UK Pre-Orders Open for Pokkén Tournament Pro Pad and Bundles, But It's Incompatible With Other Games

I have a Pro Controller, and I already have a controller that doesn't get enough use; I don't think I need another.

I just dont get it honestly. What even IS this ? O.o
First and foremost: Why doesnt it use one of the gazillion standard controller ports the WiiU offers ?
Also, why not a traditional arcade stick ? Its a Tekken game, and we already have a regular Tekken on WiiU, so that thing would have way more use.
And what makes it different from a regular Pro controller ? All i see is a D-Pad, four face buttons and at least two shoulder buttons...nothing special other than maybe micro switches....

So how much is the game on its own in the UK? They're valuing the amiibo card at £10 if you assume the game is £40, and the controller is half-price of its £20 RRP if you get the bundle. Quite confusing, though I think I'll just get the Mewtwo card with the game.

@TheLastLugia £50 on its own, £60 with the controller.

I bit! Certainly don't need any more controllers, but hey, disposable income!!!

Wouldn't touch this with a barge pole.

@ThomasBW84: "At launch its stock was rare, but even those that got hold of a unit knew one terrible truth - the GameCube Controller Adapter for Wii U is only good for one thing. You can play Super Smash Bros. for Wii U with a GameCube pad, and that's your lot."

You can also use it to play Gamecube games on your Wii U with the original GC controller, as long as you've installed "Nintendont" onto your vWii.

So in what way is this better than using the Gamepad or Pro Controller? Any?

At least this pad's incompatibility with other games makes sense, due to its lack of sticks. I still wish I could play games in Wii mode with my GC adapter.

@scamander Missed your post before making mine. I will look into this.

Nintendo is very stupid when it comes to controllers it seems, the sad part is fans eat it up. Maybe not so much this controller because it isn't the gamecube controller but overall, they are just dumb to slurp up a controller for a single game only.

I'd rather have the pro controller.

For pro players.
You asked, I answered.
This is a replica of the same controller used in the arcades.
Theoretically, you could use it at home as practice and head to the arcade with your improved skills.
And Nintendo didn't make this. They licensed it out and Hori made this.
Bit of a difference.

This controller looks nice but I still haven't managed to get a GameCube controller adapter for playing Smash Bros on my Wii U. I'll get Pokkén with the Mewtwo card but I seriously doubt I'll get this controller.

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That pad seems incredibly pointless.

Whatever floats people's boats I suppose...

@Grumblevolcano It's £40 on Amazon.

@ikki5 Nintendo didn't make the controller, Hori did.

@scamander cheers for the heads up. I didn't know this was possible yet. Makes me wonder though.....why hasn't this been reported yet on this site?(unless I missed it?)......and like the dvd fiasco on Wii, Why would you disable a feature which is hardware possible? There's allot of questions opened up again in terms of $-Vs-ethics imo. Either way, I'll look into this and see if it's worth the risk. I deleted all my homebrew stuff of my Wii before I system transferred to my Wii u cos I got all chicken about bricking my new console, but it's not so new now

On another note. This controller looks so ugly and pointless it's bound to be some kind of collectable treasure in the future. I have zero interest in fighting games but I was buying it I'd get the full set and put that plastic monstrosity somewhere safe

I decided to try pre-ordering the game with controller.
Since it's a USB controller it may have the added bonus of working on PC.

By the way, Nintendo UK are currently offering free calendars with orders over £50.
The promo codes are KARTCALENDAR1, CROSSINGCALENDAR1, ZELDACALENDAR1 and MARIOCALENDAR1.

Makes no sense for me if the player one has to use the wii u controller anyway... I'd rather use one of the pro controllers that I have anyway for Mario Kart

More importantly, can you use a Wii arcade stick with this game?

I strongly doubt that I'll ever use it (just as I'll probably never use the Smash controller, despite the premium that I paid for the bundle and the separate controller), especially considering that it is a wired controller (ugh), but the box looks really cool.

I might give this a pass, but if they include it in a bundle in Australia, I'll definitely go for the bundle.

@SuperWiiU I have no experience with the arcade stick, but if it plugs into the Wiimote and acts as a classic controller, like with the wii fight pad, it will work for sure. If not I don't think it'll be supported but has not been officially confirmed/denied.

Will be pre-ordering the bundle I think hopefully the game will be good and its good support also.

@Octane ok, it is still dumb how they let it on the system when it can only be used with this game. In the end, Nintendo is still getting money off of it.

Nintendo has been horrible with controller compatibility this generation.

I'm surprised that the Wii Classic controller still works to be honest.

I have preordered the Pokken Tournament bundle from Nintendo UK Official Store.

I have got pre-orders for the following amiibo figures already as well from a different retailer.

No.54 R.O.B (Famicom Colours)
No.55 Roy
No.56 Ryu
Isabelle Summer Outfit
Timmy and Tommy
Rover
Kapp'n

not function properly or not function at all?
its missing the analog sticks, obviously.... but what about the other buttons?

@ULTRA-64 The Wii U disc drive can't read Gamecube discs, so you have to rip them on a Wii (using another program) or download them on a PC (which you should only do, as long as you own the game). Otherwise the Wii U is completely GC backwards compatible, which is why most games run flawlessly on it.
Technically they could just enable the gamecube adapter for all VC games and dump Gamecube isos onto the eShop (just like they do with Wii games) and I really have no idea why they're not doing it.

This is good news for the purest hardcore gamer types that OCD when it comes to playing games with only certain "elite" controllers, so so news for the rest of us and myself.

My god, so much money to be made.....

IF

They would have just made a Pro Controller GC Edition. Then a Pro Controller Pokken Edition. COuld go even further N64 Edition... use all the guts from the Pro Controller, move some buttons, and have a really cool line of retro and exclusive controllers. They could even sell them as a bundle with original color schemes.....

or what about this... Amiibo function IN individual character designs controllers....

Instead we get this hacky, messy GC Adapter, now this Pokken mess... ?!
Hmmm..!

I've got enough pro controllers that I'm not interested in this.

£50 for the game?!?!?! Sod off, Nintendo, you greedy gits!

I know nintendo didn't build the controller but how do you make a system where controllers have to be custom coded to only work with one game? Why can't the usb ports just take standard input and if you don't have the right buttons for the game that's your problem cause there are controllers provided with the system that work.

@TruenoGT the difference is the arcade stick is still using standard input so all it's button press are compatible with every game even though it's usually not practical since it's missing buttons. The important difference is it means you can use it with other fighting games. I don't use an arcade stick but I've got a special ps3 controller for fighting games(it has no analog sticks) but it works with street fighter, blazblue, guilty gear, tekken, and anything else.

This is a terrible trend at Nintendo. It's released at least a couple of traditional type controllers now that are severely limited in what games you can use them on. I think that's ridiculous, and a total rip-off.

Imagine if Microsoft release the Xbox One Elite controller and said you could only play it with Killer Instinct, or something like that.

@Kirk They only re-released the GC controller, because fans of SB were asking for it. This controller above is from a third party. There are no other 'traditional type controllers [...] that are severely limited in what games you can use them' from Nintendo.

So the most pointless controller of this generation is also the most useless. Who'd have thunk?
No really, why was thing even made? It looks uncomfortable and I'm sure the original arcade machine would've been better with an arcade stick.

At least the Gamecube adapter can be used for Nintendont.

Japs will buy because of arcades but us westerner's don't really care

The Amazon pre-ordered has been up for about 2 weeks. I got mine using the £10 off £50 code they had for 1 day only, so both together for £50 basically.

Nintendo at its best.

As far as I understand it the controller is USB... NO other Wii U games know about USB for control Input, as it is NON standard.
I have the GCN Super Smash Bros. controller that works nicely on my Wii & GCN thank you very much.
In my 2c, the Wii U is much less messy than the Wii proliferation of controller options.

@Ruthven "NO other Wii U games know about USB for control Input, as it is NON standard."

That what the OS is for. In a computer system the OS handles all the I/O operations from the hardware. A program merely pools memory to check for certain bit fields(for binary buttons) or memory addresses for float values(for analog input). The OS is responsible for setting/clearing those memory address in response to I/O operations.

So a game shouldn't need to add extra functionality to get input from usb. The wiiU OS should have been updated by nintendo to handle I/O from usb and then set the same memory locations as normal controller input.

@Yorumi I agree completely but unfortunately its not the way Nintendo has designed its Wii U "Games Console". PC's will always be more flexible.

@Ruthven the setup of the wiiU is no different from a PC. The wiiU OS is still handling I/O input, it's just not been updated to also take input from the USB. Nintendo could have, and should have the moment they decided to release the GC adapter. Consoles have always been budge, specialized PCs and operate under the exact same computer science.

If player one can't use the new controller, there goes the latter's reason to exist in the first place.

They need the wii u gamepad as it requires the second screen as the game is at a shoulder angle and the wii u gamepad doesn't have a usb port therefore impossible for this controller to have use on a gamepad an I think player one always uses the gamepad in local, still this should work in normal solo play. (sorry if someone has already said this I'm writing this mid me making a video about this.)

My question is... is the game better to play with this controller, gamepad or pro controller?

@123akis in a lot of ways that's impossible to answer. When I got more seriously into fighting games I was finding I was failing some really basic input combos. I had played games like SF2 and Killer Instinct back on the snes, as well as a little virtua fighter and so I knew I could do the input but no matter how much I tried I couldn't do them in ps3 games.

I started researching controllers to find something worth buying that wasn't terribly expensive and that would be the real test if it was just me failing or the controller. What I found is there is no consensus at all. Some said the ps3 controller is the perfect controller for fighting games, others said it sucked, others said the only thing worth using is an expensive arcade stick, and others referred some 3rd party controllers.

I bought a 3rd party controller and that instantly fixed all my input problems so it was obviously the ps3 controller failing in some way(whether it was just failign to read input or something about it was making me fail the input I don't know).

The point of that long story is just to say what controller works best is going to be up to the individual. However, this controller might have an advantage because it's wired. Generally speaking any wireless controller introduces some input delay and games just mask it but fighting games have a way of really showing the devastating effect of even the smallest input delay. That's why you see the pros almost universally using wired controllers.

Well, I can't see anyone screaming with enthusiasm for this controller. I'm running out of space to put things because I've got too many amiibo now. Nintendo are really beginning to get on my nerves.

Controllers compatible with Wii U include the official Nintendo manufactured devices that can be used as controllers:

• Wii U GamePad
• Wii U Pro Controller
• Wii Remote
• Wii Remote Plus
• Wii Nunchuck
• Wii Motionplus
• Wii Classic Controller
• Wii Classic Controller Pro
• Wii Balance Board
• Wii U Microphone
• Gamecube controller
• 3DS
• 3DS XL
• New 3DS
• New 3DS XL
• Pokken Tournament Pro Pad

And the officially licensed controllers:

• Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Arcade Stick
• Wii U Fight Pad controller

Not to mention all of the other third party accessories and special controllers!

Phew! ~

I am all for using arcade sticks in fighting games, I spend 200 dollars buying a premium one myself, but you guys have to understand the game designed with the D-Pad in mind. It'd be like playing USF4 with a controller; yeah, it's possible but not at all preferred.

To answer the question lol no, I am not tempted but having heard that is how the arcade games is controllered it makes sense. They have been fighting pads in the past that would work with other games but were horrible to control other games with. Some cost almost as much as a console to play with maybe 10 games(really stretching) at the most.

I would never buy it but it is not as absurd as when I first heard about it when I didn't know that was the arcade control.

To answer the question lol no, I am not tempted but having heard that is how the arcade games is controllered it makes sense. They have been fighting pads in the past that would work with other games but were horrible to control other games with. Some cost almost as much as a console to play with maybe 10 games(really stretching) at the most.

I would never buy it but it is not as absurd as when I first heard about it when I didn't know that was the arcade control.

What a waste of raw materials....

People act like there aren't exclusive controllers to games. Bamco made this controller design for the arcade and Hori is just making a home version to make this as close to the arcade as possible. No different than Tatacon, DK Bongos, flight sticks, rock band controllers, arcade fightsticks and the list goes on... The only thing is this is the first in the series.

The controller is a love letter to people who played the game in arcades first. It would be like a street fighter game being bundled with an arcade stick. And I would get the bundle with the controller, amiibo card and game if it is released in the land down under. I'm not gonna pay extra to have a copy imported from UK.

@ikki5 like the gc adaptor? lol

"Note that due to software design, Player One must always use the Wii U Gamepad for local battles."

Wait... what? Pokken Tournament is in the EVO 2016 lineup, and you're telling me that poor player 1 has to use the Gamepad? This just doesn't sound right. In Smash tournaments, the Gamepad isn't even legal! And now it looks like one player gets stuck with the Gamepad and the other gets a much more desirable arcade pad/pro controller. I really hope I'm just reading this wrong...