@MajinSoul
"30 fps is not unplayable although some people think it is"
If 30 fps is not playable now, why was it playable before?
@liveswired
Um... yes, a lot of those games were 60 fps. I don't exactly know why you are getting mad at me as I was just pointing that out because someone said it isn't the 90s. lol
You do realize that many of the NES and SNES games were 60 FPS right?
@BlatantlyHeroic
It is harder to tell if you don't have anything to reference is but if you look for it, yeah, it is quite noticable. Even more so if you go back and forth between 30 FPS and 60 FPS
@rjejr Even more so in Canada. In the US, the game + Amiibo is the price of a full retail game where in Canada, the game alone if the price of a full retail game of $70 and the Game + Amiibo is $80.
@Tisteg80 Lego City basically filled up a Wii U if downloaded... that game was a game just outside of the launch window. People who wanted to download needed an external the day the Wii U came out.
If hey give a decent harddrive in the next console, they'll probably see even better numbers. Not many people want to pay and extra $50-$100 for a bigger drive... even more so when they could buy the others systems for that price with the better space and the support.
Pokemon Go is one of the reasons why I got a smart phone.
@Shikinouta
It's actually very easy, I didn't have a phone up until November of 2015. I used a lan-line for my phone. I don't own a car so I would never need one for car emergencies and if I was anywhere, I had internet there with a computer or I just didn't need the internet. Really, the only thing a smart phone does is give you slightly more convince and makes it easier for other people to get in your way.
@Zebetite Stock issues have only mostly vanished for the recent waves, not the first few. And yes, Scalpers still exist. Sure, it is not like $80+ like it once was but it is still more than what you pay normally.
This is something that has baffled me about the First Nations here in NA. People dress up as natives, do native themed events or including them in stuff, they are offending their culture so they get angry. No one wears native stuff, no themed native events and native stuff removed and change to not offend them, they get offended saying we are not including them enough. Really, it is a n lose lose situation. If they include stuff, the media or people blow it up, if they don't, then the media or people blow it up. It's no wonder we are so messed up here.
@JohnnyC I'd love that, I remember when the animal crossing plaza came out and I thought it was going to be a theme but it wasn't, I was disappointed but then i thought, maybe it is a sign of it coming but nope... I've stopped really expecting or hoping for themes because they are probably never going to come to the Wii U.
@Mogster i wish they'd open more stores in general. At least you guys have an online store where North America doesn't. Well, they got Ebay but again that is US only.
@kenrulei Final Fantasy is different though. In Final Fantasy, it is different stories, different worlds and it is more in depth for the story. Most of all, it is different characters mean that it is new characters where people don't already have a set mindset or even know who they are.. Even then, take a look at the Final Fantasy games now, you never feel as connected to the characters anymore. Think back to what people say are the best ones. The ones where your imagination played out, you read the text, named your characters and so forth. How many people do you hear say that 12, 13, or even 10 are the best ones compared to IX, VIII, VII, VI, etc. Final Fantasy 10 was the last game where you could name your characters and it was only one, Tidus and it kind of make it awkward as you never hear anyone say his name.
Waits for it to be announced as paid DLC and then the uproar.
@allav866
What doesn't make people smell direct? It's January, must be a direct soon. The month is almost over, must be a direct soon. Not much in this weeks downloads, must be a direct soon. Not much information about a game, must be a direct soon. Maintenance, must be a direct soon. Random game announcement, must be a direct soon. Random game content announced, must be a direct soon. See my point? It amazes me that people still expect directs as much as they do and they only set themselves up for disappointment.
@Mr_Action
it's more the fact that they need to own the amiibo to unlock the content. Depending on the amiibo, they can be limited quantity making it so you will never get it or have a horrible experience with trying to get it. With this game, it has the problem where you have one of the 3 amiibo only available in the 3 pack. Not everyone bought the 3 pack, people such as myself so if i was to get all the content of the game, I am looking at buying the squid amiibo at a higher from a random dude price simply because I cannot get it separately from Nintendo. At the same time, it is also a form on one disc DLC, meaning that content was created in the game and then removed from the consumer to only be access through the purchase of another product. On Disc DLC is seen as a big no-no in the gaming industry because it literally means that the developer removed created content that was done during the development of the game and instead of buying the full game upon release, you're only buying a piece of it.
The other thing with Amiibo as DLC, some people just want the content, content that would normally cost a couple of dollars like skins are now $15. Mind you, you can often use the amiibo for other games but you are still buying a hunk of plastic... which can break meaning you could lose the content as well.
I don't know why people are expecting the NX to be a handheld when it has been referenced on many occasions by Nintendo that it is a home console.
@Vandy The XboxOne and PS4, though their current line-up is questionable at the moment, they have two big things the Wii U doesn't have. One is support from other developers and two is the hardware capabilities to handle the games being released for the next 5-8 years, if not more. That is where a lot of the incentive for people to buy those consoles over the Wii U come from. The Wii U in general just isn't developer friendly for this generation because of it's limitations and gimmicky hardware. The other thing about those systems, is though they also have those "rehashes," they also have a wide variety of types of games to play where Nintendo, is a bit more limited. For example, there isn't much for racing except for well... Mario Kart and then recently, Neo Fast racing. Need for speed in there I guess but there is a lot less and your choices are limited. Same with sports, shooters, jRPGs (though, this one is only starting to grow now), etc., it is just the other two consoles offer much more choice when it comes to choosing the games you want now and up coming. Also, keep in mind that I am mostly talking about home consoles here.
@amiiboacid There has been several references from Nintendo employees (including Reggie) and Nintendo and 3rd party developers that the NX is a home console.
@LetsGoChamp That's even if Zelda U doesn't pull a TP. We are looking at a game that was announced well before Star Fox with less information know on a year when the Wii U is looking pretty dead with nothing but delayed titles (except pokemon) and remakes.
@rjejr Mewtwo was only free if you paid an extra $45(CAD). Besides, didn't the direct talk about how you get the content by link the game or something?
@faint I don't remember disagreeing with you that would would not run like crap, I remember saying they'd probably do something to optimize it for it to run a little smoother but I did agree with you that the performance would be less... I just didn't expect it to be this bad to the point where you would be forced to buy the upgraded system.
In the end though, even if they do this all the time, it doesn't make it a smart decision and from the looks of it, it will really show with this.
@faint Regardless of who's decision it is. It is still a very stupid thing to do, force people to buy a poorly running game on their system to get some content. It could have been done much better. Personally, I am hoping for it to flop a bit because a flop, will kind of show the developers that they need to do better.
@Hinaru77
Well, it can do that but it can also force the developer to actually listen to what fans are wanting instead of giving them the middle finger and doing whatever they want. Even more so, if it did badly on Nintendo in Japan, it'll probably do the similar on other systems there as well. Developer's need to remember that it is their consumers that keep them employed.
Oh.. and the game did flop in Japan... it flopped big time, just so you know.
I am going to guess that someone typed in "Shovel" in the search or something related because I don't see anything about the department they searched in.
Yeah, that's why they are removing parts of sexualized content, dumbing down homo sexuality stuff, etc.
As for buying the game, why should it matter for how many people would still buy it? The fact more remains that everyone would have bought it that was going to buy and they all would have been happy if the stuff was still in there however, with the censorship, some people may not buy it/ will be more disappointed with the removal on content. That is a dangerous way of thinking when it comes to it. "Oh, lets not have this product like this. Oh, but people will not buy it or be un happy. That's ok, that half will be." Like come on, Why purposely split an audience? That's just stupid. You are arguing that only one side should be happy and the other should be disappointed when really, both can be happy which is where I asked you how that makes us "entitled" because... really, calling us entitle for wanting the same... It's just stupid. lol The word entitled is far too much overused by apologists. There is nothing wrong and nothing entitled to wanting to have the same treatment as others when there is no reason to not have the same treatment. If you think there is, then it is a delusion in your head that you need get out of there.
Now, as for removing content, me thinking it lessens the quality of the product... well, in a way, it kind of does. Though it doesn't directly lessen the quality, it does lessen the product as you're taking a finished product and removing things (there is more than this minigame that has been removed btw). There is nothing really being added, stuff only being removed so you are getting a product with less for the same price.
@amiiboacid The problem with that is then the Wii U content becomes a $50 DLC. I for one would love the new content however I cannot justify spending $50 for a game I already own on the WIi U that runs like a piece of garbage and I don't want.
@IAmDeclanJay
Yup, the Xbox One is doing that badly. It's launch week was like 25k and then it just crashed. I think Microsoft was expecting it to do a lot better and to replace the poor Xbox 360 sales but it basically just took over what the 360 sales were.
@Of_Folsense There is a massive flaw in your argument here:
"Like I mentioned above, the fans who want to buy this game haven't even paid for it yet, but many are absolutely outraged at the removal. Doesn't that seem odd? And it happens all the time. The people who own the game made the removal, and THEY are perfectly entitled to."
You are forgetting something. Nintendo is a business; those "entitled" fans that are outraged are the ones that are keeping Nintendo in Business. Yeah, sure, they are entitled to do whatever they want with their game but at the same time, if they keep doing stuff to outrage the fans, and then they (or some) will be out of a job.
Now, for this "unneeded" thing that is in the game to appeal to the more "general" audience, tell me something, would you have bought this game if they left everything in it? Most probably, even more so, many people probably would not have known of these until they already bought the game because if this was never done, it probably would not have been advertised as much. But overall, I cannot see someone who was planning on getting the game to say "Hey, this minigame that is option will make me not get the game." It is not like the game is rated for children and I'd hope the people playing it are at the maturity to contain themselves but I guess that isn't the case. But removal of features/content, that is more likely to get less people to buy the game. Really, it Nintendo wanted to censor it, they should have done it before it was released to anyone instead of make this one version with all this stuff, to then remove it.
Now... as for this "entitled" talk you speak of... What makes you say we feel entitled? Because it is actually funny... and kind of pathetic when you really think about it. If you want to take a look at what entitlement really means then well, it means that one believes to be more deserving or they should get special treatment... Now, where your logic on the entitlement here falters here is we are asking... for the same as what another region got. Now... how is that entitlement? We are not asking to get more, we are not thinking we are better to deserve more but yet, we want the same as what the other regions got and that we want them to stop removing the content which is said to be optional meaning that, both sides can be happy with the content in there. Really, wouldn't it be the other way that you are the entitled one because you feel that only you should be the one happy here? That you are the one on the side that doesn't get the shaft? So tell me again, who is really entitled here? I'll assure you, we, the ones asking for a stop to censorship are not the entitled ones. I think you are confusing criticism/ genuine disappointment with entitlement.
@IceClimbers LOL What? I bought my PS3 last Christmas. In fact, this week probably marks my 5th week owning one? Christmas was a piece of garbage for Nintendo and so I finally had the money to buy Sony products which was a PS3 and a slew of PS3 games because all my money usually goes to Nintendo from the fall to Christmas. But I only bought one Nintendo game... Xenoblade... that's it. I havn't even talked that much, just more that Sony offered me more than what Nintendo did this year sand so all my money pretty much went to Soony... for the first time ever. Sony apologist? Lol, I think you have me confused with someone else. Either that, If I am the biggest "apologist" here for Sony, then everyone on this site must hate Sony with a passion.
As for why I choose apologist? Simple, Every god damn time Nintendo removes, censors, does something controversial, the same people are always here praising them and making shallow excuses for them even though their "optional" stuff, doesn't mean they have to use it if it is there. If Nintendo left it in, they'd be happy because what they want is there and the ones that want the stuff would be happy because everything is there. Both sides are happy. The way the apologists have it and talk, one side gets the shaft. This is what apologists never seem to understand and why they are inferior minded.
@Octane ok, it is still dumb how they let it on the system when it can only be used with this game. In the end, Nintendo is still getting money off of it.
Nintendo is very stupid when it comes to controllers it seems, the sad part is fans eat it up. Maybe not so much this controller because it isn't the gamecube controller but overall, they are just dumb to slurp up a controller for a single game only.
Looks fun but... since Mario Maker has come out, I have not really felt the need to touch another Mario game... Maybe I'll find people who recreated the levels in Mario Maker. ha ha
for my post. the first part is about the whole same sex and Nintendo seeming to feel the need to censor or downplay same sex relationships such as they did in this game... The second part... was more in general how anything sexual related, Nintendo tends to downplay it in the west to make it more "appropriate" when really, it doesn't need to be.
With the same sex thing, Nintendo really shouldn't be downplaying any of it to "make it more appropriate" considering how it goes against the path of society. Nintendo is still looking at the west from the past and they need to get with the times. It is good that Nintendo did leave it in there a little... though they still played it down compared to what it was and they need to stop doing that all together, stop with these "baby steps" to test the water and take a look at the west as of today.
Ok, I am sorry but to make it more appropriate? The US recently went though the massive Supreme Court ruling making it so States could not make same sex marriages illegal and such pretty much legalizing it everywhere and acceptable in the United States.
This is nothing more than Nintendo being oblivious to the Western world and making unneeded censoring.
Even more so, not sure about the US but in Canada, In school we were exposed to sexual themes as of grade 2 and I was 7, turning 8 in that grade. By grade 4, so 9-10, we basically learned everything. Here is a game where it really doesn't go into much depth at all on the subject matter that is rated teen and they go, yet again censoring it. Nintendo needs to get with the times.
@ricklongo So... by your logic, as long as there looks to be a lot of stuff, it is alright to not get a full game upon purchase for all Nintendo games even though some of the features that are there would normally be included in the games and that you'd need to spend at least a minimum of $16 (Canadian price, not sure what the Brazil price is), on top of the already $70 to get the full content of game modes, mini-games, full game use, etc..
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Re: Video: See the Very First Wii U & 3DS Game to Use Every Single amiibo
Can't Mario Party 10 technically use all the amiibo?
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Tackles the Native Resolution and Framerate in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
@MajinSoul
"30 fps is not unplayable although some people think it is"
If 30 fps is not playable now, why was it playable before?
@liveswired
Um... yes, a lot of those games were 60 fps. I don't exactly know why you are getting mad at me as I was just pointing that out because someone said it isn't the 90s. lol
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Tackles the Native Resolution and Framerate in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
@Ventilator
You do realize that many of the NES and SNES games were 60 FPS right?
@BlatantlyHeroic
It is harder to tell if you don't have anything to reference is but if you look for it, yeah, it is quite noticable. Even more so if you go back and forth between 30 FPS and 60 FPS
Re: Video: See How Far The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess has Come Since the Wii & GameCube
@rjejr Even more so in Canada. In the US, the game + Amiibo is the price of a full retail game where in Canada, the game alone if the price of a full retail game of $70 and the Game + Amiibo is $80.
Re: Nintendo Download: 4th February (North America)
Nothing.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Has Plans to Localise Mother 3 This Year
Well.. Iwata is dead so... anything is possible with this new guy but still not going to take this seriously.
Re: Quality Of Life Device Not Fit To Be Sold As "A Nintendo Product" At The Moment, Says Kimishima
They are still working on this? I figured they'd abandon it by now.
Re: Download Sales Continue to Increase to New Highs for Nintendo
@Tisteg80 Lego City basically filled up a Wii U if downloaded... that game was a game just outside of the launch window. People who wanted to download needed an external the day the Wii U came out.
Re: Download Sales Continue to Increase to New Highs for Nintendo
If hey give a decent harddrive in the next console, they'll probably see even better numbers. Not many people want to pay and extra $50-$100 for a bigger drive... even more so when they could buy the others systems for that price with the better space and the support.
Re: Pokémon Go Showcase Session Confirmed for GDC in March
Pokemon Go is one of the reasons why I got a smart phone.
@Shikinouta
It's actually very easy, I didn't have a phone up until November of 2015. I used a lan-line for my phone. I don't own a car so I would never need one for car emergencies and if I was anywhere, I had internet there with a computer or I just didn't need the internet. Really, the only thing a smart phone does is give you slightly more convince and makes it easier for other people to get in your way.
Re: Nintendo Is "Looking At" Virtual Reality, But Don't Expect Details Any Time Soon
Nintendo should just jump to holodecks.
Re: Nintendo Profits Dip as amiibo Hits Over 40 Million Sales in Nine Months
@Zebetite Stock issues have only mostly vanished for the recent waves, not the first few. And yes, Scalpers still exist. Sure, it is not like $80+ like it once was but it is still more than what you pay normally.
Re: The Legend of Zelda for Wii U Gets Its 2016 Release Window Back, as Project Guard Slips to 'TBC'
@crazyj2312 for me, only if the NX doesn't look to be a bust. lol
Re: Bravely Second "Tomahawk" Costume Change Confirmed For The West
This is something that has baffled me about the First Nations here in NA. People dress up as natives, do native themed events or including them in stuff, they are offending their culture so they get angry. No one wears native stuff, no themed native events and native stuff removed and change to not offend them, they get offended saying we are not including them enough. Really, it is a n lose lose situation. If they include stuff, the media or people blow it up, if they don't, then the media or people blow it up. It's no wonder we are so messed up here.
Re: Create Your Own Super Mario Maker Wallpaper Through This Official Website
@JohnnyC I'd love that, I remember when the animal crossing plaza came out and I thought it was going to be a theme but it wasn't, I was disappointed but then i thought, maybe it is a sign of it coming but nope... I've stopped really expecting or hoping for themes because they are probably never going to come to the Wii U.
Re: Opening Details for the Remodelled Nintendo NY Store are Confirmed
@Mogster i wish they'd open more stores in general. At least you guys have an online store where North America doesn't. Well, they got Ebay but again that is US only.
Re: Nintendo Download: 4th February (Europe)
@Splatburst Wow, you guys definitely get it better than in NA. We got the first 3, then nothing.
Re: Eiji Aonuma on the Idea of Giving Link a Voice
@kenrulei Final Fantasy is different though. In Final Fantasy, it is different stories, different worlds and it is more in depth for the story. Most of all, it is different characters mean that it is new characters where people don't already have a set mindset or even know who they are.. Even then, take a look at the Final Fantasy games now, you never feel as connected to the characters anymore. Think back to what people say are the best ones. The ones where your imagination played out, you read the text, named your characters and so forth. How many people do you hear say that 12, 13, or even 10 are the best ones compared to IX, VIII, VII, VI, etc. Final Fantasy 10 was the last game where you could name your characters and it was only one, Tidus and it kind of make it awkward as you never hear anyone say his name.
Re: Splatoon Producer Hints at More Content Being Added in the Future
Waits for it to be announced as paid DLC and then the uproar.
@allav866
What doesn't make people smell direct? It's January, must be a direct soon. The month is almost over, must be a direct soon. Not much in this weeks downloads, must be a direct soon. Not much information about a game, must be a direct soon. Maintenance, must be a direct soon. Random game announcement, must be a direct soon. Random game content announced, must be a direct soon. See my point? It amazes me that people still expect directs as much as they do and they only set themselves up for disappointment.
@Mr_Action
it's more the fact that they need to own the amiibo to unlock the content. Depending on the amiibo, they can be limited quantity making it so you will never get it or have a horrible experience with trying to get it. With this game, it has the problem where you have one of the 3 amiibo only available in the 3 pack. Not everyone bought the 3 pack, people such as myself so if i was to get all the content of the game, I am looking at buying the squid amiibo at a higher from a random dude price simply because I cannot get it separately from Nintendo. At the same time, it is also a form on one disc DLC, meaning that content was created in the game and then removed from the consumer to only be access through the purchase of another product. On Disc DLC is seen as a big no-no in the gaming industry because it literally means that the developer removed created content that was done during the development of the game and instead of buying the full game upon release, you're only buying a piece of it.
The other thing with Amiibo as DLC, some people just want the content, content that would normally cost a couple of dollars like skins are now $15. Mind you, you can often use the amiibo for other games but you are still buying a hunk of plastic... which can break meaning you could lose the content as well.
Re: Nintendo Download: 4th February (Europe)
@Splatburst When have they done discounts on the Wii games that was after the initial release? This should be expected.
Re: Wii Street U Service Being Discontinued In March, Leaving eShop This Month
@Captain_Gonru hmm, I guess you could use it for that. I just used google really as it was so much easier to use and much faster.
Re: Poll: Which Nintendo Franchises Do You Most Want to See With the NX Launch?
Why is no 3D Donkey Kong on the list?
Re: Wii Street U Service Being Discontinued In March, Leaving eShop This Month
Did anyone actually actively use this? I used it once... to see what it was and then removed it.
Re: Macronix Will Be Providing Memory Products for the NX
@syrilram Pretty sure it also kind of came up at E3 as well.
Re: Rumour: Super Smash Bros. Planned as NX Launch Title, Bandai Namco Working on "Several" Games
I don't know why people are expecting the NX to be a handheld when it has been referenced on many occasions by Nintendo that it is a home console.
@Vandy The XboxOne and PS4, though their current line-up is questionable at the moment, they have two big things the Wii U doesn't have. One is support from other developers and two is the hardware capabilities to handle the games being released for the next 5-8 years, if not more. That is where a lot of the incentive for people to buy those consoles over the Wii U come from. The Wii U in general just isn't developer friendly for this generation because of it's limitations and gimmicky hardware. The other thing about those systems, is though they also have those "rehashes," they also have a wide variety of types of games to play where Nintendo, is a bit more limited. For example, there isn't much for racing except for well... Mario Kart and then recently, Neo Fast racing. Need for speed in there I guess but there is a lot less and your choices are limited. Same with sports, shooters, jRPGs (though, this one is only starting to grow now), etc., it is just the other two consoles offer much more choice when it comes to choosing the games you want now and up coming. Also, keep in mind that I am mostly talking about home consoles here.
Re: Macronix Will Be Providing Memory Products for the NX
@amiiboacid There has been several references from Nintendo employees (including Reggie) and Nintendo and 3rd party developers that the NX is a home console.
Re: Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Pegged for North American Release on 28th January
Good, I was worried that NA would not see this for months. This will be probably the first VC title I will have bought in a while.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Secures Third Place in Japanese Charts, With Sales Below Wii U Predecessor
@rjejr I'd hope not... considering how the other 4 packs are still like $20ish.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Secures Third Place in Japanese Charts, With Sales Below Wii U Predecessor
@rjejr Yeah, I know they made Mewtwo buyable separate and I do hope they do it with this.
Re: Extended Super Mario Maker Network Maintenance to Fix Create Mode 'Bug'
@LetsGoChamp That's even if Zelda U doesn't pull a TP. We are looking at a game that was announced well before Star Fox with less information know on a year when the Wii U is looking pretty dead with nothing but delayed titles (except pokemon) and remakes.
Re: Extended Super Mario Maker Network Maintenance to Fix Create Mode 'Bug'
No direct is coming, there I said it. Just like every other maintenance, it does not mean a direct is coming.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Secures Third Place in Japanese Charts, With Sales Below Wii U Predecessor
@rjejr Mewtwo was only free if you paid an extra $45(CAD). Besides, didn't the direct talk about how you get the content by link the game or something?
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Secures Third Place in Japanese Charts, With Sales Below Wii U Predecessor
@faint I don't remember disagreeing with you that would would not run like crap, I remember saying they'd probably do something to optimize it for it to run a little smoother but I did agree with you that the performance would be less... I just didn't expect it to be this bad to the point where you would be forced to buy the upgraded system.
In the end though, even if they do this all the time, it doesn't make it a smart decision and from the looks of it, it will really show with this.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Secures Third Place in Japanese Charts, With Sales Below Wii U Predecessor
@faint Regardless of who's decision it is. It is still a very stupid thing to do, force people to buy a poorly running game on their system to get some content. It could have been done much better. Personally, I am hoping for it to flop a bit because a flop, will kind of show the developers that they need to do better.
@Hinaru77
Well, it can do that but it can also force the developer to actually listen to what fans are wanting instead of giving them the middle finger and doing whatever they want. Even more so, if it did badly on Nintendo in Japan, it'll probably do the similar on other systems there as well. Developer's need to remember that it is their consumers that keep them employed.
Oh.. and the game did flop in Japan... it flopped big time, just so you know.
Re: Random: Someone At Walmart Took Shovel Knight's Name A Little Too Literally
I am going to guess that someone typed in "Shovel" in the search or something related because I don't see anything about the department they searched in.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Removes 'Petting' Feature in Western Localisation
@Of_Folsense "This isn't really censorship"
Yeah, that's why they are removing parts of sexualized content, dumbing down homo sexuality stuff, etc.
As for buying the game, why should it matter for how many people would still buy it? The fact more remains that everyone would have bought it that was going to buy and they all would have been happy if the stuff was still in there however, with the censorship, some people may not buy it/ will be more disappointed with the removal on content. That is a dangerous way of thinking when it comes to it. "Oh, lets not have this product like this. Oh, but people will not buy it or be un happy. That's ok, that half will be." Like come on, Why purposely split an audience? That's just stupid. You are arguing that only one side should be happy and the other should be disappointed when really, both can be happy which is where I asked you how that makes us "entitled" because... really, calling us entitle for wanting the same... It's just stupid. lol The word entitled is far too much overused by apologists. There is nothing wrong and nothing entitled to wanting to have the same treatment as others when there is no reason to not have the same treatment. If you think there is, then it is a delusion in your head that you need get out of there.
Now, as for removing content, me thinking it lessens the quality of the product... well, in a way, it kind of does. Though it doesn't directly lessen the quality, it does lessen the product as you're taking a finished product and removing things (there is more than this minigame that has been removed btw). There is nothing really being added, stuff only being removed so you are getting a product with less for the same price.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Secures Third Place in Japanese Charts, With Sales Below Wii U Predecessor
@amiiboacid The problem with that is then the Wii U content becomes a $50 DLC. I for one would love the new content however I cannot justify spending $50 for a game I already own on the WIi U that runs like a piece of garbage and I don't want.
@IAmDeclanJay
Yup, the Xbox One is doing that badly. It's launch week was like 25k and then it just crashed. I think Microsoft was expecting it to do a lot better and to replace the poor Xbox 360 sales but it basically just took over what the 360 sales were.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Removes 'Petting' Feature in Western Localisation
@Of_Folsense There is a massive flaw in your argument here:
"Like I mentioned above, the fans who want to buy this game haven't even paid for it yet, but many are absolutely outraged at the removal. Doesn't that seem odd? And it happens all the time. The people who own the game made the removal, and THEY are perfectly entitled to."
You are forgetting something. Nintendo is a business; those "entitled" fans that are outraged are the ones that are keeping Nintendo in Business. Yeah, sure, they are entitled to do whatever they want with their game but at the same time, if they keep doing stuff to outrage the fans, and then they (or some) will be out of a job.
Now, for this "unneeded" thing that is in the game to appeal to the more "general" audience, tell me something, would you have bought this game if they left everything in it? Most probably, even more so, many people probably would not have known of these until they already bought the game because if this was never done, it probably would not have been advertised as much. But overall, I cannot see someone who was planning on getting the game to say "Hey, this minigame that is option will make me not get the game." It is not like the game is rated for children and I'd hope the people playing it are at the maturity to contain themselves but I guess that isn't the case. But removal of features/content, that is more likely to get less people to buy the game. Really, it Nintendo wanted to censor it, they should have done it before it was released to anyone instead of make this one version with all this stuff, to then remove it.
Now... as for this "entitled" talk you speak of... What makes you say we feel entitled? Because it is actually funny... and kind of pathetic when you really think about it. If you want to take a look at what entitlement really means then well, it means that one believes to be more deserving or they should get special treatment... Now, where your logic on the entitlement here falters here is we are asking... for the same as what another region got. Now... how is that entitlement? We are not asking to get more, we are not thinking we are better to deserve more but yet, we want the same as what the other regions got and that we want them to stop removing the content which is said to be optional meaning that, both sides can be happy with the content in there. Really, wouldn't it be the other way that you are the entitled one because you feel that only you should be the one happy here? That you are the one on the side that doesn't get the shaft? So tell me again, who is really entitled here? I'll assure you, we, the ones asking for a stop to censorship are not the entitled ones. I think you are confusing criticism/ genuine disappointment with entitlement.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Removes 'Petting' Feature in Western Localisation
@IceClimbers LOL What? I bought my PS3 last Christmas. In fact, this week probably marks my 5th week owning one? Christmas was a piece of garbage for Nintendo and so I finally had the money to buy Sony products which was a PS3 and a slew of PS3 games because all my money usually goes to Nintendo from the fall to Christmas. But I only bought one Nintendo game... Xenoblade... that's it. I havn't even talked that much, just more that Sony offered me more than what Nintendo did this year sand so all my money pretty much went to Soony... for the first time ever. Sony apologist? Lol, I think you have me confused with someone else. Either that, If I am the biggest "apologist" here for Sony, then everyone on this site must hate Sony with a passion.
As for why I choose apologist? Simple, Every god damn time Nintendo removes, censors, does something controversial, the same people are always here praising them and making shallow excuses for them even though their "optional" stuff, doesn't mean they have to use it if it is there. If Nintendo left it in, they'd be happy because what they want is there and the ones that want the stuff would be happy because everything is there. Both sides are happy. The way the apologists have it and talk, one side gets the shaft. This is what apologists never seem to understand and why they are inferior minded.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Removes 'Petting' Feature in Western Localisation
@EllenJMiller
Pretty much this, Stuff just keeps getting removed and apologists just keep defending it. A terrible plague is affecting this generation badly.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Removes 'Petting' Feature in Western Localisation
People who support censorship on non children games are one of the big problems in the video game industry.
Re: UK Pre-Orders Open for Pokkén Tournament Pro Pad and Bundles, But It's Incompatible With Other Games
@Octane ok, it is still dumb how they let it on the system when it can only be used with this game. In the end, Nintendo is still getting money off of it.
Re: UK Pre-Orders Open for Pokkén Tournament Pro Pad and Bundles, But It's Incompatible With Other Games
Nintendo is very stupid when it comes to controllers it seems, the sad part is fans eat it up. Maybe not so much this controller because it isn't the gamecube controller but overall, they are just dumb to slurp up a controller for a single game only.
Re: Rumour: Intelligent Systems Is Working On New Paper Mario For Wii U
If this rumour is true then some faith will be restored... provided it is an actual jRPG of course.
Re: Here's a Breakdown of the Extra e-Reader Levels in Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 on the Wii U
Looks fun but... since Mario Maker has come out, I have not really felt the need to touch another Mario game... Maybe I'll find people who recreated the levels in Mario Maker. ha ha
Re: Video: Relive the Glorious Madness of The Wonderful 101 With the 60fps Director's Edition Trailer
I still need to finish this game...
Re: Nintendo Further Explains Fire Emblem Fates Localisation, With Same-Sex Marriages In Each Version
@hypercoyote
for my post. the first part is about the whole same sex and Nintendo seeming to feel the need to censor or downplay same sex relationships such as they did in this game... The second part... was more in general how anything sexual related, Nintendo tends to downplay it in the west to make it more "appropriate" when really, it doesn't need to be.
With the same sex thing, Nintendo really shouldn't be downplaying any of it to "make it more appropriate" considering how it goes against the path of society. Nintendo is still looking at the west from the past and they need to get with the times. It is good that Nintendo did leave it in there a little... though they still played it down compared to what it was and they need to stop doing that all together, stop with these "baby steps" to test the water and take a look at the west as of today.
Re: Nintendo Further Explains Fire Emblem Fates Localisation, With Same-Sex Marriages In Each Version
Ok, I am sorry but to make it more appropriate? The US recently went though the massive Supreme Court ruling making it so States could not make same sex marriages illegal and such pretty much legalizing it everywhere and acceptable in the United States.
This is nothing more than Nintendo being oblivious to the Western world and making unneeded censoring.
Even more so, not sure about the US but in Canada, In school we were exposed to sexual themes as of grade 2 and I was 7, turning 8 in that grade. By grade 4, so 9-10, we basically learned everything. Here is a game where it really doesn't go into much depth at all on the subject matter that is rated teen and they go, yet again censoring it. Nintendo needs to get with the times.
Re: Nintendo of America Confirms amiibo Support for Star Fox Zero, Details More Releases and Olympian Unlocks
@ricklongo So... by your logic, as long as there looks to be a lot of stuff, it is alright to not get a full game upon purchase for all Nintendo games even though some of the features that are there would normally be included in the games and that you'd need to spend at least a minimum of $16 (Canadian price, not sure what the Brazil price is), on top of the already $70 to get the full content of game modes, mini-games, full game use, etc..
Re: Nintendo of America Confirms amiibo Support for Star Fox Zero, Details More Releases and Olympian Unlocks
@PlywoodStick They've created a new level of the Dark Side...