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DFC Intelligence Lowers Wii U Lifetime Sales Forecast, But Supports Holiday Releases and Strategy

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

"Nintendo is carving out a different audience"

Friday 22nd November is a major release day on a number of fronts, including Super Mario 3D World on Wii U (in North America, 29th November in Europe), The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds on 3DS, as well as new hardware from Microsoft with the Xbox One; special mentions should also go to Mario Party: Island Tour (in North America) and the well-received Tearaway on PS Vita. That's a lot going on in a single shopping day.

With two new consoles launching — the PS4 hit North America last week and arrives in Europe next week — Nintendo's big name releases were inevitably going to come up against challenging circumstances. And yet that's not necessarily an issue to cause panic, with David Cole — CEO and Founder of strategic market research and consulting firm DFC Intelligence — stating that the difference in target audience ensures that Nintendo's major releases represent a good strategy in this most crowded of release periods.

I think Nintendo is carving out a different audience. I think that being said it is the right strategy. The audience they are going after is not the ones that Sony and Microsoft are going after. Right now they need to go after Nintendo fans first. They should have done that last year but better late than never. So in answer to your question it is the right approach but really Nintendo now is just trying to do as well as the GameCube so they have a base to sell first party software.

Independent analyst Billy Pidgeon shares similar views.

I think it's smart for Nintendo to launch three titles featuring major franchises on the same day. Yes, Xbox One also launches on November 22nd, but major game retail events can energize consumers to buy more games and hardware. There's an audience waiting for these Nintendo titles, and Mario and Zelda have system-selling potential. It's a good move to get these games out before the holiday season kicks in on Black Friday, a tactic that Sony and Microsoft are employing for their eight [sic] generation console launches.

Nintendo is moving 3DS hardware, and 2DS adds value priced hardware to Nintendo's handheld mix. Wii U hardware sales need a boost, and Super Mario 3D World will help. Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. releases in 2014 will also help, as will more value added bundles and hardware price cuts.

Those are all positive comments, though as you no doubt picked up from the first quotation, DFC Intelligence doesn't anticipate significant success (beyond GameCube levels) for the Wii U over its lifetime. In fact, the research company is officially lowering its Wii U hardware lifetime sales projection to around a quarter of the Wii's, which would be around 25 million units.

We are once again lowering our outlook for the Wii U. Right now it is looking to do about what the GameCube did during its lifespan which is mainly be another system for Nintendo first party product.

What do you think of Nintendo's chances of big sales this Holiday season with these high-profile releases, and the DFC Intelligence prediction of roughly 25 million hardware sales over the Wii U's lifetime? Let us know in the comments below.

[via gamesindustry.biz]

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WingedSnagret

#1

WingedSnagret said:

Unless things drastically speed up for the Wii U, I'm starting to agree with the GameCube sales outlook.

BossBattles

#2

BossBattles said:

Don't care. I'll be playing dozens of great games on the console regardless of "unit sales" that never mattered back in the day, and still don't matter now.

Warruz

#3

Warruz said:

They sound cautious which is understandable. However with the way the market is shifting, Nintendo has an opportunity to not get stuck in the Gamecube issue again as the Wii U will be distinct enough from the Xbox1 and PS4 that its offerings will be more appealing then getting an Xbox and a Playstation.

We are seeing a wave of homogenization this generation more so then ever, which gives Nintendo the opportunity to be #2 console you purchase because there is little value in owning both an Xbox and a playstation this round.

ultraraichu

#5

ultraraichu said:

For me the timing of those game release is perfect since Toysrus is still having a buy one, get one 40% off sale on all 3DS and Wii U games this week. So I'm just going to get those 3 and Wii Party U and save myself some cash and trouble before the rush.

One thing I learn from nintendo since 2005 is to expect the unexpected.

LUIGITORNADO

#7

LUIGITORNADO said:

Nintendo has it in them to build hype. It doesn't need to settle for GCN numbers.

Take some risks, listen to fans (Pokemon MMO) and bring it!

Kaine_Morrison

#9

Kaine_Morrison said:

I had loads of fun with my GameCube.
Rogue Squadron
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
Sunshine, Wind Waker
4 Swords
Eternal Darkness
Darkened Skye

Nareva

#11

Nareva said:

I think 25 million is a low estimate. It's increasingly unlikely that the Wii U can do Wii numbers, but I think 40-50 million is achievable.

Zobocop

#12

Zobocop said:

That last statement about the GameCube was a little Ignorant. The Gamecube had just about every multi-platform game that also ended up on Xbox. Besides, the landscape was different then too. Back then Nintendo "was" competing with Sony and Microsoft, considering the Game Cube was more powerful than the PS2 and Nintendo's partnership with Capcom to bring exclusive titles like Resident Evil.

Luffy

#13

Luffy said:

I think it will be around 50 Million after 6 years on market when all the xbox and ps4 owners have had their systems for years and are bored and want a 2nd system.

BraveBold5

#14

BraveBold5 said:

It is really hard to see where the Wii U will get
There is a lot of things that makes it unpredictable to see what the Wii U will sell
On the bad side:
The Wii U has not been well received by the majority of the public I love the console, but many people don't seem to understand the console
Also PS4 and XOne have done a very strong publicity of their consoles
The first year of the Wii U was weak in terms of sales and with few great system seller games The 3rd party is one of the biggest weakness of the console (Titles like Bioshock and GTA never arrived on the console, and titles like Witcher 3, Thief, Final Fantasy and MGS seem that wont hit the Wii U too)
EA wont put is best selling games on the console too
On the good side, we have:
Nintendo exclusives are always one of the best of each generation and normally have great sales too
With PS4 and XOne loking so alike, Wii U is a unique plataform wich can pull on some different gamers or function as a 2nd console for those who have a PS4 or a XOne or are PC Gamers
Wii, Ds and 3Ds helped to spread even more games like Mario Kart, SSB, Zelda and so on And that could help on "creating" new Nintendo fans that where not so aware of this great games back on the Gamecube era
Nintendo is now more capable of creating more 1st party games
Since the Gamecube era, they have increased they workforce, they have more new studios and the have more "money" to make 2nd party games
With more games, more people will be interested on the Wii U
It will be a very interesting home generation for the Wii U :)
At least one thing i am sure, Nintendo will continue to give us great and unique games on the Wii U :)

JuleyJules

#15

JuleyJules said:

@Warruz It's very true as the PS4/Xbone are getting a lot of the same games with a few exclusives - even if it's more than before - and Wii U will continue to have more family oriented games and other exclusives like Super Mario 3D World that can't be found anywhere else. As the great games come for Wii U sales will go up and it might be the companion system. I think that now that PS4/Xbone are out the talk about "next-gen" will die down as they are now current-gen along with Wii U. As that happens it'll be back to the way things have been for a long time now. Sony & MS will battle it out for the top and Nintendo will sneak up in between them as they appeal to a different set of gamers in addition to some who don't simply go with one company and that's it.

2Sang

#17

2Sang said:

It's over, maybe we'll win next gen. 25 million sounds right give or take a couple million.

Tsurii897

#19

Tsurii897 said:

I guess I could live with a "second Gamecube". The GC was the first console I got for myself (and I was damn proud ^^) and almost all ganes ai got back then became part of my all-time favorites. As far as I know Nintendo we WILL get top quality games and I'd go as far to state here and now that Wii U will have a huge part of the best games this gen. (I think we can already assume that Zelda U, Smash Bros and X are already my most anticipated games for the next year/s)

withoutdk

#20

withoutdk said:

i hope for 100 million... but who knows...

at least now i see all the new bundles (mario / zelda) are being sold out almost as soon as they are back in stock here in denmark :) that is a good sign.

XFsWorld

#21

XFsWorld said:

For some strange reason I lost hope for Wii U selling at least 40 million after I heard the PS4 selling over 1 million in 24 hours.

real_gamer

#22

real_gamer said:

Wii-100 million plus lifetime sales. Wii U-25 million plus lifetimes sales. I know you notice something because I can read your mind. Yes Nintendo messed up. This is suppose to be Wii U "successor", ha it made me chuckle.

WaLzgiStaff

#24

WaLzgi said:

I never understood why anyone on the internet cared so much about sales all of a sudden. Sales don't predict anything for sure.

rjejr

#27

rjejr said:

@Luffy @Nareva - 50 mil sounds about right to me too. Back in the Gamecube era you really just had "gamers" buying system. So Nintendo probably will sell 25 mil to gamers for Mario and Zelda and Brawl, but also another 25 mil to the casual crowd for Just Dance, Wii Fit and Sports.

And if they're smart they'll figure out a way to make to Wii U more attractive to all the 3DS, 3DS XL and 2DS owners so that 50 mil happens sooner rather than later. I'm not sure how exaclty, but streaming 3DS games like Kid Icarus and Luigi's Mansion 2 and Dream Team over the Wii U to my tv wouldn't hurt. I'ld even buy a 3DS for that.

zeldagaymer93

#28

zeldagaymer93 said:

Anybody saying that Nintendo can do better than 25 million is very ignorant. Sony sold 1 million PS4s day 1 in North America alone... Nintendo hasn't even reached 4 million and it's been on the market for a year worldwide. Look at the consumer surveys... most people don't want a Wii U. Nintendo isn't really advertising the Wii U. I think 20-30 million is the range that it will hit.

zeldagaymer93

#29

zeldagaymer93 said:

@rjejr The problem is that a lot of the casual market has switched over to tablets and phones. Plus, Just Dance and all of the major sports games are on Xbox One and PS4. There is no way the Wii U can be even half as successful as the Wii.

CaviarMeths

#30

CaviarMeths said:

25 million isn't awful. It would be a modest commercial success with figures like that.

Definitely hard to say though when the Wii U's first real system seller hits shelves tomorrow. The Wii managed to crank out hit after hit for about 3 years, but the Wii U's software hasn't been anywhere near the draw.

DilMan33

#31

DilMan33 said:

Hasn't even Patcher had a 'change of heart' and predicted 50 million wii U sales???

Remember this console generation is likely to be 7-8 years long and that starts after all next gen consoles are released.

Guybrush_Threepwood

#32

Guybrush_Threepwood said:

Nintendo sold so many Wii consoles because millions of people who normally don't care about videogames bought it just because of Wii Sports and Wii Fit. But those people will never buy a Wii U. The Wii hype is over now! The Wii U has the same target audience like Gamecube or Nintendo64. You can't compare it to the Wii audience. Millions of crazy housewives won't buy the console this time. You can't repeat this success. Wii U versions of Wii Fit and Sports won't do it.

Mayleene

#33

Mayleene said:

Pffft! There are plenty of 3rd party games coming. X, Bayonetta 2 etc. Not to mention Zelda U.

CaviarMeths

#34

CaviarMeths said:

@zeldagaymer93 PS4 sales figures are completely irrelevant. The market isn't crowded. There's plenty of room for all three companies to have a successful machine. Gen VI sales totaled about 280 million between Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft (PS2, GC, XB, GBA). Gen VII sales are about 470 million and counting (PS3, XB360, Wii, DS, PSP).

And many people buy more than one console over the period of 6-8 years.

DilMan33

#35

DilMan33 said:

Wasn't a billion smartphones and tablets going to kill off the 3DS??

So what's the Ps4 and XB1 in comparision?? 50 million is my prediction.

rjejr

#36

rjejr said:

@zeldagaymer93 - What you call ignorance we call optimism ;-)

Nintendo hasn't advertised the Wii U very well, barley at all. I'm guessing a lot of that has to do w/ 3DS marketing - their real money-maker. But now that the 3DS is a couple of years old and well established, and has already received games like Kid Icarus, Mario Kart, SM3DL, Zelda: Link Between Worlds and Pokemon X + Y Nintendo will now focus on the Wii U. You know w/ Kart 8 and Brawl coming out next year (theoretically) Nintendo will be marketing those big time. Well at least they should. If either of those 2 games get delayed to 2015 (I will never ever forgive Reggie for the Brawl delay(s)) then things will be tough.

As for the casuals - 1 big reason they WILL buy Wii U - couch multiplayer. Oh sure, you can play Words w/ Friends and Candy Crush online, but Wii Sports Club (all 5 sports on disc for next holiday season) and Mario Kart and SM3DW will get some of them to buy a Wii U. Most of that stuff is word of mouth advertising - Nintendo didn't do a great job advertising the Wii either, they didn't have to b/c once you played tennis at a friends house you went out and bought one. Nobody has a Wii U in their house to play. This holiday should change that, and people should start buying Wii U. It's never doing anywhere close to 100 mil, that's for sure, but 50 over time should be manageable.

AVahne

#37

AVahne said:

Hopefully it'll sell at least 5 million more than Gamecube. Nintendo made far too many mistakes with the Wii U, so it's likely that it won't ever reach PS3 and 360 level sales;especially if they kill off support for the system after 4-5 years of life (damn you NoA).
And, first mistake they made was stating that they were for the core gamer, when they hadn't taken enough steps to ensure that audience that their console is totally worth it. There's just too much confusion regarding Wii U.

Sinister

#38

Sinister said:

25 Million is what i would have guessed as well.
But i would have waited until after the 3d World and Kart 8 numbers were in to make a final judgement call.
The numbers after those two releases will show us how the U will sell in the long run.

bmprsvz777

#39

bmprsvz777 said:

I do not understand one thing, on one hand Nintendo wants sales, on the other hand GAMES ARE NOT IN SHOPS!!! Sometimes I feel like I live in another world, I read about new game and how good it is and then I visit shop and it is not there so I can not buy it, it is frustrating to walk through 5 huge shops and not to find what you are looking for. Try to find Deus Ex, Mass Effect or Skylanders SWAP Force for Wii U in capital european city with 1.2 milion inhabitants...

B-Squared

#40

B-Squared said:

I just don't get predictions like this. There are just too many variables. Its not impossible nor improbable that the Wii U's lifetime sales will be that amount, if not more or less but you simply can't know. Did people expect Mario Kart Wii to outsell GRAND THEFT AUTO IV? I didn't. It just seems like people like to pretend they know what they are talking about but you can only predict so much.

zeldagaymer93

#42

zeldagaymer93 said:

@rjejr I'm a realist, not a fanboy. I love Nintendo and I love my Wii U but coming from someone in the Accounting and Marketing world, there is no way the system is going to sell more than 30 million tops.

Parents are telling their kids "You already have a console that can play Mario, Zelda, and Mario Kart" and don't see the need for Wii U. Wii Sports Club isn't going to sell systems... Those same people that loved Wii Sports won't care that the graphics were updated, new motion controls, and in HD. They aren't going to spend $300 for that when they essentially already have it for a console they own.

Yes, 3D World, Zelda U, Brawl, and Mario Kart are all going to help the system sell. But not above 30mil. Times are changing and Nintendo needs to think of something.

Nareva

#43

Nareva said:

@B-Squared Not only do they like to pretend, they get paid for doing so. Being an analyst is akin to being an actor, you memorize and repeat your lines to people and eventually start to believe some of them yourself.

zeldagaymer93

#44

zeldagaymer93 said:

@rjejr And to put things in perspective, the system has sold 4 million in 1 year. If they continue at the same pace then it would take a 12.5 year console life to reach 50 million... That just isn't going to happen.

Nareva

#45

Nareva said:

@zeldagaymer93 "Parents are telling their kids "You already have a console that can play Mario, Zelda, and Mario Kart" and don't see the need for Wii U. Wii Sports Club isn't going to sell systems... Those same people that loved Wii Sports won't care that the graphics were updated, new motion controls, and in HD. They aren't going to spend $300 for that when they essentially already have it for a console they own."

This I certainly agree with. I see it happening with my nephews. They want the new games, but there are plenty of games for Wii that are cheap and fun enough...and they usually come from me for free because I've finished with them.

zeldagaymer93

#46

zeldagaymer93 said:

@Mayleene X is a 2nd party game. Zelda U is a 1st party game. Please tell me some really awesome 3rd party games confirmed for Wii U (besides Watch Dogs, which yes does look awesome.)

zeldagaymer93

#47

zeldagaymer93 said:

@CaviarMeths PS4 figures are very relevant. It shows that there is very high demand for PS4s and not Wii Us. The PS4 has already sold more than 1/4 of what Wii U has acheived and that's based on a one day North American figure...The Wii U has been out for a year. So yeah, you can compare them to see what the market wants.

MEGAMAN_D

#49

MEGAMAN_D said:

The gamecube failed because it was to much like the xbox and ps2.

nintendo are best when they do their own thing, the Wii U will catch on once the PS4 and X1 hype has died

DilMan33

#50

DilMan33 said:

Very high, Ps4 and XB1 sales could also result in higher wii U sales. Especially, if the PS4/XB1 titles become generic and boring. Don't forget that the Wii U will almost likely to be always cheaper than the PS4/XB1.

An incredible industry................

Boxmonkey

#51

Boxmonkey said:

25 million could be about right. But if sales don't pick up by this Time next year nintendo will be frantically tyring to build a new console, which would mean wii u would only last 3-4 years tops.

CaptOlimar30

#52

CaptOlimar30 said:

Calling the Wii-U the system for core gamers was definitely a mistake on Nintendo's part but I do believe it can still be a system for core gamers if Nintendo releases the big games we all want since their console is so unique when compared to the PS4 and XBox One.

Sidewinder

#54

Sidewinder said:

@AidenPearce Well you should because sales, and cash determine if Nintendo stays in the console race.
My preferred system is also the Wii U, so I don't know why you stated that. But, hey! We're stuck with the casual console again.

AidenPearce

#55

AidenPearce said:

@Sidewinder I care about it selling good enough, Thats all

I hope your last statement was sarcastic, I'll just be over here playing monster hunter and assassins creed 4

JQuest

#56

JQuest said:

25 million is cautious, but a reasonable number... I'd put it closer to 40, really. There's so much parity with XB1/PS4 library wise, that I think Wii U could sneak in 2nd place, particularly when another price drop comes in another year or two being that I wouldn't anticipate Sony or MS dropping the price on their hardware with in that time frame. Unless sales for them tank, of course.

unrandomsam

#57

unrandomsam said:

You cannot really compare the figures either because most of the big games on the other most of the money go to 3rd parties whereas Nintendo gets everything for first party and most of it even for something like Pokemon.

unrandomsam

#58

unrandomsam said:

@I-AM-REGGIE The Gamecube didn't really fail at all for me. (Something in most genres that is really good reasonable difficulty most of the time. Good 3rd party stuff from Sega and Capcom.) I got much more out of it than the N64.

unrandomsam

#59

unrandomsam said:

(I really didn't like the way the PS2 looked (As in the games the jaggies) - Dreamcast and Gamecube were fine).

Spoony_Tech

#60

Spoony_Tech said:

Well if just half of the current Wii U owners get Mario then its already sold 2-3 million and ill guess when its all said and done this Mario game will be pushing 15-20 million over then next 4-5 years! That alone is a job well done! Now do that with Zelda and Metroid! Wishful thinking!

MrGawain

#64

MrGawain said:

Yup, the Wii U is likely to sell between 25m-50m consoles. Nintendo caught lightning in a bottle with the Wii, and it won't repeat that.

But I also reckon the PS4 and Xbox One won't sell 100m consoles like some people think. In fact I think both will sell less than their predecessors- the Xbox One by some margin.

SuperMartarano

#65

SuperMartarano said:

@Warruz I know PS4 sold one million units in 24 hours... But after seeing my local Craigslist ads CRAMMED to the brim with people trying to make a profit by reselling them, it leads me to believe that many people bought two systems (perhaps through different outlets). While I've seen this type of thing before, I've never witnessed it to this magnitude. If this is nationwide, I don't think one million PS4s in 24 hours is as impressive as it should be if a decent amount are strictly for the purpose of reselling.

boynerdrambling

#68

boynerdrambling said:

Yawn. So had enough of these "analysts" and pessemestic "fans" that roll around the internet. Gamers need to start caring about the games again, no matter what console their on instead of how "well" they do. If you like a console and it has games you've enojoyed playing then who cares how it sells. Its not your job to worry or care

zeldagaymer93

#69

zeldagaymer93 said:

@boynerdrambling It is our job to worry and care... We need to see our favorite systems do well. Low sales means low cash inflow for Nintendo. It also means less positive publicity. In order to play your favorite games, that company needs to be doing well.

Nareva

#70

Nareva said:

@boynerdrambling Hey guy, take your contentedness to some other thread! It's not wanted here! :P

To be fair, arguing (respectfully) about console sales is the bread and butter of gaming websites. What else is there to speculate on?

GamerGleek47

#71

GamerGleek47 said:

Well 25 Million isn't THAT bad! The years of the Wii U will all be amazing ones! Sure, all the fanboys will then be right, but us Wii U owners know what an outstanding console we have. They will never experience the first Zelda or Metroid in HD or a Mario Galaxy 3! We should all be also proud of Nintendo for comig up with this idea. I'm we should also be proud to be part of the amazing Wii U community. I'm proud to be a Wii U owner!! :)

8thGenConsoles

#72

8thGenConsoles said:

@zeldagaymer93 The only ignorant person here is you and for obvious reasons. First of all, the Wii U has already sold more than 4 million units world wide. Second, just because the PS4 sold 1 million at launch doesn't mean that Wii U is doomed. Dreamcast was very successful at launch and then it failed. Wii U also sold about a million unit at launch and now it's struggling. My point is that anything can happen in the future. The Wii U can do better than 25 million if Nintendo wants to and my guess is that Nintendo wants Wii U to sell at least 40 million units this gen. You also talk about Nintendo not advertising the Wii U which is funny because I've seen Wii U commercials on TV and theaters and gamers will get the chance to play Wii U games in malls and cruise ships this holiday. I suggest you wait and see what's gonna happen, don't act like you know what's gonna happen in the future.

Technosphile

#73

Technosphile said:

I'm not sure it's even going to do that well. At this point, only the most amazing, groundbreaking, visually stunning Zelda game Nintendo could possibly produce will generate real system-selling buzz.

Darknyht

#74

Darknyht said:

Everyone forgets that Nintendo basically revived console gaming and has innovated on that market for years. Their products consistently rank as some of the best in the industry. There is a reason that whole genres are referenced in Nintendo terms (Metroid-esque, Zelda-like, Mario-clone, Mario Kart racer or Pokemon-like). Nintendo may have not invented the genre but they have a way of distilling it to it's purest form.

So, If they produce and sell 23 Million consoles they will ensure that there are good, and more importantly unique, games for it.

idork99

#75

idork99 said:

Market researchers are as valuable as color commentators for Football: they make their best guess at the beginning of the match to the best of their abilities but it doesn't necessarily mean that the match will turn out as said.

zeldagaymer93

#76

zeldagaymer93 said:

@8thGenConsoles Please show me where your figures are from that shows the Wii U has sold more than 4 million. Most people I know either don't know what a Wii U is or have 0 interest in one.

You'll be biting your tongue when sales for Wii U in a year will be hovering around 8 million still.

EDIT: And the Wii U sold less than 500,000 on launch weekend worldwide. PS4 isn't even released outside North America and those were day 1 sales (not weekend sales).

Mazor775

#77

Mazor775 said:

Just needs a multiplayer online mario. That probably wont happen till next gen though knowing big n. #frommynintendocontroller

8thGenConsoles

#78

8thGenConsoles said:

@zeldagaymer93 Actually it's you who needs to show me where did you get your figures from. It was reported that Wii U sold 3.91 million units as of September 30, 2013 and now we are in November. Almost 2 months later and Wii U has already reached 4 million units sold. Think about the Zelda bundle, Wii Party U bundle and the Mario bundle, it's already there at 4 million.

Lol so let me get this straight: just because most people YOU know are not interested in a Wii U that means that the console will fail? Who are you again? And how many of those people you know are even gamers? I'm sorry but your logic fails.

I think you're the one who will be biting your tongue because right now you're acting like you're a time traveler, you "know" what's gonna happen in the future, you "know" Wii U is doomed. I need to remind you that many people said the DS would fail, the Wii would fail, the 3DS would fail and none of them failed. Nintendo proved everyone wrong. You will be biting your tongue if Wii U becomes more successful than you thought it would be.

PS4 sold 1 million because of hype, nothing more. The media overhyped the PS4 because it has 8GB of RAM and because it didn't have DRM like the Xbox One. PS4 was overhyped and people will release sooner or later that it didn't live up to the hype. Plus how many of those 1 million PS4's were bought at launch just to re-sell them online?

datamonkey

#80

datamonkey said:

At this rate I think Nintendo will do well to match Gamecube sales.

I hate to say it but feel they have really dropped the ball with Wii U. They have had years to prepare for an awesome Wii U launch seeing as the Wii mostly died off around 2010 yet they failed to do so. In fact they mostly failed in the consoles first year let alone launch.

I know Nintendo do things their own way but that isn't always a positive thing and I think they have a mountain to climb just to get to Gamecube sales levels let alone N64 or SNES...

[Of course I'll be happy to be proved wrong!]

DarkJamD

#81

DarkJamD said:

@zeldagaymer93 I don't know what surveys you read but example when looking IGN's survey it points that 12% of their users are going to own Wii U before end of this year. Next year there will be lots of great games coming out so the numbers should be so much bigger after next 12 months.

divinelite

#83

divinelite said:

True, next two years people might need a second system. Ps4 and Xbox One being too identical, so wiiu might rise at the time, assuming it's still a live and kicking

With rumor of Xbox closing down / sold, I don't want Nintendo ever went out from console space. The three consoles are needed one and another to make it perfect harmony (in fact, in three Kingdom era, Shu Wei we need each other to exist to keep everyone of them strong)

hotlfusion

#84

hotlfusion said:

In so many ways this reminds me of the 3ds a couple years back. Intelligent people predicting gloom and doom.
What the PS4 sells is irrelevant. What the xb1 sells is irrelevant. The future is unknown. I will take a low guess estimate based on what nintendo are doing now and say 25m. If Nintendo do what I hope they do with marketing and games I would say 50m.

BTW What are the HD twins? From what i gathered one of them dont do HD much better than the wii u.

FJOJR

#85

FJOJR said:

Hopefully something akin to the N64 or more happens. But the games they need to reach that number will have to be the same philosophy as it was then with the "Dream Team" of 1st and 2nd party devs making hit after hit and diving into the less used franchises of Star Fox and F-Zero.

kyuubikid213

#86

kyuubikid213 said:

I don't know why GameCube sales are such a bad thing... When the sixth generation of consoles was around, I saw a GameCube literally all over the place. I couldn't get away from that lunchbox-looking beauty. And on top of that, as mentioned in this thread, didn't the GameCube get incredible titles like Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Smash Bros, Wind Waker, Resident Evil (pretty much all that were out at the time), and its fair share of multiplats?

If we're looking at a GameCube level of sales with the Wii U, as long as those great games keep coming around, why bother worrying about who is outselling who? Sure, it could mean less multiplats, but we still have first and second party games to look forward to. And if you're still worried, think of the "guaranteed" third party games like Call of Duty.

Lookin' forward to this generation. Can't wait for it to officially kick off with the Xbox One coming out tonight.

blaisedinsd

#87

blaisedinsd said:

@BossBattles Exactly. That's what's important and that the company make money. I am pretty sure Sony and Microsoft lost money overall on the PS3 and 360 from what I have read. Nintendo made money and they are in a great position again to make money this gen with the Wii U and 3DS.

Beta

#88

Beta said:

Well, I wouldn't call Nintendo out just yet. The estimates are probably just calculating it y today's standards, but they don't know what the future holds, do they? For all we know, Nintendo might just do what no one ever expected and it shifts units, so who knows? The future is a mystery and the only thing we can do is sit back, enjoy our games and see what will happen.

Kuksenkov

#90

Kuksenkov said:

@8thGenConsoles - I agree with you, i've been reading the comments, and that user is being a dbag.

Anyways, I can't predict the future, I care about sales, because high sales mostly mean more games, but Wii's librabry had tons of shovelware and crappy games. So more games is not equal to quality games.

I'm not worried about the Wii U, I DO hope it gets to sell pretty well. I'm actually worried about Xbox One, when something starts the wrong way... It ends even worst, and the Xbox one got more hate than Nintendo's consoles combined, Microsoft even had to change tons of features that were going to be in the console, that's how bad it was for them... Wii U atleast had a good launch lineup, high expectations, some source of third party support etc...

We'll see.

darkgamer001

#91

darkgamer001 said:

herpderp PS4 sold 1 million at launch, therefore Wii U will fail

Good god, some of these comments made me facepalm. But I guess nowadays, a console war is won by pre-order numbers. Right? Sure.

EaZy_T

#92

EaZy_T said:

I saw Reggie being interviewed on a TV show tonight talking about some of the new games and saying that they are going to market Wii U heavily in 2014.

Personally, I sat out on the Wii generation because all I needed was the GameCube. It was a great console, there were tons of awesome games that kept me busy until the Wii U landed on my TV's HDMI port.

shigulicious

#93

shigulicious said:

I think sales figures for the WiiU during this quarter will surprise some. I work in retail and sales have definitely picked up with the Mario/luigi bundle. After the early adopters of the ps4 and Xbox1, people will look at games and see Mario World, Wind Waker, D/K( soon) etc. Alot of "casuals" that bought the Wii will see the improvements on the WiiU soon, sales will increase. It will be a secondary system for many gamers with one of the other consoles. Blah blah blah. 50 million WiiU's sold in 7 years.

rjejr

#94

rjejr said:

@zeldagaymer93 - Well I can't argue w/ that math, I'm a big math guy, so I'll just argue w/ Nintendo instead.

Nintendo sold 4 million over the past year, but they really only sold 1 mil over the past year and 3 mil last year at launch. Nintendo basically went this entire year w/o games or advertising. I bought Pikmin 3 and Sonic and W101 but when those are your marquee games - along w/ a single player non-licensed Lego game - you deserve to not sell any consoles. And w/ the asymmetrical NintendoLand bundle they probably deserved to sell even less than they did.

But now is the real launch, w/ some real games coming out, and some real games bundle w/ the hardware, and a price that will look competitive compared to the new higher priced consoles just released. So I think it's unrealistic to think the console will continue to sell at only 4 mil a year. Though even if I bump that up to 6 mil for 6 years that still only 36, add in the 4 mil and that's 40, so I can see how 50 mil seems impossible. Makes me wonder how Wii hit 100 mil actually. But 40 would still double the Gamecube, that would be something.

withoutdk

#98

withoutdk said:

@Park_Triolo

nej det kan du ikke... ved ikke helt hvad man bruger det der friends m.m. til... ?
kan ikke huske vores navn på wii uén.. men kan finde ud af det.. har bare meget at se til lige pt.

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