There is something that is kind of awesome about this. I can't help but wonder if the jungle/gibbon theme is creating what I like or if it was reskinned to a "cooler" IP I would like it more. For example: Would I like this better if it was Mario, or would I like it less???
Some folks are getting a little too doom and gloom over this. Honestly employees leave companies all the time after acquisitions like this and make other companies. It will be okay. Microsoft is pretty chill when working with other big 3. Sony not as much. Ironically, Nintendo is a locked box covered in cement.
Most of these acquisitions make sense on paper from a demographic standpoint. I will continue to buy the small indie games that speak to me.
As an artist in the games industry, I see them as a net neutral. Just like Free To Play, it is another monetary vehicle. Some people will hate some will find value. It is another form of the auction house in World of War craft. Players could use NFT's to sell a character or item that they have invested "x" amount of time into and actually get realworld money out of it. This will not speak to everyone. There will be abuses, and there will be winners. Overall, it is just another means to do transactions. Another example: imagine you purchased a bunch of cosmetics for a game that you loved, but just will never play again. You could potentially sell that digital content for money, like you would a physical copy.
Some people still hate Free to Play. Some only get free to play on their phone. I imagine NFTs, as they mature and figure out their stride, will have similar division in the future.
@anoyonmus Roger that. What I am saying as a developer in a the games industry for 20+ years, is that a producer that owns a brand and is contracting it out has total control of design, programming, marketing and art direction of their games. Pokémon Company just doesn't care enough to push harder. They know they have the biggest ip the world, and that folks will buy it regardless of the details.
@anoyonmus You are right... "Pokemon Company" (Nintendo, Game Freak, and Creatures) should take notice. If they are publishing they are well within their means to push Art Direction.
So friggin' solid. Game Freak take notice of what your remakes should have looked like... The art direction on this is air tight (pun mildly intended).
E3 wasn't relevant before this whole Covid thing.... why would we care now. I really only care for Nintendo Directs and honestly not even half of them.
That said, at some point we just need to move on with our lives. And some of ya'll (on both sides) are painting with some pretty broad strokes.
A curious novelty. I hope it works out for them and the backers. Not sure what you can do for 9K or 16K for that matter. Sounds more like a hobby that they wanted to do for themselves and decided that crowdfunding was the easiest way to get a product for themselves and if others buy it in the process, it is just icing on the cake.
Honestly, I think the art direction is pretty uninspired. Looks like the first place high school students go to make "serious/disturbed" designs. ....Sounds like it is fun though.
I feel like Cuphead is actually a half hour long game that the devs padded with friggin' hard gameplay to bloat it out. I need to give it another try but I don't feel like hating it any more. It is a remarkable achievement in art undoubtedly.
@Zenszulu Couldn't agree more. I stopped my subscription because I finally realized that I did't even play the NSO in its previous incarnation. The service really isn't competitive with other on the market. I think PS Now is phenomenal, maybe even too much so. I have a hard time justifying buying anything outside of it. I am not sure folks with an NSO subscription see that with every month that drips by, the cost of their subscription actually goes up with NSO. A person could wait two years and reap equal rewards to someone who waited and paid for a lackluster service in the meantime. Part of the value of services like Netflix and PS Now is also the cycling of content.
Battle of Olympus is heavily inspired by Zelda 2, and superior in every way, it is also a contemporary of 2. Those that love Zelda 2 should try Battle of Olympus out, it's great.
I love the strong opinions here, it's like fighting the worst flavor of ice cream. Good luck getting closure.
I'm an old timer and love Sting (have multiple albums of his and The Police), but he hasn't had radio play in 30 years. I understand having to explain him to this site's demographic. His new album has some great songs.
As an artist I could see where the hesitation could come from. Secondary colors like Orange, Green and Purple could be somewhat of a risk, albeit small. I really think the bigger thing was the handle...?....
With this many employees walking out they could make several other companies if they could "ironically" find the leadership. Riot made an empire from ex-Blizzard folks. I hope this works out for them.
This article is about as much press as this game will ever get. It is interesting how 99% of the games aesthetic has nothing to do with the Junior High art..... A master stroke in marketing.... I am amazed that I am even taking the time to talk about this otherwise forgettable shovelware.
@BloodNinja Roger that FWIW I'm all about folks getting credit for their work. I just can speak from personal experience that I've never sat through credits except for Marvel (and that wasn't to read off a litany of names). The best credits I've ever experienced were on a Super Monkey Ball game where I bowled over all the devs names.
I've been in the industry for a looong time now. It's funny to me that Mercury Steam has such a dumb policy. I also agree that credits are stupid too. I can tell you first hand after being involved with many many hires that NO ONE ever backchecks credits. It just isn't a thing. And for all of you crying for unions in the game industry, you'll are nuts. The game industry is so transient, it wouldn't accomplish what you are wanting, it would just line the pockets of some union leader that does nothing, make game creation way more expensive, and potentially strangle indies.
NSO was already pretty bad.... they should have augmented it from go. Especially, when the supporting controllers are $50 a pop. Apple already showed the path to defeated piracy. Nintendo, have fun spending money on whack a mole with ROM sites.
This is nowhere near the level of Link's Awakening's polish. That said, I am not offended by the visuals here. The only glaring issue is that they actually seem pretty inconsistent. The desert area looks pretty great, on the other hand, the mines and town are pretty phoned in. That is not to say they won't polish it more, but there are ways to keep the collison, layout and tone without copying one for one the mesh/sprite layout. My guess is that they have a mixed bag of talent levels of their environment artists.
The rendering on this is exquisite. I am blown away by all the crazy tech they are doing with their UI. Nintendo doesn't get enough credit for this kind of menu magic.
I want to love this so much, because I love beat em ups. However, everytime I try to play these types of BEU, Scott Pilgrim was similar, the enemies are such damage sponges. They feel so slow and grindy. SOR4 is waaay more my pace. It is a shame, because this game is gorgeous and has such a high sheen of grind. I need to go and try the first one, one more time...
If Konami pulls this off and gets a great game(s) out of this, they are getting the deal of a century. Asking a dev to make a game for 18K, is dirt cheap. I hope the devs can do it without great personal cost. Even a tiny indie game takes tremendous time and effort. Are they asking for a demo, I'm not clear on this? It looks like the competition ends with further development and polish. Konami could afford to have 10-20 "winners" at that cost, even with extra money they are planning to put in afterwards. In the end, maybe the consumer wins??? Maybe there is profit sharing with the devs?
@chipia I played Link Between Worlds, but don't remember the mana system tying into bombs and arrows? I'll have to rev it up again.
The graphics aren't great but they didn't drive me too crazy. Not enough to get turned away at least.
This is bigger news for me, personally, than the Direct! I loved the first one! This is awesome news. The first one cribbed from Zelda quite a bit, but I loved the narrative vehicle.
My only issue with any of this is that it feels like they went for star power (no pun intended) and not what the characters should sound like. Everyone can clutch pearls, or go to bat for Chris Pratt. Personally, I love him. I am just not sure his voice is going to work unless he pulls a Bradley Cooper (his Rocket was awesome, and didn't sound like him at all).
Like everyone said, probably too easy, but honestly something about this looks pretty awesome. It feels like a mix between Odyssey and Super Mario 3D World
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Re: Old Man's Journey Developer Unveils 'Gibbon: Beyond The Trees'
There is something that is kind of awesome about this. I can't help but wonder if the jungle/gibbon theme is creating what I like or if it was reskinned to a "cooler" IP I would like it more. For example: Would I like this better if it was Mario, or would I like it less???
Re: Soapbox: Don't Cheer For Corporate Takeovers - It's Not A Game
Some folks are getting a little too doom and gloom over this. Honestly employees leave companies all the time after acquisitions like this and make other companies. It will be okay. Microsoft is pretty chill when working with other big 3. Sony not as much. Ironically, Nintendo is a locked box covered in cement.
Most of these acquisitions make sense on paper from a demographic standpoint. I will continue to buy the small indie games that speak to me.
Re: Back Page: After Spending $70B On Activision Blizzard... What If Microsoft Buys Nintendo Next?
Funny read. Well done Kate.
Re: Netflix's 'The Cuphead Show' Gets Debut Trailer, Streaming Begins Next Month
Hmmm... actually looks waaay better than I was thinking it would.
Re: Talking Point: What Could NFTs Mean For Gaming, And Why Are They So Divisive?
@HedgehogEngine They are just another tool, that is all I am saying. For the most part it is opt in, and there will always be games that don't do it.
Re: Talking Point: What Could NFTs Mean For Gaming, And Why Are They So Divisive?
As an artist in the games industry, I see them as a net neutral. Just like Free To Play, it is another monetary vehicle. Some people will hate some will find value. It is another form of the auction house in World of War craft. Players could use NFT's to sell a character or item that they have invested "x" amount of time into and actually get realworld money out of it. This will not speak to everyone. There will be abuses, and there will be winners. Overall, it is just another means to do transactions. Another example: imagine you purchased a bunch of cosmetics for a game that you loved, but just will never play again. You could potentially sell that digital content for money, like you would a physical copy.
Some people still hate Free to Play. Some only get free to play on their phone. I imagine NFTs, as they mature and figure out their stride, will have similar division in the future.
Re: Kirby And The Forgotten Land Scores March Release Date, New Trailer Appears
@anoyonmus Roger that. What I am saying as a developer in a the games industry for 20+ years, is that a producer that owns a brand and is contracting it out has total control of design, programming, marketing and art direction of their games. Pokémon Company just doesn't care enough to push harder. They know they have the biggest ip the world, and that folks will buy it regardless of the details.
Re: Kirby And The Forgotten Land Scores March Release Date, New Trailer Appears
@anoyonmus You are right... "Pokemon Company" (Nintendo, Game Freak, and Creatures) should take notice. If they are publishing they are well within their means to push Art Direction.
Re: Kirby And The Forgotten Land Scores March Release Date, New Trailer Appears
So friggin' solid. Game Freak take notice of what your remakes should have looked like... The art direction on this is air tight (pun mildly intended).
Re: Talking Point: As Lifetime Switch Sales Jostle With The Mighty Wii, Can It Possibly Catch DS?
Every console has a second wind with the $100 price point. Depends if Nintendo can get it down to that price.
Re: Out Now: Dual Souls: The Last Bearer Brings Tactical Street Fighter-Inspired Action To Switch
Ooof.... that looks like a rough ride.
Re: E3 Is Going To Be Digital-Only Again This Year, Thanks To COVID-19
E3 wasn't relevant before this whole Covid thing.... why would we care now. I really only care for Nintendo Directs and honestly not even half of them.
That said, at some point we just need to move on with our lives. And some of ya'll (on both sides) are painting with some pretty broad strokes.
Re: New 'Capcom Creators' Program Offers Exclusive Incentives For Content Creators
@Specter_of-the_OLED 100%
Re: Review: Dungeon Munchies - Not Without Potential, But Also Serious Early Access Issues
Bummer...such a great idea.
Re: NES Action Shooter 'Copper Jacket' Hits Funding Goal On Kickstarter
A curious novelty. I hope it works out for them and the backers. Not sure what you can do for 9K or 16K for that matter. Sounds more like a hobby that they wanted to do for themselves and decided that crowdfunding was the easiest way to get a product for themselves and if others buy it in the process, it is just icing on the cake.
Re: GRIME Is A 'Soulslike Metroidvania' Heading To Switch Next Summer
Honestly, I think the art direction is pretty uninspired. Looks like the first place high school students go to make "serious/disturbed" designs. ....Sounds like it is fun though.
Re: Best Nintendo Switch Run And Gun Games
I feel like Cuphead is actually a half hour long game that the devs padded with friggin' hard gameplay to bloat it out. I need to give it another try but I don't feel like hating it any more. It is a remarkable achievement in art undoubtedly.
Re: Talking Point: Should The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Library Expand Faster?
@Zenszulu Couldn't agree more. I stopped my subscription because I finally realized that I did't even play the NSO in its previous incarnation. The service really isn't competitive with other on the market. I think PS Now is phenomenal, maybe even too much so. I have a hard time justifying buying anything outside of it. I am not sure folks with an NSO subscription see that with every month that drips by, the cost of their subscription actually goes up with NSO. A person could wait two years and reap equal rewards to someone who waited and paid for a lackluster service in the meantime. Part of the value of services like Netflix and PS Now is also the cycling of content.
Re: Poll: What's The Worst Legend Of Zelda Game?
Battle of Olympus is heavily inspired by Zelda 2, and superior in every way, it is also a contemporary of 2. Those that love Zelda 2 should try Battle of Olympus out, it's great.
I love the strong opinions here, it's like fighting the worst flavor of ice cream. Good luck getting closure.
Re: The Game Awards Will Feature A 'League Of Legends' Musical Performance By Sting
I'm an old timer and love Sting (have multiple albums of his and The Police), but he hasn't had radio play in 30 years. I understand having to explain him to this site's demographic. His new album has some great songs.
Re: Nintendo's American Branch Didn't Like The Idea Of GameCube Being Purple
As an artist I could see where the hesitation could come from. Secondary colors like Orange, Green and Purple could be somewhat of a risk, albeit small. I really think the bigger thing was the handle...?....
Re: Activision Blizzard Employees Stage A Walkout Calling For CEO Bobby Kotick's Resignation
With this many employees walking out they could make several other companies if they could "ironically" find the leadership. Riot made an empire from ex-Blizzard folks. I hope this works out for them.
Re: 'Amazing Princess Sarah' Mixes Castlevania And Super Mario 2, And It's Out This Week
@Tobiaku Agreed, she does carry them well. She probably does a lot of core exercise.
Re: 'Amazing Princess Sarah' Mixes Castlevania And Super Mario 2, And It's Out This Week
Talk about back problems.....
Re: This Zelda II ROM Hack Removes All The Annoying Stuff To Present A Totally New Adventure
Pity they doomed it by latching it on to Zelda. With all that effort they could have tried a broader release with a new IP of their own.
Re: Sony's Censors Strike As Switch Gets '20 Ladies' While PS4 Gets '20 Bunnies'
This article is about as much press as this game will ever get. It is interesting how 99% of the games aesthetic has nothing to do with the Junior High art..... A master stroke in marketing.... I am amazed that I am even taking the time to talk about this otherwise forgettable shovelware.
Re: Capcom Arcade Stadium Now Lets You Buy Individual Titles For A Couple Of Bucks
Overall, I already feel like I have most of the good games through other bundles they have released over the years.
@Specter_of-the_OLED I am dying to get Alpha 3 Max
Re: Talking Point: The Metroid Dread Credits Debate Is Sadly Common
@BloodNinja I don't even know how to respond.... 🤪😀
Re: Talking Point: The Metroid Dread Credits Debate Is Sadly Common
@BloodNinja Roger that FWIW I'm all about folks getting credit for their work. I just can speak from personal experience that I've never sat through credits except for Marvel (and that wasn't to read off a litany of names). The best credits I've ever experienced were on a Super Monkey Ball game where I bowled over all the devs names.
Re: Talking Point: The Metroid Dread Credits Debate Is Sadly Common
@Spiders I can ask my friends in the industry, and see what they say.
Re: Talking Point: The Metroid Dread Credits Debate Is Sadly Common
@BloodNinja I said a lot of things. Which one are you in disagreement with?
Re: Talking Point: The Metroid Dread Credits Debate Is Sadly Common
I've been in the industry for a looong time now. It's funny to me that Mercury Steam has such a dumb policy. I also agree that credits are stupid too. I can tell you first hand after being involved with many many hires that NO ONE ever backchecks credits. It just isn't a thing. And for all of you crying for unions in the game industry, you'll are nuts. The game industry is so transient, it wouldn't accomplish what you are wanting, it would just line the pockets of some union leader that does nothing, make game creation way more expensive, and potentially strangle indies.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Price?
NSO was already pretty bad.... they should have augmented it from go. Especially, when the supporting controllers are $50 a pop. Apple already showed the path to defeated piracy. Nintendo, have fun spending money on whack a mole with ROM sites.
Re: First Impressions: For Better Or Worse, Pokémon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl Look Like Extremely Safe Remakes
This is nowhere near the level of Link's Awakening's polish. That said, I am not offended by the visuals here. The only glaring issue is that they actually seem pretty inconsistent. The desert area looks pretty great, on the other hand, the mines and town are pretty phoned in. That is not to say they won't polish it more, but there are ways to keep the collison, layout and tone without copying one for one the mesh/sprite layout. My guess is that they have a mixed bag of talent levels of their environment artists.
Re: The Localised Mario Party Superstars Overview Trailer Is Very Enthusiastic
The rendering on this is exquisite. I am blown away by all the crazy tech they are doing with their UI. Nintendo doesn't get enough credit for this kind of menu magic.
The surfacing is gorgeous too.
Re: Random: Ever Wonder What Metroid's Samus Aran Would Look Like In Marvel vs. Capcom 2?
Looks fantastic!
Re: Arc System Works Reveals Its Debut Trailer For River City Girls 2
I want to love this so much, because I love beat em ups. However, everytime I try to play these types of BEU, Scott Pilgrim was similar, the enemies are such damage sponges. They feel so slow and grindy. SOR4 is waaay more my pace. It is a shame, because this game is gorgeous and has such a high sheen of grind. I need to go and try the first one, one more time...
Re: Konami Competition Tasks Indie Devs With Reviving Its Classic IP
If Konami pulls this off and gets a great game(s) out of this, they are getting the deal of a century. Asking a dev to make a game for 18K, is dirt cheap. I hope the devs can do it without great personal cost. Even a tiny indie game takes tremendous time and effort. Are they asking for a demo, I'm not clear on this? It looks like the competition ends with further development and polish. Konami could afford to have 10-20 "winners" at that cost, even with extra money they are planning to put in afterwards. In the end, maybe the consumer wins??? Maybe there is profit sharing with the devs?
Re: Feature: Seriously, What The Heck Is Going On Inside Samus’ Morph Ball?
Tiny Samus and Poke-Samus are my preferred view of the world. I sleep better with those as my reality.
Re: Former Mario Movie Star John Leguizamo Isn't Happy With The Casting On The New Film
@nessisonett Not sure if you are being sarcastic, I am not sure how many people know Hopper died a while back.
By that account, a cameo would be "impressive"
Re: Former Mario Movie Star John Leguizamo Isn't Happy With The Casting On The New Film
@NoTinderLife Now that I have heard that suggestion... I can't get it out of my mind... Danny Devito is the perfect Mario
Re: Japanese Developer Treasure Teases Future Releases For Switch Online
Guardian Heroes
Re: Blossom Tales Sequel To Be Published By Playtonic Next Year
@twztid13 Just checked... You are totally right.
Re: Blossom Tales Sequel To Be Published By Playtonic Next Year
@chipia I played Link Between Worlds, but don't remember the mana system tying into bombs and arrows? I'll have to rev it up again.
The graphics aren't great but they didn't drive me too crazy. Not enough to get turned away at least.
Re: Nintendo Shares Adorable Artwork For Kirby And The Forgotten Land
I'm pumped for this game. Fingers crossed it has some tooth to it.
Re: Side-Scrolling Platformer Lumione Looks Like Underwater Ori
@Luigisghost669 Agreed. If the team really is that young they are probably tapping into their childhood nostalgia.
Re: Blossom Tales Sequel To Be Published By Playtonic Next Year
This is bigger news for me, personally, than the Direct! I loved the first one! This is awesome news. The first one cribbed from Zelda quite a bit, but I loved the narrative vehicle.
Re: "Dreams Come True": Chris Pratt Talks About His New Role As Super Mario
My only issue with any of this is that it feels like they went for star power (no pun intended) and not what the characters should sound like. Everyone can clutch pearls, or go to bat for Chris Pratt. Personally, I love him. I am just not sure his voice is going to work unless he pulls a Bradley Cooper (his Rocket was awesome, and didn't sound like him at all).
Re: Nintendo 64 And Sega Genesis Expansion Pack Announced For Switch Online, Launches This October
Nintendo.... Hate to break it to you but, this is why people pirate games.
Re: Nintendo Officially Reveals Kirby And The Forgotten Land
Like everyone said, probably too easy, but honestly something about this looks pretty awesome. It feels like a mix between Odyssey and Super Mario 3D World