Chill out people, betas, demo and test fire are for this, test the servers and the game on heavy load, hopefully Nintendo takes everything they got from this and work the problems out.
@Quorthon Should we blame Nintendo or the gamers ? im pretty sure if most of those games sell Nintendo will surely make more of them
Even Metroid, where everyone was crying for a new Metroid game, Metroid Prime 3 sold less than 2 million of copies, slightly more than MP2 on a console that has almost 4-5 times the player base.
Sure a lot of them havent even given the chance but still
Was going to get this BUT... After the demo of Puzzle and Dragons and the fact that Asus games go on sale pretty often, im more than fine about waiting a few months
@Quorthon The vita is dead get over it, a huge part of those games are indie games which A) not exclusives B) they dont sell consoles, nobody buys a console for X indie game.
In that regard, indie developers DO care about the Vita because its easily ported
The vita and the WiiU are pretty much at the same point, and the Vita had a 10 month lead, its a handheld and its selling about the same as the WiiU (slightly better) ? and you dont think its dead?
Oh and for the record, the vita has 0 games that has more than 1 million units sold in Japan, zero, nada. In fact, and i would bet that the vita has only less games with more than 1 million units sold than the fingers on 1 of my hands.
@Quorthon Yes, the WiiU is dead, and we were talking about Japan not worldwide, where yes Sony is making a good job (The Vita is still dead worldwide, Vita 10m vs 55-60m 3DS).
By the way, the WiiU has already passed the DC, but thats irrelevant
I was talking about Japan, Japan is dying when it comes to gaming, they have 0 interest (at least for now) in all these new consoles... or maybe they are indeed making the shift to Smartphone gaming
@Quorthon No they arent ? PS2 was selling an average of 70k of units in their first 130 weeks, thats 2 and a half years straight... thats 9 million consoles
the PS4 ? 1.5m in 1 year and 2 months (roughly half), thats about 25k units iaverage in about 60 or so weeks.
How is that retaking Japan ? And the Vita is a nonfactor, its dead, seling LESS than a handheld that has 6 times its player base.
@JaxonH I dont know if you didnt understand my comment, but i mean that gaming in general feels like dead weight in Japan... The PS4 got a decent week and fell flat, sure its doing better than the WiiU but the numbers are still terrible
Only the 3DS seems alive and that one is already hitting (if it didnt already) saturation point.
It really seems Smartphones are rekting everything
@ikki5 the dreamcast got a massive price cut (to $149 first then to $299 and it end up making Sega losing even more money.
Im dead sure if Nintendo wanted they could reduce the price to $149 instead of $299 and it will sell much much better
But this are different plans, Nintendo tries to earns as much money as possible from every console aold where as Sega was just trying to sell what was left.
Comparing numbers its possible, but when the numbers are so close
@ikki5 the dreamcast got a massive price cut (to $149 first then to $299, effective 50%) and it end up making Sega lose even more money per console sold
Im dead sure if Nintendo wanted they could reduce the price to $149 instead of $299 and it will sell much much better
But this are different plans, Nintendo tries to earns as much money as possible from every console sold where as Sega was just trying to sell what was left.
Comparing numbers its possible and its right !, but when the numbers are so close you have to take a much more holistic view, "what are the companies doing", " w
How are them", etc...
I dont think nobody its naive enough to believe that the WiiU isnt a comercial failure, but its situation its not comparable to the DC because the whole context its completely different.
@ikki5 9.5m was 31 December 2014, you really think Nintendo didnt sold a single console in 4 months and 16 days ?
9.5m in 2 and a half years, that means around 3.5-4m a year, thats about 300k per month, considering the fall of the WiiU, IM SURE the console its AT LEAST doing 100k-150k per month to about 1-2m a year (50% year fall seems a decent assumption, if not a little too low), im estimating about 10m at this point, give or take
@ikki5 Im not arguing if the WiiU is a failure or not (it is) but paring both companies as a whole, i dont care what the N64 or the GC did back in the day because thats about 15 years ago. when i say their last 3 were success im obviously talking about Saturn/32X/CD vs Wii/3DS/DS).
I actually would LOVE if Nintendo goes only Handhelds, their handhelds tend to be much much better, imagine ALL Nintendo developers only focussing on 1 console at a time, it would not even need 3rd party support (ok it will, but they would be releasing a nintendo game every 2 months or so,and they tend to eat the competition in the Nintendo consoles)
@ikki5 "even the Dreamcast, the system which ruined Sega for consoles and considered an utter failure has sold better than the Wii U"
What about the Saturn ?, contrary to Nintendo which lastest 3 efforst are all success, the Sega Saturn was a mega fail and the 32X/CD were terrible too, the Nomad was another WTF... Sega could not resist another disaster, and, you know, they didnt.
And btw, the DC only sold 10m, impretty sure the WiiU has sold more or its around that number (Still bad, but it hasnt sold "better" like you said)
Im not defending Nintendo by the way, but its pretty naive to compare Companies without looking their previous efforts, the DC didnt kill Sega ? it was a domino, starting with the 32X, Saturn and end it up with the DC
@MasterBlaster The voice of the minority TENDS to be a lot louder than the majority, they are a lot more vocal about it.
dont get me wrong, i know it hurts some people, but I HARDLY believe people will base their decision to buy a game whatever it has voice chat or not, if you are or not buying it, it will not be based on that alone.
Remeber when people were crying and saying "we wont buy Destiny because its an only online game", yeah, lets see how did that turn out at the end,the game still sold millions and it was a terrible game anyway
Same as halo 5, people are saying that they wont buy Halo 5 because Halo MCC has such problems... im pretty sure Halo 5 will sell a crap ton either way
Make a product, make it desirable and it will far outweight its problems, and i think Nintendo has done a decent job in that regard with splatoon
People are putting way too much importance into the voice chat, as if the game will or will not sell well based only on that, voice chat has been always underused... I swear to god qhen im playing Dota 2 or CS:GO ranked the first thing i ask is "Does anyone have a mic, if so, please use it" which is followed by a dead silence or maybe 1 or 2 saying "i do".
Im not saying its not important, like i said earlier, rulling it out a 100% its was a little too much, having the option is nice also, but it wont be what made this game sell or not
@MasterBlaster im not sure about that, i dont think Nintendo think those games underperformed.
For once, Bayonetta 2 sold 600k+ on a console that had 7-8m users compared to Bayonetta 1 which craked about 1.2m on a combined userbase of 120m+ consoles
Same as DKTF, about 1m copies on 7-8m users vs 6m on 100m+ users
IF they werent stupid with their predictions, those are, albeit dissapointing as a whole, pretty good considering the user base of the console
@MasterBlaster i play Dota 2 and CS:GO all the time, 80-90% of the time i get a kid who sucks but will yell over the voice chat that its our fault.
How awesome its to have a terrible day at work just to get home to be tell that you are a worthless pos ? Which happens quite a bit on some "hardcore" games
I agree that games can be better with voice chat, sadly much more often than not it sucks and its an unpleasant situation of someone yelling and crying.
I do think rulling out the voice chat completely its kinda a little too extreme, "friends only" would have been a good middle point.
And to be fair, L4D its a pretty friendly game too, Dota 2, CS:GO and CoD are the real deal
@ferrers405 The last pokemon game on a console failed misserably, what makes you think this time it wont be the same (the installbase its pretty much the same)
Im not sure it will move many WiiUs but its really hard to tell, its making people turn their heads way too much to leave the possibility of this game selling many WiiUs out of the picture, not enough to revive the console but maybe put it in a better situation.
And while i would love a "friends voice chat" im kinda happy with it being left out BUT, i do think the most toxic people are on the PS4/XB1 community, i think this one would have fare like TF2 on PC where people just like to have fun without being too terribly into the competitive structure of needing to win every single match while yelling "OMG YOU SUCK AND SO DOES YOUR MOTHER".
That being said, ive yet to find a single online game besides TF2 where people were nice and happy, in that regard,im hapyy they left it out of the game
the problem with DLC comes with the amount of terrible developers giving terrible DLC content for outrageous prices, ($15 for 5 maps !!! are you kidding me !)
Nintendo so far has been doing it pretty well, some say amiibo might be paid DLC but A) its decently cheap, B) it works for more than one game and will work on the future C) its a figure that as cheap as may be its actually phisically and once DLC goes KIA that WILL STILL BE THERE , so i say the price is more than decent, so as long as Nintendo keeps doing its DLC on the same way they have been doing it i dont see the problem.
You guys surely didnt expect to get free content for free all the time right ? and, more importantly, Nintendo to stay out of the DLC business forever ?
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Re: Humble Nindie Bundle Sells Over 37,000 Units in Just 24 Hours
@FeedingTheWheel they are added, they sent you a mail with the update with the codes
Re: ​Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night Gets a Wii U Stretch Goal
@Quorthon Unreal Engine 4 runs on WiiU
Re: ​Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night Gets a Wii U Stretch Goal
100% of getting the 3 million goal, thats pretty good,
i love all these indie low graphic level games on my WiiU, the gamepad is PERFECT for it.
Re: Splatoon Global Testfire Suffers Major Problems in Final Pre-Launch Session
Chill out people, betas, demo and test fire are for this, test the servers and the game on heavy load, hopefully Nintendo takes everything they got from this and work the problems out.
As of now it looks promising
Re: Review: Swords & Soldiers II (Wii U eShop)
Im getting it
Re: An Impressive 1.79 Million Players Have Crossed Swords With Fire Emblem: Awakening
Holy Moly !! so happy
To put in in perspective, this has sold more than EVERY F-Zero game and better than every Metroid game bar Metroid 1 and Prime
So, next time, buy their game instead of calling them names for not making more F-Zero or Metroid
Re: Code Name S.T.E.A.M. Fails to Chart in Week of Poor Sales in Japan
Konami laughing
All hail our new mobile gaming overlords
Re: Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition Leads in Japan as 3DS Tops Hardware Sales
Japan just doesnt care about gaming this generation (except 3DS) :/ kinda sad to see.
Re: Review: Attack on Titan: Humanity in Chains (3DS)
Looks pretty fun, i dont know a thing about this because Anime sucks in general... But it looks and "reads" extremely awesome
Will get it, for sure
Re: Former Castlevania Producer Koji Igarashi's Kickstarter Launches, But Won't Come To Nintendo Consoles
A new third party gaming not coming to WiiU ? Shocking
Re: Splatoon Global Testfire Demo Confirmed For This Weekend
DAMN
And i just took a plane to go on vacations
Re: Nintendo Announces Higher Than Expected Profits Despite Missed Sales Targets
Mario Kart 8 has more than 50% attach rate !?
Holy Moly
Re: Talking Point: Is Konami About To Exit The Console Game Business?
Im pretty sure Bayonetta 2 sold about 600k with less than 8 million consoles
Which stupidly awesome for the player base, Bayo 1 sold about 1.3m with almost 10 times the player base of the WiiU.
In theory Bayonetta 2 should have sold about 130k... It end up selling 4.5 times that.
And im pretty sure this game turned a decent-good profit considering that
Re: Talking Point: Is Konami About To Exit The Console Game Business?
@Quorthon Should we blame Nintendo or the gamers ? im pretty sure if most of those games sell Nintendo will surely make more of them
Even Metroid, where everyone was crying for a new Metroid game, Metroid Prime 3 sold less than 2 million of copies, slightly more than MP2 on a console that has almost 4-5 times the player base.
Sure a lot of them havent even given the chance but still
Re: Talking Point: Is Konami About To Exit The Console Game Business?
Hopefully not... Konami will always hold a special place in my heart.
Ill never forget the countless hours of Contra with my brother
Re: Review: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker (3DS)
Was going to get this BUT... After the demo of Puzzle and Dragons and the fact that Asus games go on sale pretty often, im more than fine about waiting a few months
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
By the way, the 3DS sold 50m on December 31, im pretty sure almost 5 months in, it has sold at least a few millions
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
@Quorthon The vita is dead get over it, a huge part of those games are indie games which A) not exclusives B) they dont sell consoles, nobody buys a console for X indie game.
In that regard, indie developers DO care about the Vita because its easily ported
The vita and the WiiU are pretty much at the same point, and the Vita had a 10 month lead, its a handheld and its selling about the same as the WiiU (slightly better) ? and you dont think its dead?
Oh and for the record, the vita has 0 games that has more than 1 million units sold in Japan, zero, nada. In fact, and i would bet that the vita has only less games with more than 1 million units sold than the fingers on 1 of my hands.
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
@Quorthon Yes, the WiiU is dead, and we were talking about Japan not worldwide, where yes Sony is making a good job (The Vita is still dead worldwide, Vita 10m vs 55-60m 3DS).
By the way, the WiiU has already passed the DC, but thats irrelevant
I was talking about Japan, Japan is dying when it comes to gaming, they have 0 interest (at least for now) in all these new consoles... or maybe they are indeed making the shift to Smartphone gaming
Re: Nintendo Celebrates Japanese Launch Of Fire Emblem If With Themed Cover Plate & Bundle
@solcross ll take an IPS screen over cover plates any day
Re: Nintendo Download: 30th April (North America)
yay Paper Mario
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
By the way, XCX is sold out in Japan, i dont know what does that exactly mean but it is
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
@Quorthon No they arent ? PS2 was selling an average of 70k of units in their first 130 weeks, thats 2 and a half years straight... thats 9 million consoles
the PS4 ? 1.5m in 1 year and 2 months (roughly half), thats about 25k units iaverage in about 60 or so weeks.
How is that retaking Japan ? And the Vita is a nonfactor, its dead, seling LESS than a handheld that has 6 times its player base.
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
@JaxonH Oooh i did not get that
you are right, but i think the "media center" that are consoles seems to fit much more on the west than the east
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
@JaxonH I dont know if you didnt understand my comment, but i mean that gaming in general feels like dead weight in Japan... The PS4 got a decent week and fell flat, sure its doing better than the WiiU but the numbers are still terrible
Only the 3DS seems alive and that one is already hitting (if it didnt already) saturation point.
It really seems Smartphones are rekting everything
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Passes 100,000 Sales in Its Launch Week in Japan
Japan is slowly becoming a non factor when it comes to gaming
They dont care about anything :/
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X Paid-DLC Details Emerge With Characters, Quests and Skell Unlocks
I dont like DLC at all
but like ive always said, if the price is right and its actually done right, i dont mind paying for it
Re: Nintendo 3DS System Update 9.7.0-25 Has Stability To Spare
This is the best comment section LOL so many good jokes
Re: Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sales for Wii U and 3DS in 2015
@ikki5 the dreamcast got a massive price cut (to $149 first then to $299 and it end up making Sega losing even more money.
Im dead sure if Nintendo wanted they could reduce the price to $149 instead of $299 and it will sell much much better
But this are different plans, Nintendo tries to earns as much money as possible from every console aold where as Sega was just trying to sell what was left.
Comparing numbers its possible, but when the numbers are so close
Re: Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sales for Wii U and 3DS in 2015
@ikki5 the dreamcast got a massive price cut (to $149 first then to $299, effective 50%) and it end up making Sega lose even more money per console sold
Im dead sure if Nintendo wanted they could reduce the price to $149 instead of $299 and it will sell much much better
But this are different plans, Nintendo tries to earns as much money as possible from every console sold where as Sega was just trying to sell what was left.
Comparing numbers its possible and its right !, but when the numbers are so close you have to take a much more holistic view, "what are the companies doing", " w
How are them", etc...
I dont think nobody its naive enough to believe that the WiiU isnt a comercial failure, but its situation its not comparable to the DC because the whole context its completely different.
Re: Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sales for Wii U and 3DS in 2015
@sweetiepiejonus Just add an HDMI cable that supports 1080p and they are set
Re: Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sales for Wii U and 3DS in 2015
@ikki5 9.5m was 31 December 2014, you really think Nintendo didnt sold a single console in 4 months and 16 days ?
9.5m in 2 and a half years, that means around 3.5-4m a year, thats about 300k per month, considering the fall of the WiiU, IM SURE the console its AT LEAST doing 100k-150k per month to about 1-2m a year (50% year fall seems a decent assumption, if not a little too low), im estimating about 10m at this point, give or take
Re: Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sales for Wii U and 3DS in 2015
@ikki5 Im not arguing if the WiiU is a failure or not (it is) but paring both companies as a whole, i dont care what the N64 or the GC did back in the day because thats about 15 years ago. when i say their last 3 were success im obviously talking about Saturn/32X/CD vs Wii/3DS/DS).
I actually would LOVE if Nintendo goes only Handhelds, their handhelds tend to be much much better, imagine ALL Nintendo developers only focussing on 1 console at a time, it would not even need 3rd party support (ok it will, but they would be releasing a nintendo game every 2 months or so,and they tend to eat the competition in the Nintendo consoles)
Re: Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sales for Wii U and 3DS in 2015
@ikki5 "even the Dreamcast, the system which ruined Sega for consoles and considered an utter failure has sold better than the Wii U"
What about the Saturn ?, contrary to Nintendo which lastest 3 efforst are all success, the Sega Saturn was a mega fail and the 32X/CD were terrible too, the Nomad was another WTF... Sega could not resist another disaster, and, you know, they didnt.
And btw, the DC only sold 10m, impretty sure the WiiU has sold more or its around that number (Still bad, but it hasnt sold "better" like you said)
Im not defending Nintendo by the way, but its pretty naive to compare Companies without looking their previous efforts, the DC didnt kill Sega ? it was a domino, starting with the 32X, Saturn and end it up with the DC
Re: Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sales for Wii U and 3DS in 2015
@Harry_Legs If the WiiU is a failure
then what are the CD-i, 32X, 3DO or the Virtual Boy ?
(Not saying the WiiU isnt but...)
Re: Nintendo Download: 16th April (North America)
THEY ARE FINALLY HERE, PERFORMING FOR YOU
Re: Sales Fall Away in Japan as Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Drops to Ninth
Japan is diying
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Devours 1 Million Players In The West
@Moon Considering retailers must "buy" the games, 1 million shipped = 1 million sold for them AS OF NOW
if they want to ship more, they should be able to sell the 1 million
Re: Streets Of Rage 2, Gunstar Heroes And Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Are Your Next Sega 3D Classics
Rofl at Sega porting 16bit games and Nintendo not
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
@MasterBlaster The voice of the minority TENDS to be a lot louder than the majority, they are a lot more vocal about it.
dont get me wrong, i know it hurts some people, but I HARDLY believe people will base their decision to buy a game whatever it has voice chat or not, if you are or not buying it, it will not be based on that alone.
Remeber when people were crying and saying "we wont buy Destiny because its an only online game", yeah, lets see how did that turn out at the end,the game still sold millions and it was a terrible game anyway
Same as halo 5, people are saying that they wont buy Halo 5 because Halo MCC has such problems... im pretty sure Halo 5 will sell a crap ton either way
Make a product, make it desirable and it will far outweight its problems, and i think Nintendo has done a decent job in that regard with splatoon
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
People are putting way too much importance into the voice chat, as if the game will or will not sell well based only on that, voice chat has been always underused... I swear to god qhen im playing Dota 2 or CS:GO ranked the first thing i ask is "Does anyone have a mic, if so, please use it" which is followed by a dead silence or maybe 1 or 2 saying "i do".
Im not saying its not important, like i said earlier, rulling it out a 100% its was a little too much, having the option is nice also, but it wont be what made this game sell or not
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
@MasterBlaster im not sure about that, i dont think Nintendo think those games underperformed.
For once, Bayonetta 2 sold 600k+ on a console that had 7-8m users compared to Bayonetta 1 which craked about 1.2m on a combined userbase of 120m+ consoles
Same as DKTF, about 1m copies on 7-8m users vs 6m on 100m+ users
IF they werent stupid with their predictions, those are, albeit dissapointing as a whole, pretty good considering the user base of the console
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
@MasterBlaster i play Dota 2 and CS:GO all the time, 80-90% of the time i get a kid who sucks but will yell over the voice chat that its our fault.
How awesome its to have a terrible day at work just to get home to be tell that you are a worthless pos ? Which happens quite a bit on some "hardcore" games
I agree that games can be better with voice chat, sadly much more often than not it sucks and its an unpleasant situation of someone yelling and crying.
I do think rulling out the voice chat completely its kinda a little too extreme, "friends only" would have been a good middle point.
And to be fair, L4D its a pretty friendly game too, Dota 2, CS:GO and CoD are the real deal
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
@ferrers405 you mean like Gale of Darkness ? which is one of the pokemon games with the lowest amount of sales ?
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
@ferrers405 The last pokemon game on a console failed misserably, what makes you think this time it wont be the same (the installbase its pretty much the same)
Re: Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help Revive the Wii U?
Im not sure it will move many WiiUs but its really hard to tell, its making people turn their heads way too much to leave the possibility of this game selling many WiiUs out of the picture, not enough to revive the console but maybe put it in a better situation.
And while i would love a "friends voice chat" im kinda happy with it being left out BUT, i do think the most toxic people are on the PS4/XB1 community, i think this one would have fare like TF2 on PC where people just like to have fun without being too terribly into the competitive structure of needing to win every single match while yelling "OMG YOU SUCK AND SO DOES YOUR MOTHER".
That being said, ive yet to find a single online game besides TF2 where people were nice and happy, in that regard,im hapyy they left it out of the game
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Plans for DLC and Microtransactions Point to Changed Priorities
People hate on DLC because reasons
the problem with DLC comes with the amount of terrible developers giving terrible DLC content for outrageous prices, ($15 for 5 maps !!! are you kidding me !)
Nintendo so far has been doing it pretty well, some say amiibo might be paid DLC but A) its decently cheap, B) it works for more than one game and will work on the future C) its a figure that as cheap as may be its actually phisically and once DLC goes KIA that WILL STILL BE THERE , so i say the price is more than decent, so as long as Nintendo keeps doing its DLC on the same way they have been doing it i dont see the problem.
You guys surely didnt expect to get free content for free all the time right ? and, more importantly, Nintendo to stay out of the DLC business forever ?
Re: Talking Point: What We Expect from Nintendo Direct - 1st April
@Frank90 Sadly that would sell the incredible amount of 0 WiiU consoles
as much as i like F b (one of the best Nintendo IPs and one of my fav game series), Nintendo needs to sell WiiUs, FE does not sell them
Re: Nintendo Reveals the Final Club Nintendo Elite Rewards
Was 20 coins short on Plat status, and i was about to kill myself
Thankfully i own most of the 3DS games and i dont care for the others so... Advance Wars for me
Re: Nintendo Direct Confirmed for 1st April, With Updates on Wii U and 3DS
Treehouse after ? !!!!