At this rate NSO will be shut down before the Switch's successor is even out. I sure am glad Virtual Console doesn't exist anymore. All ya'll who passed on the Wii U back in the day will be sorry when NSO shuts down and I can still play Ocarina of Time and Super Metroid.
Hate them all. Paying for online was always a scam and still is. You can thank Microsoft for pioneering that extortion scheme. And locking games behind a subscription service without the option to purchase outright is paying for a product you don’t get to keep. When those services shut down in 5 to 10 years, all those games will be inaccessible. Like when the Wii u eshop will close only you don’t even get to play the games you’ve downloaded.
The only thing Nintendo should learn from Xbox is that they should make their legacy content available for purchase. Nothing else. If the 3ds and Wii u had game pass, all of their games would become completely unavailable in a year’s time. Thankfully we’ll still be able to play downloaded games even after the shops close. With every company wanting a subscription based future we have unfortunately already passed the time of widest game availability. In 10 years when NSO closes all those NES and SNES games will be unplayable. And when Xbox game pass dies some day all of those games will escape availability to those subscribers. I can still play my 1991 cart of Sonic 1. Game pass ain’t got nothing on that. And never ever will in a million years. Because even then my cart of Sonic 1 will still probably exist.
Yeah. Nintendo shutting down the eshop wouldn’t be a big deal if they did very simple things. Like 1: making all of their virtual console games available on Switch. All of them. Immediately. We just got Majora’s Mask 5 years into the Switch’s life. That’s embarrassing. Especially when N64 roms and emulation has existed in quality form since the gamecube days. And 2: making it so that libraries, and nonprofit organizations dedicated to game preservation can more easily preserve their past titles without constant legal threats and action being taken against them by Nintendo. It isn’t just shutting down the old shops that makes people peeved at Nintendo. It’s that they seem to have overt contempt for any and all actions to preserve their past titles.
In the world of cross platform play. This is just embarrassing. Nintendo wants to do everything it can to keep negative press around its name lately what with the erasure of legacy eshops and now this. Nintendo’s doing its predictable pendulum swing towards being an anti-consumer gluttonous slob after 5 years of success with the Switch. After their next inevitable failure they’ll have to relearn to be a decent company that treats its customers with value. This happened in the late years of the Wii, then the Wii u was a huge bomb. They had to relearn how to get happy customers, just so they can become big headed again until their big headedness pushes away customers. Rinse and repeat ad nauseam. Sony’s in a similar spot after the success of the Ps4.
Absolutely true. But let’s not pretend it would have been possible without the orbital massive impact its predecessor had. Ocarina of Time is unquestionably a masterpiece and one of the most important, significant, revolutionary, enjoyable, and truly classic games every made. Majora is better though.
@Screen nah dawgg. If Nintendo hates piracy then making their games as easily accessible as possible would combat piracy. Music piracy decreased insanely once iTunes made buying the songs legally way easier than pirating them.
@Rika_Yoshitake Xbox live arcade games are still up. And Sony backtracked on shutting down their stores after similar outrage. So don’t really know what you’re talking about.
This situation is why I laugh whenever a video game publisher claims that this medium is art. If it were art it would be important to publishers to preserve their creations. If it were art, publishers would take steps to ensure that their art is available to as wide an audience as possible. Notice how every work of literary fiction is automatically by law registered with the Library of Congress? Notice how you can stroll to your local library and borrow thousands of years worth of literary works? That’s cuz it’s art, and is treated as such. Films are also lightyears ahead of video games when it comes to this. Video game makers love to hold the game awards, and love to talk of art when it serves their marketing interests. But they are absolutely disgraceful when it comes to actually treating their works as art should properly be treated.
Save your money. Buy it on the Wii u eshop or the 3d version on 3ds eshop instead. You’ll still be able to play those versions long after NSO shuts down.
I highly question that it would really be much of a drain on Nintendo’s resources to keep these stores open. Sony backtracked on shutting down the Vita and PS3 stores, thank god. Nintendo could do the same very easily if they chose to. I’m very much looking forward to NSO being closed down in a decade or so and people losing access to all of the games available on it. Only this time you won’t be able to play them at all after it closes. At least you’ll be able to play Wii u games that are downloaded after the eshop closes.
Funny. Nintendo just announced that all the games on the 3ds and Wii u eshops will be forever unpurchasable a year from now. So to all of those who tout these subscription services I ask, what happens when Nintendo shuts down NSO in 10 years or so? What happens to all those games? With the Wii u eshop you at least can play all the games you bought and downloaded long after the shops close down. Like you can with Wii shop channel games. But with subscription services. Once they’re shut down, the games are gone forever. I can still pop my Sega Genesis cart of Sonic 2 into my system and play it to this very day. 30 years later. How many games released solely on subscription services will be playable 30 or even 10 years down the line? These services might seem like a good deal now. But will they still be so if you can no longer play your favorite games once these services inevitably shut down? Something to keep in mind as time elapses.
It might be Nintendo’s legal right to do this, but it’s beyond idiotic and entirely scummy to do so. Where do they provide an alternative where you can listen to all of their game music? Nowhere. Also this is such a moronic move from a business perspective. Having amazing music that people can easily share on YouTube is such a slam dunk free advertising opportunity. They’re literally snuffing out an entire avenue of exposure and discussion around their games. Notice how Square doesn’t do the same with Final Fantasy music? No. Square leaves it up on YouTube for all to listen. And then has regular concerts it puts on with renditions of said music. They use that free exposure and advertising to their advantage. Nintendo needs to learn that publicity and exposure is free advertising. They finally learned this with let’s plays. They need to learn it with this. I have literally decided to buy games after listening to their music on YouTube before. I know others have too. Come on Nintendo.
Sorry Bobby my boy, but claiming fake news about a WSJ report, one of the big three papers of record, ain't a good look. Though to be fair, your reputation can't be tarnished much further.
Game companies can’t even sell video games as it is without employing absolute scumbag tactics. So no. NFTS aren’t good. It’s like Facebook touting the metaverse. Why should anyone be excited about that when Facebook can’t even run their 2d website without viral spread of misinformation and huge amounts of depression. What you currently do is rubbish so why think you’ll be any different with something else?
So. Breath of the Sonic mixed with Sonic of the Colossus. I’m sure it’ll be perfectly fine given Sonic Team’s track record. Especially on Switch. I mean they got Sonic Colors, a Wii game, to run so perfectly fine on it.
Nah dawgg. You got all the assets left from Ultimate. You could absolutely make the next one bigger. Especially since it's literally one of the best selling series in the world and Nintendo actually has near unlimited resources to achieve it. If it has been done once. It can be done again.
Also Link's awakening Switch should be a separate game on this list. It would be at 0% if it were separated from the garbage GB versions. It's unfair that it is one of the best games in the series, but has to be lumped in with its aged, garbage tier, only good through rose tinted glasses, original versions.
I like that they actually considered it from a speedrunning perspective. I'm still hurt about the early Space Jump and Plasma Beam "fixes" in later releases of Prime 1. So I'm glad they're actually considering whether it is something that could hurt casual players or not.
@HeroOfTime32 Yeah. I actually think they overcorrected bug fixes in subsequent releases of Prime 1. It's why speed runners still prefer the original Black Label NA release. I actually prefer it too.
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Re: E3 2024 And 2025 Have Supposedly Been Cancelled
Summer Games Fest is now the E3 successor. Just like E3 succeeded CES for video games. When a phoenix dies a new one is born from the ashes.
Re: Nintendo Direct Showcase Confirmed For Wednesday 21st June 2023
F Zero 21xx and Paper Mario 3 incoming!!!
Re: Hands On: Disney Illusion Island Is A Spectacular Platforming Surprise
This will probably be the closest we ever get to a Rayman Legends sequel.
Re: Sonic Superstars Developed By Original Designer's Studio
Welp. Guilty until proven innocent it is then.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About Ubisoft's Metroidvania "Inspired" Prince Of Persia Platformer?
It's a Ubisoft game. Guilty until proven innocent.
Re: Sonic Superstars Sees The Return Of Classic-Style Sonic With New Visuals
Is this made by the people that made Sonic Mania? If not then I will treat it as bad until proven good.
Re: Talking Point: Which Version Of Zelda: Link's Awakening Is Your Favourite?
Anyone saying either of the GB versions is the best got mad rose tinted glasses on.
Re: Random: Zelda Devs Reveal Which Link They Think Is The Stinkiest
You gotta consider whether each iteration wears pants or not. You gotta remember that most of them are just free-ballin'.
Re: Random: Oops! Nintendo's Doug Bowser Makes Amusing Zelda Typo On Twitter
If it were Hytule that'd be excusable. But Hyland? That's pretty bad.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Release Pac-Man 99 Shutting Down This October
At this rate NSO will be shut down before the Switch's successor is even out. I sure am glad Virtual Console doesn't exist anymore. All ya'll who passed on the Wii U back in the day will be sorry when NSO shuts down and I can still play Ocarina of Time and Super Metroid.
Re: Expect More Open-World Zelda Games Going Forwards, Suggests Eiji Aonuma
If an open world Zelda also had like 11 Twilight Princess quality dungeons in it it would actually be the best game ever made by quite a bit.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - Beyond Good And Evil
We're actually gonna get Half Life and Portal 3 before we get a sequel to this game. I don't trust Ubisoft to stick the landing at this point anyway.
Re: Peppa Pig: World Adventures Lead Producer Explains Random Queen Tribute
Removed
Re: Rumour: The Infamous Phillips CD-i Zelda Games Are Being Remastered For Switch
The sad thing about this is that it would actually be so cool if it were true.....
Re: Switch Online Missions & Rewards Could Be Getting Metroid Prime Remastered Icons
I'd rather they just print enough copies.
Re: Metroid Prime Remastered Physical Version Out Now (US), Will You Be Getting It?
I'd get it if Nintendo would let me.
Re: Talking Point: What Game Do You Replay Every Year?
RE4 All day. And Super Metroid.
Re: Hideki Kamiya On New Bayonetta: "Take Your Guard Down & Approach This Title With A Fresh, Open Mind"
@Arkay I'm making a joke in reference to Polygon's dumpster fire review of Bayonetta 3.
Re: Hideki Kamiya On New Bayonetta: "Take Your Guard Down & Approach This Title With A Fresh, Open Mind"
Yeah. But They made her straight. How am I supposed to enjoy a video game when the main female character is straight????
Re: GoldenEye 007 Is Returning To Nintendo Switch
Oh no. It's on NSO. What a disappointment. Watch, in a few years licenses will expire and it'll be stripped from the service.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Switch Online, Game Pass, And 'New' PS Plus - How Do They Compare?
Hate them all. Paying for online was always a scam and still is. You can thank Microsoft for pioneering that extortion scheme. And locking games behind a subscription service without the option to purchase outright is paying for a product you don’t get to keep. When those services shut down in 5 to 10 years, all those games will be inaccessible. Like when the Wii u eshop will close only you don’t even get to play the games you’ve downloaded.
Re: Video: Switch Online Could Learn A Lot From Xbox Game Pass
The only thing Nintendo should learn from Xbox is that they should make their legacy content available for purchase. Nothing else. If the 3ds and Wii u had game pass, all of their games would become completely unavailable in a year’s time. Thankfully we’ll still be able to play downloaded games even after the shops close. With every company wanting a subscription based future we have unfortunately already passed the time of widest game availability. In 10 years when NSO closes all those NES and SNES games will be unplayable. And when Xbox game pass dies some day all of those games will escape availability to those subscribers. I can still play my 1991 cart of Sonic 1. Game pass ain’t got nothing on that. And never ever will in a million years. Because even then my cart of Sonic 1 will still probably exist.
Re: Random: No, Your Wii Isn't Going To Self-Destruct
“I’m sure you’ll understand” should be Nintendo’s new motto.
Re: Final Fantasy's 35th Anniversary Website Hints At New Projects
Pixel Remasters on Switch or bust.
Re: Feature: "These Older eShop Titles Paid Our Office Rent" - 3DS And Wii U Devs Discuss The eShop Closure
Yeah. Nintendo shutting down the eshop wouldn’t be a big deal if they did very simple things. Like 1: making all of their virtual console games available on Switch. All of them. Immediately. We just got Majora’s Mask 5 years into the Switch’s life. That’s embarrassing. Especially when N64 roms and emulation has existed in quality form since the gamecube days. And 2: making it so that libraries, and nonprofit organizations dedicated to game preservation can more easily preserve their past titles without constant legal threats and action being taken against them by Nintendo. It isn’t just shutting down the old shops that makes people peeved at Nintendo. It’s that they seem to have overt contempt for any and all actions to preserve their past titles.
Re: It's Official, Nintendo Has Withdrawn Super Smash Bros. From EVO 2022
In the world of cross platform play. This is just embarrassing. Nintendo wants to do everything it can to keep negative press around its name lately what with the erasure of legacy eshops and now this. Nintendo’s doing its predictable pendulum swing towards being an anti-consumer gluttonous slob after 5 years of success with the Switch. After their next inevitable failure they’ll have to relearn to be a decent company that treats its customers with value. This happened in the late years of the Wii, then the Wii u was a huge bomb. They had to relearn how to get happy customers, just so they can become big headed again until their big headedness pushes away customers. Rinse and repeat ad nauseam. Sony’s in a similar spot after the success of the Ps4.
Re: Video: Some Of Us Prefer Zelda: Majora's Mask Over Ocarina Of Time Because We're Right
Absolutely true. But let’s not pretend it would have been possible without the orbital massive impact its predecessor had. Ocarina of Time is unquestionably a masterpiece and one of the most important, significant, revolutionary, enjoyable, and truly classic games every made. Majora is better though.
Re: Video: What If Mario Kart Let You Drive Car Mouth Kirby?
That would actually be the objectively best thing ever.
Re: Square Enix Is Looking Into More HD-2D Remakes Of SNES Classics
Hey. At least they’re interested in making their catalog of past titles available for people to play.
Re: Video Game History Foundation Calls Out Nintendo's "Destructive" 3DS & Wii U eShop Closure
@Screen nah dawgg. If Nintendo hates piracy then making their games as easily accessible as possible would combat piracy. Music piracy decreased insanely once iTunes made buying the songs legally way easier than pirating them.
Re: Video Game History Foundation Calls Out Nintendo's "Destructive" 3DS & Wii U eShop Closure
@Rika_Yoshitake Xbox live arcade games are still up. And Sony backtracked on shutting down their stores after similar outrage. So don’t really know what you’re talking about.
Re: Video Game History Foundation Calls Out Nintendo's "Destructive" 3DS & Wii U eShop Closure
This situation is why I laugh whenever a video game publisher claims that this medium is art. If it were art it would be important to publishers to preserve their creations. If it were art, publishers would take steps to ensure that their art is available to as wide an audience as possible. Notice how every work of literary fiction is automatically by law registered with the Library of Congress? Notice how you can stroll to your local library and borrow thousands of years worth of literary works? That’s cuz it’s art, and is treated as such. Films are also lightyears ahead of video games when it comes to this. Video game makers love to hold the game awards, and love to talk of art when it serves their marketing interests. But they are absolutely disgraceful when it comes to actually treating their works as art should properly be treated.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask Joins Switch Online's N64 Library Next Week
Save your money. Buy it on the Wii u eshop or the 3d version on 3ds eshop instead. You’ll still be able to play those versions long after NSO shuts down.
Re: Feature: "NCL Has Been Waiting For This Day Since 2014" - Former NOA Employee Talks Nintendo eShop Closures
I highly question that it would really be much of a drain on Nintendo’s resources to keep these stores open. Sony backtracked on shutting down the Vita and PS3 stores, thank god. Nintendo could do the same very easily if they chose to. I’m very much looking forward to NSO being closed down in a decade or so and people losing access to all of the games available on it. Only this time you won’t be able to play them at all after it closes. At least you’ll be able to play Wii u games that are downloaded after the eshop closes.
Re: Soapbox: NSO Isn't Game Pass, But Nintendo Is Learning The Benefits Of Subscription Models
Funny. Nintendo just announced that all the games on the 3ds and Wii u eshops will be forever unpurchasable a year from now. So to all of those who tout these subscription services I ask, what happens when Nintendo shuts down NSO in 10 years or so? What happens to all those games? With the Wii u eshop you at least can play all the games you bought and downloaded long after the shops close down. Like you can with Wii shop channel games. But with subscription services. Once they’re shut down, the games are gone forever. I can still pop my Sega Genesis cart of Sonic 2 into my system and play it to this very day. 30 years later. How many games released solely on subscription services will be playable 30 or even 10 years down the line? These services might seem like a good deal now. But will they still be so if you can no longer play your favorite games once these services inevitably shut down? Something to keep in mind as time elapses.
Re: Nintendo Blocks Another 2,200 Videos On YouTube Featuring Its Music
It might be Nintendo’s legal right to do this, but it’s beyond idiotic and entirely scummy to do so. Where do they provide an alternative where you can listen to all of their game music? Nowhere. Also this is such a moronic move from a business perspective. Having amazing music that people can easily share on YouTube is such a slam dunk free advertising opportunity. They’re literally snuffing out an entire avenue of exposure and discussion around their games. Notice how Square doesn’t do the same with Final Fantasy music? No. Square leaves it up on YouTube for all to listen. And then has regular concerts it puts on with renditions of said music. They use that free exposure and advertising to their advantage. Nintendo needs to learn that publicity and exposure is free advertising. They finally learned this with let’s plays. They need to learn it with this. I have literally decided to buy games after listening to their music on YouTube before. I know others have too. Come on Nintendo.
Re: It's Now Been Three Years Since Metroid Prime 4's Development Was Scrapped And Restarted
I think we’ll finally see something this year. As for when it’ll release? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s this year or 5 years from now. Who knows?
Re: Bobby Kotick Considered Buying Game Websites To "Change The Public Narrative" Around Activision
Sorry Bobby my boy, but claiming fake news about a WSJ report, one of the big three papers of record, ain't a good look. Though to be fair, your reputation can't be tarnished much further.
Re: Talking Point: What Could NFTs Mean For Gaming, And Why Are They So Divisive?
Game companies can’t even sell video games as it is without employing absolute scumbag tactics. So no. NFTS aren’t good. It’s like Facebook touting the metaverse. Why should anyone be excited about that when Facebook can’t even run their 2d website without viral spread of misinformation and huge amounts of depression. What you currently do is rubbish so why think you’ll be any different with something else?
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate Nintendo's 2021?
New Metroid. 10/10.
Re: The Plot Synopsis For Sonic Frontiers Has Been Revealed
Oh my god. I can’t believe Sonic has to save the day.
Re: Introducing Sonic Frontiers, Arriving On Nintendo Switch Holiday 2022
So. Breath of the Sonic mixed with Sonic of the Colossus. I’m sure it’ll be perfectly fine given Sonic Team’s track record. Especially on Switch. I mean they got Sonic Colors, a Wii game, to run so perfectly fine on it.
Re: Masayuki Uemura, Creator Of The NES And SNES, Has Passed Away
Rest In Peace good sir. You are one of the people most responsible for the countless hours of joy brought to T.V.s throughout the world.
Re: A New Smash Bros. Would Need A Smaller Roster, Admits Sakurai
Nah dawgg. You got all the assets left from Ultimate. You could absolutely make the next one bigger. Especially since it's literally one of the best selling series in the world and Nintendo actually has near unlimited resources to achieve it. If it has been done once. It can be done again.
Re: Poll: What's The Worst Legend Of Zelda Game?
Also Link's awakening Switch should be a separate game on this list. It would be at 0% if it were separated from the garbage GB versions. It's unfair that it is one of the best games in the series, but has to be lumped in with its aged, garbage tier, only good through rose tinted glasses, original versions.
Re: Poll: What's The Worst Legend Of Zelda Game?
@Ultimapunch It's utterly shocking that only 5% of the people voting here have even played all of the games.
Re: Poll: What's The Worst Legend Of Zelda Game?
Anyone who didn't vote for the OG Zelda has really revealed to everyone that they haven't actually played all of them from start to finish.
Re: The Game Awards Has A "World Premiere" It's Been Working On With A Dev For 2.5 Years, And One Guess Is Zelda
It’s Prime 4 100%
Re: Metroid Dread Version 1.0.3 Is Now Available, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
I like that they actually considered it from a speedrunning perspective. I'm still hurt about the early Space Jump and Plasma Beam "fixes" in later releases of Prime 1. So I'm glad they're actually considering whether it is something that could hurt casual players or not.
Re: Metroid Dread Version 1.0.2 Is Now Available, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@HeroOfTime32 Yeah. I actually think they overcorrected bug fixes in subsequent releases of Prime 1. It's why speed runners still prefer the original Black Label NA release. I actually prefer it too.