I'll grab this game in a little bit. I just spent my spare pocket change for the moment on Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, Mother's Day stuff, and a gift for a friend (Xenoblade Chronicles 3D).
I REALLY wanted this when they first announced it and I won't pass on it. I'll be sure to get it in a week or two when I've got more cash saved up...and then I'll be broke again because Splatoon will be coming out around the same time...
My Wii is still kicking and I bought it shortly after launch. The original Wiimote and Nunchuck are still in good condition, too. I hope this little white box powers on forever...
Didn't know Sony AND Microsoft rejected the motion controls...
I think it's funny how people see five maps (to start with) as a bad thing. Whenever I play Call of Duty with friends, we only EVER play on Nuketown (specifically Black Ops II) or, like, two other maps over and over...because we like them.
On top of that, Nintendo put a make-every-stage-Final-Destination button in Smash Bros. I see how it's not the same because there are over 30 stages in Smash Bros, but still...
While I'm sure I'll buy the Mario Kart 8 DLC...the Smash Bros. DLC would need to be truly spectacular to make me spend money for it. Mewtwo's great and all (and I got him for "free" because I own both versions), but I play Link, Toon Link, Shulk, Zero Suit Samus, and Kirby more often than anyone else...so extra characters could prove to be a waste of money...and I play on Omega Stages more often with my friends, so that'd be kind of pointless too unless I really wanted another reskin of Final Destination (which would be cool, but I don't see me spending THAT much money on it unless the Normal version of the stage is REALLY exciting).
While I will commend Mario Kart for hitting such great numbers, the cynic in me does have to point out that everyone that got the 32 GB Wii U (until the new bundles) has Nintendo Land and only a few of us (me included) bought it separately.
It looks pretty good, but I'm not sure if I'm going to grab this one...yet.
And @Geonjaha, I don't think anyone's going to say this is better than Minecraft... Minecraft's Minecraft and this is a clone. Minecraft is better. End of story.
Haven't beaten Dementium: The Ward, yet (such a large backlog), but it's pretty great. I think if Renegade Kid were able to work with the Silent Hill license, they could have only done good things for it.
Hrm. I'll see about the DLC, but I'm not sure if I'll want it as much as I did with the Mario Kart 8 DLC.
If this game is as big as MonolithSoft's been touting, then I won't want DLC at all and I'm sure to miss quests that'll already be in the game from the start (as I know I have with Skyrim and some side quests in Zelda games).
@TwilightAngel Okay, I'm not sure if you got it...but my "salty fanboy comments" were all sarcasm. A parody of those that are on this site that rarely have anything positive to say about Nintendo and are quick to understate any positive news.
And I'm no fanboy. So, I'd appreciate it if you stopped that.
Tell me more about how the multiplayer in Super Mario Bros. is the EXACT SAME as the mulitplayer in Super Mario 3D World... Oh wait. It's not.
Also, please tell me how 3D doesn't change the game. It's not like a 3D environment changes the way level design works or anything. It's not like a 3D world opens up gaming possibilities or anything. What? 3D DOES change how a game works? You're serious?? Oh man...
You were so caught up in trying to find a contradiction in my logic that you just made yourself look foolish. Please. Pay attention and think.
Now if you'll excuse me, I've grown tired of this topic and am off to play Halo with my friend. Bye.
EDIT: Also, I already stated in comment #165 that I like the Call of Duty series so you're wrong there to. Bye.
@Darknyht Again, why would someone intentionally buy an inferior version of a game? If the Wii U versions of the later multiplats were up to par with the PS3 and 360 versions, we wouldn't be in this position because the Wii U versions wouldn't be outright missing game modes or just be inferior games overall.
I do buy third party titles (I own Bayonetta 2, Black Ops II, and Assassin's Creed among others), but when the rest of the third party releases on Wii U are intentionally neutered ports because developers have the thought that "They won't sell anyway, so why will I try?" I'm not going to support that.
Besides, If I do support neutered releases on the Wii U, we'll just be in the same position. It'd likely be something along the lines of "Here's Destiny on the Wii U! A year late with no upcoming DLC, but that's what you guys want, right? It won't bother you!"
@Yorumi ...then you're not talking about a unified console. You're talking about a temporary monopoly on the home console industry.
Prove Mario is more different than CoD? Okay. Off the top of my head...
MARIO: New items. Added Overworld Map. Yoshi (temporarily) Added Multiplayer. Gave Mario new moves besides just jumping. 3D environments. New kinds of level types (shadow themed levels for example in 3D World) Plessie. Interacting with the levels via GamePad (Temporary Changes) Completely new style of game with Sunshine. Game Modes like Coin Rush
CALL OF DUTY: New weapons (although they all still shoot bullets into faces) Perks (including dogs) Online Verticality (finally) In AW Prestige Zombies New game Modes. DLC
@Darknyht And that's my point. If they would actually take the risk, they could make it so the console they'd port it to wouldn't be a "system that would not make profit."
The ONLY reason the Wii U is in the position it is in now is because third parties avoided it. Is that a cause of Nintendo not using x86 architecture for easy porting? Yeah, but these same developers have already proven that's not exactly a big issue as we do have Batman Arkham City: Armored Edition, Assassin's Creed III, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, Mass Effect 3: Special Edition, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, and Call of Duty: Ghosts. All of those third party ports that were functional, but no. They stopped porting and stopped putting effort into the ports they DID bring over.
Let's be completely honest here. If you had a Wii U and a 360 and Game Z was coming out for both of them, would you get the 360 version which has promised DLC and patch support or would you get the Wii U version that has multiplayer removed for some reason? Obviously the 360 version because you're getting the proper experience. Now if it was the reverse? If in some alternate universe, the Wii U version had a ton of extra features got the games on time, I highly doubt people would avoid that version of the game.
@Yorumi I never said that. Of course PC hardware would continue to improve, but it's not like there'd be any competition to truly strive to improve the system. It'd be whatever it was and that would be it.
Sure, it could be a 4K uncapped framerate console and be literally the best thing ever, but then what? What incentive would there be to make it truly extraordinary as opposed to just GOOD. That's what competition does. Competition fuels that fire to make developers make something that stands above the rest...at least, that's what they try to do.
@Yorumi I'm not saying that because I like it and therefore it is better. I'm saying that because I can actively look at the games and see what's changed over the years. Can you objectively look at Call of Duty and show me the same level of changes?
I don't hate Call of Duty. Let's get that straight. But my earliest entry in the series is Call of Duty 2: Big Red One and my latest entry is Call of Duty Black Ops II and, to be honest, there's not much that I can sit there and say "Oh cool! That's a nice new edition!" I like the games, but there aren't any significant differences I can point out.
@Quorthon, I never said Bulletstorm didn't sell well because there were a lot of shooters. I was saying that comparing Bulletstorm's sales to the sales of Wonderful 101 and ZombiU was silly because Bulletstorm launched at a time when there were tens of millions of PS3s and 360s and ZombiU and Wonderful 101 launched on a console with a few million units at best. Even if only 30% of the userbase bought either game, the numbers would have Bulletstorm higher.
Also, what are you trying to do? Twilight Princess and Killzone 3? You're honestly trying to tell me that two games from well known and beloved franchises are comparable to a new IP? Isn't that what this whole argument is about anyway?? It doesn't matter if they were launch titles because they were Twilight Princess and Killzone 3! Pay attention before you start trying to point out my contradictions.
And another thing, a unified gaming console would be a terrible thing because there'd be no competition and the hardware developer could make whatever piece of crap they wanted to and we'd HAVE to buy it because there'd be nothing else.
@Quorthon Well, first off, that's completely wrong because EA had no problem releasing Battlefield 4 on 360 even though there were millions of those without harddrives... And Ubisoft did the same with Watch_Dogs So, there goes that argument.
Also, it's not like the PS4 or One are completey different from their 7th gen counterparts because for the majority of their first years on the market, they got cross-gen ports and not much else. A short list I can think of are Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Destiny, Watch_Dogs, Battlefield 4, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, Wolfenstein: The New Order, Tomb Raider, The Last of Us, Alien: Isolation, Shadow of Mordor, Farcry 4, Titanfall, and Dragon Age Inquisition. If these same developers are to be believed, it wasn't THAT difficult to port the 360 version to the Wii U, so yes, I will continue to blame third parties for not porting these games (among others) to the Wii U, thus causing the system to not seem worth it to gaming consumers.
Sure, Nintendo has a different architecture, but not porting because it'd be "too hard" is just developer laziness. Remember back in the early 2000s when a game could come out on the PC, Xbox, PS2, GameCube, and GBA? And the game had different features based on the hardware it was on? That's what developers should strive to do now, but they don't because if they can't drag and drop the code between systems, they can't be bothered. I will stand by this until someone proves otherwise.
I'll admit Nintendo's made their mistakes, but all of this is not their fault.
@Quorthon, could you stop generalizing the entire Nintendo fanbase? Please?
Also, your Bulletstorm example falls flat on it's face as it launched on the PS3 and 360 at a time when there were quite a few of those out there whereas Wonderful 101 and ZombiU were launch or launch window titles.
I also own MadWorld, Geist, and a handful of other different games. What's your point? Say what you will about Nintendo gamers, but as you've said, that's the majority of the gaming public.
And if anyone likes to pretend to be superior and different, it's people like you who think that just because you own some of the hidden gems and shun the popular for the sake of it.
I'll admit that I've given Call of Duty it's fair share of crap, but if we're being totally honest here, there's a much MUCH larger difference between Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario 3D World. A MUCH larger difference between Pokemon Red and Pokemon Omega Ruby. What's Call of Duty really changed and altered since the earlier iterations? Online, perks, and some dogs.
So...can we all agree that everyone buys what they like and are wary of something different and new? That's why there are "hidden gems" in game libraries.
Yes. It's a fact that Mario, Call of Duty, and Halo will sell and a fair amount of people will buy those games. That doesn't mean the gamers that like those particular franchises turn their noses up at any other game, just that they're not sure of what this new IP will be and a vast majority of us would feel burned if we spent $60 on a new game that ended up being terrible.
Also, I'm only pointing a finger at third parties because, unless I'm completely wrong and this world has changed, games sell hardware. Yeah, Nintendo has to hold up their end, but if third parties actually put in effort, they could sell systems with their products.
I do find it a little funny that someone brought up Nintendo rehashing their franchises when we're on a Call of Duty: Black Ops III article.
@Tazcat2011 Investors? What? Nonono. You don't understand... You see, 12 million is bigger than 9 million. It doesn't matter about the actual behind-the-scenes of it all. The One has more sales and more support from the rest of the industry.
You ask anyone on the street which new game console they'll buy and they will pick between either the PS4 or One. The Wii U (and Nintendo) aren't even a factor to the average consumer.
Nintendo is bad. They should just leave the industry already. [/angry and salty sarcasm]
@Tazcat2011 The industry doesn't care if it's just shipped units or sold. Fact of the matter is the One is getting third party support the Wii U isn't.
It's like Quorthon and TwilightAngel say, Nintendo's becoming irrelevant (implying they already aren't) and should just leave the industry or just go third party.
@Tazcat2011 That's wrong.
According to these numbers from VGChartz (it doesn't matter that it's VGChartz) http://www.vgchartz.com/
Wii U: 9.2 million
XB1: 12.0 milliion
PS4: 21 million
3DS: 52 million
Vita: 10.3 million
The One is outselling the Wii U, so it's relevant enough to stay. Also, it's got third party support. No one cares about handheld sales. Nintendo's the one that needs to (and should) go third party...althought, it'd just be better if they sold off their IPs and left the industry all together.
@Quorthon
Thank you for your essay proving me wrong.
I will never again say anything without a large amount of evidence.
Nintendo should go third party because clearly they're just a trash irrelevant company now and no one cares about them. Double standards don't matter. Putting in actual effort to make games doesn't matter. Nintendo's a failure. The Wii was a failure. The 3DS is a failure. Everything Nintendo is terrible. I hope the NX is actually an announcement of them going third party.
I'm just a blind, stupid fanboy because I own Nintendo consoles. I'm so glad there's nothing redeeming about this company. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Are you finally satisfied? Damn.
I bet if Nintendo went third party, their games wouldn't sell and then gamers would cry out about how Nintendo should just leave the industry and how it'd be so much better without them.
@TwilightAngel I guess you're trying to get under my skin with this...fact of the matter is, Off-TV Play and a larger offscreen map are amazing features and I don't get why so many people like you shun it.
What's better? Having to pause the game constantly to see the map of the area or being able to see a large map in the palm of your hands at any given time? Having to give up your family room TV and stop playing games because someone else wants to watch something or being able to bring your game down to the GamePad and gaming on? Having to get up and turn on your TV and sit down to play a game or picking up your controller and gaming right there in bed on lazy mornings?
Then of course, there's the Kinect that doesn't exist anymore. I wonder which of the two is truly a gimmick...?
@Quorthon High prices for gimmicky consoles only fits one console in the past...ever. The Xbox One.
$300 for a Wii U with a new controller that's basically a tablet that allows for dual screen gaming and/or off-TV play is far from expensive or gimmicky.
No incentives for 3rd parties is their fault. If they released the games people wanted (exactly as it was on other platforms), there'd be an audience for them on Nintendo consoles. End of story. That was an excuse with the Wii with it's different control method and it being underpowered compared to the PS3 and 360, but that's not the case with the Wii U which is more powerful than the consoles previously mentioned and not so outclassed by the PS4 and One that it'd be completely impossible for third party games to run on it.
Nintendo struggling on the outskirts? Are you serious? Show me someone that doesn't know Mario Kart or Smash Bros. and I'll show you someone who doesn't care about gaming period. Yes, the Wii U is in a tough spot, but Nintendo's not "struggling." The 3DS with 44+ million sales and a wide variety of games says "hello."
And no. Nintendo would not be better off as a third party developer. They are far from making piss-poor consoles. Again, referencing the 7th generation, how many hundreds of thousands of people's Xbox 360s red ringed? How many PS3s "yellow lighted"? Okay. Compare those numbers to Wii failures. Right. Thought so. And if you're saying this to say the Wii U's not a graphical powerhouse, please remind me when that's what was necessary to make a good console. Oh, yeah. That's right. This past generation when that's all anyone cared about. Pretty visuals first, actual game second.
Seriously, this new mentality towards Nintendo lately is pissing me off.
You know, this upsets me, but I think the pain of not getting the big third party games this fall will be numbed with Xenoblade Chronicles X, Splatoon, Star Fox, and the backlog I already have.
Don't get me wrong, I am upset, but I do have games I can play and there are other games I'm looking forward to. I'll just buy those instead. Activision'll be fine not getting my money because there are millions of others who will be giving their cash to them.
I'll stay optimistic for more third party support on Nintendo's next console, but for now, I'll live with what I have and eagerly await SMTxFE and Zelda U.
Personally, I don't have much investment in mobile gaming because my phone is an older smartphone, so it likely wouldn't be able to run any of Nintendo's offerings as it doesn't run other companies games very well.
I'll continue to support Nintendo by buying their games and consoles as long as they're still top quality.
As long as we're not [forced into] paying $15 for a skin (Riot) or $3 for 3000 coins, Nintendo and other companies can keep the DLC coming.
I'll buy DLC if it adds more content to an already fantastic--and complete--game. I won't buy DLC if therest of the game was literally chopped up to be sold as DLC.
Aaaaaand the anti-Nintendo people have more fuel for their fire.
It's certainly a downgrade, but I'll still grab the game as early as I can. I didn't buy Xenoblade Chronicles because people thought it looked beautiful, I got it because you all wouldn't stop talking about how amazing it was and how it was the best (J)RPG of the 7th generation.
I think Splatoon will sell really well for a Wii U exclusive.
It looks like it's pretty popular amongst us here on Nintendo Life and it looks like it will be a game that's a must-have for the console, but I doubt it'll increase the sales of the console by much because the PS4, XBO, and PC gamers already have Battlefield, Call of Duty, and a plethora of other online shooters to spend their money on.
I do think the game will do really well for the console it's on. Maybe even be a million sales game.
I know the Wii U won't be around forever, but I get the feeling that no matter WHEN the Wii U's time is finally up, analysts and the rest of the "gaming media" will jump out and say "I told you the Wii U was on its way out! Nya nya!"
I'm sure this has already been said somewhere on this page, but I won't mind DLC as long as both of the following conditions hold true.
1. I get my money's worth of content. So far, I think Nintendo's done well here. I've only bought the added tracks in Mario and for $15 you get a handful of new racers, new karts, and new tracks.
2. The extra content is NEW content and not just content locked away on the disc behind a paywall or content that Nintendo decided to cut from the full game to make me pay for it.
As long as DLC doesn't get outrageous, I'll be fine with it.
As for microtransactions... No. I won't buy those. Not a chance. I use my money to buy games (among other things) I would never spend, say, 50 cents to give Mario a Super Mushroom or a dollar to continue playing Animal Crossing today.
@StarDust4Ever Yeah. You...you probably should. And I did find the source picture. You can do Google Image searches through Google Chrome now...it only took me a few seconds.
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Re: Review: Attack on Titan: Humanity in Chains (3DS)
I'll grab this game in a little bit. I just spent my spare pocket change for the moment on Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, Mother's Day stuff, and a gift for a friend (Xenoblade Chronicles 3D).
I REALLY wanted this when they first announced it and I won't pass on it. I'll be sure to get it in a week or two when I've got more cash saved up...and then I'll be broke again because Splatoon will be coming out around the same time...
Always broke...
Re: Video: We Deduce That The Great Ace Attorney is Looking Pretty Good
Dunno if it's already on the site somewhere else, but here's a video that's got subs in the annotation.
Re: Nintendo "Currently Investigating" The Idea Of A Region-Free NX
Region locked or not...it won't bother me as long as the games I do get are good.
And hey, waiting for Xenoblade Chronicles and Last Story was a pain, but it was GREAT when they did come.
Re: Nintendo's E3 Focus to Reportedly be on Wii U and 3DS, not Smart Devices or NX
That's basically what I expected...and everyone else here.
Re: Video: Did You Know Gaming? Explores the Fascinating History of the Wii
My Wii is still kicking and I bought it shortly after launch. The original Wiimote and Nunchuck are still in good condition, too. I hope this little white box powers on forever...
Didn't know Sony AND Microsoft rejected the motion controls...
Re: Nintendo Outlines Splatoon's Free Post-Launch Content
I think it's funny how people see five maps (to start with) as a bad thing. Whenever I play Call of Duty with friends, we only EVER play on Nuketown (specifically Black Ops II) or, like, two other maps over and over...because we like them.
On top of that, Nintendo put a make-every-stage-Final-Destination button in Smash Bros. I see how it's not the same because there are over 30 stages in Smash Bros, but still...
Re: Video: Nintendo of America's Splatoon TV Commercial Attempts to Introduce a Theme Song
That was...interesting.
Not exactly something I'll be humming to myself at work, but I know I'll run to the living room if I hear that coming from the TV.
Re: Nintendo Suggests That Additional DLC for Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. Will Keep Us Playing
While I'm sure I'll buy the Mario Kart 8 DLC...the Smash Bros. DLC would need to be truly spectacular to make me spend money for it. Mewtwo's great and all (and I got him for "free" because I own both versions), but I play Link, Toon Link, Shulk, Zero Suit Samus, and Kirby more often than anyone else...so extra characters could prove to be a waste of money...and I play on Omega Stages more often with my friends, so that'd be kind of pointless too unless I really wanted another reskin of Final Destination (which would be cool, but I don't see me spending THAT much money on it unless the Normal version of the stage is REALLY exciting).
Re: Mario Kart 8 Passes Five Million Sales and eShop Download Numbers Continue to Rise
While I will commend Mario Kart for hitting such great numbers, the cynic in me does have to point out that everyone that got the 32 GB Wii U (until the new bundles) has Nintendo Land and only a few of us (me included) bought it separately.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Kickstarter Campaign Smashes Its Funding Goal In Less Than An Hour
Backed it. Looking forward to its release.
Re: Playtonic's Project Ukulele Becomes Yooka-Laylee, Wii U Release Confirmed
@PlywoodStick
I see what you did there...
Re: Video: Sin & Punishment: Successor of the Skies Shines On Wii U
Looks like something that inspired Kid Icarus:Uprising...and I loved that, so yeah, I'll grab this when it comes out.
At the end of June.
Re: Review: Cube Creator 3D (3DS eShop)
It looks pretty good, but I'm not sure if I'm going to grab this one...yet.
And @Geonjaha, I don't think anyone's going to say this is better than Minecraft... Minecraft's Minecraft and this is a clone. Minecraft is better. End of story.
Re: Renegade Kid Twice Pitched Silent Hill DS Projects to Konami
Haven't beaten Dementium: The Ward, yet (such a large backlog), but it's pretty great. I think if Renegade Kid were able to work with the Silent Hill license, they could have only done good things for it.
Re: Weirdness: Shigeru Miyamoto Takes on a Shinya Arino Level in Mario Maker, and It's Awesome
Looks pretty cool, but I'm not sure if it's my cup of tea.
I'm sure this'll be on the Wara Wara Plaza screen for months, though.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X Paid-DLC Details Emerge With Characters, Quests and Skell Unlocks
Hrm. I'll see about the DLC, but I'm not sure if I'll want it as much as I did with the Mario Kart 8 DLC.
If this game is as big as MonolithSoft's been touting, then I won't want DLC at all and I'm sure to miss quests that'll already be in the game from the start (as I know I have with Skyrim and some side quests in Zelda games).
But we'll see.
Re: Mighty No. 9 Confirmed for September Release, Along With Physical Retail Version
Physical release for me.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@TwilightAngel Okay, I'm not sure if you got it...but my "salty fanboy comments" were all sarcasm. A parody of those that are on this site that rarely have anything positive to say about Nintendo and are quick to understate any positive news.
And I'm no fanboy. So, I'd appreciate it if you stopped that.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Yorumi
Right. Please...
Tell me more about how the multiplayer in Super Mario Bros. is the EXACT SAME as the mulitplayer in Super Mario 3D World... Oh wait. It's not.
Also, please tell me how 3D doesn't change the game. It's not like a 3D environment changes the way level design works or anything. It's not like a 3D world opens up gaming possibilities or anything. What? 3D DOES change how a game works? You're serious?? Oh man...
You were so caught up in trying to find a contradiction in my logic that you just made yourself look foolish. Please. Pay attention and think.
Now if you'll excuse me, I've grown tired of this topic and am off to play Halo with my friend. Bye.
EDIT: Also, I already stated in comment #165 that I like the Call of Duty series so you're wrong there to. Bye.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Darknyht
Again, why would someone intentionally buy an inferior version of a game? If the Wii U versions of the later multiplats were up to par with the PS3 and 360 versions, we wouldn't be in this position because the Wii U versions wouldn't be outright missing game modes or just be inferior games overall.
I do buy third party titles (I own Bayonetta 2, Black Ops II, and Assassin's Creed among others), but when the rest of the third party releases on Wii U are intentionally neutered ports because developers have the thought that "They won't sell anyway, so why will I try?" I'm not going to support that.
Besides, If I do support neutered releases on the Wii U, we'll just be in the same position. It'd likely be something along the lines of "Here's Destiny on the Wii U! A year late with no upcoming DLC, but that's what you guys want, right? It won't bother you!"
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Yorumi
...then you're not talking about a unified console. You're talking about a temporary monopoly on the home console industry.
Prove Mario is more different than CoD? Okay. Off the top of my head...
MARIO:
New items.
Added Overworld Map.
Yoshi (temporarily)
Added Multiplayer.
Gave Mario new moves besides just jumping.
3D environments.
New kinds of level types (shadow themed levels for example in 3D World)
Plessie.
Interacting with the levels via GamePad
(Temporary Changes)
Completely new style of game with Sunshine.
Game Modes like Coin Rush
CALL OF DUTY:
New weapons (although they all still shoot bullets into faces)
Perks (including dogs)
Online
Verticality (finally) In AW
Prestige
Zombies
New game Modes.
DLC
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Darknyht
And that's my point. If they would actually take the risk, they could make it so the console they'd port it to wouldn't be a "system that would not make profit."
The ONLY reason the Wii U is in the position it is in now is because third parties avoided it. Is that a cause of Nintendo not using x86 architecture for easy porting? Yeah, but these same developers have already proven that's not exactly a big issue as we do have Batman Arkham City: Armored Edition, Assassin's Creed III, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, Mass Effect 3: Special Edition, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, and Call of Duty: Ghosts. All of those third party ports that were functional, but no. They stopped porting and stopped putting effort into the ports they DID bring over.
Let's be completely honest here. If you had a Wii U and a 360 and Game Z was coming out for both of them, would you get the 360 version which has promised DLC and patch support or would you get the Wii U version that has multiplayer removed for some reason? Obviously the 360 version because you're getting the proper experience. Now if it was the reverse? If in some alternate universe, the Wii U version had a ton of extra features got the games on time, I highly doubt people would avoid that version of the game.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Yorumi
What's different about Call of Duty? You shoot people, watch a cutscene, shoot people, watch something explode, and shoot people. Credits.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Yorumi
I never said that. Of course PC hardware would continue to improve, but it's not like there'd be any competition to truly strive to improve the system. It'd be whatever it was and that would be it.
Sure, it could be a 4K uncapped framerate console and be literally the best thing ever, but then what? What incentive would there be to make it truly extraordinary as opposed to just GOOD. That's what competition does. Competition fuels that fire to make developers make something that stands above the rest...at least, that's what they try to do.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Yorumi
I'm not saying that because I like it and therefore it is better. I'm saying that because I can actively look at the games and see what's changed over the years. Can you objectively look at Call of Duty and show me the same level of changes?
I don't hate Call of Duty. Let's get that straight. But my earliest entry in the series is Call of Duty 2: Big Red One and my latest entry is Call of Duty Black Ops II and, to be honest, there's not much that I can sit there and say "Oh cool! That's a nice new edition!" I like the games, but there aren't any significant differences I can point out.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Quorthon, I never said Bulletstorm didn't sell well because there were a lot of shooters. I was saying that comparing Bulletstorm's sales to the sales of Wonderful 101 and ZombiU was silly because Bulletstorm launched at a time when there were tens of millions of PS3s and 360s and ZombiU and Wonderful 101 launched on a console with a few million units at best. Even if only 30% of the userbase bought either game, the numbers would have Bulletstorm higher.
Also, what are you trying to do? Twilight Princess and Killzone 3? You're honestly trying to tell me that two games from well known and beloved franchises are comparable to a new IP? Isn't that what this whole argument is about anyway?? It doesn't matter if they were launch titles because they were Twilight Princess and Killzone 3! Pay attention before you start trying to point out my contradictions.
And another thing, a unified gaming console would be a terrible thing because there'd be no competition and the hardware developer could make whatever piece of crap they wanted to and we'd HAVE to buy it because there'd be nothing else.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Quorthon


Well, first off, that's completely wrong because EA had no problem releasing Battlefield 4 on 360 even though there were millions of those without harddrives...
And Ubisoft did the same with Watch_Dogs
So, there goes that argument.
Also, it's not like the PS4 or One are completey different from their 7th gen counterparts because for the majority of their first years on the market, they got cross-gen ports and not much else. A short list I can think of are Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Destiny, Watch_Dogs, Battlefield 4, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, Wolfenstein: The New Order, Tomb Raider, The Last of Us, Alien: Isolation, Shadow of Mordor, Farcry 4, Titanfall, and Dragon Age Inquisition. If these same developers are to be believed, it wasn't THAT difficult to port the 360 version to the Wii U, so yes, I will continue to blame third parties for not porting these games (among others) to the Wii U, thus causing the system to not seem worth it to gaming consumers.
Sure, Nintendo has a different architecture, but not porting because it'd be "too hard" is just developer laziness. Remember back in the early 2000s when a game could come out on the PC, Xbox, PS2, GameCube, and GBA? And the game had different features based on the hardware it was on? That's what developers should strive to do now, but they don't because if they can't drag and drop the code between systems, they can't be bothered. I will stand by this until someone proves otherwise.
I'll admit Nintendo's made their mistakes, but all of this is not their fault.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Quorthon, could you stop generalizing the entire Nintendo fanbase? Please?
Also, your Bulletstorm example falls flat on it's face as it launched on the PS3 and 360 at a time when there were quite a few of those out there whereas Wonderful 101 and ZombiU were launch or launch window titles.
I also own MadWorld, Geist, and a handful of other different games. What's your point? Say what you will about Nintendo gamers, but as you've said, that's the majority of the gaming public.
And if anyone likes to pretend to be superior and different, it's people like you who think that just because you own some of the hidden gems and shun the popular for the sake of it.
I'll admit that I've given Call of Duty it's fair share of crap, but if we're being totally honest here, there's a much MUCH larger difference between Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario 3D World. A MUCH larger difference between Pokemon Red and Pokemon Omega Ruby. What's Call of Duty really changed and altered since the earlier iterations? Online, perks, and some dogs.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
So...can we all agree that everyone buys what they like and are wary of something different and new? That's why there are "hidden gems" in game libraries.
Yes. It's a fact that Mario, Call of Duty, and Halo will sell and a fair amount of people will buy those games. That doesn't mean the gamers that like those particular franchises turn their noses up at any other game, just that they're not sure of what this new IP will be and a vast majority of us would feel burned if we spent $60 on a new game that ended up being terrible.
Also, I'm only pointing a finger at third parties because, unless I'm completely wrong and this world has changed, games sell hardware. Yeah, Nintendo has to hold up their end, but if third parties actually put in effort, they could sell systems with their products.
I do find it a little funny that someone brought up Nintendo rehashing their franchises when we're on a Call of Duty: Black Ops III article.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Tazcat2011 Investors? What? Nonono. You don't understand... You see, 12 million is bigger than 9 million. It doesn't matter about the actual behind-the-scenes of it all. The One has more sales and more support from the rest of the industry.
You ask anyone on the street which new game console they'll buy and they will pick between either the PS4 or One. The Wii U (and Nintendo) aren't even a factor to the average consumer.
Nintendo is bad. They should just leave the industry already. [/angry and salty sarcasm]
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Tazcat2011
The industry doesn't care if it's just shipped units or sold. Fact of the matter is the One is getting third party support the Wii U isn't.
It's like Quorthon and TwilightAngel say, Nintendo's becoming irrelevant (implying they already aren't) and should just leave the industry or just go third party.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Tazcat2011 That's wrong.
According to these numbers from VGChartz (it doesn't matter that it's VGChartz) http://www.vgchartz.com/
Wii U: 9.2 million
XB1: 12.0 milliion
PS4: 21 million
3DS: 52 million
Vita: 10.3 million
The One is outselling the Wii U, so it's relevant enough to stay. Also, it's got third party support. No one cares about handheld sales. Nintendo's the one that needs to (and should) go third party...althought, it'd just be better if they sold off their IPs and left the industry all together.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@RoomB31
I dunno what you're talking about. The Wii was bad. Nintendo is bad.
They shouldn't make video games anymore. No one cares.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Quorthon
Thank you for your essay proving me wrong.
I will never again say anything without a large amount of evidence.
Nintendo should go third party because clearly they're just a trash irrelevant company now and no one cares about them. Double standards don't matter. Putting in actual effort to make games doesn't matter. Nintendo's a failure. The Wii was a failure. The 3DS is a failure. Everything Nintendo is terrible. I hope the NX is actually an announcement of them going third party.
I'm just a blind, stupid fanboy because I own Nintendo consoles. I'm so glad there's nothing redeeming about this company. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Are you finally satisfied? Damn.
I bet if Nintendo went third party, their games wouldn't sell and then gamers would cry out about how Nintendo should just leave the industry and how it'd be so much better without them.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@TwilightAngel
I guess you're trying to get under my skin with this...fact of the matter is, Off-TV Play and a larger offscreen map are amazing features and I don't get why so many people like you shun it.
What's better? Having to pause the game constantly to see the map of the area or being able to see a large map in the palm of your hands at any given time? Having to give up your family room TV and stop playing games because someone else wants to watch something or being able to bring your game down to the GamePad and gaming on? Having to get up and turn on your TV and sit down to play a game or picking up your controller and gaming right there in bed on lazy mornings?
Then of course, there's the Kinect that doesn't exist anymore. I wonder which of the two is truly a gimmick...?
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
@Quorthon High prices for gimmicky consoles only fits one console in the past...ever. The Xbox One.
$300 for a Wii U with a new controller that's basically a tablet that allows for dual screen gaming and/or off-TV play is far from expensive or gimmicky.
No incentives for 3rd parties is their fault. If they released the games people wanted (exactly as it was on other platforms), there'd be an audience for them on Nintendo consoles. End of story. That was an excuse with the Wii with it's different control method and it being underpowered compared to the PS3 and 360, but that's not the case with the Wii U which is more powerful than the consoles previously mentioned and not so outclassed by the PS4 and One that it'd be completely impossible for third party games to run on it.
Nintendo struggling on the outskirts? Are you serious? Show me someone that doesn't know Mario Kart or Smash Bros. and I'll show you someone who doesn't care about gaming period. Yes, the Wii U is in a tough spot, but Nintendo's not "struggling." The 3DS with 44+ million sales and a wide variety of games says "hello."
And no. Nintendo would not be better off as a third party developer. They are far from making piss-poor consoles. Again, referencing the 7th generation, how many hundreds of thousands of people's Xbox 360s red ringed? How many PS3s "yellow lighted"? Okay. Compare those numbers to Wii failures. Right. Thought so. And if you're saying this to say the Wii U's not a graphical powerhouse, please remind me when that's what was necessary to make a good console. Oh, yeah. That's right. This past generation when that's all anyone cared about. Pretty visuals first, actual game second.
Seriously, this new mentality towards Nintendo lately is pissing me off.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
Quorthon wrote:
No. Never.
Re: Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black Ops III For Wii U, Though Activision is Noncommittal
You know, this upsets me, but I think the pain of not getting the big third party games this fall will be numbed with Xenoblade Chronicles X, Splatoon, Star Fox, and the backlog I already have.
Don't get me wrong, I am upset, but I do have games I can play and there are other games I'm looking forward to. I'll just buy those instead. Activision'll be fine not getting my money because there are millions of others who will be giving their cash to them.
I'll stay optimistic for more third party support on Nintendo's next console, but for now, I'll live with what I have and eagerly await SMTxFE and Zelda U.
Re: Nintendo 3DS System Update 9.7.0-25 Has Stability To Spare
My 3DS is so stable, it's what I hold on to when my reality begins to fall apart.
Re: Talking Point: Market Expectations Remain High For Nintendo and DeNA's Smart Device Crusade
If Nintendo and DeNA make it work, kudos to them.
Personally, I don't have much investment in mobile gaming because my phone is an older smartphone, so it likely wouldn't be able to run any of Nintendo's offerings as it doesn't run other companies games very well.
I'll continue to support Nintendo by buying their games and consoles as long as they're still top quality.
Re: Poll: Would You Like Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. DLC to Expand for a Whole Generation?
As long as we're not [forced into] paying $15 for a skin (Riot) or $3 for 3000 coins, Nintendo and other companies can keep the DLC coming.
I'll buy DLC if it adds more content to an already fantastic--and complete--game. I won't buy DLC if therest of the game was literally chopped up to be sold as DLC.
Re: Official GameCube Controller Adapter for Wii U Available Again on Amazon in the US
[coughs violently]
Sorry, I couldn't handle how fast the money left my account for that one.
Re: Video: Xenoblade Chronicles X May Have Been Subject to a Slight Graphics Downgrade
Aaaaaand the anti-Nintendo people have more fuel for their fire.
It's certainly a downgrade, but I'll still grab the game as early as I can. I didn't buy Xenoblade Chronicles because people thought it looked beautiful, I got it because you all wouldn't stop talking about how amazing it was and how it was the best (J)RPG of the 7th generation.
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
I think Splatoon will sell really well for a Wii U exclusive.
It looks like it's pretty popular amongst us here on Nintendo Life and it looks like it will be a game that's a must-have for the console, but I doubt it'll increase the sales of the console by much because the PS4, XBO, and PC gamers already have Battlefield, Call of Duty, and a plethora of other online shooters to spend their money on.
I do think the game will do really well for the console it's on. Maybe even be a million sales game.
Re: Analyst Thinks Nintendo Is Already Winding Down Wii U Ahead Of Nintendo NX Launch
I know the Wii U won't be around forever, but I get the feeling that no matter WHEN the Wii U's time is finally up, analysts and the rest of the "gaming media" will jump out and say "I told you the Wii U was on its way out! Nya nya!"
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Plans for DLC and Microtransactions Point to Changed Priorities
I'm sure this has already been said somewhere on this page, but I won't mind DLC as long as both of the following conditions hold true.
1. I get my money's worth of content. So far, I think Nintendo's done well here. I've only bought the added tracks in Mario and for $15 you get a handful of new racers, new karts, and new tracks.
2. The extra content is NEW content and not just content locked away on the disc behind a paywall or content that Nintendo decided to cut from the full game to make me pay for it.
As long as DLC doesn't get outrageous, I'll be fine with it.
As for microtransactions... No. I won't buy those. Not a chance. I use my money to buy games (among other things) I would never spend, say, 50 cents to give Mario a Super Mushroom or a dollar to continue playing Animal Crossing today.
Re: Review: Angry Video Game Nerd Adventures (Wii U eShop)
@StarDust4Ever Yeah. You...you probably should. And I did find the source picture. You can do Google Image searches through Google Chrome now...it only took me a few seconds.
Re: Review: Angry Video Game Nerd Adventures (Wii U eShop)
@StarDust4Ever W-wow. Your avatar is about as risqué as it gets, isn't it?
Re: Review: Angry Video Game Nerd Adventures (Wii U eShop)
Once my wallet recovers from my phone bill and the clothes I bought last week, I think I'll grab this game.
Re: It's Not An April Fool, The Binding Of Issac: Rebirth Really Is Coming To The New 3DS And Wii U
I have the original on my laptop, but I might think about snagging the Wii U version of Rebirth.
Wonder if it will have off TV Play?