Poll: Would You Like Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. DLC to Expand for a Whole Generation?

Would love more Smash and MK8 DLC but give poor Sakurai a break for crying out loud.

They are doing it great with MK8 but I really don't like how they are handling Smash Bros. I don't plan on spending a cent on SB.

MK8's DLC are a blessing, Smash's costumes are exactly what we don't need as DLC.

If the next Mario Kart 8 DLC was an update that added arena style battle mode tracks then I think a lot of people would be very happy.

I'll buy any additional characters they release for Smash Bros, but the Mii costumes don't really interest me. Maybe if there were premium skins for the existing characters I'd give it a go. (Raccoon suit for Mario, Classic models for characters from the earlier games, etc...)

I voted very positively for the MK8 questions and "I don't know" regarding Smash. Mewtwo has pretty much added no replayability for Smash (Classic and All Star finish and then that's it, more stages would be much better imo) whereas the MK8 content lasts for hundreds of hours per pack when mixed in with the older content online.

@Tops I agree, I'd want MK8 DLC of the same quality as the current packs and 200cc mode to last through the rest of the Wii U's lifespan.

More! More! Mooooore!

MK 8 has the worst roster. Keep character dlc constantly flowing in to solve that problem and a 6 month spread on new tracks. Win and win.

Edit: in the interest of keeping everyone happy, I think they should release some battle mode tracks. Those were only a big deal for me for SNES but, that's just me. Others still want them. Let them have their cake too.

So far, only the MK8 DLC has been what it should be in my opinion. I don't like the Smash DLC very much. How cool would Smash's DLC be if it were similar to MK8, in that for £8 or whatever it is, you get instead 3 characters and 3 stages.

I actually love Mario kart 8 DLC and think how Nintendo are handling it is great!

Also love SSB DLC - up coming characters it nice if they added DLC in packs like Mario kart 8.

As for costumes i think there nice idea special if they released costumes of characters that didn't make it into smash......cough cough ripley 😄

I think pricing is ok! Just look at New mortal kombat. X micro transactions uproar!

If Nintendo was doing that you all be moaning!

If don't like them then don't buy them. Simple!

I personally only bought - proto man because costumes Was to awesome not to and majora's mask which cost £1.38 which isn't big by no means.

While I think the DLC for MK8 has been good value, I think there comes a time when enough is enough. How many tracks are in the game, DLC included? Will it be 48? Adding another 30 tracks would probably not add much - diminishing returns and such. And the character you race with doesn't really change the things enough - each character needs some cool special moves to get me interested in newcomers.

Unless the DLC changes the game, rather than just expanding it, I don't want to keep ploughing money into the same old thing.

Though battle arenas, or innovative track designs that really mix things up somehow, would get my interest.

I say no, because then they would completely exhaust those games, to the point where when the next-gen sequels come out there would be no hype or anticipation for them. Nintendo is in the business of protecting the appeal of these franchises so they can release sequels to maximum impact. Overkill is never a good long-term strategy.

I guess there are people (like children who think they want ice cream all the time without realizing the consequences) for whom enough is never enough and for some reason no amount of content could ever satisfy them, but I've discovered this amazing thing called "other games to play" so it doesn't bother me so much.

So no, I wouldn't really want a never-ending stream of DLC (for one thing, how much would the complete version of the game end up costing?) But then I'm generally a bit of a purist and generally against such DLC. I like a game to be a complete and contained piece of work/art, rather than a load of vaguely connected bits that some people have and some people haven't.

@Gen0neD agreed why do need we pink gold peach & metal Mario don't get started on babies! they should been replace with one other Nintendo franchises Characters!

Yep, keep them coming please.

I'm so glad they didn't just get the games out and leave it at that.

MK8 dlc has been fantastic but I would like to see some more stages or custom stage tools in a dlc pack for smash bros.

The more MK8 DLC, the better. I am so excited for this new batch and the updates. New tracks + 200cc is going to feel like a new game. As for Smash and its DLC, poop.

I love MK8 DLC to death, but smash costumes? Did they not have anything better to do, like work on Lucas or something? But I do like the character DLC's, that's good.

The recent Mewtwo glitches? Probably caused by Sakurai being too stressed. The poor guy just wants a break from Smash, and he can't catch one.

my issue with character DLC for Smash (and any fighting game) is what if i dont like how the character plays. Its not too bad right now as we roughly know how Mewtwo and Lucas will play (outside of balancing) but say shovel knight/bayonetta is the next DLC what will they play like? i dont particularly want to pay to find out i suck with them. I would like "all new" characters to be bundled up to cover that risk

What about MK 7 DLC

So far they're doing it right. I am not a big fan of paying for costumes like the new Mii stuff on Smash, but anything that truly expands the game like new characters, tracks and vehicles is very welcome since both the base games are excellent and there is a big shortage of Wii U games so far in 2015.

Where the heck are my Mewtwo codes!?!

Anyway MK8 >>> Smash.

I really dont like the Nintendo Kart idea as i dont see what it would add to the game other than characters. I like how all the aesthetics of MK meshes together and give the impression that the Mario universe is bigger than we imagine. I love the Zelda track and like the what i've seen of the F-Zero and Animal Crossing courses but they've made an effort to blend them into the Mario style. Nintendo Kart like smash wouldn't be concerned with that and we'll end up with a hodgepodge of artsyles.

I'm old, I don't even want DLC. Finish the game let me buy it and play it at one price. I don't want to have to wait for all the pieces to come out drip drip drip. I don't want to worry about update times and how much the entire game is going to cost me. Make the game, move on to a different game. Variety.

If you ask for more DLC for a game you like you lose all credibility complaining about yearly iterations of COD. DLC may be cheaper than a new game every year, but your paying for more of the same game every year, that'seven worse.

I bought the MK8 bundle, and HW season pass (whatever they called it) and they were good. But I'd rather those people were working on new games for me to buy. I bought them b/c they were out there but I'd rather there were new games to buy instead. No new Wii U games in the US in April, June, July or August. DLC doesn't make up for that.

The Mario Kart expansions have been great and I'd certainly welcome more. I also like the idea posted above about battle arenas being added. The battle mode we currently have is pretty disappointing compared to previous titles.
I'm less fussed about the Smash Bros stuff. I might pick up some extra characters depending on who they are but so far nothing has really grabbed my attention.

I think this may ultimately be bad news for Nintendo fans- while they've been releasing full games and then adding extra content, and the games feel very complete even before the DLC is added, I think this is going to be less and less the case. What's the incentive for them to truly flesh out their titles if they know people are going to drop the extra cash on DLC? May be like the frog that gets boiled alive and doesn't know it. Sorry to be a downer...

@sevex If only they'd give battle a chance...

Smash costumes should be through amiibo. Also new stages please. Wind waker maybe?

The less games I have to buy, the better. I'd rather constantly update my games than be forced to buy new ones every year like certain.... OTHER notable yearly franchises.

They just need to make sure to add new stages, items and ATs to Smash as well.

@DarkCoolEdge pretty much sums up my opinion. I'm having more fun playing MK8 anyway.

The DLC is nice and I'd love to see it forever but I don't think that's a good strategy. The hype for Kart and Smash is still high, they're still the newest and biggest games. But it will slowly die down and I doubt that there'd be as much interest once we got to the 4th or 5th DLC packs.

So instead of that maybe the end of this year we get Splatoon DLC. Use it as a way to extend the life of that game. Maybe then some 3D World DLC along the lines of New Super Luigi U or Galaxy 2. Same with Starfox. Maybe after the next Zelda has been out for a bit they do a Majora's Mask on us but as DLC. Solid DLC for every prominent game instead of just milking one or two to death. I think that'd be the better strategy.

I cant understand all the hate on the smash costumes. 100% optional, and since Mii's are (to my understanding) 100% local, 0 impact to online either. They are a bit overpriced for me, considering what they offer so... I didn't buy them! I'm not sure what the price point on the costumes would be for me to pick them up, very low I'd imagine.

Mario Kart DLC is great. Let's just call it Mario Kart Infinity here on out

From my perspective: Absolutely !
This is how DLC should be made. Make a game, give it a few months to breath, and THEN think of stuff you can add to give it second wind.
This way, you create games that stay interesting for a long long time.

But were talking about Nintendo here, where a single character for a fighting game, one that was previously on the roster even, takes several months to develop due to fine tuning, balancing etc.
And we all know that Sakurai in particular is on the brink of falling to pieces already.

As much as id love to see even more DLC, give these guys a break from time to time. DLC should not become a main focus and should instantly be dropped if a new game is in the works.
As a means of "having something to do during development cycles" sure, give it your all, but in my opinion, its not that necessary to distract from other, major titles.

Mii costumes are completely useless to me since i dont ever use those characters but I guess it would only take an artist an afternoon or so to make them so no big deal, But mario kart 8 dlc is awesome and i would love them to make even more and turn the game in to Nintendo Kart pretty much, also more characters for smash bros are nice too

I would not mind if this was the last Smash for a very long time as long as they keep pouring DLC into it. Hell I would buy the game again if it was re-released for the NX with all the content.

Hopefully they'll continue Smash for a few years, Mario Kart I don't own anymore, so...eh.

I'd love to support Nintendo games over a long period if the content generated is both well made and reasonably priced.

With Smash it's just characters and costumes so far; at least with Hyrule Warriors each new character essentially came with new Adventure Maps to play with them on rather than repeating modes we're sick of, just with other characters.

I'll jump aboard the Smash DLC train once I get packs including characters, a couple of new levels and maybe expansions to current modes.

@skywake Agreed. Though I still would like to have some proper battle mode arenas

It would actually be awesome if they continue with DLC for mk8 and ssb4. They have huge DLC potential, so why not? Plus making a completely new game takes a lot more effort anyways.

@Tate24 Yup. I don't like that I always pick my Mii. Not because I want to be my Mii, but because I don't want to be anyone else. Certainly not Ludwig. For crying out loud. 😒

Smashes DLC isn't exactly the greatest thing ever But it's not the worst I've ever seen, MK8 on the other hand has had some amazing DLC, 12 dollars to increase the content of the game by 50%. Not only that, but the new tracks are awesome and on par with all the tracks originally included. Though, I don't think I'd want them to keep releasing DLC through the entire generation. I'm fine with the 2 packs that we've gotten already, but if they do keep going, i'd want maybe 2 more packs and i'd be good.

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I like it as long as they dont overdo it. MK8 taking 6 months per pack is a great timeframe IMO. And I like the tracks and characters.

For Smash more characters and stages, but because of balancing that takes longer. I agree that we should get new costumes for old characters instead of another Link with a Mii face.

And have those unlockable suits for Splatoon pls! We can use the respective amiibo.

@Gen0neD i play Ludwig just because i know it annoys people xD.

I want new characters for smash, but i would also like to trail them before i pay like £4 or whatever.

I'd like to see DLC for both, but too much DLC will hurt the next Mario Kart iteration.

As for Smash, well, I hate to say it but the more DLC it gets, the further the next Smash is pushed back. It's currently sitting at swansong status for the NX as it is. Release too much more DLC for Smash and I think the NX may not even get a new Smash Bros.

Mario Kart 8 all my yes. Smash?...Mmmmm.

Personally I'm not so concerned about Super Smash Bros DLC as though I love being crap at the game, I'm not personally too interested in purchasing DLC characters.

However, I would love 8 new tracks every 6 months for Mario Kart 8 especially if they took advantage of 200 cc. But I also don't want Nintendo to take away talents from other projects, such as Mario Kart 9 for the NX because I feel it needs to launch year 1 of the console to make maximum impact on sales. Launch would be ideal but I'm being somewhat realistic.

Considering Nintendo does certain franchises only once per platform generation I think that might be great thing to hook their players, as long as it has the volume and quality of the MK8 DLC. Mewto is way too expensive.

Cosmetic DLC is okay as its easy to give it a pass for whatever reasons.

I find the way they do everything to be completely backwards. MKW sold 30M+ units and the reward for fans was a sequel with slightly less content than MKW. Brawl sold less well than MKW and SSBU seems to be bigger than Brawl.

By now we should have every retro track available (preferably for free) and 32 new tracks before DLC gets a look in. Hopefully MKNX finally gives us the ultimate Mario Kart game.

I'm not complaining though, MK8 is excellent and the DLC is the best value you could hope for.

For Super Smash Bros. 4, I think two more DLC characters, a few new stages and some extra costumes would be fine. For Mario Kart 8, I felt Nintendo could still add more to it if they want. Still love to see more new and retro course be recreated with the HD treatment and free DLC like 200cc mode is awesome. I remember Mario Kart 64 had a mode where you race all the courses in reverse. That would be a great addition as DLC for Mario Kart 8 too if Ninty is looking to get more dollars out of us. Also how bout some true battle mode arenas as well, really starting to miss those lately.

I pretty much see this happening anyway, call me crazy. I'd love to see some Metroid-inspired tracks on MK8 and Samus as a playable character, and call me even crazier to think Fox McCloud, Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man may all make their way into MK8. And Nintendo is just teasing us with Captain Falcon's costume, among others, with Amiibo and the inclusion of two F-Zero tracks.

On a slightly related note, it seems like Nintendo will come out with F-Zero on NX, whatever it does turn out to be. Of course, this is all conjecture, but it could happen.

I've been loving the DLC for Mario Kart 8! I refuse to buy any cosmetic extras for Smash. Only stages and characters for me. Even then though, I don't really think Smash characters add much replayability, just diversity.

• For Smash Bros. 4, I would like hear more musics, play with more new characters, see more new stages!!
• For Mario Kart 8, I would like see more new tracks and play with more new characters!!

'That would pretty much be the best thing ever.'

The Mario Kart 8 DLC is DLC done right. Certainly the best value DLC in any Nintendo game, and probably the best value DLC in the industry. If they wanna put out more packs like the 2 we've seen so far, I'll keep buying 'em. And if they could give us a pack or 2 for MK7, I'd be all over that as well. (or maybe give us something similar to the challenges from MK DS... i'd pay $10 for that as an add on mode...)

The Smash Bros DLC, i'm not so keen on. I have no problems with Mewtoo as Club Nintendo bonus, but i wouldn't buy him. Lucas, i'd like to have him, but i won't pay what they're asking for a single character (yes I realize his pricing is in line with other games on other systems, still not paying it.) The costumes are silly, and i really hope they don't sell well. That kind of nickle and dime DLC has always bugged me. If they did a pack similar the MK packs with, say, 2 new characters, and some new stages, or 1 new character, some of the costumes, and some new stages, I'd pay $8- $10 for that...

I suppose, generally, I'd just much rather pay more for a package of meaningful DLC than the cheap cosmetic nickel and dime crap. The Luigi DLC for NSMBU was great too. Thats what I like, expansion packs, not a dumb hat for my character.

@rjejr "No new Wii U games in the US in April, June, July or August. DLC doesn't make up for that."

Might want to take April off of that amazingly accurate list. Affordable Space Adventures is new, and exclusive. It isn't "TRIPLE A!" but it's new, and high quality at that. I don't care about its sales potential, which you didn't mention when discussing what a "new game" is. While you're at it, remove June, too because Mutant Mudds Super Challenge is out in then, and we don't know about July or August yet, so you can't really include those. I'm sure you'll strawman my argument and act like I'm asserting those games will sell well, which if you read with your eyes rather than your emotion you'll see is not the case.

I LOVE the mk8 dlc.....every last bit. But they need to add battle arenas to complete the experience imo. I think you can have too much of a good thing so more tracks could be a problem in ways....
I don't play ssb but if I did I'd feel more could be done to add gameplay experiences not just consumes.

@retro_player_22 The reverse tracks are in MK8 (and 7). you have to get 3 stars on all the 150cc tracks to unlock them... just like always.

@Grumblevolcano
LMAO. What a noob I am. I always login there but immediately click on the my account or stars catalogue. It's on the second slide. Thanks a lot!

@daveh30 You don't need 3 stars, only a gold cup in all 8 on disc cups is required (same requirement for 200cc).

So far, none of the DLC felt justified. MK8 tracks lack in setup and characters are pointless, Smash DLC so far is overpriced costumes and characters I can't judge properly yet, so no.
Instead of overbloating their games with DLC, they should focus more on new games. DLC can't correct bad design choices, and that's what bothers me about both games. Such flaws can only be corrected in a new installment, and Nintendo REALLY needs to work on both games to make them more interesting across the board instead of scapegoating with online.

Mario Kart DLC has been done right, but you can only add so much to game...I'm not against more Mario Kart DLC but I feel there's little you can do to "innovate" at this point.
The Smash DLC is too expensive, but I'd be more keen to continual Smash DLC rather than Mario Kart. This is in part because I believe this will be the last great Smash Bros, but also because I really want King K. Rool. Problem is $5 for a fighter is too much...I can't justify buying all of them. But this is, as it seems, the only chance we have to get those lesser known/favored picks into Smash (Isaac, King K. Rool).

The MK8 DLC has been fantastic. The prices are justifiable too, because you're getting pretty much half a game (16 new tracks out, new characters and new vehicles).

The Smash DLC has been a lot ... less good. I admit it is partially because I don't think Smash is as good a game as MK (Mario Kart always > Smash), but also because ... so what? I don't care if a Mii character can dress like Sonic or Mega Man. New fighters are all well and good, but again, so what? Why not new stages?

All that being said, I like the idea behind it, but I'd rather them start on a new game, new idea, new IP. But if I had to pick one or the other, it would have to be the MK8 DLC. I couldn't care less about the Smash DLC, and it's also overpriced.

@daveh30 Thanks Dave, as you can tell I have being away from Mario Kart for quite a bit. Hadn't play a Maro Kart game in-deph since MK64. Mostly from Double Dash!! to Mario Kart 7 had been just party time game for me so returning to play Mario Kart 8 in-deph again, I never realize they're still there.

If all dlc was like Mario kart, at almost a fifth the price for a half a game of more content, I'd be happy. But with these new smash bros dlc costumes, and the free to play titles, it makes me worried that Nintendo might be a little less generous in the future.

People keep talking about giving Sakurai a break. Anyone ever thought he might be voluntarily doing this so he be done-done with game development afterwards?

I think Mario Kart 8 definitely has room to expand. They opened the floodgates when they added Link, Villager and Isabelle. For the longest time I've thought that Mario Kart would greatly benefit from the addition of other Nintendo franchises. How about adding Ness or Lucas and a Eagleland or Nowhere Islands track? Pit and Skyworld? Pokemon with a race around a given region in that world? The sky is the limit really. And it would make up for Mario Kart 8 having one of the worst starting rosters in the series' history (note that by "starting", I mean all non-DLC characters that shipped with the game).

As for Smash, I got a hunch that Mewtwo and Lucas are just a few pieces of DLC we're getting before the ballot closes. What with those Ryu and Roy rumors (not to mention the Dream Land stage from Smash 64), and the simple fact that the ballot closes in 5-6 months (and then they have to develop the characters, unless they somehow are planning to start developing characters before it ends). I figure either by the next Direct, or E3, we'll be getting more announcements.

I really don't see the problem with the Smash DLC, characters are huge undertakings (and are a huge part of the game compared to stages which 90% of them can be recreated in stage builder) and can take a long time to balance, the price for them is fair IMO as they still need to make a profit, the costumes, which IDC about, don't seem that overpriced either, buy the few you like for $3 and yeah. Seriously, in Canada, they cost less than a cheap chocolate bar, big deal.

MK8's DLC while I love it, I also hate it, the DLC itself is great and all, but it just felt like the first pack was trying to do too much and the course design suffered because of it, cause, let's be real, Excitebike was boring as crap, go forward -> U turn -> go forward -> U-turn -> repeat x3, and it wasn't crazy like Baby Park is either with items going everywhere.

Pikmin 3's DLC was really fun. Kinda wish Mario Party had done this by offering minigames, characters, and boards from the past Mario Party games (maybe even the rotating the joystick games with fixed controls).

Smash's DLC (including the new characters) aren't really providing a new challenge and are piecemeal, whereas the 2 MK8 DLC packs are essentially 50% more game challenges for 11 quid.

@DarthNocturnal I'd be surprised if the next Direct isn't E3 outside of maybe a Splatoon exclusive one in a few weeks.

@DarthNocturnal agreed, I'm expecting 4/5 characters by the time the ballot closes. i suspect these will probably some of the missing clones

@DarthNocturnal agreed, I'm expecting 4/5 characters by the time the ballot closes. i suspect these will probably some of the missing clones

DLC is a great way to work in Smash characters who didn't make the cut for the initial title. MK DLC is ideal for adding characters and vehicles not found in the Mario line.

No complaints about any of Nintendos DLC this gen (wii-u and 3ds).
Hyrule warrios, fire emblem awakening, mario golf, smash, kart 8 they've been perfect!
Amiibo is the sore spot of Nintendo this gen, so annoying.

@DarthNocturnal I'd have to agree.

With Sakurai making an appearance at a Fire Emblem concert for the series' 25th anniversary (why aren't we getting that Nintendo?), I think Roy is almost a surefire inclusion.

I could see this being the schedule:

Mewtwo - April
Lucas - June
Roy - August
Ryu - October (this is when the Fighter Ballot ends)
Wolf - December
Fighter Ballot Pick #1 - February/March/April 2016
Fighter Ballot Pick #2 (?) - June/July

I don't see them doing any more than 2 characters from the ballot, and even then I'm not sure we'll get more than 1.

I bought three of the Smash Bros. outfits, including Proto Man. I would much rather have had Proto Man as an alternate skin for Mega Man, though. I'd like to see alt costumes for regular characters offered as DLC before long.

I think the price of $0.75 per costume is fine; there's really no sense in complaining about that price. However, there should be a discount if you plan to buy all six, say, $4 for the pack instead of $6.

Put the first answer on all of the questions. Nintendo does DLC right!

@IceClimbers thats largely what i'm thinking, I do hope roy gets a visual overhaul like Ike. I always felt he looked a little too much like marth

@IceClimbers thats largely what i'm thinking, I do hope roy gets a visual overhaul like Ike. I always felt he looked a little too much like marth

@Dr_Corndog I was a bit disappointed there is no quantity discount with the costume packs, that was my big gripe with that piece of DLC. I still stand by my assertion it's a bit on the pricey side, the costume DLC, not the characters, those are reasonably priced.

I can't wait for Lucas! I've needed a main for a while! As for MK8, I really hope we get more DLC packs after pack 2. The first pack was great and got me playing my Wii U a lot more.

Mk8 nailed dlc. Smash bros not so much.

While I love the DLC for Mario Kart 8, I don't think I'd want it to continue much longer. I wouldn't be as excited for MK9 if I was still playing new levels in MK8. That said, another pack or two after this next one would be great. The levels in the first pack were amazing.

As for SSB, I don't really care about it's DLC very much. I might buy a particularly awesome, unique character like K. Rool or Banjo, but I won't be buying Lucas. If I hadn't gotten him for free, I probably wouldn't have gotten MewTwo. I might be interested in a level pack, but it would have to be pretty great, and fairly cheap. I have very little interest in the costumes.

Well we've never had more than one Mario Kart on a single console so I'd be totally up for continued dlc support.its not like we're getting a new one anytime soon.

With the Smash DLC costumes the professional designers probably knocked them together really quick and said 'So are we giving these away free alongside Mewtwo?'

The executives just laughed and walked away.

I think two more DLC packs for MK8, and that should be all, doubling the game content, anything more would be overwhelming.

for smash, I would be fine with 3-4 character DLC every year trough the next 3-4 years, then, no more.

Smash needs to focus on Stages, characters, and Modes. I really want a new smash run maze!!!

Most of the games I buy, I hardly ever touch.

I like to know that there's going to be new things waiting for me in the few games I spend any significant amount of time on.

It's not like they're gonna do MK9 or SSB5 on Wii U, it's always one entry per generation, so of course I want continued DLC! Although Smash Bros could learn a lot from how Mario Kart does it...

Too much DLC make me feel that I'm not getting all the full content, even though I am. New games are way more exciting than expensive Mii costumes.

@IceClimbers

I think I'm a bit mixed on pre-ballot DLC characters all being Brawl semi-clones.

Lucas is great, if only because he was one of my mains in Brawl, and because Mother/ Earthbound gets it's other rep back. Plus I get the feeling that this may tie into something bigger.

As for Wolf, I liked his playstyle, but I didn't really miss too much him in Smash 4. Maybe it's because of "LANDMASTER!".

As for the one Melee clone... eh. Ike is Roy's playstyle expanded and made unique. Perhaps if he was an alt costume for Marth, but that's the exact same train of thought I had for Lucina and, well... yeah.

And as for odd-man-out Ryu, I think he'd be an interesting addition. Everyone complaining about how SF V is PS4 and PC only has forgotten how Snake has barely been featured on Nintendo platforms (and I don't count the two NES games), and his then-upcoming game at Brawl's release was for the PS3 only. Ryu, at the very least, had a strong presence on the SNES during it's era.

I'd probably feel compelled to get all of them either way. Which is why I hope Roy is either changed, or an alt costume.

52% of you are part of the cancer that is killing console gaming; and exactly why Nintendo is moving into mobile, where DLC and free to play is the only way you can.

The Mario Kart DLC seems a little better value for money than Smash Bros. 16 extra tracks, 6 characters, 8 vehicles and the palette swaps for £11 isn't great, but it's not too bad. £3.59 for a single character is pretty horrendous, as is £5.52 for costumes that add no value to the game whatsoever.

I'm worried that by lapping up this DLC, we're just encouraging Nintendo's arbitrary pricing that doesn't reflect actual value (ie has no correlation to work done) – just like with 3DS home themes.

More MK8 DLC packs please! I simply can't get enough!

It's going to get old quick if they keep supporting the same game. Adding on some DLC is nice, but supporting a game with DLC the entire generation is just craziness.

I love the previously stated ideas of actual battle arenas in MK8 as DLC. Otherwise I'm looking forward to more levels, as well as the AC characters.

I've been indifferent to the Smash DLC thus far. Not interested enough in the characters, plus the costumes just don't do it for me.

The reason I'm down with DLC through the entire generation is that when the games were initially released, they were already packed with so much content. No one can deny that those games couldn't be labeled as "complete" without seeming a little bit entitled (though free to complain).

On top of that, these DLC content come out MONTHS down the road. Heck, the MK8 DLC2 is nearly an entire YEAR after MK8 initially released. We're not talking about Day-one/on-disk DLC. These are freakin' Expansion Packs.

On a side note: While the character prices might be a bit much for someone many might not even use, it's hardly worth complaining about costumed DLC because they're purely cosmetic (and not even that poorly priced to begin with).

Smash Bros really needs a proper Adventure Mode and MK lacks battle arenas. Make it DLC! (Classic Mode doesn't cut it.)

@IronMan28 - ""No new RETAIL Wii U games in the US in April, June, July or August. DLC doesn't make up for that."

I like my fix better than your fix, it's more accurate to my point.

Not that you're wrong, but if someone owns a Wii U but doesn't have broadband how do they buy Affordable Space Adventures?

@rjejr Easy, they take their Wii U to Starbucks or the library and use the wi-fi there to buy it

@IceClimbers They banned me from Starbucks for doing that. Now I have to use Costa instead.

Given these two games have been responsible for selling many systems by themselves, I think it would be foolish of Nintendo not to keep supporting them through the life of the Wii U. They have proven that Mario Kart certainly can be expanded and I doubt there's anyone who's spent serious time with that game that wouldn't buy more content for it if the quality is there, so why not?

Keep rolling out quality DLC for both MK8 and Smash U. I'm talking more karts, courses, stages, characters, etc. Nintendo keep GOING!!!

Hmmm well they can try all they want, but nothing will ever top the Megaman reveal in Smash. (Not that I can say much, i find Smash overatted and boring)
As for MK8....keep going until you give us Wario Stadium!

I'll eat up as much MK8 as Nintendo throw at me!!

I'd like to see a haunted track full of boo's like the original ones, suspended over a dark chasm... A chocolate track... A new version of Sunset Wilds, Waluigi Pinball, Firefield from F-Zero, a Pikmin track, and how cool might a Duck Hunt track be!? ... There's so much to draw from, I hope they keep it going!

Or how cool might a track based on the original Donkey Kong be? Racing around on multi level red steel girders with rolling barrels, pools of oil and fireballs as hazards?

Hopefully one day Mario Kart 8 will be the definitive version with all the previous iterations of tracks released as DLC and missing characters from the roster, same with Sm4sh, even if Ice Climbers can't work out due to Old 3DS tech, but having all of the stages, especially Saffron City from Smash 64 would make the game a mainstay in my library for many years to come.

edit Also, Arena battles for Mario Kart 8 and character specific 'Smash the Targets' and 'Board the Platforms' for Sm4sh, nuff' said.

I do think ongoing DLC for Mario Kart would really hurt the game, there's already enough there. Almost nobody realizes it but if ongoing DLC could really hurt Nintendo down the road whether if its for MK8 or Smash. And BTW, the Smash DLC not only sucks but is overpriced. Maybe 4 bucks for those costumes.

@rjejr
$12 a year is a bit different from $60 a year.

Sure why not? That way we won't have to have Mario Kart 9 / Super Smash 5 until next generation. This in my opinion is something that should have happened at Nintendo in the Wii / DS Era.

I'd love to see MK8 and Smash get supported until the Wii U's predecessor comes out. Mario Kart 8's DLC is brilliant; get a ton of new content divided between two packs for only $12. I definitely want to see pack 3 and 4 for MK8.

As for Smash, I still like the DLC plan for it, but they should follow more of MK8's DLC and do something like Lucas and another character or two, a few Mii costumes and a stage for X amount.

Still, both games have cool DLC and I'd be happy to see more DLC from both games.

For smash Id really like stages or a new adventure mode like the one in melee if sakurai is burned out let other people make it. I know it sounds harsh but zelda isn't made by its creator anymore (and there's a load of folk who want his hand picked apprentice to step aside),new talent can inject new energy into these franchises n let sakurai do something he's more content with.

Oh n Id gladly take some battle arenas for mk8

I like how the DLC is handled in Mario kart 8 since it seems like such good value for the extra tracks and characters and adds a great amount of content. I'm less keen on smash bros though since it seems a bit and doesn't add that much gameplay.

@crimsontadpoles

Yep. 100% agree on that. Smash Bros. DLC is WAY too reminiscent Ubisoft, EA, SE, Capcom etc. sleazy-style DLC tactics. It's overpriced, underwhelming, and doesn't add much (or anything) to gameplay. Even Skullgirls does characters better by making them free initially to reward people who already bought the game...instead of punishing us by making people purchase the 'meh' 3DS version (or pay $5). And it's just my opinion but Mewtwo and Lucas just feel so boring to me because they were already in previous games.

Mario Kart DLC is high quality, adds a ton to gameplay (new AND reworkd retro), and is VERY reasonably priced. TBH, not only should Nintendo stick to this DLC method, ALL gaming companies should aspire to it.

I'd like to keep getting characters for Smash, but I find the costumes for Mii Fighters a little weird. I'd pay if they made them available to be used on other characters as well, but Mii Fighters aren't even used online - they're not really used by anyone, are they?

lol Over 50% of the sample must play nothing but Smash Bros and MK8. Personally, I wouldn't mind as long as it doesn't get in the way. New characters for Smash Bros. are alright, but I think I'm settled for other DLC. (except for the Protoman custome which was awesome)

Did i hear more stages for SSB4? more stages?,great stages!?, maybe with some stage hazards? hell yeah!!

I definitely would. The more Mario Kart tracks and characters the better, especially if all the more obscure ones finally get to make a Mario Kart series debut.

And for Smash Bros... well, I'd love to see waves upon waves of character DLC. First we'd get veterans and K Rool and what not. Then we'd get slightly more obscure Nintendo characters. Then awesome third party characters. Then all the obscure Mario/Zelda/Pokemon/whatever characters everyone in those fandoms want...

Maybe I'll be lucky and they'll even get to a Wario themed DLC pack!

I have mad love for the MK8 team, but the Smash DLC remains to convince me. I hope more stages would come for Smash!

Both MK8 and Smash4 are brilliant products and they have solid super polished game engines. I see no reason to ditch them any time soon. Since all of the main ingredients are already in place, it's easy to add to them via DLC.

@Tate24 I don't buy a lot of DLC but have been very happy with what they did for MK 8. The Mortal Kombat micro transactions are crazy, that's just a cynical cash grab at its worst.

I love the MK8 DLC to death. It does put more pressure on Nintendo for innovation with Mario Kart 9 though.

All it was good until the "Club Nintendo part". So I mean asides for that it was all good until the CNP

@KryptoKrunch : The Wii U's predecessor is the Wii, silly.

Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. alike are series that should have embraced DLC as soon as the concept became mainstream, about time they did. Especially Smash Bros, considering how painful waiting for the next entry and the related character reveals is. I'm going as far as say SSB is pretty much born for DLC.

I think the price for a new character in Smash is a bit high, especially when compared to Mario Kart's dlc value. Two bucks sounds like a more appropriate price if you ask me.

No more costume packs!

I hate to say it, but if the DLC for smash is going to be like it is, I don't want it. It is expensive and just plain stupid. Seriously... Skins for a character you can even use online? What the hell? Yeah sure, the fighters will be cool but the skins kind just flood it all easier than a fighter. We are being set up to experience a horrible era for Nintendo i think... Nintendo has tasted DLC.... it's coming.

I don't have a wii u yet but the Mario Kart DLC looks great and the price is very good if you consider that the content of each dlc pack is a quarter of the main games content.

As for Smash Bros, I don't really like what they are doing with the costumes, they are relatively very overpriced.
I want to get lots of new characters for smash though (and the Ice Climbers)

@Haywired I totally agree with you. Adding some extra ideas after the fact is one thing, but trying to expand a title too much gets redundant. I would rather see a sequel with a fresh take on things. It's not about the money. I don't mind buying DLC.

So far the Mario Kart 8 DLC has been above and beyond the usual nickle-and-dime stuff Smash Bros gave us. Counting Kart tracks, the Mario Kart 8 DLC gives us 50% more game for a 20% price hike. That is good value, plus free-for-all 200cc mode!

@IceClimbers oh if Roy comes back gonna crie!

We don't need other fire emblem character!

Other generic character with sword!

Seriously am shocked at ssb community all hundreds unique characters out there and people want either clone characters eg. Wolf or bloodly Roy...

Seriously this is YOUR chance add some far more deserving characters in roster!

No more stupid clone characters.....

While know its not been confirmed yet I really hope that they get some more unique characters throw into mix.

There are 4 Characters that I want on Smash (listed by importance): 1. Bayonetta 2. King K. Rool 3. Shovel Knight 4. Inkling
We need innovative interesting Characters not Clones man..

@Tate24 But Roy is a character in a previous Smash, that's why people want him back. Imagine a Smash game where no characters from previous games are cut plus plenty of new characters present. This is what the SSB community wants SSB4 to be! (and outside of Snake this could be possible though I'm really confused about the Kojima situation so maybe Snake is also possible?)

Smash DLC is way overpriced currently, so I won't be buying any of it. £4.50 for a veteran, seriously? Get stuffed sakurai.

If mario kart releases more at the same price as the first double pack, I'll be there day 1 though.

@Grumblevolcano I understand that but he's still a clone and there's far more deserving characters that should be in smash. I'll never understand why need so many characters to represent one franchises while other franchises that are more popular than fire emblem get one character....it just doesn't seem fair..

I've been very happy with the DLC so far. Mario Kart has been handled brilliantly and I would love to see more of it. Hopefully if they do more they could include a Metroid or Xenoblade themed track as I think they have the potential to be amazing. The only thing I that is bugging me about the current Mario Kart DLC is all the F-Zero stuff, but that's only because I really want a new F-Zero.
As for Smash Bros. I'm all for new characters but I would like to see some more stages added to the game as I feel like it could do with a few more (surely bring back some more N64, Melee, and Brawl stages can't be too difficult?)

I hope they keep making DLC for Mario Kart 8 & Super Smash Bros. if they don't I will get tired of the games and probably stop playing them after a while.

Please give us some good battle arenas for MK8 more characters for MK8 more tracks for MK8 and more vehicles,tires and much more GLIDERS!!! and please make all characters igual just let the vehicle stats be different but character statts, Take them out so i dont see that f*** morton 11 times a race and i feel forced to use 1 of the heavies!
Just give us more updates/patches and keep doing dlc for mk8

And about smash, mmmm, i dont care

I feel like DLC could help for both games. New stages and fighters for SBBU and more tracks and drivers for MK8 would really help and make the playtime of both games longer since those DLC are only optional and not story supporting part like it was the case in ME2 or 3. I would support this.

For mk8 I say more, if they keep up the quality they offer now I think everybody will be happy with that.
With smash I'm not that happy, I whould like to see more stages different modes better online modes, some New fighters not old veterans (Lucas and mewto are cool but I want new stuff).
So if they chainge there way in smash I whould be happy if they continue with smash Dlc, but if they stay doing it like they are doing it now I don't know if interested in that.

@Dbwesz If the pattern with Tanooki Mario and Cat Peach continues with Dry Bowser (0.25 lighter but 0.25 more acceleration then I think a lot of those Morton players will become Dry Bowser players)

im more on the fence with these DLC some of it is good some of it is just bad and only the costumer can control that decision and if people keep buying those bad dlc then it will ruin everything :S

for me the MK8 is doing it better but i would rather see brand new tracks be added VS older ones but then again baby park track was one track that got me excited for dlc on that game as for Super smash not to much could care less about those extra mii costumes but it does give us a chance to add interesting characters that some fans have been asking for a while but then there is the price which isnt good :/ also them pushing amiibo this and that is annoying now -_-

a good update for MK8 would be to be able to make your own cup like for example if you wanted you could put all the rainbow road tracks and race it or race with your friends cuz i know not everyone likes all the tracks in one cup or is that just me? i like to be able to choose my favs and put them together

MK8's DLC has been amazing so far. I certainly wouldn't turn down another couple of DLC packs but at some point they'll need to wind it down, otherwise there'll be no hype for the next. The fact these games only come once per console is a huge part of their appeal, it makes them special. More amiibo costumes are always welcome though (seriously, you got all the third parties on board but not Game Freak for Pokemon suits? Also some Splatoon costumes would be amazing cross promotion!).

The Smash DLC? It feels pricey. All that same level of balancing and such needs to go into the tracks for MK too, of which you're getting 8 at a time! For one character it's a fairly big chunk of money, if they each came with a stage and a bunch of new trophies to unlock (other than the ones of said character obviously) it would certainly make the price easier to swallow. If Lucas comes with a remastered Fourside stage and another 30-40 trophies (even if a bunch are flat sprites) I'd happily pay full price. As it stands I'm probably not going to bother.

The costumes are extra fluff I don't much care either way about them. They do feel like they should be amiibo unlocks with the option of DLC for those who don't want amiibo, but it's cool for those who like Mii fighters

@NinjaWaddleDee I agree, and tracks on Mario Kart are probably the most important as far as extra playability goes. Characters don't bother me much as they are just a picture.

Mario Kart 8 I think has done DLC extremely well. As for Smash...characters and stages I'm okay with, but as for the costumes...eh. MAYBE I'll get a couple that really interest me, and when I have money to just throw around, but still...eh. And I'd be okay if there isn't any more Mario Kart 8 DLC. I'm not against more, but if there isn't anything else, I wouldn't be too upset. And then there's Smash...I'd rather they just do as much as they feel they should do and then stop (I'm honestly surprised we're getting more Smash Bros. dlc at all.).

@Grumblevolcano no that will not be!
Why... Since 2.0 acc. Is igual to 2.75 nobody cares about the 0.25!
Heaving more weight is more important cause of bumping
So it doesnt matter or you have 2.0 acc 2.25, 2,50 or 2,75 its all the same the first noticeable difference at acc. Is first at 3.0

Since bumping is a bigger issue people care more on MORE weight with just an 2.0 acc

I don't have the games, but even if I did, I wouldn't get the DLC. I'd rather just pay for the whole package and be done with it; the only items in recent memory for which I've made an exception were massive discounts on Civilization 5 DLC a while back. This doesn't affect me.

Still prefer Project M's style of "DLC", though- they're optional patches, no money needed; they're a reward for buying the original product.

@R_Champ Mewtwo and Lucas don't have to be boring clones of their predecessors, Nintendo just doesn't want to go the extra mile by significantly differentiating them from their counterparts, as the Project M team did the work for. It takes less work to nickel and dime people over nothing, than to continually re-balance a freely available community project.

@Haywired I'm the same way. In with the games! Out with the DLC! This isn't Nintendo, this is madness! THIS IS MICROSOFT! kicks a rock

The only thing I worry about with all this DLC especially with Mario Kart is what do they do with the next one? If they add too many characters and/or run out of ideas it will have a negative impact on the next instalment. Also a lot of people now will be expecting Link to be playable from the off in the next one and if he's not and get introduced as DLC again well that will leave a bad taste in the mouth. So I think it's a good idea and they're doing a good job but just worry that they might end up putting too much stuff in this game and not saving anything for the next!

Keep the DLC coming because:

Sorry for posting such an old meme, but it's very true in regards to the DLC. Once the DLC starts showing signs of not generating as much hype is when Nintendo should stop. Also battle arena DLC would be a much better option for the next two MK8 DLC Packs.

Crap. Voted for the wrong thing on the last one. Mario Kart 8's DLC is awesome, but the costumes in Smash are the worst type of DLC. Just give us stages, items, or most importantly, characters.

I guess there are people (like children who think they want ice cream all the time without realizing the consequences) for whom enough is never enough and for some reason no amount of content could ever satisfy them, but I've discovered this amazing thing called "other games to play" so it doesn't bother me so much.

I don't see much difference between wanting Mario Kart 9 and wanting more content for MK8. Its still more content either way. However, Mario Kart 9 will appear on the successor to the 3DS (not the recent upgrade) and Mario Kart 10 would appear on the Wii U successor. So those wanting to keep playing new content on console would have to wait until Mario Kart 10. Thats too far away.

If your analogy made sense, you're basically punishing a child for wanting an ice cream twice a year (two DLC packs a year) and instead saying that they should wait another five years for ice cream (the next console).

As long as we're not [forced into] paying $15 for a skin (Riot) or $3 for 3000 coins, Nintendo and other companies can keep the DLC coming.

I'll buy DLC if it adds more content to an already fantastic--and complete--game. I won't buy DLC if therest of the game was literally chopped up to be sold as DLC.

I want full games at launch, not paid DLC costumes. MK8 did DLC well I guess, but the pricing for Smash costumes is horrible.

Adventure mode DLC anyone? Please?