It turns out last week's events were just the beginning - with YouTube video game music channel GilvaSunner announcing they've now been hit with another 2,200 copyright blocks from Nintendo.
The same channel has had a target on its back for some time now, and the latest update follows on from 1,300 takedowns. In a series of messages over on Twitter, the channel's creator said they were ready to call it a day and would be deleting the channel, or at least "what's left of it" this Friday. More copyright blocks are also expected to follow:
https://twitter.com/gilvasunner/status/1488555303918616581?s=21
After thinking about this a lot over the past few days, I’ve decided that at this point it’s really not worth it to keep the channel up any longer, and will therefore delete the GilvaSunner YouTube channel (or what’s left of it) this coming Friday.
There are many different opinions over what is happening and that’s fine! I can understand pretty much all sides. I know this is disappointing to read for a lot of you, but I hope you can respect my decision to want to move on at this point.
I want to thank you for the 11+ years of support (or more if you followed me before this account) and the many nice messages you shared with me. It’s been truly amazing to see the VGM scene grow so much! Please keep supporting the composers and community!
The same channel was originally a target of Nintendo copyright claims in 2020, so it's not the first time something like this has happened. Here's a message shared by the GilvaSunner around the same time - clarifying how they never monetised videos:
I see a lot of assumptions being made by some of you with some extreme words against me. Let me clarify again that I do not monetize videos and do not profit from them. I do realize that doesn’t justify uploading the content.
I’m also not angry or surprised that Nintendo is doing this, but I do think it’s a bit disappointing there is hardly an alternative. If Nintendo thinks this is what needs to be done (to set an example), I will let them take down the channel. It is their content after all.
The songs removed from this YouTube channel come from Nintendo series like Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Super Smash. Bros, Kirby, Kid Icarus, Mother/EarthBound and Luigi's Mansion.
If we hear anything else, we'll provide an update.
Comments (111)
I mean, this is highly unlikely, but maybe Nintendo is actually planning on providing some sort of streaming service? It seems that sometimes when they do a major strike it's because they have something planned for it in the future
EDIT: Also I should say, R.I.P. GilvaSunner. I wish Nintendo explained their actions for this, instead of just coming in and destroying a longtime channel.
Ah yes... the songs that are not legally available anywhere. And i own over 30 nintendo cds, but it's insane...
I still remember that they wanted people to listen to nintendo music... using the switch, headphones and smash bros.
What is the point, Nintendo? Just let us enjoy the music like we enjoy all other video game music on there.
Wake up and realise you are hurting the fans enjoyment and your public image far more than this “piracy” is hurting your wallet.
Psst...
I still found some Nintendo games OST on Youtube.
Nintendo sure doesn't love to provide legal means for people to listen to OSTs. It's almost like they're encouraging unscrupulous methods.
I think once you're in this game of uploading content that is not yours, you are living on borrowed time, and that's exactly why the guy that owns the channel is being level headed about it. At least he was decent enough not to monetize it, so I have absolutely no problem with his channel. Maybe Nintendo intends to make some of these legally available somehow.
Hasn't this user already had one channel removed? Not surprising if they had. Probably because they have so many Nintendo songs on the channel. Like Anti-Matter said, you can still find Nintendo music pretty easily on Youtube. Of course it would be great if Nintendo would give users an option to stream their music legally but knowing them, we may see that by the end of the decade.
I just want to groove dude ):
All nintendo has to do is let us listen to the music in some official way.
You know, besides literally playing the games.
Nintendo once again not allowing Nintendo fans to enjoy Nintendo.
Nintendo needs to make some sort of compromise on making its music available via its official channel or something or update its copyright law.
Having it's music restricted like this ain't gonna fly.
@Troll_Decimator I agree if the person is deliberately exploiting other people’s content then it isn’t a good thing.
However, this person was just doing a fan service to the Nintendo community. They likely spent hundreds (if not thousands) of hours providing for others something that wasn’t available by official means.
He should have been praised or rewarded but instead Nintendo has treated him like a criminal.
Shame, shame, shame on Nintendo!
Keep trying Nintendo for every music video you take down 5 more will appear
And I'll continue to increase my collection of MP3s of Nintendo music that you wont provide yourselves 👍
I legit have purchased several games because I listened to their OST on YouTube.
If they won't let us purchase or stream their OSTs nor let us purchase many of the games in question on currently available/modern platforms this is such a **** move.
Give us an alternative to listen to your music Nintendo! How does this hurt you in any way?
This is just a horrible move from an out-of-touch wet fart of a corporate entity. Nintendo are supposed to be about fun.
You can take Jolly Roger Bay from my cold dead hands.
@Kienda I don't think they are treating him like a criminal, they didn't dispatch the police on the guy. They are just exercising their legal rights on the content. I agree that I don't really see the reason, but I am not a Nintendo lawyer and I don't know how copyright law works by any means.
Nintendo once again missing the forest for the trees.
@cheetahman91 Yep, switch the first letters. SilvaGunner.
@Floof_Cat Thanks. That's what I thought. I think I was subscribed to that channel once upon a time. You thank they would learn by now.
Welcome to the shadow realm jimbo
It’s sad to see GilvaSunner go like this, but is great that they are being so understanding towards Nintendo.
seeing the baba is you dev in the replies to the second tweet was surreal; gilvasunner's arguably played a huge role in spreading the popularity of VGM in the last 11+ years, especially before many companies started putting their stuff on streaming services. it wouldn't be inaccurate to say some people have grown up with their channel
I mean it’s Nintendo’s right to do this.
It might be Nintendo’s legal right to do this, but it’s beyond idiotic and entirely scummy to do so. Where do they provide an alternative where you can listen to all of their game music? Nowhere. Also this is such a moronic move from a business perspective. Having amazing music that people can easily share on YouTube is such a slam dunk free advertising opportunity. They’re literally snuffing out an entire avenue of exposure and discussion around their games. Notice how Square doesn’t do the same with Final Fantasy music? No. Square leaves it up on YouTube for all to listen. And then has regular concerts it puts on with renditions of said music. They use that free exposure and advertising to their advantage. Nintendo needs to learn that publicity and exposure is free advertising. They finally learned this with let’s plays. They need to learn it with this. I have literally decided to buy games after listening to their music on YouTube before. I know others have too. Come on Nintendo.
Magically this channel will still be here Friday and it’s owner will start a Patreon, even if the channel is deleted the owner will start one anyway.
@Ultimapunch to be fair, most outspoken against channels like this care less about the accessibility/availability of music and/or whether it's questionable morally (especially when done without an alternative venue; see GilvaSunner's pinned tweet asking why Nintendo is one of the only companies not to bring their music to streaming) and instead focus on an extreme nose to the grindstone following of the (already wibbly) legal side
@Pikachupwnage
Rest in piece virtual console.
Between that and sonys "psone classics" line i loved how they made buying classic games legit much easier (and cheaper in a lot of cases, looking at you Earthbound and Suikoden II) and it was a pity that both were phased out over the 2010's
iin terms of music while more companies are jumping on the streaming/digital download train i cant really see nintendo jumping on that, as much as i would love to see it.
It’s their music so their right to deny you the use of it just like every other band and game company. I support this actually. Let me just say they do allow you to stream and post gameplay videos of their games so this is literally a distribution issue where people are just posting the music alone with no other content with it. Also most bands and companies will not allow you to use their music as background music either unless you get the rights.
I actually give Nintendo props for protecting what’s theirs. If you want it buy it or freaking record it yourself off their games.
@Dirty0814 "Also most bands and companies will not allow you to use their music as background music either unless you get the rights." and this is how we ended up in situations like Metallica playing on Twitch completely mute outside of stock music, Rock and Roll Racing streamers having to be warned to turn off music, etc. "A Good Thing!"
Imagine Nintendo spending half as much time, efforts and money on developing new games!
Why so many people here start a comment with "I mean,"?
And the open, deliberate antagonism continues! Seriously, who is this hurting?
@TheBigK no see it's hurting the Brand Image to have the music uploaded completely unaltered on the most milquetoast hands-off unmonetized youtube ever, they have to protect their ips
@somebread it is a good thing. It’s metallicas or whoever else’s music. They have the rights to it regardless of if you paid for it or not. When you buy a game, cd, book etc it is for your own personal use. You can sell it to someone else if it is physical but you lose the item and the right to use that item. Digital is the same thing but more regulated is all. It’s theirs so why should they be ok with you using it for your business (stream or video), and yes they are types of businesses without paying royalties or getting permission? I mean you want someone to ask permission before they borrow your stuff.
@Ultimapunch try to pay your local artist in free exposure?
@homebred no it’s called you distributing something that isn’t yours which is illegal and theft. It’s their and their choice to allow you to do it or not and actually most companies and businesses do not allow it.
First of all, Nintendo can’t stop everybody, they’re just making it slightly harder to access everything quickly. Pssst… 31 Horas Music…
Second, what a bad thing to do! I mean, with some of Nintendo’s other bad decisions, I can slightly defend them, but this is just a massively terrible thing to do. Shame on Nintendo for purposely turning down profit in favor of being massive meanie heads, to use a kindergarten expression.
RIP GilvaSunner.
At least SilvaGunner remains… I don’t know what I’d do if they’re gone… Probably complain some more lol.
@N8tiveT3ch i think it's pretty safe to say nintendo are not on the same tier as a local artist
@Dirty0814 the point of the original post there is it's their music, and even they aren't allowed to play/stream it under threat of DMCA; who has to ask permission to borrow their own stuff? this is the end result of too heavily enforced copyright laws
also, the "you lose the item and right to use that item when sold" argument kind of loses credence when all of those things can legally have personal copies made (scanning a book, ripping a cd, ripping a game; hence the initial backlash some had to the advent of digital music/CDs/hell, even cassette recorders and some of the current adjacent author backlash to CDL)
as I said on the last article, if they are not distributing the music (outside of in-game, and the amount of people who will lug around a game system to listen to a soundtrack are few and far between + many games do not have sound tests) and the uploader is not monetizing it nor taking credit (or even doing the hokey "credit to the original artist" thing, they drop the musician in the description), what is being stolen here?
Well, this YouTube channel was just playing music owned by Nintendo so I'm not surprised. For all the time it took to put up all these tracks the YouTuber could have made something of their own.
I'm of two minds. On one hand, it's understandable why Nintendo (or at least YouTube's irritatingly odd algorithm) would legally pursue this. On the other, fans are literally begging for a legal alternative. Sure, we can play the games these tunes are from, but that is far from a feasible option for many. Especially for older, obscure titles being flogged on the retro market.
Wake the F up nintendo and stop living in the 90's
Such an ass move on Nintendo's part. Do they expect people to turn on a game and get to a specific area just to listen to a song in the background while they study or whatever?
Nintendo sure is one strange anti-fan beast....
I'm surprised Nintendolife hasn't been shut down for having the word 'Nintendo' in the website name.
Nintendo really hate free marketing. They would rather dish out money on lawyers coming after people than capitalizing the exposure these videos get them to gain new customers
Even if Nintendo decided to upload their own soundtracks on YouTube and Spotify, we would probably get low quality sound, incomplete soundtracks, and having those unused tracks that fans find by ripping would be a dream.
I mean, I’d be okay with it if Nintendo offered an alternate way of listening to their music. I’d be happy to pay a reasonable fee, ever per album or subscription service..
But at present, they don’t. And it’s stupid. They don’t get anything from it. The listeners don’t get anything out of it, so what’s the point?
Do they not like money?
Sometimes I wish Nintendo would hire a common sense manager, but that will never happen because they’d need a common sense manager to tell them to hire a common sense manager
@Dirty0814 Copying is not theft, if you make something, and I take it away from you without your consent, you don't have it anymore, that's theft, but if you make something, and I make a copy of it, you still have the original, nothing was stolen.
Copyright is a protection to make it illegal to make and share copies, but copyright infringement is still not theft.
Copyright laws are important to reward the artist, but they need to be changed, have more fair use, less restrictions, and a shorter duration to make it 100% legal to copy and share music, books, movies and games made decades ago.
Arrogant Nintendo is back i see. Never seen a corporation hates its fans like Nintendo does.
Guess that explains why I had a "Liked videos that are no longer available are not displayed in this list" notice on my Liked Videos list today. The real bummer is that YT won't even tell me the name of the video that was taken down, so I have no hope of ever finding an alternative.
the amount of Nintendo bootlicking I'm seeing is disgusting me
@somebread firs of all no one has any issue distributing their own stuff. If someone else does that is different, even if it is altered a little bit. A techno Metallica song is still under copyrights law as it is their music or lyrics. As far as Nintendo being on the same page they are exactly on that same page not one media company or group is different. Also as far as making copies of cds, books, games etc that is also against the law, yes people do it because it cannot be traced like streaming something you don’t or no longer own. Why do you think we have issues with getting retro games on consoles? It’s because someone owns the right to some part of it and will not agree to allow it to be remade or redistributed.
As for people not distributing the game it is not even an argument . Not monetizing or monetizing it is all the same, they are using a distributing stuff they do not own period. When I streamed left 4 dead and Motörhead played twitch cut it out because I do not have the rights to those songs. If I got rights then I could use it even though it was included in the game I was streaming.
What your talking about is a literal free market where people can just bypass the payment system and get everything for free. That is how companies and artists go broke. If you want it buy it or keep it for yourself. I feel sorry for anyone that tries to scam the system and gets caught. Nintendo and every other company or artist has every right to let or not let people use their stuff freely. Nintendo chooses to keep its stuff close and I don’t blame them at all.
@victordamazio copy right infringement is theft. You are literally using something that is not yours wether you claim it is or not. When found to not be yours it is copyright infringement or patent infringement because you never had any right to use said item even if you never made any money off of it.
If you take my music and make a copy of it and then use it for a stream or background music you are are committing copyright infringement because you did not have the rights or permission to use it. That is theft, you literally used something that wasn’t yours to use in the way you used it. When you buy games or music etc you paid for it to use for personal use only not to stream it or let someone else copy it. When it comes to the digital world there is no borrowing or sharing unless the actual owner says so. If they do not and you do it anyway you are literally stealing their work.
YouTube literally allows for Nintendo to claim any ad revenue these videos generate by giving them the option to leave the video up but claim all the proceeds, because regardless of a channel's decision whether or not to monetise their videos YouTube will play ads on any video it deems necessary... so if the videos had high viewing figures it's likely YouTube was making money off them.
Why Nintendo would rather choose the option to entirely remove the videos instead and claim none of the revenue in the process (especially when they provide no legal means to listen to much of the music) is beyond me.
@Otoemetry - My guess? Nintendo is a conservative company, and this didn't fit into their plans. Rather than adapt, they simply decided to remove the element from the equation, and went back to business as usual (but I could be wrong on that).
@Alpha008 - "I mean, I’d be okay with it if Nintendo offered an alternate way of listening to their music. I’d be happy to pay a reasonable fee, ever per album or subscription service.."
You mean besides the games they come from? Because technically speaking that is an option (admittedly not the most convenient one, but still...).
While a disappointment, personally I don't see it worth raising a fuss over, as others have here. Stuff like this is always operating on borrowed time, and at the end of the day, it's not really that much of a loss, relatively speaking.
Nintendo doesn't care about YouTube I guess. Honestly they could wipe out everything music-worthy on YouTube
Very good, Nintendo! Piracy must and needs to be stopped.
If you don't intend to comply with US and Japanese fair use guidelines, please use license free music for your videos, or pay for what you're using. It's really not that difficult.
So it's not worth keeping the channel after Nintendo removes all their music? So what exactly did the guy do apart from leech?
Oh man, I have a huge playlist of my favourite video game music, and like half of the videos are his. Too bad, because everytime I listen to Nintendo's music I get the urge to play their games. But I guess it is their right to do that. I just wish that they uploaded the music themselves then.
And for every 2,000 videos taken down, another 4,000 will rise in their place.
Stiff-necked fools, Japan Nintendo executives are.
Sorry to hear about this. I've made various music levels in Mario Maker 1 & 2, and in my YouTube uploads of them, I usually include a link to the original music in my descriptions, for the sake of comparison. And I recall that many of those links were to GilvaSunner's videos. (Guess I'll have to go through and change those at some point now.)
It's just really a shame that Nintendo decides to do something like this, when they themselves don't make their video game music available in any way. Yes, it's their right to do so. But it's also the right of consumers to draw further and further away from a company that insists on making decisions like this, if they so choose. Just seems like a needless lose-lose situation to me.
@Pod I wouldn't say the issue is fans not complying with US and Japan copyright guidelines, but more of Japan not complying with the US copyright guidelines. The many times Nintendo has taken people to court and lost due to a blatant ignorance of how US copyright law works is staggering, and it goes to show how out of touch the executives are with laws outside of their own country.
Let's be honest with ourselves, this is nothing more than Nintendo flexing their corporate muscles against so-called "piracy" because they have the power to do so and have done so since the beginning, even though it has never, at any time, affected their bottom line in the slightest and praising them for this sort of short-sighted behavior is nothing short of corporate brainwashing.
Three things:
1. You can't profit from other peoples work. So yes, take the music down. Even if there isn't advertising, you're still building your own following/reputation off the back of Nintendo which will be making money elsewhere - such as another video on your channel that does have advertising. Let's be clear here. You cannot buy this Nintendo music. These videos do not help generate sales for Nintendo like a video featuring a band's song could.
2. Nintendo should have the music available on their own channel. The fact they don't is truly moronic on their part. If they don't want it on YouTube, then fair enough, add it to the NSO subscription and Mobile App then? Add it to Spotify and Apple Music?
3. Why do YouTube always get off scot free? We are all way too forgiving of these ridiculous companies that are making insane amounts of money and are never held to account on copyright, racism - they do what they want and blame us!
@Kienda @Otoemetry I'd suspect that it doesn't actually benefit Nintendo.
It's like #FreeMelee. People are demanding for freebies and special treatment from Nintendo while also harbouring contempt towards them if they don't get their way. That's the route to a toxic fanbase, one who doesn't respect the creators, just the content.
I've listened to Nintendo music on the channel but at the same time I respect that it's not GilvaSunners, or Google's music.
If Nintendo was smarter, they would have created their own OST music YouTube channel by now and uploaded this music themselves, but... they are not that smart so we unfortunately pay the price for it. Honestly, this is so inconsiderate of them, is very frustrating! 😠
More will surface just like last time they did this.
Just saw that the guy claims he does not monetize the videos.
11 years. Thousands of videos. Significant following.
I do not believe him. Of course he is making money somewhere. Just because the music videos don't have an advert on them does not mean you have any right to them, or indeed are not profiting elsewhere off the back of your following.
1. Imagine you, yourself made this music.
2. You have decided you don't want it on YouTube (because you know not everyone thinks YouTube is a great thing / it's your choice as the owner of the work?!)
3. Why should someone else take your work and put it there instead?
Use whatever tools you deem necessary to download files of your favorite music, folks. That's the only way to guarantee that the music you like will continue to be available to you. That goes for a lot of subjects, honestly - corporations will never care about preserving their history and letting people enjoy their work, even just the music, unless they can make a profit.
@nocdaes Yet you don't have any evidence that he is monetizing those videos elsewhere and just have baseless accusations. Try having actual evidence before you make assumptions of someone's character next time.
1. Imagine music not being a source of revenue for your company so leaving it alone doesn't affect your bottom line in the slightest
2. Youtube is the largest video media website on the internet so why wouldn't you want your content on there for free publicity?
3. Imagine this thing called fair use existing in modern time that says that as long as you give full credit to the original creator of said content, you can upload that content and the original creators can even monetize from the video via copyright strike without taking it down.
They've taken down the Mother 3 soundtrack? Surely that means a Western release is incoming.
That is what glass half full people will infer anyway.
Nintendo are stingy and anti consumer as hell, they won't change unless it hurts their bank account, tweeting mean replays to them calling them this and that won't charge them
@Dirty0814 It's not theft you wet noodle. It's copyright infringement; totally different sets of crimes. If you're gonna come in here and be the Nintendo Defense Brigade, at least get it right.
people are so entitled. Nintendo owe you NOTHING!
They won't stop with YouTube videos. They'll end up striking the Downloads section of KHinsider.com, like SEGA did with most of their music, and all those Nintendo Soundtracks will be down, until we are forced to buy the music from Japan, or from eBay. Not to mention bring our Switch systems and be forced to listen to the music, only to have our Switches stolen.
I pretty much am reminded of the existence of Nintendo by their awesome music being everywhere. They are committing suicide by this. They live off community. In older times that would thrive in all kinds of unofficial ways. But these days it needs to be where people do their communication.
But that's okay, a company can do that if they wish. I'm simply going to forget about Nintendo slowly.
@piecez That's right. And we owe them nothing either. It's their right to kill all sense of community around their products, it really is. And then it's our right to say that this is what they are doing and be sad that it is so.
@piecez delicious corporate boot
Nintendo do release official soundtracks for many of their many major games. support Nintendo and the artist by purchasing the soundtrack.
If there are any games that dont have soundtracks released, a good community would contact Nintendo (or other dev/publisher) about making the OST available.
taking to YouTube and releasing other peoples property is not the behaviour of a fan. YouTube has clear guidelines about publishing content that isn't yours
So how long do we have until Nintendo starts taking down covers/remixes?
@Banjo- If they didn't have to stop people doing illegal things then they would have more time to make games.
What hurts the most is that this is one of the few places you could listen to music from obscure titles like Pictobits for DSi, which hasn't had its soundtrack pulled by Nintendo yet. There are also some people who make remixes of video game music, such as GaMetal, whose patrons provide YouTube links to the song they want a remix of, and that just got a lot more inconvenient for Nintendo fans.
Legally, Nintendo did nothing wrong, they own the copyright to their games, and that includes the soundtrack, you can't just upload other people's work on the internet, even if you are not getting money from this.
Morally, Nintendo is not in a position to complain when the soundtrack to their games is not on services like Spotify, sometimes their games get soundtrack CDs, but people don't care about those anymore, and those CDs often don't have the whole soundtrack, plus, these YouTubers are giving free advertisement to Nintendo's games so they could just ignore as long as they don't start sharing the actual games instead of just the soundtrack.
BOOOO! Unless they start a music service of there own this is a big L on their end
Nintendo is basically like Apple anyway, overcharge you for weaker hardware than the competition.
This is so sad.
Gilvasunner has been a trusted music uploader for years...
And now the channel is dead.
Nintendo is well within their rights to do this, but that doesn't necessarily make it the right solution.
Nintendo could've claimed the videos and earned money from them while still allowing them to stay up, or they could've started their own YouTube music channel. But they didn't.
I've bought video games before because the music was so good.
For music I really like I buy a CD soundtrack to support Nintendo or whatever other company the game is owned by and the composers.
But they don't offer soundtracks for most games, and the ones they do have I've had to import so they end up being really expensive.
I wish Nintendo would offer an alternative, because there is literally no way to listen to most of their music legally.
Especially when having the music available is actually a sort of advertisement. Judging by other comments, I'm not the only one to have bought games because of the music.
Why does Nintendo hate when people try to listen to the music from their games or even play old games, but then turn around and do nothing to address a clear market demand? Video game soundtracks seem to be a Japanese exclusive far too often. You keep shutting down emulators but the Switch online libraries grow at a snail's pace and completely at random (let's be real here, it should be a monthly thing). There is no virtual console on the Switch. You wouldn't need to pursue legal action if your freaking games/music were available to the public.
@Beep_Beep
Not to mention the few soundtracks for older games that are out of print and almost impossible to get your hands on.
“STOP LISTENING! JUST REMEMBER IT!” as someone else commented in the other article.
Really Nintendo is ridiculous and completely out of touch with their community. Unless these recent moves anticipate a special announcement or something.
I would actually pay an extra fee if they added an OST streaming service to NSO. I know I’m not the only one.
Not surprised Nintendo have not put OST on streaming platforms. The amount of money streaming platforms pay the artist is pathetic and Nintendo probably think it's not worth it. I don't blame them for not going down the streaming route.
When are they going to take down gameplay videos, to stay consistent?
Nintendo really wants piracy to hurt their profits at this point. They’re going to make the beast become real.
fortunately they don't have the power to shut down the good ol' torrent. Better keep the soundtracks on my dedicated drive then.
@Liam_Doolan this just appeared in my YouTube feed. Perhaps this was the reason why and Nintendo are actually doing smart for once?
https://imgur.com/gallery/5rTSz9F
@Ocaz piracy has always been there though. Wether people are downloading OST or listening on YouTube it's the same result which is Nintendo are not making money from it.
Plus remember Nintendo does offer a service for fans and that's to buy the CD's in Japan. YouTube is available in Japan so of course Nintendo are right to remove the videos. Anyone who says they wouldn't do the same when they have a product available to buy is lying.
@SuperZeldaFun
Cool to see Gilva being classy about it.
I get that Nintendo has every legal right to do this, but it seems like they are just killing off free publicity.
@Alpha008 @Savage_Joe That just isn't true Otherwise the 3DS and WiiU would have been monumentally successful and the Switch would have flopped since it released after Nintendo started taking stuff like these down.
I think the truth is that you enjoy the music more than Nintendo actually benefits from it being hosted on YouTube. This "its free advertising" is a flimsy argument, its not, its free entertainment for you.
People are only angry because its free entertainment being taken away from them. Much like when people get angry about ROM sites being taken down.
Hunt them down like dogs, Nintendo.
@victordamazio Copyright is a protection to make it illegal to make and share copies
What does copyright protect?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright
copyright infringement is still not theft.
Couldn't be farther from the FACTS-that is THEFT stop trying to muddy the water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement
ReRead these before making wrong bonehead comments. In both of these protections it's the content holder aka Nintendo that makes the decision not Youtube poster that decide what they can do with Nintendo TradeMarks. Does not matter if there is any momentary gifts or benefits to a 3rd party.
More reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark
@SwitchForce https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/principles-of-cybercrime/criminal-copyright-infringement/A4D0944E489FFE46A0103CE55593A4C2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#%22Theft%22
In copyright law, infringement does not refer to theft of physical objects that take away the owner's possession, but an instance where a person exercises one of the exclusive rights of the copyright holder without authorization.
"interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud. The Copyright Act even employs a separate term of art to define one who misappropriates a copyright: '[...] an infringer of the copyright.'"
You can try to dice all you want Nintendo holds the CopyRight and TradeMark. That is a FACT saying otherwise is disingenuous already. Remember they don't have exclusive rights otherwise inform us whom gave them that exclusive right. Certainly not Nintendo.
NOOOO not GilvaSunner! Nintendo would make a lot of money by just putting high quality OSTs on Spotify or something, but they aren't. Capcom did this, and now I can listen to Street Fighter music while also giving them money. Putting all their music on Spotify would be like free money. They'd probably make a million dollars overnight.
@cheetahman91
I think there was originally a SilvaGunner which got deleted. Then, this person in the article made GilvaSunner which will soon be deleted. It appears as if they're moving on, hopefully someone else makes a new channel for all of the Nintendo game soundtracks.
Even Disney puts their own music on youtube. Nintendo should be more forward thinking.
@SwitchForce And my point stands, copyright infringement is illegal, Nintendo owns the copyright to their games, but copyright infringement is not theft.
Their marketing management sucks. Lol. They are lucky to have some wonderful titles on their name.
So.... It might actually not be Nintendo doing it, but someone impersonating Nintendo!?
https://twitter.com/SolScribbles/status/1489417889232916480?t=DDZSTEiVDqkrmcEWSql6dg&s=19
@Ttim3r I knew it! I knew it was a fake, it’s exactly what happened last time.
Very sad. Hopefully he comes back under another name, or other people will take up the mantel. There will always be people uploading game-music, thank goodness for that!
@SeantheDon29
While I'd generally agree that Nintendo are unlikely to lose money from their music being included in YouTube videos, as a general thing, neither of us can say for sure what their internal schematics for upholding brand value look like.
And, while US copyright law might function a certain way, other countries that are not the US and Japan might have yet another set of laws. For instance laws that deem certain media to be considered public domain, if the original holder doesn't make rights claims against perpetrators.
In other words, if Nintendo DIDN'T police YouTube content, they'd lose their rights by default in many other places.
I don't celebrate Nintendo for corporate flexing. I don't blame them for protecting their property either. I also don't worry much about videos being taken down. They can be put back up elsewhere, or they can be retooled to not use Nintendo music.
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