That's a weird coincidence. I was watching an old Game Sack episode on the 3DO the other day, which featured this game. Dave said something along the lines of 'I'd like to play this game on a current system with a decent framerate'. Several years later, out of nowhere, here it is...
@RupeeClock I can see that Argos have New Super Lucky's Tale for £9.99, however it is the download code only version so there is a catch and it's possible a lot of people bought it without realising. Either way, it is an excellent game
Played through Quake and the mission packs again recently and loved every moment of it. A remake would certainly be an enticing prospect, but I would be worried that they would struggle to recapture the unique atmosphere. Retaining the NIИ soundtrack should be compulsory.
@BrintaPap I've had that happen several times before, the only way I could get around it was by using a different browser to Chrome i.e. Edge. Very annoying!
This is a fair review, although I would probably have given it a 5. I bought it a while ago after seeing a positive review. Fortunately it was heavily discounted, as it's an incredibly mediocre game. I'll stick to NHL 94!
@TheFrenchiestFry Sure, I understand. I'm still catching up with PS1-era Final Fantasy so it isn't really aimed at me to be fair! I don't doubt the appeal of many of the games announced, however most of them aren't available until 2021 and a lot of them will now actually release on PS4 as well. This won't deter the early adopters, I just don't see how it convinces others to upgrade.
@playstation_king We might have to wait until the Tokyo Game Show for an update on Bravely Default II. A delay until 2021 feels almost inevitable.
@TheFrenchiestFry Really? I thought the PS5 showcase was massively underwhelming. I can't really see any reason to get it at launch other than Demon Souls.
@Stocksy Totally agree. If all of the games were on the one cart for $34.95 (plus the not inconsiderable shipping costs to the UK) I would buy it. I will just have to wait for the digital versions to get a significant discount instead.
Had my eye on this for a while, sounds amazing. Love a good cinematic platformer. I’ve been playing The Way over the past few days, which unfortunately is quite a frustrating game. This sounds far more enjoyable.
Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair is 50% a shooter It will probably have Thunder Force AC on it too.
Personally I could do without Puyo Puyo and two iterations of Columns, but it was almost inevitable they would be included. Overall it's looking like a very solid collection.
I would love to see more Model 1 and 2 games on there, however it seems like they are avoiding anything that didn't use conventional controls so that rules out Virtua Racing, Virtua Cop, Daytona etc.
@BreathingMiit I'm with you. Their behaviour is unacceptable, just because they want us to separate their products and their culture doesn't mean that we should act like good little consumers and keep on buying.
@suikoden There's plenty of other reviews out there doing exactly that, so why should they? The reviewer is entitled to their opinion, read a review elsewhere if you disagree with their assessment.
@Collette Deadly Premonitions Origins is not even remotely representative of what the Switch is capable of. It is debatable whether the 360 or Switch version is best, but the Director's Cut on PC runs much worse than both on significantly more powerful hardware. It's generally a poorly optimised and often a badly programmed game, and I say that as a big fan.
@The_Pixel_King I couldn't agree more. Offering a discount to those who bought the original game is certainly possible, The Adventures of Elena Temple: Definitive Edition has a massive discount for owners of the standard edition. I would say it's even more necessary in this case, as they are effectively admitting that there were serious issues with the non-Royal Edition.
@ramu-chan Yes of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the problem is you are presenting your opinions as fact.
The art style is indeed French, which has been apparent from the teaser trailer and was inevitable given the team developing the game. If you don't like that art style then fair enough, but to say it resembles a mobile game is fatuous. All of the art has been hand-drawn in a way rarely seen these days, and hundreds more hours would have been put into this than in a mobile game or the vast majority of pixel art indie titles.
There are plenty of people who are comparing this favourably to Sonic Mania, and they are both excellent examples of how to pull off a comeback. I would argue that SOR4 is actually superior in terms of its ambition. Sonic Mania is great, but it relies too much on recycling existing assets and is merely an evolution of the concept rather than adding anything original. If we hadn't been starved of decent 2D Sonic games for 25 years this wouldn't have been so easily forgiven. If you want the equivalent of that, fortunately Streets of Rage Remake already exists.
@ramu-chan From NintendoWorldReport, 'I feel that Streets of Rage 4 shares a lot in common with Sonic Mania. Both game’s were led by development teams who had the challenge of continuing classic and beloved series. I’m happy to say that the dev teams creating Streets of Rage 4 have completely succeeded in making a new 2D entry in the series much like the Sonic Mania dev teams did. The utmost respect for the source material is clear'. So that's someone who has played the game at length completely contradicting what you said.
@JayJ Couldn't agree more. There's so much wrong with some of these complaints, and the review on this site is rather disappointing.
Having the reticule on top is not an 'odd visual quirk', it's a deliberate design choice and is consistent with many other games in this genre.
Complaining about the brevity of the game is a little unfair, this is a remake and they were never going to add new content. Games from the '80s and early '90s would often only take 15-30 minutes to complete once you had mastered them, usually over the course of many weeks or months. This isn't an easy game, and you certainly aren't going to see the full story by completing hard mode on your first try.
For those who wish to criticise the game, I wouldn't cite the GameXplain review to justify your position. Look at the ratings and the comments for that video, the majority disagree with the reviewer and even he says that it is still a great game.
@FantasiaWHT The only things I can recall them adding were a few challenge rooms and the option to play as Wonder Girl. Not a criticism of the port, it was a very skillfully done remake of one of the best games of all time.
I think the 'vania' part is justified if there is levelling up and/or inventory management for items collected and purchased, as that's what Symphony of the Night contributed to the formula. However, I still contend that the first Metroidvania was Wonderboy 3: The Dragon's Trap, it even has a SOTN-style prologue!
This is an amazing game, and I don't agree that it wasn't worth the original asking price. A playthrough takes 20-25 hours, which is quite long for a Metroidvania, and there is more variety than almost every other game in this genre. 50% off is a bargain. I really hope there is a sequel.
'Some frame rate issues when things get busy onscreen' doesn't indicate constant dips, so it's really not something worth getting overly upset about.
For those waiting for the price to drop, you will be lucky if it drops by more than £10. Zelda titles tend to hold their value. Maybe there will be a Switch equivalent of Nintendo Selects one day.
@GrailUK Good post. Unfortunately it was inevitable that publishing this article would lead to inflammatory and ignorant comments. It would have been better not to bother, and let us stick to purely talking about games. If I want to debate with people about animal rights or politics then I will do it elsewhere.
Seriously, 'a game that was only ever considered decent even back in the day' and 'isn’t one of Sega’s masterpieces'?! Complete and utter heresy. Space Harrier is one of the greats.
@dugan No worries There's so many better alternatives on the Switch that it's probably only worth checking out if you're a big fan of the genre and if it's heavily discounted on the eShop.
This looks very promising, clearly heavily influenced by Contra Hard Corps. If it can deliver on being a spiritual successor to that then we're in for a treat
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Re: Here's Your First Look At The Gex Trilogy For Nintendo Switch
@Zeebor15 The original voice actor was Dana Gould, but this sounds like Jon St. John aka Duke Nukem to me.
Re: Comedy Horror 'Killing Time: Resurrected' Announced By Nightdive Studios
That's a weird coincidence. I was watching an old Game Sack episode on the 3DO the other day, which featured this game. Dave said something along the lines of 'I'd like to play this game on a current system with a decent framerate'. Several years later, out of nowhere, here it is...
Re: Capcom Begins Mega Man's 35th Anniversary Celebrations With Logo Reveal
Ah yes, everyone loves the 'blub bomber'
Re: UK Charts: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Takes Pole In A Switch-Exclusive Top Three
@RupeeClock I can see that Argos have New Super Lucky's Tale for £9.99, however it is the download code only version so there is a catch and it's possible a lot of people bought it without realising. Either way, it is an excellent game
Re: Quake Listing Appears, Including A Switch Version
Played through Quake and the mission packs again recently and loved every moment of it. A remake would certainly be an enticing prospect, but I would be worried that they would struggle to recapture the unique atmosphere. Retaining the NIИ soundtrack should be compulsory.
Re: Switch Online NES And SNES Controllers Are Back In Stock, NES Bundle 50% Off (Europe)
@BrintaPap I've had that happen several times before, the only way I could get around it was by using a different browser to Chrome i.e. Edge. Very annoying!
Re: No Joke, PlatinumGames Is Releasing Sol Cresta On The Nintendo Switch
Side-scrolling?
Re: The First Review For Bravely Default II Is Now In
Got to love that 'old-fashioned cham'.
Re: Nintendo Indie World Showcase To Air Tomorrow, 15th December
@TheFullAndy You forgot Metroid Prime Trilogy HD
Re: Mini Review: Super Blood Hockey - Violent Sports Action That Gets Tired Too Quickly
This is a fair review, although I would probably have given it a 5. I bought it a while ago after seeing a positive review. Fortunately it was heavily discounted, as it's an incredibly mediocre game. I'll stick to NHL 94!
Re: Horace, A Quirky, Nostalgic Robot Platformer, Comes To Switch Later This Month
Good news, I have this on my Steam wishlist but would much prefer to play it on Switch.
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Recreates Classic 3D Mario Moments In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
@NintendoKnight ‘So hung, King Bowser’ 🤔
Re: We Can Expect More Nintendo Direct Mini Partner Showcases This Year
@TheFrenchiestFry Sure, I understand. I'm still catching up with PS1-era Final Fantasy so it isn't really aimed at me to be fair! I don't doubt the appeal of many of the games announced, however most of them aren't available until 2021 and a lot of them will now actually release on PS4 as well. This won't deter the early adopters, I just don't see how it convinces others to upgrade.
@playstation_king We might have to wait until the Tokyo Game Show for an update on Bravely Default II. A delay until 2021 feels almost inevitable.
Re: We Can Expect More Nintendo Direct Mini Partner Showcases This Year
@TheFrenchiestFry Really? I thought the PS5 showcase was massively underwhelming. I can't really see any reason to get it at launch other than Demon Souls.
Re: Ori And The Will Of The Wisps Launches On Switch Today
@Tangerine Ouch! Seems like a missed opportunity to not sell a standard physical edition.
Re: Classic Run-And-Gun Blaster Turrican Is Making A Comeback, And Fans Might Need Deep Pockets
@Stocksy Totally agree. If all of the games were on the one cart for $34.95 (plus the not inconsiderable shipping costs to the UK) I would buy it. I will just have to wait for the digital versions to get a significant discount instead.
Re: Review: The Eternal Castle [Remastered] - The Cinematic Platformer Reimagined In Dazzling Style
Had my eye on this for a while, sounds amazing. Love a good cinematic platformer. I’ve been playing The Way over the past few days, which unfortunately is quite a frustrating game. This sounds far more enjoyable.
Re: 13 More Games Have Just Been Confirmed For Sega's Astro City Mini Console
Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair is 50% a shooter It will probably have Thunder Force AC on it too.
Personally I could do without Puyo Puyo and two iterations of Columns, but it was almost inevitable they would be included. Overall it's looking like a very solid collection.
I would love to see more Model 1 and 2 games on there, however it seems like they are avoiding anything that didn't use conventional controls so that rules out Virtua Racing, Virtua Cop, Daytona etc.
Re: Spike Chunsoft's Summer Sale Offers Up To 80% Off Selected Switch Titles
Hmm... tempted by STEINS;GATE 0 but really would prefer it if they released a physical version.
Re: Ubisoft's Second E3-Style Broadcast Will Take Place This September
@BreathingMiit I'm with you. Their behaviour is unacceptable, just because they want us to separate their products and their culture doesn't mean that we should act like good little consumers and keep on buying.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis Of Deadly Premonition 2 On Switch
@suikoden There's plenty of other reviews out there doing exactly that, so why should they? The reviewer is entitled to their opinion, read a review elsewhere if you disagree with their assessment.
Re: Review: Deadly Premonition 2: A Blessing in Disguise - A Fun Game, In Disguise
@Ralizah You don't need to wait long, it is being released physically on Friday.
Re: Ori Dev Thinks It Would Be "Extremely Difficult" To Get The Sequel Running At 60fps On Switch
@Collette Deadly Premonitions Origins is not even remotely representative of what the Switch is capable of. It is debatable whether the 360 or Switch version is best, but the Director's Cut on PC runs much worse than both on significantly more powerful hardware. It's generally a poorly optimised and often a badly programmed game, and I say that as a big fan.
Re: Switch Fighter Aims To Turn Your Switch Into A Table-Top Arcade System
It doesn't specify on the campaign whether the joystick is micro switched. If it isn't, this is obsolete.
Re: Sega's Game Gear Micro Might Not Be The "Revolutionary" Scoop Famitsu Has Been Teasing
This is so underwhelming it's almost funny. Wasn't this supposed to rival the reveal of the PS5?
Re: Review: Battle Princess Madelyn Royal Edition - One Step Forward, Two Steps Back
@The_Pixel_King I couldn't agree more. Offering a discount to those who bought the original game is certainly possible, The Adventures of Elena Temple: Definitive Edition has a massive discount for owners of the standard edition. I would say it's even more necessary in this case, as they are effectively admitting that there were serious issues with the non-Royal Edition.
Re: Review: Streets of Rage 4 - A Perfect Modernisation Of A Beloved Franchise
@ramu-chan Yes of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the problem is you are presenting your opinions as fact.
The art style is indeed French, which has been apparent from the teaser trailer and was inevitable given the team developing the game. If you don't like that art style then fair enough, but to say it resembles a mobile game is fatuous. All of the art has been hand-drawn in a way rarely seen these days, and hundreds more hours would have been put into this than in a mobile game or the vast majority of pixel art indie titles.
There are plenty of people who are comparing this favourably to Sonic Mania, and they are both excellent examples of how to pull off a comeback. I would argue that SOR4 is actually superior in terms of its ambition. Sonic Mania is great, but it relies too much on recycling existing assets and is merely an evolution of the concept rather than adding anything original. If we hadn't been starved of decent 2D Sonic games for 25 years this wouldn't have been so easily forgiven. If you want the equivalent of that, fortunately Streets of Rage Remake already exists.
Re: Review: Streets of Rage 4 - A Perfect Modernisation Of A Beloved Franchise
@ramu-chan From NintendoWorldReport, 'I feel that Streets of Rage 4 shares a lot in common with Sonic Mania. Both game’s were led by development teams who had the challenge of continuing classic and beloved series. I’m happy to say that the dev teams creating Streets of Rage 4 have completely succeeded in making a new 2D entry in the series much like the Sonic Mania dev teams did. The utmost respect for the source material is clear'. So that's someone who has played the game at length completely contradicting what you said.
Re: Review: Streets of Rage 4 - A Perfect Modernisation Of A Beloved Franchise
Sega need to let these guys resurrect any and as many of their dormant franchises as they desire. Golden Axe next?
Re: Deadly Premonition 2: A Blessing In Disguise Comes Exclusively To Switch This July
Can't wait for this
Re: PlatinumGames' Fourth Reveal Turned Out To Be An April Fools' Joke
Oh dear, this will backfire!
Re: Panzer Dragoon: Remake Will Patch In Saori Kobayashi's Remixed Soundtrack
@JayJ Couldn't agree more. There's so much wrong with some of these complaints, and the review on this site is rather disappointing.
Having the reticule on top is not an 'odd visual quirk', it's a deliberate design choice and is consistent with many other games in this genre.
Complaining about the brevity of the game is a little unfair, this is a remake and they were never going to add new content. Games from the '80s and early '90s would often only take 15-30 minutes to complete once you had mastered them, usually over the course of many weeks or months. This isn't an easy game, and you certainly aren't going to see the full story by completing hard mode on your first try.
For those who wish to criticise the game, I wouldn't cite the GameXplain review to justify your position. Look at the ratings and the comments for that video, the majority disagree with the reviewer and even he says that it is still a great game.
Re: Review: Panzer Dragoon: Remake - Doesn’t Quite Nail The Landing
@FantasiaWHT I believe you are thinking of Galaxy Force II. There's a fantastic port of the arcade version available on the 3DS.
Re: Review: Panzer Dragoon: Remake - Doesn’t Quite Nail The Landing
@FantasiaWHT The only things I can recall them adding were a few challenge rooms and the option to play as Wonder Girl. Not a criticism of the port, it was a very skillfully done remake of one of the best games of all time.
Re: PETA Takes A Dig At Animal Crossing: New Horizons With 'Vegan Guide' To The Game
@LetsGoSwitch Very much so.
Re: Video: Watch The Launch Trailer For Kunai, Switch's Latest Metroidvania
I think the 'vania' part is justified if there is levelling up and/or inventory management for items collected and purchased, as that's what Symphony of the Night contributed to the formula. However, I still contend that the first Metroidvania was Wonderboy 3: The Dragon's Trap, it even has a SOTN-style prologue!
Re: Monster Boy Celebrates Its First Anniversary With A Half-Price Digital Sale
This is an amazing game, and I don't agree that it wasn't worth the original asking price. A playthrough takes 20-25 hours, which is quite long for a Metroidvania, and there is more variety than almost every other game in this genre. 50% off is a bargain. I really hope there is a sequel.
Re: Fantasy Zone Is The Latest Sega Ages Game To Hit Japan
I had such high hopes for this series. How about some System 32 or Model 2 games? Other than Virtua Racing it all feels very unambitious.
Re: Random: Academy Award Winner Brie Larson's Mind Was Just Blown By Doug Bowser
@Silly_G Judging someone else's love life like that comes across as rather sad and bitter. Maybe try to keep those sort of thoughts to yourself.
Re: OK Bitmap Bureau, With This Xeno Crisis Review Copy, You Are Really Spoiling Us
@YANDMAN My thoughts exactly!
Re: Review: The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening - A Magical Remastering Of A Series Highlight
'Some frame rate issues when things get busy onscreen' doesn't indicate constant dips, so it's really not something worth getting overly upset about.
For those waiting for the price to drop, you will be lucky if it drops by more than £10. Zelda titles tend to hold their value. Maybe there will be a Switch equivalent of Nintendo Selects one day.
Re: Review: Whipseey And The Lost Atlas - A Kirby Clone That's Over In The Blink Of An Eye
Is it really necessary to discuss the frame rate for every single game?
Re: Random: Cooking Mama: Cookstar Receives Award From PETA For Including Vegetarian Mode
@GrailUK Good post. Unfortunately it was inevitable that publishing this article would lead to inflammatory and ignorant comments. It would have been better not to bother, and let us stick to purely talking about games. If I want to debate with people about animal rights or politics then I will do it elsewhere.
Re: Review: SEGA AGES Space Harrier - A Tremendous Port Of An Okay Coin-Op
Seriously, 'a game that was only ever considered decent even back in the day' and 'isn’t one of Sega’s masterpieces'?! Complete and utter heresy. Space Harrier is one of the greats.
Re: Teslagrad's Physical Switch Edition Launches This September
@dugan No worries There's so many better alternatives on the Switch that it's probably only worth checking out if you're a big fan of the genre and if it's heavily discounted on the eShop.
Re: Teslagrad's Physical Switch Edition Launches This September
I've got the Wii U physical edition. Quite a nice game, but the controls are a little too slippery at times making some of the puzzles frustrating.
Re: Contra And Metal Slug-Inspired Platformer Blazing Chrome Comes To Switch This July
This looks very promising, clearly heavily influenced by Contra Hard Corps. If it can deliver on being a spiritual successor to that then we're in for a treat
Re: Panzer Dragoon: Remake Landing On Switch This Winter
So pleased that this is happening. What a beautiful game.
Re: Ghostbusters: The Video Game Remastered Busts Onto Switch Later This Year
I've been wanting to play this for quite a while. Hope it gets a physical release.
Re: Earthworm Jim 1 & 2 Getting A SNES Reprint Courtesy Of iam8bit
@smashboy2000
Completely agree! Not a good deal at all.