When you start your island life in Animal Crossing: New Horizons, you're immediately tasked with gathering resources by picking fruit from trees, fishing, bug catching, and more. These activities help your island to grow thanks to Tom Nook's Nook Miles scheme, but should players be a little more concerned about their actions?
PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) has issued a 'Vegan Guide to Animal Crossing', listing all of the things you can and can't do to keep up with a vegan lifestyle. It kicks things off by saying that you shouldn't fish, describing it as "cruel" and "bad for the environment"; you shouldn't catch bugs; you shouldn't work towards the Museum, because "bugs don’t belong in tiny cases in a museum for other villagers to gawk at"; and that you shouldn't dig up clams.
In a shocking section titled 'Is Tom Nook Exploiting you?', the guide explains that Tom is a racoon dog, an animal often killed for fur. It says you should probably "cut him some slack" because his family may have been beaten, electrocuted, gassed, or skinned alive. Sheesh.
So what can you do? Well, you can eat fruit. PETA uses the added abilities you gain when eating fruit to bolster its point on why this is a good thing, and goes on to say that you can help promote veganism with banners and the like.
It's worth noting that the guide appears to be something of a publicity stunt and not entirely serious; the promotion of animal welfare is obviously a wonderful thing, but we dare say that most Animal Crossing players wouldn't actually go and rip hermit crabs from their homes to sell them in real life.
What do you think? Do you think PETA has a point, and that we should reflect on our actions in games like Animal Crossing: New Horizons, or do you think this is all a little out of proportion? Have your say in the comments.
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Comments (146)
PETA can kiss my buttocks
Does anyone truly like Peta? They seem to jump on whatever is currently popular, and somehow turn it to their needs, and it is never well received. I am a Vegan, and I cannot stand the rep they give us.
You would think one day PETA would realize that doing this to video games only hurts their already pretty damn poor reputation. They need a new person in charge of marketing. Hell they've needed one for a couple decades now.
PETA is the last thing in this universe I would listen to or care about, bunch of clowns.
Can PETA just, like, die already? (Pleeeeease?)
This is a publicity stunt of a organization that kills animals while pretending to care about them. By posting an article like this you are giving them the exposure they want to continue with their highly problematic practices. Just do a bit of research of what PETA truly does and you'll quickly learn there is nothing ethical about them.
There are rational arguments to support the positions of the organization in question. However, it seems time and time again its true mission is publicity and aggrandizement.
It's very hard to tell when PETA is being " not entirely serious".
If that's how want to live your life then go ahead...but don't take a game too seriously.
This seems more like a troll post so they get media attention - which obviously worked.
@CasNicks I think, for any semi intelligent human being anyways, that posting this article only makes PETA look more idiotic. More exposure of their idiotic publicity stunts means more people realize them for what they truly are these days. Unless they're going for clicks on their site which I don't give them.
@Alpha-2002 Time to start PECHC. People for the Ethical Cleansing of Horrible Corporations. Try to make PETA atleast a shell of what they formerly were ages ago.
Isn't this a tradition with every AC game?
tiny cages? Have they actually played the game?
@Joker13z You do realize, if PECHC were a thing, PETA wouldn't even crack the top 50 right?
@Assassinated Well duh lol. It was a joke man geez. Yes there are way way worse companies and organizations out there. Figured that was implied.
This is a great reverse-psychology McDonald's ad.
How does fishing harm the environment? I'm too lazy to search it up- is it true?
I’m all for animal rights, but PETA is the absolute worst. Needlessly divisive and no point is too low for them to stoop to if it means getting media coverage.
Curious: when Xenoblade Chronicles 2 came out, was Mor Ardain's reign over Gormott highlighted for the topic of feline abuse IRL?
Peta needs to be ignored by the media they are muppets.
I agree with Peta, the vegan lifestyle is best. Thanks for the guide Peta.
Here’s a reminder that PETA’s animal shelters kill the majority of animals they take in and the company has a track record of financially backing domestic ecoterrorist groups.
@LetsGoSwitch Very much so.
Why give them any attention?
Who the hell still listens to what PETA have to say anymore?
It's relatively funny and cutesy to do this but one of the main gripes people have with vegans is the preaching, so getting on the Animal Crossing bandwagon to preach in a virtual world where people are escaping to in their droves at this time of global crisis is possibly a bit tone deaf...
You'd think I'd know better than to click into an article with the acronym "PETA" in the headline.... facepalm
Seriously, there are better, more informed, and way less hypocritical animal welfare organizations out there.
Thanks PETA for reminding me I should have a burger tonight.
To all those non-vegetarians/vegans, don't think for a minute that PETA represents those communities. PETA is the absolute worst thing for the vegan community. Their only purpose seems to be to annoy everyone, telling people what to do, which causes the larger culture to get annoyed at vegans. I've been a vegetarian for nearly 20 years, and the world would be a much much much better place if PETA were to go away for good. The vegetarian & vegan lifestyle speaks for itself of the benefits, individually and beyond. We don't need some pushy front group going out of their way to act like entitled brats to the entire world.
@LetsGoSwitch Fishing boats polute the water, fishing leaves trash in the ocean, it's kills too many fish and we can't control population good, the ocean needs lots of fish to stay healthy. Fishing is bad for the environment and very cruel. Killing animals is cruel.
Animals cry, they have feelings.
Do Shut Up, PETA !
PETA has absolutely no say in this. It’s a video game, that which I play to escape reality. If I wanna catch, donate, and release bugs, fish, and clams, I’m going to do it.
This is so annoying and stupid. PETA and extreme vegans are cancer.
@smithpa01 if they do that, make sure it isn't open-mouth, they may not be vegan anymore if they do, lol
Why is PETA such an idiotic company that they think this is an issue at all?
@TheDragonDAFan don’t forget kidnapping pets and euthanising them! Seriously PETA are awful.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down
@LetsGoSwitch Fishing by rod and line such as in Animal Crossing causes zero impact to the environment, however other commercial methods such as dredging can destroy the seabed if not done responsibly. Scallop dredging for example is fairly violent. Then there is overfishing which is harmful to fish stocks, see for example cod and sea bass.
Recreational fishing is completely harmless (especially in a video game).
@Glassneedles Its for the greater good, Peta isn't perfect.
@TheDragonDAFan And a reminder that governments, who call activists "domestic ecoterrorists" even though most are explicitly non-violent, actually are terrorists themselves by definition (using violence and fear to achieve political goals and power).
As a vegan, I think this action might be pointless, but that doesn't excuse the vile hatred I see here towards people who just want people to stop exploiting other species on this planet, like the very ironic "bloody vegans" and "vegans are cancer" I read, and all these "animal friends and lovers" who eat animals and wear their skins, who call the Chinese monsters for killing dogs and PETA racist, but are so eager to point out the inconsistencies in vegans (true, in many vegans there are a bunch of inconsistencies, veganism is only one of the pillars of freedom and equality, no masters and no slaves)...
The only PETA I like is this one:
People Eating Tasty Animals
What? Do the ladies and gentlemen at PETA know, how the museum in AC:NH even looks like? O_o Bugs and fishes have enough room and space to live in. It's definitely a lot more compared to some people putting Kois into small aquariums/tiny fish tanks in real life.
@Ooccoo_Jr That's not true, many leave hooks in the fishes, lines and nets in the water, fish guts in the water, etc. They also don't follow rules and can hurt population control.
@Ooccoo_Jr That's completely wrong. It would be harmless if you didn't literally harm an animal each time you catch one. It isn't about "fish stock", that's like saying people who die while working is harmless because there's no damage done to the labour force stock.
@mesome713 If you think killing animals is wrong, then you should not be supporting PETA, please read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/avqyxn/whats_the_deal_with_people_saying_peta_kills/
It’s more likely that Tom Nook’s family was ‘disappeared my for not paying their loan on time. You only need to look into his cool, dead eyes to know he’s a raccoon dog that will stop at nothing to collect what he’s due...
Has animal violence in video games gone too far?!
@MimoDX2 Peta isn't perfect, but they are still good.
@Mana_Knight My roommate is a true believer in them... somehow. I dunno how, they seem to directly work against anyone taking vegans seriously.
@mesome713 I can understand the argument that we shouldn’t have pets. I don’t agree with it but I can see the points they make.
What I don’t agree with is them kidnapping people’s pets and killing them. All that talk about the greater good seems seriously chilling. Do you support people having pets? If not do you think steps should be taken to remove existing pets? I’m trying not to straw man here but it sounds like you are defending kidnapping and the murder of people’s dogs, please tell me that isn’t the case.
I’ve already lost most of my faith in humanity.
@mesome713 No, they are most certainly not good. Find another animal activist group. Literally any other one is better than PETA
@Shambo @mesome713 I am a qualified Fisheries Officer, so trust me, it's harmless.
@Glassneedles I support pets, for the greater good of having them evolve and soon be able to talk through domestication.
@Dramlin Omnivore here, though one who has reduced their animal protein a little, particularly in the red meat department. I have no problem with vegetarians and vegans; people can eat what they want and are comfortable with in my book. The problem that I have is when any individual or group, such as PETA, obscenely preaches about one style of eating and comdemns other styles like what you're getting at. There are various reasons why some diets aren't for everyone, reasons that would turn this post into a book.
Sorry for the monologue. I'm basically saying that I agree with you.
Peta isn't perfect, neither is people who kill and eat animals...but both are still good.
Hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah wait you're serious?
@mesome713 peta murders animals, and are just absolute idiots. They say that sheep shouldn't have their wool shaved off yet sheep can actually die if you dont shave it off. Everyone at peta is an idiot and so is everyone who actually supports them
Don't report on anything PETA related. You're giving them what they want: attention.
@Shambo Is Rodney Coronado, who received funding from PETA and committed an act of arson in the name of animal rights "non-violent"? Is the Earth Liberation Front, who have committed multiple acts of arson and violence and also received funding from PETA "non-violent"? I never said all pro-animal rights pro-veganism groups are terrorists. What I did say was that PETA has supported multiple groups and people who use violence and arson to support their cause, which is terrorism.
I've just built a little quarantine zone out of barbed wire for all the vegans who visit my island
PETA is clear and undeniable proof, that "rock bottom" has SEVERAL basements.😂
i tried too play Breath of the Wild without harming animals but i might have run over some geese while racing my horse
Nintendo Life: Respectfully, why give these trolls and bad actors a second of your time?
There are goofs and there are stupidity. PETA showing is proof of Stupidity going for the lowest common denominator. I thought they would be smarter then this but this obviously shows they clearly have no forethought and will come back to bite them.
Lunatics they are.
Oh, great. We're already in a wonderful situation as it is, let's now once again allow PETA to ruin what is supposed to be a fun way of escaping the real world, instead of just playing it and not feeling guilty about what you're "doing" to a bunch of rearranged and programmed ones and zeroes...
Yeah I remember years ago when one of the Mario game reintroduced the Tanouki suit PETA put out a thing about Mario being evil because he killed one and wore it. Stupid PETA.
So far my character has only eaten oranges...mmmmm...tasty oranges! I don't recall an option to eat that sturgeon I caught...IT IS FREAKING DIGITAL!
@mesome713 I understand where you are coming from, PETA or not, we kill animals. But PETA does not care about things such as eating meat, getting leather, etc, they have twisted beliefs about the world, they think humans are below animals, and yet believe that all animals should be dead. They kill thousands of dogs and cats, you know, those fluffy things that appear on youtube for memes and stuff? Yeah, they kill those.
Sorry, but PETA is not your friend, nor are they friend of animals, they are just twisted human beings. They are not "good".
PETA is still a thing?
complete loonies, who often cite their freedom to express such views, while at the same time ignoring everyone else, and stating their views don't count.
@Ooccoo_Jr I don't think that makes you a reliable authority, on the contrary. The fish definitely wouldn't agree.
If someone were to slam a meat hook through your mouth, suffocate you, decapitate you or toss you back with a gaping wound, would you say it's harmless? Would you "trust" them if they, in all their self-proclaimed authority, would claim it's harmless because they don't understand (or simply don't see it as a factor) that you too feel fear and pain and suffering, and would you deny your personal suffering because your "stock" wasn't really harmed that much? Is murder and torture ok ("zero kills") as long as it's not genocide and systematic physically violent abuse - which fishery in any way, shape, or form, IS?
I mean.....the entire game is about pillaging the environment with consequence. It's best not to think too deeply here while playing.
@Shambo Harmless to the environment. The original post was about the environment not the individual fish. Go back and read the thread properly.
I have an Animal Crossing guide for PETA:
1) Get a shovel
2) Dig a hole (don't upset Mr. Resetti)
3) Jump in
4) Never go out
5) Stay there until you're forgotten
Yeah, I don't like Blathers either. If only he liked butterflies... But no, he hates those beautiful creatures too. I hate bugs that can harm people. If they're harmless, they're fine.
There are angry people in all sub-cultures. For every angry/hateful-vegan, there is a meat-eater doing just the same - and some of the hate in this thread is horrible. It would be a great thing if BOTH cut that sh*t out.
The intention behind veganism CAN be beautiful and deeply respectful to all creatures - and I DEEPLY respect that!
I actually want to follow the example of genuinely compassionate people more and more (and not those who are interested in veganism for less than virtuous reasons - like fashion!) and that MAY lead me to be a full-time vegan eventually. However if I can't do that whilst fully respecting the choices of meat-eaters then I'll not go there. But I think it's possible to respect everyone whatever our personal life-choice preferences – we don't need to like everything other people do to still respect everyone as a human/living being.
PETA hasn't managed to do that - and I think they need to dissolve - they have proved they are not acting in a way that is helping the world or the vegan voices – and I'd like to see more skilful and utterly non-violent voices taking their place.
If I go fully vegan I plan to continue playing Animal Crossing.
What about luring, kidnapping and killing little girls’ dogs? That should surely be on any pro-animal rights sign too.
PETA is just mad that you can't kill all the animals to "save" them...
Jokes aside, PETA is absolute poison to the general reputation of Animal Rights Activism.
I'm also against hunting and catching animals for sports.
But not only is it a bloody videogame, it's also mildly educational.
So yeah, play videogames, catch your digital fish and critters, learn about breeds and species, look them up and see what you can do to protect the real life equivalent.
Just ignore this farce of an organisation.
And do yourself and others the favor and don't confuse PETA and other Vegan-Crusaders for veganism in general.
As many already said, veganism is something that's actually highly respectable. So please treat it like that.
Vegan-crusading like that can get bitten by a tarantula for all i care though...
@Ooccoo_Jr And veganism, what the message is about, is about the suffering of individuals. So I think you nor the writer understand the subject. Veganism is a lifestyle in which you avoid all harm to anyone who can suffer. That PETA are not the perfect representatives for that is obvious, probably no one is actually, but the fact that even saying the name PETA, or even just the word vegan, or trying to make people even just THINK about how they harm the animals you DO care about and how they can simply stop that, gets you a sh*tload of hate, isn't really saying much good about the state humanity is in...
PETA never have been and never need to be relevant.
Just a bunch of liberal hippies desperate for attention.
PETA is an absolute parasite to the animal rights movement
PETA, though often annoying, is actually right. Animals arent food. Anyone who wants to eat an animal should be forced to actually kill it themselves.
Bet we'd see a spike in vegetarianism real quick.
@TheDragonDAFan You could argue that burning down a building is violence. You could argue that burning down an empty building in which lives were systematically ended is a necessary act to END systematic violence.
Now, I don't know these names, I know PETA isn't the perfect representative of veganism, in the eyes of many, I don't know all that much about them myself. I do know some of the kindest, most non-violent people I ever worked with on international scale, were just like me considered terrorists, leaders of terrorist groups, domestic terrorists,... And all we did was strictly non-violently sabotage hunting. Those calling us terrorists threatened us, broke several people's bones (even one's jaw on both sides), stabbed one with a knife through the hand while aiming for much more damage, smeared dead foxes' organs over the windows of the cars of our people, stabbed deer down and watched as the hounds tore them to shreds on command, shot entire families of deer, swine, foxes, birds of many different sorts, all bred to be killed, for "fun" and "tradition".
When we protested at some slaughterhouses that were exposed for (mass murder aside) "inhumane" acts, animal farmers flipped some people's cars and threatened others. And those are just a few things I can talk about publicly, of the many things I know about and experienced, of the even more things going on. The fight for animal rights is as much a fight as the fight for women's rights and black people's rights, and the media propaganda is as one sided as it always was (until they're losing credibility over it, which will inevitably happen). If you weren't present on the frontlines, you may want to not judge the actions the victims and/or defenders thereof considered necessary at the time, especially when the violence and lies of the the bio-industry are the socially accepted standard and control most of the media.
The internet trolls seem to be out in full force, griping and whining about Animal Crossing, New Horizons. First review-bombing, and now this. I wonder why it's drawing so much criticism for such nonsensical reasons...
Dear PETA,
It’s just a game.
As with everything from PETA, this is eye rollingly stupid. I will address only this:
"'Is Tom Nook Exploiting you?'"
Ah look, this meme again. For decades now, Tom Nook has been giving us interest-free home loans and letting us pay them off at our own pace. If that's exploitation, I think we could all use some.
They do realize that in most video games you MURDER people, right?
Says a lot about people when they gotta be authoritarians even when they are playing Animal Crossing.
@Maddy1423 Murder is fine. It's not like they're about fishing or catching bugs, real crimes like that.
Maybe Nintendo could patch in a special easter egg for those who take this path:
If you talk to Tom Nook after doing all of this, he'll give you the "incredibly fun" almond picking minigame after finishing it he'll give you animal cruelty stock footage (provided by PETA) similar to PETA flash games as a reward.
Also if you have any cat or dog type villagers, they'll "move away" and disappear with no explanation.
@Toy_Link lol good one
@Rayquaza2510 hey now clowns already have it rough so don't try to insult them by comparing peta to them.
@Seananigans or they just made a character. You may want to check your own racism if you can read that much into this. PETA is obnoxious but you are just using a strawman with that comment.
Also not related to PETA but to your comment, a marginalized group pointing out oppression doesn’t make their oppression less valid because other groups have experienced similar. It also doesn’t make marginalizing those groups ok because it has happened before. Humanity is supposed to grow out of its cruelty, not shuffle it around like a shell game.
@Mana_Knight I don’t know if I believe it, but there is a conspiracy theory that the meat industry created PETA to make vegans look crazy and stupid.
@unoclay Hey, nice profile picture.
@Elvie no animals or blobs (or tiny little gumshoes) were harmed in the making of that gif
@RPGamer thats actually a misassessment of what they're doing. This is a PR campaign. I agree it makes them look silly to a lot of people. But they actually do a lot of lobbying, direct action, political campaigns, etc. Their underlying message is good, they're just not great at messaging it in these forms.
I am very disappointed NintendoLife, for giving them this spotlight.
Shame on you.
@SimplyCinnamon53 Lol. They do seem to have some of the worst PR skills possible. Maybe that is on purpose, as they think it will get people talking, which it does, but rarely for the right reasons!
@FantasiaWHT If anything, YOU get the "tiny cage" in the games!
Tom Nook exploiting you? Tanuki what? Don't exaggerate! This isn't 2011!
But hey, it could've been worse. I once imagined them criticizing New Leaf for being able to pitfall villagers.
But well, a fruit a day keeps the doctor away they say. Just don't get too far with it...
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/theamazingworldofgumball/images/8/83/Flw13.png
@LetsGoSwitch It doesn't, unless we are talking about breeding facilities or trawlers.
Yet they euthanize the animals at their shelter in Fairfax, Virginia and have been caught stealing people's pets to kill them as well. So much for animal welfare.
PETA hate Blathers because he keeps the animals entrusted to him alive, even the bugs he hates. That goes against their “euthanize within hours” policy.
@LetsGoSwitch Only overfishing. Some invasive species however need to fished because they are destroying the ecosystem.
@unoclay Their message is insane and if people adhered to it several species would go extinct. Did you know that a soy farm kills a lot more animals and has a worse impact on ecosystems than a pig farm? Though I bet PETA animal “shelters” kill more animals still. Especially dogs, because their insane founder has a grudge against them.
@mesome713 PETA runs a kill shelter that has been caught stealing people's pets. They absolutely are evil.
F PETA, they're complete garbage.
@unoclay Except animals are food. Carnivores and omnivores exist and humans have naturally been omnivorous throughout recorded history. I very much don't want to harm animals, but we can't ignore facts either.
I don't like these idiotic articles. The writer of this article needs to do a better job.
How hasn’t PETA been shut down?! I’m sure everyone across the globe is sick of their sh—
@NIN10DOXD Actually not, humans use to be on a fiber diet through most of time with very slim meat. Wasn't until last 100 years humans have started to adapt to meat. Which we got better at cooking animals tears.
@mesome713
Ah yes, my favorite dish at any restaurant "cooked animal tears".
I'm sure it's on the menu on every steakhouse in the country, right next to the "Grilled last sounds of a cow before it died"!
@Yorumi wait, you're telling me they could choose not to and do that regardless? Shocker, I didn't expect them to be so low 😉
Why do people still reply to this mesome troll? Seriously, they're only ever stirring the pot and also do a bad job of masking it.
I mean, I understand the urge to reply to silly comments and explain some common sense (as I fall in that trap way too often myself), but I think they're beyond reasonable doubt by now.
I am an animal-rights supporter, but I wish PETA wouldn't do this. It undermines PETA's very important purpose and portrays the organization as a bunch of humorless old ladies who've never been l**d. The time spent writing that ridiculous guide could have been spent Tweeting a message about puppy mills or some other mistreatment of animals. It was probably intended as a good-natured educational piece, but its effective message is, "Tune us out."
@Seananigans sorry to burst your bubble but if you've been here long enough you'll know Ryu is anything but.
Also calling someone a troll after a thoughtful response is the lowest form of rebuttal. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with their point, but you must have no counter argument at all if you have to resort to that.
@Toy_Link You sound so proud killing such weak and tearful creatures. I pray for your soul.
@mesome713
LOL
https://youtu.be/pfevBIsVG1o?t=14
Without a museum, PETA isn't gonna get very far.
@Mana_Knight I really don't think so. There are plenty of organizations that handle animal care and protection without being a joke and while doing so.
@SmaggTheSmug I'd need you to cite something (journalism, news, etc), because no offense intended, this sounds like conspiracy theory stuff. Sincerely interested to learn, but your comments dont seem like they jive with the standard facts.
sidenote, I find it interesting how angry meat eaters get when animal cruelty or animal rights issues get raised, i must say.
@NIN10DOXD I dont think i suggested ignoring facts. Sure, humans have been omnivorous. However, humans have also lived without antibiotics, have fought horrific wars, and ruined entire ecologies throughout history. Just because something is historically true doesnt mean we need be beholden to our past failings.
Meat industry is cruel, and animals deserve better. If you dont care to change, that is certainly your perogative. Me, i'm happy not killing stuff, and havent eaten animals since the 90s. FWIW, i hiked 100+ miles across australia last year, and similarly japan the year before....so its certainly not a matter of requirement for health to kill animals. Its just preference. To each their own, i guess.
@mesome713 That is simply false. Meat has most certainly been in many people's diets far longer than the past century. In fact it's the opposite. People had less grains and fibers in their diets because bread was not as easily and quickly manufactured as today and costed more in some societies.
@Seananigans because this is a public comment section and anyone can say anything?
Also, because there's no need to be rude towards everyone who replies to you. And since there are a few people in this community who are reliably reasonable in their interactions, it kinda sucks when they're called out for trolling when they clearly aren't.
The world is enough of a dumpster fire as it is right now without having to be so unreasonable, don't you think?
@unoclay No, I understand and that's wonderful. I understand the reasons for going vegan and it is becoming a more accessible lifestyle for many people. I just think PETA and some other groups can be hypocrites when they themselves have killed animals. I do think industrial farming is disgusting I used to volunteer for an animal rescue so I understand the moral reasoning behind veganism.
PETA has to understand they do far more harm than good. Their extreme policies actively push people away from their positions. And their ridiculous ad campaigns like this nonsense and their Pokemon parodies and other video game mockeries are so ineffective I sometimes wonder if they are mocking the very things they claim to support.
I'm completely okay with people who choose to live as vegetarians or vegans, I have a very good friend who lives in that lifestyle. But what never never does is to try and force that lifestyle on others. The only thing he ever does is to offer his dining options to others for them to try.
But then you have people who get a captive audience - like say in a university public speaking course - and you get preached to for 2 hours about how you are literally the worst people alive if you eat chicken and it frankly pisses me off.
Human are omnivorous. It's what we are. Throughout all of nature, animals eat other animals. I agree with PETA and other groups who are trying to stop the cruel abuse of animals kept in tiny cages and pumped full of steroids and such - but that's it. I do not agree that humans should stop eating meat, I just don't. I've heard all the arguments more times than I care to count. I don't agree.
We shouldn't be abusing animals we should be actively trying to raise them in good conditions, but we eat them. It is one of our primary food sources.
@unoclay https://certifiedhumane.org/does-peta-have-the-right-to-determine-whats-humane-considering-their-view-on-animals/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/killing-animals-petas-open-secret_b_59e78243e4b0e60c4aa36711
There's more.
Eating meat has nothing to do with it. At least with meat slaughter the animal's death ensures another creature's survival (as it happens in nature). What PETA does is just senseless killings. Mass murder of dogs in the name of some insane ideology that has nothing to do with animal rights.
Anyone with a lick of conscience should disassociate with PETA, regardless of their dietary preferences. They're the Westboro Baptists of veganism/animal rights, except even more disgusting.
My stance on veganism is "to each their own". But my stance on PETA is "why aren't they jailed yet".
@Seananigans That's the default shirt for male characters... it's not that deep
@Seananigans Okay, I guess there's multiple.. but it's what I got. It's not a custom outfit or anything, it's literally just a starting item.
Anyways, I'd like to point out that one of the villagers is wearing a seemingly custom candy corn themed shirt. Candy corn usually has either gelatin or honey in it. Just sayin.
PETA is the Red Skull of activists.
We live in a world full of groups that claim to want to make the world a better place but their members are a bunch of terrible people that only make people refuse to support their ideals, but no one of them want to join forces with PETA, just like in the Marvel Universe, even the worst villains have standarts and will not join forces with the Red Skull.
@SmaggTheSmug
It only took a matter of a few googles to expose that the website you cited, Certified Humane, is actually a disreputable organization that (apparently) is an arm of the animal-food industry, and not at all what they purport to be. I.E. they are in favor of the meat industry, and therefore, obviously, they're at odds with PETA. You're selectively choosing to self-affirm by selecting this article/source to conform with your predisposition to justify consuming animals. Additonally, they cite a single huffpo article re: a single worker doing clearly awful things---a classic rhetorical fallacy, intended to make a single individual/action "Stand" for a whole organization. Even a mildly skeptical read of your source reveals huge gaps in credibility, or at least, pause for reason to disregard it as questionable. I challenge you to find a single other source reporting on this. Its obviously a hit job by a competing interested party with a different ideology. PETA isnt killing dogs. This literally sounds like something you'd hear on Faux News.
>>>>>> At least with meat slaughter the animal's death ensures another creature's survival (as it happens in nature).
Naturalistic fallacy, my friend. Same reason people deny global warming, or anti-vax mindset, or argue that men should be allowed to beat women. "Well, in nature, this is how things work". Sure, and humans evolved past a lot of negative, gross behaviors that we no longer consider acceptable (polygamy, murder, etc). Eating meat is just easy to "justify", but we want it both ways: well, we're morally superior to all other animals, smarter, etc---except when it comes to dinnertime, then, well, we're just one of the animals again.
I try to say "to each their own", but its hard when one comes in the comments for articles like this and sees all the disappointingly unintellectual comments "i like ma meat cuz it tastes good fuk dem animals".
Hi, I am vegan.
I like Doom, I hate irl violence. I do fishing in AC, I would never irl. I play GTA and I am not even going to say what I do there. PETA sucks and most vegans don't care about them. There are crazy people everywhere and the crazy vegans normally support PETA. Makes it easy to spot them.
Sorry for the rant but PETA deserves it.
@unoclay I've simply chosen the first Google results. "Arm of the animal-food industry"? LOL, who's the conspiracy nut here? And it's not like the websites aren't citing government data...
I am not trying to convince you to eat animal product or not, as I said, It's none of my business. I am also not trying to justify it. Eating animals is not part of the argument.
What I am saying is that vegans should not defend PETA, because it harms their cause, much like Christians are given no favors by Westboro Baptists making a racket at soldier funerals. But now I am convinced you work for that criminal organization, so whatever.
How are they criminal? They steal pets https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whistleblower-peta-employee-allegations_b_6648696
Don't eat meat and don't support PETA.
@LetsGoSwitch well haven't you heard? Since fish can feel pain and are just as intelligent as us it would be speciest to lay a finger on one, let alone rip it from it's home for a bounty on its head. #EndSpeciesm
@Pak-Man but at least they won't have hurt a cluster of polygons and pixels. #EndSpeciesm
@mesome713 ...What
This is mental.
@Mana_Knight
There are many vegans that follow the diet/lifestyle as a personal choice and that dislike the vegan activism side.
Don't listen to those trolls. All that they want to do is take the soul out of Animal Crossing
I just realized that PETA implied that the animal villagers capturing/eating other animals (like fish and bugs) is speciesism…
You mean just like real ANIMALS?
PETA, if you're next goal is to make animals like lions, tigers, or bears (oh my) vegan. Don't try.
Who cares what PETA thinks, bunch of losers anyway!
@Toy_Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3jTpYOLQk
@edgedino YOU ARE RIGHT I AM SORRY!
(lol)
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's a game. Relax.
@LetsGoSwitch the fishing in the game? No. Individual fishing, unless your after swordfish or something won't harm the environment. The mass fishing done in real life where large ships drag nets behind them? Yes. It can destroy coral reefs, and unintentionally capture other sea creatures (i.e. dolphins and turtles). There's also overfishing, which for example, is common with tuna. Especially tuna advertised as fresh in North America, since it generally has to be flown in (leaving a huge carbon footprint).
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