintendo Content box with other Apps , rather than a like for like competitor for PS4/PS5. At this point in time Nintendo will be able to release software that plays on both NX formats , scaled down slightly for the handheld if need be , due to having a shared development environment (Nintendo actually merged their handheld and home gaming divisions two years ago) They could also make the occasional exclusive game for each format.
I think Nintendo are trying to be more like Apple than Playstation or XBox , from a hardware point of view. As the price of the tech used in NX drops , they will be able to release incremental upgrades ( like iPad / iPhone or Android ) which remain backwards compatible with the prior models , utilising an upgraded OS , but offering more power and better design through recent technological improvements. There will be 'apps' linked to your NX and its games via your mobile phone. Through your cross platform , Steam like , account you will be able to play certain Virtual Console games on your mobile phone and on PC ; with others remaining exclusive to Nintendo branded hardware. With NX set up like this Nintendo will be able to appeal to a much wider audience. A far bigger audience than they could attract with a PS4 beating , AAA third party pleasing , shiny shiny PC wannabe behemoth. A combination of their handheld market , their home console market , the mobile gaming market and emerging gaming markets like South America , India and China. Nintendo see the mobile games (in partnership with DENA) and Virtual Console games on your phone as a gateway drug to the real Nintendo. Nintendo will let Sony and Microsoft fight over the bloated , diminishing AAA western home console market and once again head off into the blue ocean under their own steam. Whether they find choppy waters or run aground remains to be seen. Personally , I will be sailing with them. For the games.
They already lost me as a future customer. I haven't purchased anything new on my Wii U since January, I think. Otherwise, with the NX it would be nice to see certain things. A unified account system. Virtual console games from Atari 2600 and the Commodore to the Dreamcast and gamecube. And not first party garbage, but actual 3rd party stuff. Find a way to pay up for the licenses for games like Turok or Superman vs Doomsday. I mean, they've already sucked the fans money this generation. A huge de emphasis on Mario and the like. I want to see newer and dormant franchises. Eternal Darkness? A controller similar to the Xbox one elite controller to really with games from different gens. It would be nice to see 3rd parties, but they're really never coming back unless Nintendo is willing to pay out of their pocket. All of these things would me make me stop and consider the system. But due to the inconsistency and incompetence throughout Nintendo I would realize they would drop the ball at some point after I purchased. As in abandoning the system. As in trickling releases. As in the lack of diversity ( no sports, too many platformers). No, they could provide all the good stuff I mentioned, and there would be a small chance of purchase. They have really burned the console consumer, and that's why they're likely not to come back.
@kingofthesofa : Excellent post!
@Phil_Kavadias like I said, already got one...
My main hope is that Nintendo will stick with the philosophy of my favorite quote from Iwata.
"If you want to surprise people, it would be silly to ask them what they want."
Don't make what people demand you make, or what they tell you they would like. Make what you from observation and analysis believe will suprise and delight them.
@kingofthesofa Ouya tried the incremental hardware upgrades idea; it was one among many reasons why it died out. If an account is required to access the games one buys after they have already been downloaded and installed, that is DRM; I would never buy the NX if it incorporated that.
Going for untapped markets is a good idea, but remember, a lot of people either don't have an internet connection or are too poor, or can't stay at home due to work. Thus, going for a system which requires logging onto an account to access the games, without also having a ubiquitous utility behind the device (like a PC), greatly limits your potential target demographic to... Much less than a system that lets you play your games without needing to log onto an account. (Unless the game/software in question is online only, of course) Free to play is also a big deal in those regions, so the types of games available would need to be very different from the games we're used to seeing on Nintendo consoles... Which encourages even more microtransactions and DLC.
@Pod That can also translate to the whole "We tell you what you want" thing. Which consumers hate with a passion, and is a main reason love for Nintendo is at an all time low.
@Klimbatize Are you kidding me? Nintendo will never win back any of the core gaming market with the Wii branding. It needs to go to its quite little grave and rest as a treasured memory - before it becomes a curse.
@Pod Better yet, why not make both? Games and features people demand, AND more creative things?
It's simple: if it has enough games I want to play, I buy it. If not, I don't. I'm not going to worry about their market share or revenues for them.
A dedicated accounts system that links the NX with Wii U and 3ds.
AAA Core Games like a new Mario adventure in the veign of 64, sunshine or Galaxy (No more casual platformers!), a new Metroid, New F Zero etc.
AAA Core Third party games.
And most important I want the NX to be a significant leap in tech over the ps4 and Xbox One. Im no graphics whore but there needs to be an improvement in tech otherwise what is the point of upgrading from Wii U/Ps4/Xbox One?
And that is it Nintendo. No more off the wall bats crazy rubbish. Just give me a powerful system, a great pad and games. Thats why the Snes was so popular.
A dedicated accounts system that links the NX with Wii U and 3ds.
AAA Core Games like a new Mario adventure in the veign of 64, sunshine or Galaxy (No more casual platformers!), a new Metroid, New F Zero etc.
AAA Core Third party games.
And most important I want the NX to be a significant leap in tech over the ps4 and Xbox One. Im no graphics professor but there needs to be an improvement in tech otherwise what is the point of upgrading from Wii U/Ps4/Xbox One?
And that is it Nintendo. No more off the wall bats crazy rubbish. Just give me a powerful system, a great pad and games. Thats why the Snes was so popular.
@Grumblevolcano Woops, LOL... Well, it's Assassin's Creed, which gets sales consistently, but... Eh... It's Ass Creed, so...meh.
@Project_Dolphin Which gamers? Sometimes I can be a bit slow, so my apologies in advance.
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
If I had it my way the nx would be a steam machine because of how open steamos is. Before you give me flack just think about it, Nintendo can do anything they want with their system and developers will have to develop for it because they would be devoping for the whole ecosystem. And anyone with a competing steam machine will be able to enjoy nintendo's great games. And remember opinions are like noses everyone's got one
I think the Wii U is practically dead after Holiday 2015. Bring on the NX!
As someone who mainly invested in the Wii U so far this gen, both physical copies of games and digital releases (both indie Wii U eShop games and retail), as well as heavily invested in the 3DS eShop releases, I hope they deliver something that doesn't feel like the change from the Wii to the Wii U.
I bought a ton of Virtual Console games, and even though I can still launch them from the Wii feature on the Wii U, the integration is inconvenient and clunky. I hope the NX has better legacy purchase support.
Slightly odd voting results, wanting the hybrid console (please don't) but also 3rd party blockbusters. Surely realistically it is one or the other?
@carlos82 That's what happens when fans try to design something; it turns into the Homer Simpson Car.
@Mr_Zurkon true, not that Nintendo seem to be any better at the moment. I do find it funny that they are keeping it a secret in case Sony (20 mil sales and counting) will ditch their machine and copy 😀
I'm quite disappointed with how many people want Nintendo systems to be exactly the same as a Playstation or an Xbox. If you want them to have the same specs, the same games and the same controller, then get a damn Playstation or Xbox. Nintendo always has specialized in doing something different. They've never done a status quo console in their history.
If Nintendo wasn't announcing many games at E3 2015 because of the NX, then I am definitely hyped.
I hope to see a mix of the great titles we got from Nintendo on past consoles as well as titles from third-parties. Next E3 is going to be huge for me: this is going to be the first time I watch both the Sony and Microsoft conferences (I got a PC so I want to see what games are coming; don't care about the Xbox and PS exclusives) and the NX will be revealed!
@Hikingguy You knock it off with all of that logic and sound reasoning. What we want is a console that shoots laser beams.
@PlywoodStick The advantage the NX would have over the Ouya is of course the massive amount of games and IP that Nintendo already have. In my opinion the incremental hardware of the Ouya would appear near the bottom of the long list of reasons why it failed. I should have stated in my earlier post , but I have mentioned before , I think physical media will be here for at least another generation. I think the NX will use some form of cartridge - the internet would not be necessary to play new games. The account system I envisage doesn't control the games , like DRM , but acts as a supplement to them. For example , if you bought a SNES Virtual Console game on NX it would also be playable on 3DS , Wii U , PC and your mobile as well as on NX. If you bought a cartridge based game for the home NX , you would be able to play this independently on the NX handheld form and also access certain aspects of the game via mobile or PC. The Virtual Console will be available as an App for your smartphone. All the games up to the Gamecube era could be downloaded over the mobile network. Once you have downloaded a game to a device you would be able to play it without logging in to your account. It's going to be interesting for Nintendo and their fans over the next year or so.
Two words: BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY! Also, keep the gamepad (I have a room mate who hogs the TV so...)
Also, please don't make it invalidate the Wii U, I just bought one and I really like it. Besides, sales are starting to pick up
@Peace-Boy A hybrid-console would be a home console. Also, Nintendo sparked those "rumours" (I think of it more like an unproven fact) when they said they made a unified development platform for home and portable devices. So this either means every title will be released on home and portable console simultaneously (since the development platform is scalable) or we will get a hybrid console.
Either way I'm pretty sure this will not be the surprise.
I'd like a hybrid. Call it the Wii DS. Only plays cartridges away from home, but also plays discs when at home. Depending on the game, it would only be able to play 3DS quality games downloaded games away from home and also Wii U quality games while at home.
@shani Okay, besides that, how do you suppose a hybrid console would work? Home consoles use discs and handhelds use cartridges, they can't use either because discs would be too big for a portable device and cartridges don't hold enough data for big games on home consoles. And going digital only would make them go even more downhill than the Wii U did because they charge insane prices for retail games currently and BARELY put them on sale.
There's other factors to consider too, price being very high for one. Battery life for the portable unit would be very low as the hardware would probably be too strong, unless they somehow optimise the hardware usage to be lower when playing on the go so it would be lower quality but have decent battery life.
@Peace-Boy: My first thought was going digital only and I would be totally fine with that. Maybe they could/will rethink their pricing by then, but there would be another solution and I wonder for years why the publishers haven't done it yet: Replace the unreliable optical discs with flash drives! A usb stick or an SD card hold up to 128GB (realistically, 32-64GB would be suffice), producing them doesn't cost much and you could totally plug them into a portable device.
Actually, that made me wonder what those 3DS cartridges are made of... and surprise, surprise, they indeed use flash memory! So these 'cartridges' which really are just flash memory can easily store big games.
Well and you ask how it's going to work, I imagine it like this: Think of the Wii U gamepad as a device that also functions on its own, like a 3DS does. So basically the main controller (which of course will be much thinner and lighter and hopefully fully covered by a display with holes for your fingers) would also be a portable console.
I also thought about the problem with the hardware and battery life, but I think it would be manageable. They could make they Gamepad/portable be out of to parts that can stick together (e.g. with a magnet) with every one of those parts having its own battery. The same technique already is used in several convertibles.
this nx will flop unless they drop mario
he isnt cool anymore , Peach didnt even get Kidnapped on Wii U (in NSMBU she was in her castle basically) its just for kids now
i would like to see more Splatoon to be honest
be it a Mario Sunshine with Ink Tank instead of Water ( instead of using the rocket gadjet you could swim up a painted wall )
most Old Mario Fans (my childhood Console was GC , but i played alot Snes and N64 too , and compared to SMW , 3D World , NSMBU and co are just boring , easy and for little kids
new Mario Fans ( Wii and Up ) wont understand why old Mario games would be good
with new Franchises it would be easier , Mario is just getting old , admit it
a new Zelda Franchise could have Gender Options , new Story stuff (instead of ganon , there could be someone new ) and MUCH more freedom
and just imagine the hype when nintendo would say they are stomping mario , only release the announced games , and then start over with new stuff
@Bass_X0
they need to stop with the "Wii" Name imo
@Midna922 I honestly think dropping Mario entirely is a bad idea, considering he is still Nintendo's best known and most profitable IP. Although I will say, I wouldn't mind if they either were more innovative with him or didn't use him as often and save him for more important games.
@Pod If these comments are anything to go by, then Nintendo would in fact be wise not to give into every demand of its fans.
@Jayvir Some people think that having a more powerful console will draw the third parties back in, but that's false. There's still the (largely substantiated) perception that only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo consoles. And there's the fact that Microsoft has established XBox as the brand for the casual, shooter-and-sports-loving masses, at least in America.
I'm not so sure what I want with NX. But I do know what I want from Nintendo as a whole, and that's fun games on unique hardware.
I would be happy if they just gave it a nice little power bump over the Wii U, kept a screen on the controller (although I think they should slim it down by a large margin and use a higher quality screen- maybe do a 4" touchscreen and trim down the size of the controller as well), released a revised Wiimote with analog stick and better gyro/motion and better Nunchuk (not only would this be a great tool for new games but it would work for backwards compatibility for games like Pikmin 3 and Wii Sports Club Golf).
As for their handheld, now that I do know what I want. The HDS. I'm not too bothered about home console graphics- I think they're fine where they're at. But their handheld needs a considerable boost in power. And not just for aesthetics. The 3DS is too sluggish, and certain games can't even run on it. Xenoblade was a stretch, and even it could barely run on the New 3DS. But the 3D needs to stay. I hope every handheld in the future as a 3D slider on it.
So ya, give me a home console with a revised gamepad and smaller, sleeker, higher res screen on it, a revised Wiimote/Nunchuk with dual analog and better motion, and a high definition handheld that keeps 3D, at the very least for backwards compatibility.
Then again, my desires are based off the technology I'm familiar with. I'm sure they'll ignore everything I want and do something even better that I never even dreamed of.
I just want Ninty to get back to their good ol' ways, and blow our heads off with shock, in an amazing way. Everyone loves their Marios, Bayonettas, Splatoon, and whatnot, but I just want Ninty to give us more and better things. This will shake the market, and give Ninty a chance to rocket up to the top, again.
@Dr_Corndog Not anymore with Playstation being the new home of CoD.
I kinda hope they go with a unified handheld/home console. Instead of having a Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda, 2D Mario, and 3D Mario for both a handheld and home console, Nintendo would only have to make one of each of these games a generation allowing them to make more new ips or revive more classic franchises. That's all I really want from a Nintendo console; the opportunity to play the latest Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero. While I have enjoyed the Wii U it is missing so many classic Nintendo games: no Animal Crossing, F-Zero, Pokémon, 1080, Wave Race, PilotWings, Wario Land, Fire Emblem, Battalion Wars, Custom Robo, and the list goes on.
So yeah a unified console to allow Nintendo to develop a more varied selection of games would be perfect for me. They could try and compete with power again and try and get third party developers on board, but I believe the main reason that third parties have been avoiding the last few Nintendo Consoles is that we just don't buy their games.
I have always been a multi console gamer so the third party problem dosent matter to me, howevere Nintendo dpse need more partnerships with third parties. Get platnium to make a solid captain falcon bounty hunter game. Nintendo needs to sell the NX on "only here" mentailty.
Either a hybrid or the ability to play portable games seems like an easy answer. Japan loves handhelds, the west loves home systems merging the libraries favours both.
I want to see the gamepad return for at least for remote play, honestly this was Nintendo's killer idea on Wii U.
Frankley I refuse to listen to rumours as with Nintendo they Tend to be wrong or half truths until its E3 time when Nintendo leaks like crazy
@Grumblevolcano I'm talking more of a perception that's been built up over several years. It takes more than a single E3 announcement to change that. And if Playstation does become the most popular platform for CoD, well, Sony isn't Nintendo, either.
I want a dedicated home console with a good mix of both Nintendo and third party games. It should have minimal gimmicks, the technical specs required to draw in third party developers, a decent online system and no long droughts between titles like with the Wii or Wii U.
I did a little write up on what I hope to get from the NX.
Let me know what you guys think?
http://gaymernintendo.com/2015/07/06/nx/
I don't know what the NX is going to be, but I hope it doesn't make me hate them.
Let's be realistic; it can't be a hybrid and be as powerful as a PS4. It's not gong to attract blockbuster 3rd party support if it's weaker than XBox One. At best, Nintendo need to continue marketing towards their core audience where they're the most successful, which is portable. Nintendo can't afford to have seperate console and portable teams making games for seperate systems, so it needs to be something that unifies the two.
@yuwarite "Nintendo can't afford to have seperate console and portable teams making games for seperate systems, so it needs to be something that unifies the two."
Source?
Well this is so X-bonessss... I really want Nintendo to support backwards compatibility with the Gamecube. An second system that super powers the GCN into an Wii unit, but also supports NX and WiiU games as well. Like an ultimate Pre-order bonus, that is made one time.
@PartlyAwesome Look at how the Wii U was neglected when Nintendo first parties were too busy making 3DS games. What we need is one unified system, where we can play all Nintendo developed games on. I want to play Pokemon on the go, but I also want to play it on a TV; likewise, with Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, etc.
I want the NX to be a box that you can download games to then stream anywhere in your house to the portable using Wi-Fi instead of a BlueTooth connection. like how the PS3 and Vita works. You should have the option to download some smaller games to the portable with certain games only being playable using both the powerful box and the less powerful portable device.
Waht do I want from the NX. Well in the words of Jeremy Clarkson POWER!!!
4K display support plus the ability to utilise variable TV screen sizes for different styles of multiplayer game play . . 😊
@yuwarite The Wii U is neglected? I don't think any 3DS game is in place of a Wii U game by the looks TBH.
I want a console where parts can be switched out.
I want a temple run style of a game but of Mario cause thats how his games are, there are basically parkour. And maybe even a Metroid fps or an F-zero game.
@Aromaiden What I was looking at is a consumer who would be a parent. With the fact that the news around the Wii U is not the greatest, parents may not fork over more money for another nintendo console (especially one that is more than an X-box One Or PS4). Both of those consoles are going to be over a year old, which means the PS4 will probably get a price drop over the holidays...down to $350 probably. During the holidays, parents will see the X-box One at $350 with a bundled game...a PS4 at $350 with a bundled game...let alone the games that will be with them are AAA games...then they'll see the NX. If this system is not the same price (depends on when they decide to launch it), it could hurt the sales to where nintendo is forced to drop the price quickly, or they'll have another console that hurts them and their image further. I love nintendo, before I get hatred towards me, but I'm just looking at it as a parent who doesn't know the companies ( I know the companies, but most parents who buy the consoles for their kids during holidays, don't). Price could hurt them, and if it's just as powerful as the PS4...it would have to be the same price as the PS4 with the same kind of AAA 3rd party games on it...if it's as powerful as the X-box One...then it would have to be close to that price. I really want nintendo's next console to be a hit and put them back into the race and competition, but I really hope that they think about it, before they just up and release it too quickly...I also hope that they advertise it like crazy in magazines, the web and Television commercial spots.
Holy crap ign is reporting that iwata has died
@ferrers405 so you want a PS4 with Nintendo's name on it.
0) For Iwata to come back from the dead ;_;
1) A more refined Wii remote system with 2 IR controllers with a joystick, a 4 button pad and 2 triggers on each remote. That could suit multiple play styles comfortably and give 3'rd party and (more importantly) indie devs the option to port games with a standard control scheme but still let Nintendo do their thing with innovative mechanics. I already have a PS4. Most people do, according to the sales. I don't need something that replicates its capabilities and the endless string of overhype and repetitive disappointment that has been the AAA arena this gen.
2) An end to the oppressive linking of software to console rather than software to account. I know their IP is their bread and butter but seriously, they're the only ones who still do this and it makes upgrading to a new 3DS and upgrading to a new console a total pain.
3)Merging mobile and living room BUT ONLY if it also includes the development of some kind of mobile controller. Touch screens are terrible terrible controllers and it's the #1 reason I own a 3DS and pay 10x the price of an app store game for a 3DS game.
4.) Better market targeting. I remember this rift starting back in the N64/PS1 days. Ninty targeted kids assuming that meant targeting their parents. Sony targeted young adults. Kids want to be young adults. Sony took off. By targeting kids repeatedly Nintendo is always sort of the tinker toys of gaming. Go bolder, go after the 30-somethigns with money for a dedicated gaming platform but no time for the long winded lunacy of MGS storyline or 30 levels worth of mundane smithing practice required to make dragon armor in Skyrim. I love Zelda games but boy do I hate having the same simple instructions delivered and repeated ad nauseam every time I go to buy a bottle from the lunatic shop keep. Also, Conker's Bad Fur day and Golden eye on the N64 were like the best games ever.
5)either Some impressive graphical power or a really low price tag. I know, I said I don't want something that replicates the PS4 but Sony and MS have spent a lot of money convincing a lot of people that that's what makes a console great. More importantly, 3rd parties need something they can port to easily and they're already set up to work to really ridiculous specs. One way or another they need to get that market share up to get the games and 3'rd party support. As long as idiots keep forgetting that there's a huge thing called "lack of competition among ISP's"standing in the way of 4K, idiots will keep buying hardware that supports 4K 5 years before anyone can deliver 4K content to watch with it. No one's ever gone broke underestimating consumer intelligence. Slap a faster CPU in that puppy and print bigger numbers on the box.
Great games I want to play. Thats all I ever want.
One consideration, It would be easy for MS to bring a lot of power in a livingroom/mobile mashup situation by simply turning the Xbox into a livingroom Windows platform. That could be stiff competition for Nintendo. Fortunately they just fired another 7800 Nokia employees, meaning they're turning away from phones and focusing on their core. With Microsoft's track record over the last 5 years they're more likely to bungle it and turn a great possibility into a wasteland of incompatibilities and broken promises. But.. food for thought. I do hope this Nintendo is thinking about that.
@sewercar well simple worked for Sony until now in this generation, why don't give a try to it.
@PartlyAwesome Nintendo only has so many studios under it; it makes better business sense to have all these studios developing for one system, then have them divided working on multiple systems - that way everyone gets the opportunity to play nintendo games. For instance, I don't own a 3DS but only own a WiiU, so there is no way for someone in my situation to play the 3DS Nintendo exclusives.
@ferrers405 Because Sony is already doing a fine job of being Sony. Microsoft tried to be Sony and look where that got the XBone. It is leading the Wii U by only 2.9 million units worldwide and eating up huge losses in the process. They started at $500 with a kinect and were just barely breaking even, remember? Now they're doing bundles with 2 games and sometimes a kinect, depending on the sale, for just $350. For every 2 Xboxes sold, Microsoft's losses could just about buy a Wii U. At least the Wii U is turning a profit on hardware. There's no room for 2 Sony's.
@sewercar well, Microsoft dug it's own grave with XboxOne, just like Nintendo and it's "revolutionary" WiiU, now the important is no persist in the mistake and change some policies for good of the business and the consumers too.
Am I the only one here that doesn't really care about 3rd party games? I mean, I don't buy a Nintendo console to play Call of Duty or Assassins Creed or any other of those titles I can experience elsewhere. Certainly the more options, the better, but honestly I buy Nintendo to play Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, and to generally get the crazy innovation they always give.
Anyway, I don't know what to expect from NX, but I am just hoping for a few things: (A) HUGE step forward in innovation. Another revolutionary concept like the original DS and Wii were. (B) Has a solid game library AT LAUNCH that stays consistently fresh throughout its lifespan (AKA: don't repeat the mistakes of 3DS and Wii U) and (C) Launches in at least 2017 since I just got my WIi U last year and they haven't even scratched the surface with it's potential yet (I feel). Give it some time!
I might be in the minority, but I don't want backwards compatibility, it holds a new console back. I'm mainly a handheld gamer, so I want the NX to be a great portable. Something with the design similar to the vita ( twin sticks, great screen, easy online play ) but with nintendo magic. Also with built in 4g.
Thank you Saturo, you will not be forgotten. Rest well.
Satoru* Apologies
Important things that it needs:
RIP Iwata
@ferrers405 Nintendo already tried to beat Sony at the power & graphics game. The PS1 outsold the more powerful N64 by 72 million. The PS2 outsold the more powerful gamecube by 135 million. The Wii pulled away, did something different and finally outsold the PS3 by 15 million. Why would they go back to the old model that clearly wasn't working?
That said, re-inventing the wheel with every console clearly isn't working either. What is needed is refinement- to turn the gimmicky additions into solid, worthwhile upgrades. They were almost there with wii motion +. I always thought the Wii U should have just moved things around so that both hands have a joystick, d pad and dual triggers so it could do both traditional and motion. That would have been a cheap change to make and would've let them either put the cost of the game pad into more powerful hardware or just knock it off the price tag.
@sewercar sorry, but powerful? I said on par because PS4 and Xbox One aren't that powerful, anyway what I said is try to keep simple and make adjustments that are really necessary in this era of gaming, for love of god, Nintendo don't even have a account system that isn't stuck with the system, this for me is just unforgivable, if tomorrow my 3DS broke I can lost 50+ games that I have digitally, that's just crazy for a company of the size of Nintendo.
Just have more third party support than the U, as well as the traditionally excellent Nintendo first party offerings.
Also a real 3D Mario game is a must. Something like Sunshine, Galaxy, or 64.
@ferrers405 I totally agree about the accounts. Their current system is downright archaic.
As for power, the ps4 is as powerful as it can be at the price point people can pay and the software still isn't using that fully. I'd say Nintendo needs to be closer- it at least needs multi-tasking- but there's a difference between creating a good game and creating an interactive cinematic experience. Mario Galaxy is a great game. It doesn't need the graphics that MGS 5 needs, and frankly I wouldn't pay another $400 to replicate functionality that my ps4 and PC already have. if Nintendo launches a new console half way through the cycle it will need to be something unique and inexpensive that sits next to a ps4 and is just powerful enough to attract 3rd parties and multitask.
I'll be honest. I don't care at all about AAA third party games appearing on Nintendo game systems. The one's I have played are just not my style. I love how Nintendo forges their own path, innovating interaction, game goals, and concepts while keeping things bright, cheerful and above all fun. No other designer does this to the quality and consistency of Nintendo.
I want NX to push the envelope and open new gaming possibilities, not just bump up CPU's and horsepower.
Nintendo has promised to show NX in 2016 but I suspect it won't be released until mid or end of year 2017. Dev kits aren't even out yet and the rumors are we're just one year from release. That's not happening. I'm curious and optimistic but with nothing really to go on at this point I'm not hyped.
Now back to playing Wii U and 3DS.
Keep it weird - I don't understand why people want a generic Nintendo XPlaystationBox41.
Oh boy! I hope they charge us for online gaming! Don't worry guys, the extra revenue will go 100% to the servers! Trust me!
I just want something that continues the fun of gaming with Nintendo systems and software. I really could care less for CoD or AC on my Wii U when I have a PC. Nintendo has so many good IP's they don't need 3rd party support. Just keep being you Nintendo. I love the Wii U. I love the fact that I can game while my girlfriend and daughter can watch TV. I think I'm one of the few people that totally loves the gamepad even though it's not "POPULAR" to like it.
I gotta say, that I wish that they also bring back some of the classics and also some new games in the following series:
Startropics
Faxanandu
The Goonies 2 (even though it's hudson soft)
Wrecking Crew
Kid Icarius
Pilot Wings
Pinball (could do a lot of different levels with it now)
Their Sports Franchise (triple Play baseball anyone)
Adventures Of Lolo
Ice Climbers (could be a really good updated game or sequel)
RIP Mr. Iwata! Many prayers to your family and friends!
If it comes out in 2016 and they want to grab 3rd party support they need to make it an X86 machine so developers will develop for it beside XB1 and PS4 easily. Then give it a Nintendo twist. If they simply add cross play with 3ds games it'll be a big hit. Add a port to plug in 3ds games and it'd be even better. Huge library right off the bat. Also have backwards with Wii U. It would be easy to stream from it to the handheld section for remote play. They've been doing this with hacks for PS3 and PSP for years. Surely this could be done easily. If they want to be truly innovative and release another next gen system then they need to spend as much time as possible getting 3rd party support and guaranteeing support out the gate. Quality hardware builds are never a Nintendo issue. On top of that just buy Sega and revive some all time classic series and make the greatest system ever with the greatest and most exclusives ever!
My wishlist:
1. Great games with awesome local multiplayer experiences. It'd be wonderful to see something revolutionary, but those days may be over.
2. Off TV play in some way. That feature was probably my favorite thing about the WiiU.
3. Sweet VC - get all the games from Wii/Wii U plus maybe GCN and DC games. Backwards compatibility for Wii/WiiU games too. Reward us loyal fans by not making us pay full price again if we already have the game.
4. Unified account system - if a game is on the console and portable - let me buy it once and get both versions (for a new retail game, like smash that had to be developed from the ground up for both systems, I'm happy to pay more for a "bundle", but not so much for a NES rom-dump.
I would like to see another Excitebike: World Rally game. That was some awesome online racin' on the Wii. When Nintendo cut off their online services for the Wii, that game was the one I missed the most.
@MWGknight "make it x86" "make it backwards compatible with Wii U" It doesn't work that way. The Wii U uses some sort of modified PPC, that, by default makes it impossible to run games on a x86 computer natively. It would need to run a PPC emulator while running the game (ie it would be very hard to get to work). Same reason while the PS4 and the X1 aren't truly BC with their predecessors.
It may be difficult it may not. XB1 is now doing 360 games. On a powerful enough X86 machine emulators are easy enough. Look at all the emulators PC's use now. Who knows what Nintendo will do? It is just nice that in the last two systems they added backward compatability to the previous system. I hope they do that here too. It seems even more appropriate considering the earlier possible cut off on Wii U.
@Aromaiden
That's not what I'm sayng at all, though.
Before Zelda, Mario, or any of their other franchises existed, Nintendo had to believe in their new creations as being something the market would like, from playtester reactions and so on.
More than ever Nintendo needs to stay ahead of the gaming companies that are willing to quickly and cheaply produce whatever uncreative desire the masses are screaming to have fulfilled.
I want Nintendo to come up with something better than I can. I want them to surprise me.
@Pod That would be nice for nintendo to start making some new kind of games and new characters. I also wish they'd bring back some of the older classics from the NES era that they just dropped (Startropics, Faxanandu). If they brought new games, they could still bring some of the classics that come out on every system (Mario Kart, Smash, Mario) and still have a good hit system. I also wish that they'd try again with the Battalion Wars games...just make it less kiddie and focus on more action (not the M rated stuff, but like a T rated game at least).
The NX needs to be x86 biased Hardware with a standard controller (Wii U Pro Controller would do)... This is for all the third party publishers who just don't put any effort into porting. Nintendo can then concentrate on what it does best and design awesome fun games, and if Nintendo want make a Wii Remote 2 or Gamepad 2 controller for Game immersion as only Nintendo can. The lazy 3rd party developers/publishers will be happy and the Nintendo Hardcore will also be happy; win, win I say
Nintendo is going to have to make a bold move if they want to stay in the race with Sony and Microsoft. Sony has virtual reality for the ps4. If Nintendo don't even do virtual reality for the next generation they're going to be very primitive compared to the ps4 let alone the ps5. There needs to be a lot more servers too.
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