Haters gonna hate. I can't live without motion controls when aiming (unless using mouse). That's why I switched to PC back then when they introduced the R Stick and shooter games on the PS2. Then switched back to console gaming with the Wii U.
It looks good to me as a digital only buyer. I get 40% off a full retail game (50-60€) if I buy 2x 49.99€ on the eShop? That's a 16-24€ savings discount if I spend 100€.
@Mister_Wu For marketing perspective, it's better if they go with a new name for "new features". Have they kept the old one, it'll be difficult to communicate what's new and what's the difference from the old one.
@Harmunt It has always been tied to your NNID account. Thing is, your NNID is tied to one home console or/and one handheld console at a time until you transfer to another hardware or until Nintendo allows you to link it to another hardware (without system transfer).
@Moon
I'm pretty sure Miyamoto, Iwata and co reiterated many times in the past that touch controls can never replace physical buttons in terms of responsiveness that's why they're not bringing their console games, save for a few exceptions maybe, to smartphones. You're a fool just like the rest if you actually believed that it's the actual NX controller.
@Damo I agree with you how awesome the Wii remote is especially on Skyward Sword, Wii Sports Club and Metroid Prime trilogy.
As for the gamepad, I love the gyro controls. In fact I can't stand any game that doesn't use gyro for aiming. One big reason why I chose the Wii U over the PS4. It's either gyro, or I'll just play with mouse/keyboard on my gaming laptop.
@Vee_Flames
He didn't say Star Fox will be delayed. He said "it could possibly be delayed" due to NoE staff not happy with the controls (too difficult) that they ask it to be fixed (adjusted). That's what I remember from the Nintendo Life article.
@RandomBlue There's a season pass for both but there is also "Legends characters pack" for the Wii U and a separate season pass for weapons (not sure). Check the previous article again or go to the Nintendo site. It's a bit confusing.
@Goob Don't compare Ubisoft prices because we all know Nintendo don't slash their prices until they release the "Nintendo Selects" version. That's why if you want to buy a Nintendo game (digitally), it's better to buy at launch instead waiting for 2-3 years for a sale or permanent price drop. On the other hand, it's the reverse reason why some of us who can wait, wait for Ubisoft games a few months after launch to go on sale. Same on Steam, gamers just wait for Steam sale before they buy a game. It's a good business strategy in Nintendo's part if you ask me.
With that out of the way, let's go to pricing between 3DS and Wii U. A typical retail Wii U game is 60$ or 60€. A 3DS game is 40/45$ or Euros. I believe Hyrule U is 50€ (not sure about US) and not 60€, plus season pass (20€?). Hyrule Legends 3DS is a packaged of the Wii U game and its season pass, thus it's 40€. They can't price it more because you know, Nintendo set a pricing on their 3DS games to 40-45€ max (season pass/DLC aside).
So yeah, it's a fair price imo because they are only following their pricing structure for each platform. They're not ripping us off. BUT, I agree with you that they should reduce the cost of the Wii U version now (or soon). I'm actually waiting for a sale so I'll download the Wii U version. I can easily get the disc version for 25€ new on my local store but I prefer digital downloads on games I want to keep.
@Goob
Because the Wii U version is still in the current gen and has not been offered as Selects. They also needed to sell the 3DS version. There's also difference on pricing between handheld and home console games (40$ vs 60$). Development cost is higher than porting cost. Etc etc.
@Goob And you guys were praising the contents on the Wii U version back then. Just because they added more contents on a downgraded port on the 3DS, you'll just have to forget everything and call it a ripoff?
@Hordak
I could also argue that your physical games are gone for good and you'll need to buy again if they broke or got lost but you can redownload if it's digital.
Nintendo needs a better account system on the NX for sure.
@DiscoStew
"As an American, I believe that Americans simply want what the Japanese have, but disregard what the Japanese actually think. From this feedback, my understand would be that if given the choice, the Japanese would accept the changes in the first place. So, why can't the Americans? Because they believe it's censorship, and censorship is always bad? Perish the thought!"
I pulled out all my upvotes in this article and gave them to you!
@ThomasBW84 "Do My Nintendo rewards change your perspective on retail downloads? "
Not a jot, I'll carry on with my usual eShop spending habits
I think it goes both ways for those who preferred physical and those who preferred digital. As someone who prefer digital downloads, I chose this option. Maybe others like me too? I'm not sure how it'll affect your conclusion when you write the follow up editorial/article on this one.
Physical, digital, they're the same to me. You just have to choose if you want them all in one physical hard drive or multiple discs. I prefer digital as I can redownload them. And when servers go down? I'll have a different console by then and mostly those old games are already out dated I'll be buying their remakes/remasters.
If your Wii U breaks down, your physical discs will be useless if you can't buy another Wii U in 10 years. At least with digital, there's a chance you can redownload through backwards compatible NX? I hope!
@Einherjar Then there's your answer. They'd rather deal with this petty controversy which they think they can handle than deal with another controversy plus a bad review and reputation on the game if they won't adjust/fix it base on earlier feedback.
@Einherjar Then let the devs and publishers do what they think it's appropriate for their target audience. They can't please everybody but they know it'll serve them better if they choose to omit some of the inappropriate features in their games than deal with a controversy later.
@Einherjar Not really. If you're making a product that is for everyone, you can't include something "optional" that is inappropriate to some and not take a blame when these contents are accessed by them accidentally or purposely.
@Dezzy The developers decided base on the EARLY feedback. It's the developers' CALL to ignore it or to make changes out if it. The way I read your response is they should poll the Western fans on a game that has yet to be released? How would they do it? How could they reach all the potential customers' feedback? No way I'd want the vocal minority in the internet decide for the devs.
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Re: Talking Point: Considering the Possibility of the Nintendo NX Having Virtual Reality Features
VR is the future of porn. And VR porn will save the future of the "VR gaming industry".
Re: Three New Titles Have Been Added to the Humble Friends of Nintendo Bundle
@the-madprofessor
Hey thanks for the code!
Re: Callie and Marie Join a New Splatoon amiibo Range on 8th July
I need these in my squid life!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE @WiltonRoots
I was about to say inb4 Sligeach.
Re: Competitive Super Smash Bros. Scene in Spain Prepares to Ban Bayonetta
@Nowi
Who cares what they say as long as you're not cheating or using a glitch.
Re: Competitive Super Smash Bros. Scene in Spain Prepares to Ban Bayonetta
I don't have a problem since I'm not into competitive scenes. If they deemed her OP, then let them decide how they run their tournament.
Re: Nintendo Files a New Patent for a Fancy Object Detection Device
@TheDavyStar
Maybe NX won't include it yet to keep the cost down. Then they'll release New Nintendo NX with this feature built in.
Re: Soapbox: No, Star Fox Zero's Controls Are not Bad or Broken
Haters gonna hate. I can't live without motion controls when aiming (unless using mouse). That's why I switched to PC back then when they introduced the R Stick and shooter games on the PS2. Then switched back to console gaming with the Wii U.
Re: Looks Like Nintendo's Familiar Red And White Branding Is Back For Good
The imminent return of the king.
Re: Miitomo Romps Past The One Million Installs Mark On Android
Miitomo = Skynet
-Kyle Reese
Re: Feature: Breaking Down the My Nintendo Loyalty Economy, Again
It looks good to me as a digital only buyer. I get 40% off a full retail game (50-60€) if I buy 2x 49.99€ on the eShop? That's a 16-24€ savings discount if I spend 100€.
Re: Talking Point: My Nintendo and Its Account System Start The Process of Unifying Platforms
@Mister_Wu
For marketing perspective, it's better if they go with a new name for "new features". Have they kept the old one, it'll be difficult to communicate what's new and what's the difference from the old one.
Re: Talking Point: My Nintendo and Its Account System Start The Process of Unifying Platforms
@Harmunt
It has always been tied to your NNID account. Thing is, your NNID is tied to one home console or/and one handheld console at a time until you transfer to another hardware or until Nintendo allows you to link it to another hardware (without system transfer).
Re: Enhanced Digital Store With Over 2,000 Games Launching Alongside My Nintendo This Week
@Warruz
It's cool and all but nah. Begging, hacking, unauthorized gifting and more would ruin it.
Re: Nintendo Download: 31st March (Europe)
No downloads until My Nintendo for me.
Re: Guide: Which Nintendo 3DS or 2DS System Should I Buy?
@Moon
But they are saying over at Pushsquare that the Vita is the best handheld ever.
I upvoted you by the way. Now bring those GBA and DS games on the N3DS eShop Nintendo!
Re: Fooling The World With a 3D Printed NX Controller
@Moon
I'm pretty sure Miyamoto, Iwata and co reiterated many times in the past that touch controls can never replace physical buttons in terms of responsiveness that's why they're not bringing their console games, save for a few exceptions maybe, to smartphones. You're a fool just like the rest if you actually believed that it's the actual NX controller.
Re: Nintendo NX 'Controller' Image Confirmed Fake By Its Creator
Serves those who came rushing to hate Nintendo and won't buy the NX right.
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo Was Wrong To Turn Its Back On The Wii Remote
@Damo
I agree with you how awesome the Wii remote is especially on Skyward Sword, Wii Sports Club and Metroid Prime trilogy.
As for the gamepad, I love the gyro controls. In fact I can't stand any game that doesn't use gyro for aiming. One big reason why I chose the Wii U over the PS4. It's either gyro, or I'll just play with mouse/keyboard on my gaming laptop.
Re: More Official Pokémon Go Gameplay Details Emerge
@Spin
I thought it was mentioned that Windows 10 phones will be able to run Android OS?
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo NX Controller Images Surface and Set the Web Alight
@Vee_Flames
He didn't say Star Fox will be delayed. He said "it could possibly be delayed" due to NoE staff not happy with the controls (too difficult) that they ask it to be fixed (adjusted). That's what I remember from the Nintendo Life article.
Re: North American Pricing Confirmed for Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC and Season Pass
@RandomBlue
There's a season pass for both but there is also "Legends characters pack" for the Wii U and a separate season pass for weapons (not sure). Check the previous article again or go to the Nintendo site. It's a bit confusing.
Re: North American Pricing Confirmed for Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC and Season Pass
@RandomBlue
You can get the characters on the Wii U with some weapons through the Wii U's second season pass without buying any of the 3DS version.
Re: North American Pricing Confirmed for Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC and Season Pass
@Goob
Don't compare Ubisoft prices because we all know Nintendo don't slash their prices until they release the "Nintendo Selects" version. That's why if you want to buy a Nintendo game (digitally), it's better to buy at launch instead waiting for 2-3 years for a sale or permanent price drop. On the other hand, it's the reverse reason why some of us who can wait, wait for Ubisoft games a few months after launch to go on sale. Same on Steam, gamers just wait for Steam sale before they buy a game. It's a good business strategy in Nintendo's part if you ask me.
With that out of the way, let's go to pricing between 3DS and Wii U. A typical retail Wii U game is 60$ or 60€. A 3DS game is 40/45$ or Euros. I believe Hyrule U is 50€ (not sure about US) and not 60€, plus season pass (20€?). Hyrule Legends 3DS is a packaged of the Wii U game and its season pass, thus it's 40€. They can't price it more because you know, Nintendo set a pricing on their 3DS games to 40-45€ max (season pass/DLC aside).
So yeah, it's a fair price imo because they are only following their pricing structure for each platform. They're not ripping us off. BUT, I agree with you that they should reduce the cost of the Wii U version now (or soon). I'm actually waiting for a sale so I'll download the Wii U version. I can easily get the disc version for 25€ new on my local store but I prefer digital downloads on games I want to keep.
Re: North American Pricing Confirmed for Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC and Season Pass
@Goob
Because the Wii U version is still in the current gen and has not been offered as Selects. They also needed to sell the 3DS version. There's also difference on pricing between handheld and home console games (40$ vs 60$). Development cost is higher than porting cost. Etc etc.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Beats Digimon to Number One in Japan and Boosts Wii U Sales
@Grumblevolcano
The bump is probably because of the Pokken Wii U bundles. I expect sales to be back at 2K next week.
Re: North American Pricing Confirmed for Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC and Season Pass
@Goob
And you guys were praising the contents on the Wii U version back then. Just because they added more contents on a downgraded port on the 3DS, you'll just have to forget everything and call it a ripoff?
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Fan Translation Project Shuts Up Shop
@Einherjar
There are other reasons bigger than videogames why I've been thinking of learning Japanese actually.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Fan Translation Project Shuts Up Shop
I'll just go learn Japanese if I want to be bothered by regional and localization differences.
Re: Feature: Ten Game Boy Advance Games You Should Play
Fire Emblem, Minish Cap, and Golden Sun.
Re: Version 1.4.0 of Wii U Emulator, Cemu, Shows More Rapid Progress
@Kalmaro
It's better to say they won't pirate it nor share it than say they will, avoiding further questions and annoyances.
Re: Miitomo Passed One Million Downloads in Just Three Days
Come on release it already this week!
Re: Nintendo Download: 24th March (Europe)
@Mario-Man-Child
On another Wii or the Wii on your Wii U? If you transfer it to your Wii U's Wii, you'll just pay for the upgrade cost.
Re: Nintendo Download: 24th March (Europe)
No downloads for me until My Nintendo rewards program kicks in.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Has a Super Effective Launch in the UK Charts
@OorWullie @ricklongo
Thanks! I haven't thought of that. That means The Division and UFC sold more than twice as much as Pokken in the all format.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Has a Super Effective Launch in the UK Charts
How did it managed to be 3rd in all format then fifth in the single format?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
@Zadaris
Splatoon is 39.99€ not 60€. It was 36€ for those who participated in the first global testfire.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
@Grumblevolcano
Eh, the XB1 wanted you to connect to the Internet once a day else you can't play games on it. That was the main reason of the fallout.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
@SupremeAllah
Because they don't want to undercut the retailers who sells their games in physical form.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
@kobashi100
Don't get so hung up on Nintendo's past mistakes. I believe they'll do better on the NX.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
@Hordak
I could also argue that your physical games are gone for good and you'll need to buy again if they broke or got lost but you can redownload if it's digital.
Nintendo needs a better account system on the NX for sure.
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@DiscoStew
"As an American, I believe that Americans simply want what the Japanese have, but disregard what the Japanese actually think. From this feedback, my understand would be that if given the choice, the Japanese would accept the changes in the first place. So, why can't the Americans? Because they believe it's censorship, and censorship is always bad? Perish the thought!"
I pulled out all my upvotes in this article and gave them to you!
Re: Poll: Are You Ready to Download More of Your Retail Games From the eShop?
@ThomasBW84
"Do My Nintendo rewards change your perspective on retail downloads? "
Not a jot, I'll carry on with my usual eShop spending habits
I think it goes both ways for those who preferred physical and those who preferred digital. As someone who prefer digital downloads, I chose this option. Maybe others like me too? I'm not sure how it'll affect your conclusion when you write the follow up editorial/article on this one.
Re: Poll: Are You Ready to Download More of Your Retail Games From the eShop?
Physical, digital, they're the same to me. You just have to choose if you want them all in one physical hard drive or multiple discs. I prefer digital as I can redownload them. And when servers go down? I'll have a different console by then and mostly those old games are already out dated I'll be buying their remakes/remasters.
If your Wii U breaks down, your physical discs will be useless if you can't buy another Wii U in 10 years. At least with digital, there's a chance you can redownload through backwards compatible NX? I hope!
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@Einherjar
Then there's your answer. They'd rather deal with this petty controversy which they think they can handle than deal with another controversy plus a bad review and reputation on the game if they won't adjust/fix it base on earlier feedback.
Re: Nintendo Announces Separate Hyrule Warriors Season Passes for Wii U and 3DS
Yup, more complaining. I'm just glad after they're done with the Wii U, they're giving us the option to expand the roster further
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@Einherjar
Then let the devs and publishers do what they think it's appropriate for their target audience. They can't please everybody but they know it'll serve them better if they choose to omit some of the inappropriate features in their games than deal with a controversy later.
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@Einherjar
Not really. If you're making a product that is for everyone, you can't include something "optional" that is inappropriate to some and not take a blame when these contents are accessed by them accidentally or purposely.
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@Dezzy
The developers decided base on the EARLY feedback. It's the developers' CALL to ignore it or to make changes out if it. The way I read your response is they should poll the Western fans on a game that has yet to be released? How would they do it? How could they reach all the potential customers' feedback? No way I'd want the vocal minority in the internet decide for the devs.
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@Dezzy
So we let the "fans" decide instead of the developers? JUST NO.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Demo Comes Out Fighting On The European Wii U eShop
No options for "I haven't tried the demo yet" so I went with the last option.