This year's selection of Pocket Monster-catching video games has been a point of contention for fans since they were announced back in early 2021. Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are from-the-ground-up remakes of the 2006 Nintendo DS games that fans have been begging for for years, so what’s the issue? Shouldn’t most people be fairly thrilled? Some fans are absolutely head over heels for the chibi art style and the game’s simplicity, although others wish these remakes took things to the next level, tried something different, and gave us a more of a graphical showcase.
For us, though, we fall somewhere in the middle. Last week Nintendo invited us to attend a special preview session to check out the games ahead of the November launch, and while we weren’t able to go hands-on just yet, we were able to gain a lot more insight into what to expect from these Gen 4 remakes. Since The Pokémon Company currently has its hands full with next year's Pokémon Legends: Arceus, Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are being outsourced to a third-party company known as ILCA. They’ve worked with TPC in the past on the app Pokémon Home, but are now being given the chance to show their stuff in the Sinnoh Region.
If you’ve played a mainline Pokémon game before, you’ll know what to expect here. You’ll travel the world on a mission to complete your Pokédex, collect badges and become the greatest Pokémon Trainer there ever was. If Sword and Shield are the only games you’ve played in the series, you may be a bit surprised to see the overworld laid out in a fairly 'stiff' manner, but that’s part of the charm here as these remakes are staying as faithful as possible to their original vision. The buildings, plant life and NPCs have all been designed with a toy-like aesthetic, somewhat reminiscent of the art style of the The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening Switch remake from 2019, although we’re not sure it works as well here.
Other than the occasional NPC walking around, we’ve yet to see much overall life in the set pieces. Trees and bushes will sway back and forth with the flow of the wind, and clouds will cast shadows down from above. All of the terrain and structures fit together nicely, but Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl look almost as if you gave a kid a playset of toys and they rearranged them as close as they could to the maps of the original Diamond and Pearl and said “What do you think?” Everything works but in some places it feels like there could be more detail to pull it all together, some tweaks or additions that would provide a little more cohesion for a modern day Pokémon release. We were only shown a few select areas during our preview, but we’re curious to see what other areas of the game has to offer.
However, things become a bit different once you pop into a battle. Pokémon battles ditch the chibi-aesthetic found in the overworld for something more modern and familiar, a look that likely utilizes the same 3D models found in the more recent mainline games. Battles feature some nice graphical flair here and there, the quick over-the-shoulder flash that happens at the start of each battle is directly inspired by the classics as well. Beyond that though, it seems like battles are largely unchanged. Some new quality of life improvements that were non-existent in the originals are included, like the ability to share EXP between all of your Pokémon and the fact each move will clearly state if it will be effective against the opposing Pokémon or not.
Plenty of Sinnoh Pokémon will also be making their mainline Switch debut in Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl as well, including the starters Chimchar, Piplup and Turtwig, everyone’s favorite Bidoof and many more. We’re unsure if some of the event-only Pokémon from the originals like Darkrai and Shaymin will be making a return, but we’ve been told that the story is staying true to the original tale, so hopefully they’ve found a way to include them without the hurdle of Mystery Gifts.
Most mainline Pokémon games have some sort of additional activity to keep you busy beyond just collecting and battling Pokémon, and Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are bringing plenty of these features back from the days of the DS. The most improved of the bunch seems to be the Super Contest. This is essentially a rhythm game where one of your Pokémon will head on stage for a dance off against other Pokémon in a contest of cuteness. The actual gameplay seems fairly simple, tasking you with pressing different buttons in time with what’s displayed on screen, but you’re also able to dress up your trainer in different outfits for the occasion too.
You’re also able to roam around Amity Square park with up to six of your Pokémon alongside you, as long as they meet the required cuteness criteria. This will help raise their bond with you and you can also cook Poffins for your Pokémon to munch on here, too. We've been told you'll have some limited camera control here as well if you’d like to take a few snapshots of you and your party of Pokémon.
If you think you’re more of a rough-and-tough trainer who prefers something a bit more gritty, you can head into the Underground to dig for rare gems and even rarer statues of Pokémon. You’ll also discover Hideaways underground, which are areas that offer you chances to catch a slew of specific types of Pokémon. They'll even roam around the map much like in the Let’s Go series. These Hideaways will be themed around different types, so you can expect to find Fire-type Pokémon in an area that looks like an active volcano, or Grass and Bug types in a wooded forest. We’re not entirely sure how the underground supports such a vast ecosystem, but we're talking about a fictional world full of monsters that can fit in your pocket anyways, so let's not get hung up on mere details.
You can also affect the type of Pokémon that will appear in Hideaways. The statues you discover in the mining portions can be placed all around in your Secret Base anywhere you like and if you place down a batch of Water-type Pokémon statues, you’ll encounter more of those types of Pokémon in the Hideaways. Those of you hoping to deck out your Secret Base with Pokédolls, trophies, rugs and furniture will be a little disappointed to hear that, to our knowledge, statues will be the only items you can use to decorate. It’s definitely a bummer to see this section of the game scaled back in comparison to the Secret Bases found in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire on the 3DS, but the added practicality of the statues may be a fair trade off.
There are plenty of other quality of life improvements that have made the jump from past games in the series. You’re able to have a single Pokémon follow you around on the overworld map, you can now change the skin tone and clothing of your player character, and your Pokémon box can be accessed from anywhere in the game.
From what we’ve been shown so far, Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are shaping up to be faithful but extremely safe remakes. If you’ve been curious to learn more about the story of the Sinnoh region but don’t have access to a DS — or you're just itching for a different Pokémon game to play on Switch — then there’s a lot to look forward to here. However, considering what Pokémon Legends: Arceus is looking to offer at the start of next year, it’s yet to be seen if there’s enough in these remakes to entice someone who’s looking for something fresh and new.
Pokémon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl launch on Nintendo Switch on 19th November.
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I wouldn't mind them being safe if it just had an appealing art style to go with it. I'm not interested in remakes that look worse than the originals though.
Damn, it looks so beautiful. Looks way better than it did at launch trailer
Works for me. I just need it to be a remake. And not break anything. Should be a fun time.
@BenAV Having played Platinum on the DS and speaking as an artist... These are not even close to worse looking. At all.
Sounds like EXP Share will once again not be optional. I don't really understand why it has become an issue to develop a toggle switch for this
Edit: Just to clarify. This isn't a deal breaker. I'm excited to go back to D&P. Just don't know why they couldn't just keep this particular feature optional.
Looks good to me but not willing to pay £50 for a remake of a Pokémon game I'll get it if it ever goes down to around £30
Bottom line, I'm glad I'll be able to play Gen 4 on the big screen, even if the aesthetics aren't perfect. It still beats DS hand cramps.
It being a safe entry is something I don't have much issue with, considering how unsafe Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee, and Sword and Shield were, and unsafe Legends Arceus will be.
Having something that does go back to basics is a relief actually.
The fact that these games have online pvp automatically make them better than Legends Arceus.
I don’t mind them being faithful remakes to a certain extent, diamond and pearl were originally designed to be incomplete after all, as Plantinum was designed to round out the generation. So lack of a battle frontier or new forms for existing Pokémon isn’t really acceptable IMO.
That's about what I expect, and I'm not upset. If another developer getting this means we get Legends from Game Freak, I'm happy. I've always liked how Pokemon had been willing to explore spin offs and new ideas.
Think I'll skip and just stick with SMT5. I didn't like Gen 4 when it first released and this remake doesn't look like it will change that.
I have next to zero desire to replay the originals as I’ll be long under the ground by the time Blissey’s health meter finally depletes.
It’s pleasing to see it looking more like the Link’s Awakening remake than the monstrosity that was showcased in the reveal trailer, but this ain’t setting my world on fire either. I still would have preferred the Let’s Go treatment with a special Chatot Joy-Con with microphone.
Interestingly, this is also the first time we’ve had three radically different looking main series Pokémon games in a row (though battles look mostly the same).
Good Lord thanks, i am really Happy they do it old school.
With Arceus we get a new Style, but i need a classic one with enough Content.
Sun and Moon where kinda empty at the End (my Last Pokemon)
Black and white 2 had soooo much to do.
Sooo much.
@Mauzuri
The Pokémon fan base is so large at this point that it is literally impossible to please everyone.
I don't really see what there is to be 'grateful' for, yes, new Pokémon games are nice, but they are made because they make money, not out of kindness
My main issue with this is that the bar for Pokemon remakes has actually been set pretty high. Fire Red and Leaf Green felt like huge overhauls at the time and the additional content felt substantial. Heartgold / Soulsilver are among the best games, if not the best, in the entire series with their attention to detail and plethora of content. Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire modernized things in a great way and the Delta Episode really felt like a treat.
It's even harder for me to be excited about these games when the much-loved features from Platinum, the better game by all regards, are missing. No Battle Frontier, no Distortion world...
I really hope Platinum's content makes it in as it was the far better game.
Fine by me. Pokemon’s been garbage since Gen VI, I’d rather they just went back to the good games.
Sucks that I'll only get a week of play time with SMT V before having to play this.
"Some new quality of life improvements that were non-existent in the originals are included, like the ability to share EXP between all of your Pokémon and the fact each move will clearly state if it will be effective against the opposing Pokémon or not."
Is there an ability to share EXP or are we again being forced to share EXP? There's a gigantic difference to me.
Also, no Battle Frontier, it seems. Sigh. This was the absolute last chance for it to be included as far as I see it. Sad to see my favorite feature in the history of the franchise is officially dead.
For online and local network battling will this take over from Sword/Shield? Should I get this double-pack or a copy of Sword to go along with Shield?
I do not understand why they do not bring back Pokemon walking by you. It was awesome!
They can't change it too much. There is always new generation that have never played Pokemon and it still appeals to those kids.
I'm just pissed they don't give us the option to turn off the EXP share once again. I mean is it that hard to program an option to let us turn it off and on? Actually no, it isn't since that's how the EXP Share was handled in Gen6&7
Still waiting to hear if the Pokeradar is going to be in the game before I make a final decision on getting this,.
@Bret Serebii stated that, according to Polygon, EXP Share will again be an always-on feature.
@Zuljaras
That's actually a feature in Brilliant Diamond / Shining Pearl though. It's not unlocked from the start, but it's there.
https://diamondpearl.pokemon.com/en-us/features/
I'm the Fry from Futurama meme with Dawn's hat on.
Makes sense that they would take this approach. Pokémon fans are among some of the most vocal, so they always run the risk of upsetting people. They have to do what they believe will upset people the least lol
@UmbreonsPapa Thanks for the info. I'm gonna go dejectedly kick rocks
@RupeeClock niiiice!!! So once unlocked your pokemon will be with you everywhere or only in open areas.
I guess we will see.
Thanks for the info!
@RupeeClock I wonder if it unlocks the ability for you to walk with all your Pokemon, or just the Amity Square approved "cute" ones.
I've never played a pokemon before, but this looks like a great starting point
My problem with this is that the Pokemon Company is a Multi-Billion dollar company, and the Pokemon Franchise is the most successful Media Franchise OF ALL TIME. There should be no excuse for a 1:1 remake of a DS game.
This should of knocked our socks off, thrown us to the ground and made us beg them to release it so we can play it. We should have been praising the Pokemon Company for ever doubting them for how lackluster Sword and Shield was.
But instead we get a bare bones Chibi game that will be outdated by January.
This should have been like Final Fantasy 7 Remake, one of the greatest games ever made. That game pushed the PS4 and then some, and 20 years from now, people will look back on it and be like "Damn, how the hell did they make that in 2020?"
But in 20 years for this? People will look back and wonder how this was acceptable for the times.
It's a shame, and unlike Metroid, I won't feel bad for emulating this if I play it.
@MegaVel91 For trying to make the overworld feel like the classics, it's not that bad looking. People gotta understand there's a reason why they did this. The sprites from a distance are short and wide, while in battle, they are tall and detailed. They were replicating that effect.
I'm happy for this to be safe. Take me back to the good days of Pokemon when there was actual exploration and there was some sense of mystery. I guess I'm jaded by the recent Pokemon games, which were just linear paths with the one "open area" that was quite barren.
@Bret
It appears that whilst Amity Square features the same limited selection of permitted Pokémon as the original games, you're allowed to take any Pokémon on your journey across the Sinnoh region.
The screenshots show Pokémon like Bidoof, Abomasnow, Buizel, and Staravia following the player, which aren't approved for Amity Square.
Looks cute in Chibi style.
I will get the game ASAP.
Yo man, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I want the same game I played in 2007 but with prettier graphics on a modern handheld and boy does this deliver! I know that sounds sarcastic but I assure you I'm serious, I'm very excited for these remakes.
@MegaVel91 why are people complaining it looks terrible? Imo, it looks really good. Way better than it did back in like February
@BenAV,
You are in luck then, this looks far better than the original.
@anoyonmus,
Because they are hard to please.
Mobile phone game level quality
Hopefully this remake is most in line with FRLG- nice new QoL features and fixes to the biggest problems with the originals. ORAS added and removed things in equal measure, so it can’t necessarily be called the definitive version of Gen 3, and whilst HGSS were nothing but improved on GSC, the Gen 2 games have some absolutely massive flaws (poor level curve, balancing, item availability, pacing) that could have easily been fixed, but instead were ignored entirely.
Pokemon Diamond was my first experience of the series.
To be honest everyone since has seemed painfully similar. I don’t need to play this or anything that repeats this formula again.
Now that we are mostly a month away from release, the hype is starting to begin!
@Would_you_kindly hahahahah it won't
Not even gonna read the comments. It's a Pokemon article on NL, I know people won't be happy.
Personally I am way more interested in this game than Legends Arceus. LA looks like a collectathon with side quests and no main story at all.
I still have some questions about BDSP but I am pretty confident I will like it. LA? Not sold.
That one guy on Miiverse who loved rating video game water must be so stoked for this game
Ok, that hard edged square tiling looks ridiculously bad in 3D...
If "extremely safe" means less innovation (not the point of a remake anyway) and more National Pokédex, I'd say go for it.
I know I'm almost alone in thinking this here, but I could trade the Wild Area for more playable Pokémon any day.
Is it confirmed whether or not you can turn exp share off?
I won't be buying if exp share can't be turned off.
I love the art style personally but I am disappointed to see move strength/weakness will be labelled and default exp share.
I found sword and shield too easy and was looking forward to an older title. This will take away some of the challenge for me...
Oh well I'm sure I will still enjoy it.
@Pokester99 These do not "objectively look worse", that's entirely your opinion. Just because you don't like the art style doesn't mean the art style doesn't exist. Your opinion is not fact.
All I want to know if this will include the content from platinum, thats a deal breaker for me
I’m hoping I can finally take my arceus out of Pokémon home and use it again.
Online PVP is going to be awesome. This might be my first pokemon game!!!
I’m ok with safe if the game is really good. Metroid dread did a lot very safe things, but it’s incredible. D/P might be my favorite Pokémon gen, but even still, idk if the Pokémon experience is for me anymore. This game looks fine, think I’ll pass, but that’s me
Cool,
Anyway back to Metroid
I just want Battle Frontier to return....with everything...
Also the Game Corner, honestly don't care if they changed it, the slots were boring anyways and I liked Voltorb Flip more. lol
Good. The lack of random battles and forced motion controls ruined LGPE for me. If the remake isn't going to be ambitious, then it can at least have the decency not to ruin what already works well.
@johnvboy that’s how Pokémon fans are
@Kieroni I know still haven't had a discount on Pokémon let's go
@shinesprites Most other places are reporting you can't turn it off GameXplain posted that because of the conflicting reports, they are trying to reach out to Nintendo for clarification
I will buy the game, and I'm not going to get mad and talk about lazy developers, but this will always feel like a disappointment to me. Pokemon remakes were wonderful things. The worlds, stories and characters you knew, but done as if it was being made in the present. They were real celebrations of the Pokemon series and perhaps most importantly, were a step-stepping for the developers to learn for the next generation. It feels like once this undoubtedly does well, this is what we'll now always get for the Pokemon remake.
@shinesprites Okay so you CAN turn off exp share, unlike Sword and Shield?
@Pokester99 Yes there is. You just don't like it. It's next to impossible to make a game with "no art style". You may think the style isn't strong, but the only way to make a game with "no art style" is for it to be text-based.
@Pokester99 There is an art style here, and no, they do not look objectively worse. The visual style of the game itself counts as one. You may personally not like it, but you're not the end all arbitrator of of how it looks.
Granted, it's uninspired, but that doesn't mean an art style doesn't exist. It sounds more like you're reaching hard to dock hard against it.
@Bret I would just ignore him at this point. He obviously has a hateboner for the game's look and can't judge it honestly at all.
@Pokester99 A turd isn't a video game. Keep trying, bud, I'm disengaging.
Actually I believe more in these games being good than the new Arceus one.
This because these are remakes of good games, before Gamfreak started to make a gigantic mess with Sun & Moon and later (however S&S is better than S&M)
@Rayquaza2510 Honestly, the Arceus one seems like something that GF needs to do with the games more going forward. The concept of Pokemon being able to attack you instead of immediately engaging them in battle, or them outright chasing you into a battle adds more player choice.
Also gives more credence to one of the oldest reasons you couldn't leave the starting town early: Pokemon are dangerous wild animals if traveling without one of your own to help defend you.
So frankly, this happening is something that should happen and should stay beyond it. GF is taking a big gamble with that one.
Fairly hyped to relive Gen 4, though it does concern me a little that it appears they might have neutered Secret Base customization in favor of the statues. Other than that tidbit, these are shaping up to be about what I expected. There's nothing wrong with "safe" in this case IMO as long as many of the improvements are positives.
As long as they run smoothly and not like sword/shields jarring visuals.
I honestly can't bring myself to get excited for these Pokémon games anymore. The mechanics are so old and outdated and the visuals look like their from the GameCube era.
I guess for me personally I'm just more interested into remasters that add some new wrinkles to the existing game. Like how they added the DexNav to ORAS....or the flying over Hoenn mechanic.
As it stands these games are not that interesting to me. The underground areas where you can catch new Pokemon are neat, but it's not really enough on its own. (for me anyway)
Please end this era of ruining old classics by giving them the ugly toy style. Links awakening, advance wars, and now D&P
I do think the game looks pretty good with the focus/tilt-shift effect and the diorama feel but I also don’t see any value in buying it. It should absolutely have done some new things here and there. I feel like Pokémon is all over the place in consistency between the games. They were on a slow but steady incline from white/black and up to my absolute favorite sun/ultra sun. Then sword/shield came which I didn’t LOVE, and now it goes steps back like they did with omega ruby/alpha sapphire (which is what sparked my interest in Pokémon games again at the time).
I see what they’re doing and I may end up buying these once I learn more, but at this time I’m not excited at all for these. Normally I’d be watching the news on these and getting hyped but I just have no interest in these at this point. In all cases, at this point, I’d definitely go back and play Sun / Ultra Sun before I bought these.
Who knows what could happen though. I’ll check back in November.
Pretty good so far , i know giratina was in platinum but i hope they add his storyline aswell.
I like the art style, personally. It's replicating the small characters as they were as DS sprites.
Making the character models look like the Sword/Shield ones wouldn't make any sense because it would go against the art aesthetic that they're trying to replicate.
I am very excited and love the visuals. Looks so much better than Sun/Moon or Sword/Shield
Lacking features of the 3rd version of the original games from all those years ago and adopting an artstyle reminiscent of mobile apps should automatically disqualify this from having a full Switch game price point, but D&P on DS were first Pokemon games for a ton of people, so I understand that the fanbase driven by nostalgia will eat this up and ask for seconds.
Fine by me. D/P are amazing games and it's not like they need to change a whole lot anyway. These remakes are looking really good, graphic style.
I never really clicked with Diamond and Pearl, but I was semi-intrigued by the remakes all the same. Looks like there aren't really that many upgrades (other than the obvious graphical one) and considering that the Underground was my favourite bit, I'm actually pretty sad that they've scaled it back
I'm not sure how people don't like the looks of these games. The art style is so precious.
I was 100% on board with BDSP from the start, but EXP Share always being on is a massive deal-breaker for me. It’s not that EXP Share is bad, but the lack of an option to toggle it off is.
XY, ORAS and S/M all managed to do this, so why on earth this stopped being a thing since the Let’s Go games has been a real annoyance.
I see people telling those complaining about the EXP Share being always on that this is a common staple for RPG’s these days. But so is auto-save?? And yet ILCA have made that optional.
It doesn’t hurt to give the players more options to let them play how they prefer to.
Honestly, I’m just disappointed.
@Zuljaras they literally showed it in a recent trailer
@EliteXeos i heard there is a toggle?
Zelda like returns...I like the looks.
I wonder if there's any challenge in this game or whether it's like SwSh or Let's Go, where it felt impossible to lose a single battle.
Ever since the succes of Pokémon Go the mainline games seem to cater much more to kids and non-gamers.
I might give it a try if it reviews well, but as it seems I'd rather track down a DS copy and play the original.
4th Gen was the first one I skipped until going back to pokemon in XY. I much prefer the chibi artstyle in XY and ORAS as opposed to the more anatomically correct found in S&M and SwSh, so I'm enjoying this. I'm thrilled to try 4th gen for the first time with the QoL improvements
@MegaVel91
Auto-save is on by defualt, but it has a toggle to turn it on/off.
Exp. Share does not, it’s always on.
Art style doesnt matter so much to me as basic functionality and content.
ORAS's artstyle and character design wasn't it for me either, but having the full updated dex in gen three plus online plus megas really made it stand out... to me it was the last good pokemon game. BDSP on the other hand we are pretty confident will be the exact same dex.. no extras, so whats the point in modernization? SWSH was also very very bad for online players due to the 20 min timer carrying over from LG games... I just ain't excited for this. If I want the nostalga trip from when I was dying in the hospital and got through it playing pearl, I could just play my old DS copy if the only difference is visual.
Why does it sound like playing it safe is actually really risky?
The EXP share it's a mechanic made for helping beginners, but a nuisance to the players who want a challenge. The original games were pretty challenging, and I don't want the fight with Cynthia to be anti-climatic. Better find ways to make Diamond and Pearl harder...
Accessing the PC from anywhere? This really changes the endgame a lot. I'm not sure if these "upgrades" were the reason Sword and Shield felt so simplified, or the formula just needed a big change that Legends: Arceus will surely bring for the better.
The super contests and secret bases are looking more watered down, but why? ORAS did an excellent job in evolving these functionalities (even if I didn't use them that much there, I did in Gen 4)
The only thing I'm begging to know is how they will compare to ORAS. Those were pretty good remakes and even offered new story content. I'm at least hoping there will be some Platinum content like Looker and new, more powerful forms for the Time and Space lords themselves.
These games better not disappoint, I can't even believe I'm thinking remakes will disappoint. I enjoyed playing Diamond even with its original faults.
Difference is Link’s Awakening looks nice whereas this looks like a mobile game and a cheap one at that
This is nowhere near the level of Link's Awakening's polish. That said, I am not offended by the visuals here. The only glaring issue is that they actually seem pretty inconsistent. The desert area looks pretty great, on the other hand, the mines and town are pretty phoned in. That is not to say they won't polish it more, but there are ways to keep the collison, layout and tone without copying one for one the mesh/sprite layout. My guess is that they have a mixed bag of talent levels of their environment artists.
@Heavyarms55
Comments seem overall positive with some people who arent fans of the art style or that it seems like platinum content may not be in it.
Gens IV and V seemed overall positive when it comes to reception with VI-VIII being polarising (outside of OR/AS which seemed well received overall)
I'm so mad that they did Secret Bases dirty. They were my favorite feature in Gen 3 and 4. If there isn't a place where I can decorate a real secret base, I will be livid.
I just finished Platinum recently so this is a hard pass for me. though later I'll likely bid on one of yours, ya'll, and grab it at its proper low-ball dollar value.
Excited for Legends though and holding out on starting any Pokemon game until I have that one played and completed.
any word yet if gens 5-8 will be available in game or at some point? A lot of my favorites are in those gens
@WallyWest they cannot give us anything but improved Platinum version. I would be interested if the expand the Pokédex too through the underground areas.
I hope the dex is limited tbb
People are just being dramatic idiots, this game looks great! Looks way better to play than the old, slow DS games. Who remembers waiting a minute to watch blisseys health bar go down?
@Divinebovine 25 secs from full to depletion of a level 100 Blissey. Not half as bad as you say and not many are going to encounter this quirk in a casual playthrough. The Blissey health bar in D/P meme is so stale.
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@Demon-Serph This definitely won't change that. This remake will get by for a lot of people on sheer nostalgia factor alone. If you haven't even got that, it's probably a waste of your time and money.
@Mauzuri I don't really think it's an issue of gratitude though.
The fan base has been making it clear what they want and don't want for years and years. I'm not against this game at all but it is frustrating to see them fiddle obsessively with a formula that basically has a master laid out for it. Following Pokemon is good. Expanded underground is very good. No HMs is incredibly good.
Single-use TMs, always-on Exp Share, ignoring content from the updated versions of the games, that's all bad. It's all stuff that the vast majority of players condemns, yet they keep doing it.
@Porky 25 seconds is a LONG TIME. But anyways, my point is, this new one should be more fun to play!
Having missed their original counterparts, I'm really looking forward to these remakes. I'm getting the duo pack so I can play with my girlfriend whose first Pokémon game she ever played was Pokémon Shield. This should be fun
@MegaVel91 the pixel art of diamond pearl platinum was gorgeous what are you on about
@Mobiusman Enough that I can tell you're trying to cast shade.
If you need an example of my work: you're staring at it as you read my comment.
@YourLocalChonker I never stated or implied anything to the contrary. So I have to ask what exactly you are on about.
I played and loved Platinum and loved it's graphics.
@MegaVel91 oh i thought you said these looked far better than the originals
@YourLocalChonker Nah. I would say they are a step up. But far better? Not really.
@MegaVel91 mehh i dont think these are better in anyway (other than the water). the faces look 2D, the 3D world looks lifeless, which would've been ok for a 15 year old 2D DS game, but not a $60 full hd switch game
@MegaVel91 Well being an artist don't make you right in any case. At the end of the day the graphics is objectively worse and the matter of the fact is some people like worse looking graphics. It's not subjective. It's just refinement of preference.
@YourLocalChonker You and others repeatedly using the word "objectively" doesn't magically make your opinions into fact. You would prefer something different and similar to the modern games but better. Fine. But just because they aren't what you or some others desire doesn't make them "objectively" anything other than "not what you were hoping for."
@Mobiusman I disagree on the lifeless part, but yeah, they are pretty 2 dimensional on the faces.
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@MegaVel91 i never said objectively, who got your knickers in a knot?
@YourLocalChonker where my replies were directed got mixed up. The bottom one was supposed to be yours. The top one was at Mobiusman
To me as long as they truly innovate with Legend of Arceus, I'm fine with them playing it safe with the remakes.
@MegaVel91 "as an artist, let me tell you that your opinion on what good art looks like wrong"
Probably the most pathetically arrogant comment I've read in a while.
@Spiderland The fact you misrepresented what I actually said is even more pathetic.
@MegaVel91 I didn't though did I? You said "as an artist" like that gives your opinion on a games stylistic choice any more merit. It's really sad
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