I agree with @faint. You also gotta realise that you're not locked behind the content you paid for. The bundle that includes the amiibo costs 60 bucks which is the full price norm for a retail game. And you'll need the amiibo to link it to Zelda U.
@PlywoodStick The TP HD afaik is good enough for me considering the limited GPU power of the Wii U. It could have been better if the Wii U had better specs. Here's the Wii U vs Wii comparison I came across randomly: http://m.imgur.com/a/J1fOc
Also we don't know anything what features they added in the TP HD aside from the Nintendo Direct reveal and these rumours.
@PlywoodStick No offense to the modding community but the last fan-made TP HD that was featured here was ugly even with its high-res textures. It doesn't look right. And many of us don't bother about these mods as we prefer the official thing.
Also, most gamers would have already moved on to the next console by then. Only retro gamers like you wouldn't. but hey, maybe someone will hack the game to unlock the amiibo dungeon by then.
@PlywoodStick It doesn't matter what happens 5 years from now though. Nintendo won't care. By that time TP HD sales at the 5th year won't matter as it may already reached the numbers Nintendo is expecting by its 3rd year. By then new Zelda games would already been released or is about to be released. We could even get the NX succesor by then. Or TP 4K HD is already on the works that doesn't require an amiibo.
@PlywoodStick Don't twist my words. I am referring to publishers meeting customer demands "judging on sales". If remasters of old games sell, it's on the publisher's judgement to make more of these remasters because there's a market for it. Look how many remasters we got across different platforms this gen.
Also those burgers? Do they sell (in quantity) as much as normal priced burgers (top sellers) though? That was my point. TP HD amiibo bundle is priced within the norm of full retail Nintendo games. I've never seen an amiibo bundled game that went beyond 60USD or 60€.
@TwilightAngel
If you've played it before, then why the hell would you play it again if it's not worth for you? OCD much? It's for those who are willing to pay and play it (again).
@Yorumi That's you're perspective and I respect that. But I don't like TP Wii controls, I love WWHD gamepad and gyro controls (no gyro aiming, no buy coming from mouse + keyboard), graphics isn't on par with Skyward Sword, and I like my collectible amiibos. Plus I'm only paying 50 bucks for it with the amiibo + soundtrack CD. So I guess that makes it 40 bucks price point limit for remasters of yours if you remove the extras? You see, there are other factors that makes a game on a specific machine worth it.
@Yorumi
So are we here to talk about TP HD or the Wii U? As I said, for someone like me who haven't played TP before, this one is definitely worth my money. So is Splatoon, XCX and select games I bought for my Wii U. Also fyi before you think I'm a Nintendo diehard, Wii U is my first Nintendo console since the NES (I've played SNES before on my friends' before I went PC gaming). New 3DS is also my first handheld but I barely play with it.
@Yorumi Your burger analogy is way off though. Is there a business that sells 10000$ burger that actually sells? Selling TPHD at 60$ bundled and 50$ (or less) will sell though and its reasonable within the price norm. It doesn't matter if it's only a texture swap, we don't know anything they've added yet. But there's gamepad inventory management, probably gyro aiming which is huge to me, miiverse, new dungeon, and more. It's still a full game and its worth it for those who haven't played the GC/Wii versions.
@Yorumi But this is a full game especially for those who haven't played it before. Should Nintendo price it cheap because it's a remaster of an old game? I can understand those of you who have played the old versions before, but I can also understand Nintendo as a business corporation. In Nintendo's perspective, what's the point of rereleasing these games if you don't make a profit out of it? Why should they undervalue it when it offers a full retail game for those who haven't played it and for those who wanted to play it again?
The amiibo price is irrelevant because at bundled price, it's the same as any other full game out there remastered or not. You're not being nickle and dimed. If the asking price is not worth for you who already played the older versions, then you could wait for a heavy discount. Thing is, some would still complain even if they get the standalone game for half the price because the amiibo (DLC/unlock) is 13$ and they're thinking the DLC is not worth 13$. That's not the point though. The unlock is an extra for those who buy the amiibo which can be use in Zelda U and other games.
@electrolite77
Then they should wait for a sale when they think it's what it's worth. I usually do that on other games that's not in my priority or not worth the asking price. I wait for a sale.
Would you prefer to pay 60$ for TPHD with all extras WITHOUT the amiibo and soundtrack or pay 60$ WITH the amiibo and the soundtrack? You guys are looking at it the wrong way..
Wind Waker HD was full priced without amiibo and it didn't get this level of criticism of TP HD. Some of you are just here to hate on the amiibo.
@ThomasBW84
You get EXTRA contents (amiibo and soundtrack) for a full retail price (less if you get discounts). In another perspective, you still get the FULL experience at full retail price. I don't get the complaints.
Why are you complaining on the amiibo? The game is complete, you just get an extra on the amiibo. Plus Nintendo is charging 60 $ or € with the amiibo and soundtrack bundled, and NOT 60 bucks without. If Nintendo is "greedy", they would have charged full retail price without the amiibo and the soundtrack.
Also the point of amiibo is to give extra contents. Get over it. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is charging no more than 50 dollars or Euros for the game only which is below the full retail price.
@abe_hikura
Get it on Amazon DE, ES, FR, or IT. I think European Limited Edition Nintendo games have the same packaging and box art. I've bought some LEs from different sites and they have all these standard boxarts which contains all languages. (Usually English on the artbooks if not multilanguage)
If NXes will have the same OS for handheld and home console, hardware sales per iteration won't matter since Nintendo could release hardware every time there's a need to like every two or three years. It's the number of install base that matters. It's like iPad 1, 2, air, mini, iPhone 123456, Samsung S1233556, etc. They can all play old "versions" of games in the newer devices with some few restrictions depending on the OS version and hardware capabilities supported by these games.
@PlywoodStick Ironically, I don't blame the media for bringing up things like these to their readers. It's what brings interests/clicks. They are just catering to our "needs". I still blame the internet and those who go apesh*t on things like this.
Back when there's no internet, gamers wouldn't know (most of the time) if the game was censored or not. They criticised games for its gameplay and story and not if it was censored. I say I blame the internet for all these. Just go buy and play the game. It's phenomenal.
@SahashraLA
It doesn't matter, all 3DS forms play the same games. To be fair, PS4 have PS4 500 GB chassis C, 1TB chassis C, chassis B 500 gb, and chassis B 1TB.
@Kirk I guess you're cool after all those negativities towards Nintendo. anyway some see the story as something they should do/emulate to find their own soulmates. It's not. It just happened to @Elijah_and_Lisa and they shared it here. If they go looking for one through Mario Kart, then it won't be called fate.
@Mogster
That would require them to "remake" the game (which cost more time and money) to include split screen instead of porting it with slight changes. The game is design this way. I wish they'll include local multiplayer requiring two Wii Us and two TVs connected via LAN/WiFi though for tournament purposes not requiring internet.
@Fazermint
This game is a port of an arcade game that uses two arcade cabinets two play multiplayer. Each screen changes in perspective depending on the situation, so yeah, you can't play local multiplayer on the same TV/screen as it's designed differently.
Just be thankful we got local multiplayer with the gamepad + tv. Else it could be online only.
@Sligeach Or maybe Nintendo doesn't want to "steal" 3rd parties' moment to sell on their holiday sale?
Personally, I'd be more inclined to buy Nintendo games if they go on sale because it's a rare occurrence. Now, I'll just settle to buy the 3rd party games I like that's on sale.
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Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: Twilight Princess HD amiibo Dungeon, Pokémon Yellow 2DS
@Jamotello
+1
It's not okay for others to lock on-disc content but it's okay if it's locked behind the servers ready to be downloaded. LOL
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: Twilight Princess HD amiibo Dungeon, Pokémon Yellow 2DS
@cleveland124 @FierceRagnar
I agree with @faint. You also gotta realise that you're not locked behind the content you paid for. The bundle that includes the amiibo costs 60 bucks which is the full price norm for a retail game. And you'll need the amiibo to link it to Zelda U.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@PlywoodStick
The TP HD afaik is good enough for me considering the limited GPU power of the Wii U. It could have been better if the Wii U had better specs. Here's the Wii U vs Wii comparison I came across randomly:
http://m.imgur.com/a/J1fOc
Also we don't know anything what features they added in the TP HD aside from the Nintendo Direct reveal and these rumours.
Re: Feature: Five Alternative Nintendo Reveals and Releases We're Interested in for 2016
@rjejr
Where's my Luigi's Mansion HD and Sunshine HD Nintendo?
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@PlywoodStick
No offense to the modding community but the last fan-made TP HD that was featured here was ugly even with its high-res textures. It doesn't look right. And many of us don't bother about these mods as we prefer the official thing.
Also, most gamers would have already moved on to the next console by then. Only retro gamers like you wouldn't. but hey, maybe someone will hack the game to unlock the amiibo dungeon by then.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@PlywoodStick
It doesn't matter what happens 5 years from now though. Nintendo won't care. By that time TP HD sales at the 5th year won't matter as it may already reached the numbers Nintendo is expecting by its 3rd year. By then new Zelda games would already been released or is about to be released. We could even get the NX succesor by then. Or TP 4K HD is already on the works that doesn't require an amiibo.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@PlywoodStick
Don't twist my words. I am referring to publishers meeting customer demands "judging on sales". If remasters of old games sell, it's on the publisher's judgement to make more of these remasters because there's a market for it. Look how many remasters we got across different platforms this gen.
Also those burgers? Do they sell (in quantity) as much as normal priced burgers (top sellers) though? That was my point. TP HD amiibo bundle is priced within the norm of full retail Nintendo games. I've never seen an amiibo bundled game that went beyond 60USD or 60€.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@TwilightAngel
If you've played it before, then why the hell would you play it again if it's not worth for you? OCD much? It's for those who are willing to pay and play it (again).
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@Yorumi
That's you're perspective and I respect that. But I don't like TP Wii controls, I love WWHD gamepad and gyro controls (no gyro aiming, no buy coming from mouse + keyboard), graphics isn't on par with Skyward Sword, and I like my collectible amiibos. Plus I'm only paying 50 bucks for it with the amiibo + soundtrack CD. So I guess that makes it 40 bucks price point limit for remasters of yours if you remove the extras? You see, there are other factors that makes a game on a specific machine worth it.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Will be Picking Fights on 18th March
@Oubie @ThomasBW84
There's actually a rumor that Star Fox will be delayed to June/July according to a French ad. LOL
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@Yorumi
So are we here to talk about TP HD or the Wii U? As I said, for someone like me who haven't played TP before, this one is definitely worth my money. So is Splatoon, XCX and select games I bought for my Wii U. Also fyi before you think I'm a Nintendo diehard, Wii U is my first Nintendo console since the NES (I've played SNES before on my friends' before I went PC gaming). New 3DS is also my first handheld but I barely play with it.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@Yorumi
Your burger analogy is way off though. Is there a business that sells 10000$ burger that actually sells? Selling TPHD at 60$ bundled and 50$ (or less) will sell though and its reasonable within the price norm. It doesn't matter if it's only a texture swap, we don't know anything they've added yet. But there's gamepad inventory management, probably gyro aiming which is huge to me, miiverse, new dungeon, and more. It's still a full game and its worth it for those who haven't played the GC/Wii versions.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@Yorumi
But this is a full game especially for those who haven't played it before. Should Nintendo price it cheap because it's a remaster of an old game? I can understand those of you who have played the old versions before, but I can also understand Nintendo as a business corporation. In Nintendo's perspective, what's the point of rereleasing these games if you don't make a profit out of it? Why should they undervalue it when it offers a full retail game for those who haven't played it and for those who wanted to play it again?
The amiibo price is irrelevant because at bundled price, it's the same as any other full game out there remastered or not. You're not being nickle and dimed. If the asking price is not worth for you who already played the older versions, then you could wait for a heavy discount. Thing is, some would still complain even if they get the standalone game for half the price because the amiibo (DLC/unlock) is 13$ and they're thinking the DLC is not worth 13$. That's not the point though. The unlock is an extra for those who buy the amiibo which can be use in Zelda U and other games.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@electrolite77
Then vote with your wallet. Nintendo will judge by the number of sales. If this thing sells though, then you're in the minority.
Edit:
I've never played Twilight Princess though. So this game is worth it for me, even more with the amiibo and extras.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Modes and Details Emerge
"LAN Support - Link two Wii U's for a 60fps local match."
Are you happy now?
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@electrolite77
Then they should wait for a sale when they think it's what it's worth. I usually do that on other games that's not in my priority or not worth the asking price. I wait for a sale.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@PlywoodStick
You could wait for price drops? You could wait for amiibo restock and price drop as well. I don't see the difference.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@electrolite77
You pay full price with the game and amiibo and soundtrack, you get full and extra contents. I don't see a problem with that.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@electrolite77
They are selling the game at a discounted price without the amiibo. What's your point?
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@Yorumi @PlywoodStick @rjejr and others
Would you prefer to pay 60$ for TPHD with all extras WITHOUT the amiibo and soundtrack or pay 60$ WITH the amiibo and the soundtrack? You guys are looking at it the wrong way..
Wind Waker HD was full priced without amiibo and it didn't get this level of criticism of TP HD. Some of you are just here to hate on the amiibo.
Edit:
I'm not referring to anyone in particular.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
@ThomasBW84
You get EXTRA contents (amiibo and soundtrack) for a full retail price (less if you get discounts). In another perspective, you still get the FULL experience at full retail price. I don't get the complaints.
Re: Talking Point: Considering amiibo Features and the Reality of 'Physical DLC'
Why are you complaining on the amiibo? The game is complete, you just get an extra on the amiibo. Plus Nintendo is charging 60 $ or € with the amiibo and soundtrack bundled, and NOT 60 bucks without. If Nintendo is "greedy", they would have charged full retail price without the amiibo and the soundtrack.
Also the point of amiibo is to give extra contents. Get over it. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is charging no more than 50 dollars or Euros for the game only which is below the full retail price.
Re: Video: The Latest Monster Hunter Stories Trailer Makes Importing Even More Tempting
Turn-based? Yes please!
Re: Rumour: Twilight Princess HD to Feature Special amiibo Dungeon, Hero Mode and Touchscreen Inventory
@JaxonH
+1
Re: Rumour: Twilight Princess HD to Feature Special amiibo Dungeon, Hero Mode and Touchscreen Inventory
@abe_hikura
LOL I got confused. Ignore my comment.
Re: Rumour: Twilight Princess HD to Feature Special amiibo Dungeon, Hero Mode and Touchscreen Inventory
@abe_hikura
Get it on Amazon DE, ES, FR, or IT. I think European Limited Edition Nintendo games have the same packaging and box art. I've bought some LEs from different sites and they have all these standard boxarts which contains all languages. (Usually English on the artbooks if not multilanguage)
Re: Rumour: Twilight Princess HD to Feature Special amiibo Dungeon, Hero Mode and Touchscreen Inventory
Makes sense. Now I wonder what carries over to Zelda U that'll be on that dungeon.
Re: Satoru Iwata to Receive Posthumous Lifetime Achievement Award at D.I.C.E.
@DarthNocturnal
So is Splatoon at launch. Don't get me wrong, I love Splatoon and I like how they drip-feed contents.
Re: Pokémon Red, Blue and Yellow 2DS Bundles Confirmed for Europe, New 3DS Bundle Coming to North America
@RupeeClock
Maybe we'll get a Link 2DS?
Also, dat yellow...
Re: Nintendo Download: 14th January (Europe)
Nothing...
Re: Here are Nintendo's Nominees for the Game Developer's Choice Awards
Splatoon for innovation award!
Re: Nintendo Download: 7th January (Europe)
I already have NSMBWii on disc. I'll buy the digital version when it goes on sale.
Re: Analysis: Assessing Why NX Needs to Take Over From Both the Wii U and 3DS
If NXes will have the same OS for handheld and home console, hardware sales per iteration won't matter since Nintendo could release hardware every time there's a need to like every two or three years. It's the number of install base that matters. It's like iPad 1, 2, air, mini, iPhone 123456, Samsung S1233556, etc. They can all play old "versions" of games in the newer devices with some few restrictions depending on the OS version and hardware capabilities supported by these games.
Re: Japanese Games Market Falls To Lowest Point In 26 Years, But Full Picture Remains Elusive
@kupocake
Except Xbox One, yeah.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Can Exploit Its Rich History With More Remasters
"No more remasters, give us new games!" in 3, 2, 1, ....
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X Voice Actress Is In Favour Of Lin's Western Costume Change
@PlywoodStick
Ironically, I don't blame the media for bringing up things like these to their readers. It's what brings interests/clicks. They are just catering to our "needs". I still blame the internet and those who go apesh*t on things like this.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X Voice Actress Is In Favour Of Lin's Western Costume Change
Back when there's no internet, gamers wouldn't know (most of the time) if the game was censored or not. They criticised games for its gameplay and story and not if it was censored. I say I blame the internet for all these. Just go buy and play the game. It's phenomenal.
Re: Nintendo Games Absent from UK Top 40 to Kick Off 2016
Xenoblade is a phenomenal game. Too complex for dudebro shooter/RPG gamers though.
Re: Feature: Five Key Reveals and Releases That Will Define Nintendo's 2016
@allav866 @Shiryu
Fire Emblem's 25th anniversary too. This year is gonna be great for Nintendo.
Re: Happy New Year from Nintendo Life
Happy New Year!
Re: Nintendo Dominates Festive Sales in Japan as 3DS and Wii U Lead the Way
@SahashraLA
It doesn't matter, all 3DS forms play the same games. To be fair, PS4 have PS4 500 GB chassis C, 1TB chassis C, chassis B 500 gb, and chassis B 1TB.
Re: Bowser And Donkey Kong Skylanders Superchargers amiibo Releasing In Cheaper Combo Packs
Oh those fake wannabe amiibos.
Re: Feature: How Mario Kart Brought Two Soul Mates Together
@Kirk
I guess you're cool after all those negativities towards Nintendo. anyway some see the story as something they should do/emulate to find their own soulmates. It's not. It just happened to @Elijah_and_Lisa and they shared it here. If they go looking for one through Mario Kart, then it won't be called fate.
Re: Japanese Hyrule Gold New 3DS LL Tying in with Hyrule Warriors Legends
Meanwhile in Europe...
Re: New Super Mario Bros. Wii Looks Set to Hit Europe on 7th January
I'll wait for a deal as I already have the disc. I want SM Galaxy 1 though.
Re: Yusuke Hashimoto Talks Star Fox Zero and Collaborating with Nintendo
@shigulicious
on the Wii U please! Then a remaster trilogy on the NX! also looking forward to the dual screen gameplay on Star Fox Zero.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Will Feature 2-Player Local Multiplayer
@Mogster
That would require them to "remake" the game (which cost more time and money) to include split screen instead of porting it with slight changes. The game is design this way. I wish they'll include local multiplayer requiring two Wii Us and two TVs connected via LAN/WiFi though for tournament purposes not requiring internet.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Will Feature 2-Player Local Multiplayer
@Fazermint
This game is a port of an arcade game that uses two arcade cabinets two play multiplayer. Each screen changes in perspective depending on the situation, so yeah, you can't play local multiplayer on the same TV/screen as it's designed differently.
Just be thankful we got local multiplayer with the gamepad + tv. Else it could be online only.
Re: Nintendo Download: 31st December (Europe)
@Sligeach
Or maybe Nintendo doesn't want to "steal" 3rd parties' moment to sell on their holiday sale?
Personally, I'd be more inclined to buy Nintendo games if they go on sale because it's a rare occurrence. Now, I'll just settle to buy the 3rd party games I like that's on sale.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Announces the Next Splatfest for the Region
@Randomname19 @Gameday
As @crimsontadpoles said if you watch the in-game intro, it's to get fit or to get rich as new year's resolution for 2016.