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I do think Nintendo will have to release somekind of paid service, its the only way to keep the price of the console as low as possible (and software, obviously)

No surprise considering how weak are the ps4 and xb1.

They were mid range when they were relesed 2 years ago.

@PlywoodStick by the time of release the x1 will be more than a year old

The android machine using an X1 cost $200 btw

@PlywoodStick If its going to go with a Tegra, it will use the X1 not the K1.

This is a pretty optimistic article tho

The WiiU its a great console i love it, but its been dead for a long time, it delayed its dead with Splatoon and Mario Maker now but it was just that, a delay.

I dont think having Star Fox this year or next will make or break the WiiU, and for that i rather see Nintendo take their time and give us a Star Fox game we deserve and not one that will crash and burn and kill the series for good...

That stone cold stunner !

People saying "levels are not good" need to realize that the people making levels are not actual developers and have no idea what they are doing, some levels could be flashy but boring others challenging but unfair.

Thats the problems with this kind of games, especially in its early stages, once people get more and more familiar with the system levels shouls be getting better and better, dont expect everyone to be Miyamoto in a single week, thats downright stupid.

Is this Ascension or the original one ? Because the original one was pretty bland, boring and super slow.

They rectify a lot of things in Ascension, made it a very capable game

what. a. lovely. idea.

The best microtransactions are done by Valve, nuff said. Everything is cosmetic, nothing helps you be a better player

Still doesnt sound good enough and not a reason to stop playing either csgo, splatoon or tf2

@ejamer Howis that stupid ? if NX sells well enough dont you think companies will bring their games to it ? the reason because neither RE game or other games came to the WiiU was because it sold really bad

Like i said a few weeks ago somewhere i cant remember, the wii sold that well that some companies even adapated their games for the wii hardware (Activision), even thou they were "next gen" exclusives.

Same will happen with the NX if it does well.

Companies like money (when money > investment) they dont care about which console gives them money as long as its worth it.

@Mr_Trill281 the one that they did like 10 times was RE1 lol, that was getting a little out of hands

@Mr_Trill281 wut ? RE2 doesnt have a remake

This will take TIME

Im pretty sure late 2017, by that time NX will be out and it will depend if the console sold well or not.

If it does, im pretty sure capcom would not let the oportunity to get money untouched lol

@TheWPCTraveler @Malanta Each episide was $5 on PSN (although im not sure thatspossible anymore), on steam you could only buy the entire season for $25, but it goes on disscount pretty often, 1st season complete tipically at $5 dollars and 2nd season for $7.5

@TheWPCTraveler $5 dollars

TSM has a godlike csgo team too.

This is pretty big for smash 4 because big teams like TSM are starting to put money into it.

@vitalemrecords it will be 3 years in November

By the time the NX hits it will be pretty much 4 years

There are your 4 years

I have to ask

Have they treat poorly WiiU owners or have WiiU owners treat poorly third party developers ? Wii had some great third party sales, even some companies "adapted" their games to the Wii hardware (Call of Duty) mostly because (and to shut down those damn awful rumours) 3rd party sold WELL on the Wii.

But not on the WiiU,one could argue that was what brought wasnt enough but still... i dont think Third parties are the only ones to blame.

@Sinister They are trying to fund Project Cars 2 now

@KillScottKill Yes, but there are builds out there with better performance for comparable prices.

Not every PC needs to cost 2k you know ?

@AJ_Lethal and i doubt any developer would be dumb enough to use gameworks on consoles, they are just too weak.

All these talks about power and the ps4 and xb1 arent better than a low-mid entry gaming PC from 2 years ago.

Advertising can do wonders

Actually, its also too much for PS4 and XB1 and its terribly optimized for PC.

I think its time to get Shadow Wars...

@Yorumi I mean that was more or less where i was going, even if you can see how competitive a game can be, chances are that:

A) a few games dominate the scene (MOBA for example, its Dota 2, LoL and more or less Heroes of the Storm).

B) Theres no audience for that game/type.

Even some fighting games are childs play (SF4 might be the only comparable one, melee lags behind in terms of prize money) when compared to other bigger games, especially when it comes to "sponsors", there are 4 digits (and no, not 1000 dollars) contracts on SC2, Dota 2 and LoL...

Even if you can explain how "competitive" MK8 is, the reality its that theres 0 Racing game on the eSports scene, Trackmania (on ESWC) was the only one and it was dropped.

And i dont think MK8 would change that.

By the way, nobody cares about casual competition, im talking about playing with the big boys, for thousands of dollars. not for measly $100 for the winner, with companies behind X player and stuff.

@Kaze_Memaryu Im sure there are A LOT mechanics that needs to be found out. When Lotus Orb was added to the game, nobody knew how it would work out with X skills, or the new Aghanims upgrade, fox example... "Does WK aghanim works with Techies Suicide ?" Nobody knew untill someone tried. Or that some ulties give you invulnerability, like Manta Dodge, CK Ulti or Brewmaster Ulti... something thats NEVER been on the skill description. or even pulling or delaying the creep wave

Nothing its on the info of the skills/item

Dota 2 its really a cryptic game unless you play it A LOT, yet its played by millions every day and has one of the strongest competitive scenes after LoL (and a 16m tournament starting this week)

@dumedum @Dr_lufae Wut ? ZombiU had an average of 77, thats damn good, it had some bad reviews but it also had A LOT of great reviews. The 4 previews Devil Thirds had, all end up in the same thing... it sucks.

I dont get why people keeps using ZombiU as an example of a good game with bad reviews, the reviews were pretty good.

@PlywoodStick Voice chat is needed, but not for Pros, they dont use internal voice chats, most teams use Skype/Mumble/Ventrillo, and every single FPS player has their own console/monitor, so i dont see how that would be a problem.

@shani i do get your point

to be fair, any game can be competitive, Halo, Gears, even CoD where forced into the scene (and Halo end up dying at some point, and its on oxygen, Gears its 100% dead and CoD does has a strong following)

Nintendo could end up forcing MK/Splatoon into the scene with tournaments and stuff, but i dont see them being build up for that, at least not this iteration of each game (not competitive level, im talking about eSport) games that want to be taken seriously (like really serious) should be build up from the ground with that in mind.

But neither of those games are even close to the likes of Dota 2, CS:GO, LoL, SC2 or even SF which are tailored made with eSports/competive in mind, most of the games mentioned before never get patched or balanced more than a few months into the game's life, but Dota 2, CS:GO, etc... get patched/balanced regularly for years.

@Kaze_Memaryu Any of those games arent more cryptic than say... Dota 2

Especially Dota 2 where a lot of things interact with another in 1 way but not with others because reasons, and this game is doing a 16m tournament next week.

And the tutorials cover like 10% of stuff you can do ingame.

@electrolite77 How is he worng ? we havent played the game, they are the only ones to do so, for all we know its a terrible resolution upscalled to 720p, that it looks like HD doesnt mean its HD.

For all we know the only reason it looks "better" (not forme thou) than a PS2 game its that it runs at HD.

Im pretty sure DF will do a tech review of the game.

@electrolite77 Well, @damo isnt alone, robinson from Eurogamer said the same, and i quote:

"feels like it belongs in the sorrier scatterings of a PlayStation 2 bargain bin. Even if Devil's Third were being played in the time that its visuals and style clearly belong to, it would still come up short."

http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/devils_third/preview-3910.html look at the video, minute 5:17

and tell me if that its acceptable, THE DAMN CAR HAS NO TEXTURES, NOTHING... and by the way, IS THAT EVEN A CAR ?

Mario Kert 8 would never work imo, actually, i dont know about any racing game in the eSports scene.

Splatoon could work out with a few updates (or maybe next iteration), Smash/pokemon are already stablished would be better if Nintendo pushes them even further (especially Pokemon, i could become a HUGE hit in the eSports scene i mean).

But before anything like that happens, Nintendo really needs to change some of their decisions, they need to add (globally) voice chat, private matches, a "guild" system, options, and money to put in tournaments

If not, Nintendo will never make a crack.

@classicgamer78 Ill take 60fps over extra textures or polygons, any day of the week.

the smoothness of 60fps >>>>>>>>>> anything. 60fps games are way more pleaseant to the eye, the stuttering that comes from going back to 30fps its really hard to pass up.

@classicgamer78 At least all those gamecube visuals run at a stable 60fps

Not even stable 30fps lol

@Tempestryke Because you first need to pass the $60 dollar bracket to play a game

Im not sure im ready to gamble that money blindly, especially when its universally the consensus its that its bad, if you can, be my guess.

@rdrunner1178 the other 3 previews i found all pretty much say that this game sucks... (the links are on comment #153), one of them even say this might be the worst Nintendo published game ever

Videogamer.com - http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/devils_third/preview-3910.html

"Devil's Third is shaping up to be one of the worst games Nintendo has ever published."

NRW - http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/hands-on-preview/40748/devils-third-wii-u-hands-on-preview

"The single-player of Itagaki's latest is a drab, shallow adventure."

Eurogamer - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-07-15-devils-third-is-a-terrible-game-but-can-it-be-so-bad-its-good

"Have you ever pondered over the question of what would happen if Tomonobu Itagaki made a mash-up of Ninja Gaiden and Modern Warfare-era Call of Duty, most likely while drunk and working on a PlayStation 2 devkit with a fiver and a pocketful of loose change to bring it all home? Boy does Devil's Third have the answer for you. (...) Going from those first few hours, then, Devil's Third is undoubtedly a bad game. It pushes beyond that, even, to be a truly atrocious one, one that now teeters on the edge of becoming a glorious car crash you can't help but stop and stare at. I'm amazed that Nintendo has backed this mess"

I cant be the only one seeing the trend with this game, like a comment on eurogamer: "Devil's Turd"

@Hero-of-WiiU Literraly out of your comment #130

"Im sure if this was one the Wii no one would be complaining and would be amazed."

you brought Wii to the discussion, not me.

@Hero-of-WiiU The wii didnt even had HD capabilities, people knew what to expect, this is lazy.

graphics ARE part of a game, frame-rate ITS part of a game, they might not be the end-all be-all of a game, but they are indeed important. Nintendo knows about that, thats why 60fps are indeed a pillar of Nintendo games because they know that they not only make a game more responsive and look better (seriously, ill take 60fps over better graphics any freaking day of the week), it makes gameplay much better.

@Hero-of-WiiU So that means we should accept games looking like 2000 on 2015 ? on much more powerful hardware ?

The game runs and looks like a PS2 game... on 2015... 2 generations ahead.... and people are defending it, im really speechless

especially considering how Nintendo has manage to do games that look FAR better than this and runs at a steady 60fps. This is just a lazy developer.

@Achoo what ? Are you telling me that previews arent worth it ? @damo did what it had to do, say what the game looked and play like.

I dont know about you, but im not ready to spend $60 dolllars on a crappy game, do you remember the NES ERA ? I could have saved my family a fortune if i didnt buy every game that had a cool title and screenshot.

The preview was based on the review copy, i dont anything would magically change...

@sarkwalvein Intel CPU are better than AMD CPU, especialyl since the later has been rebranding and tunning their same old tech for years... but AMD does indeed have a great price/performance ratio.

a FX 8350 its pretty cheap for a quite decent 8core CPU for the "masses", core-per-core its nowhere near an Intel CPU but, in gaming, most CPUs are way way ahead of what you actually need and the FX-8350 for $160 more or less its a lot more than what you would actually need (i have an i5 4570, for the record),hell even the FX-6000 are decent. (again, always considering that AMD core speed its way lower than Intel core speed)

even some i3 (dual core) or the FX-4000 (Quad-core) are enough in some cases.

@Mr_Zurkon on the CPU front they indeed need something like this, hopefully this goes well

i seriously think APUs should be way more impactful in the market, they are indeed great once yu forget they arent designed for gaming