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@KociolekDoSyta I don't believe that it comes down to Nintendo protecting their image. If anything, they're ruining it even more, if there's still something left to ruin.
Explain and gives specifics how they are doing there? No company IP should be freely just used without their explicit permission of the content holder. AKA Nintendo corporation.

@Rebusmind It's a Demo right now and I doubt we get all the features to use.

@electrolite77 The only thing we don't know for Nintendo games is a real survey that people give their truth response of what is Digital vs Physical to really see the split.

@KociolekDoSyta That time frame was before Nintendo became more success and name brand thrusted them into the headlines and now they have to do more to protect their image, IP, Copyright Business - they have to vet any such uses of their Brand, or Likeness to prevent abuses.

No Indie "Key-Card"....BG3, Stellar Blade....oh wait those aren't Indies....

@Rebusmind The demo was nice, but also felt uninspired. Sometimes I felt like I didn't know what I was doing cause the controls didn't get explained properly.
Did you try reading in-game instructions to see the controls?

Got my PreOrder for Octopath Traveler "0" NSW from Amazon NA.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FKNKJSM8?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

@Joekun But when some of your better customers who were buying hundreds of games are now buying 20 over the course of a generation, you might just be slitting your own throat.
That's what Nintendo saw coming....really fast...and did a about face if this was the case.

All comes down to IP and they want to prevent those not Non-Profit from making money off their IP. Beyond that I doubt they worry. It's just like anything if you profit off their IP then they want a cut of the margins. How hard is that for people to understand? NP has to also follow rules as well-it's not just a pass.

@DominionGamma Why did they close the survey so soon?
They most likely saw the writing on the wall and Go West faster "RoadRunner" when people got wind of this survey. Glad I got my punch in before it closed and it was night my time they shut down the survey.

@electrolite77 Telling someone who doesn’t collect games that they shouldn’t buy and play a game now because they might not be able to play it in 20-something years will be met with a blank stare.
And others and I, whom collects game will give blank stare back. This is the same old troupe used over and over and it is getting old. That is the Publisher issue not Nintendo. This is the price we all pay for games we buy here today gone tomorrow. This is why FULL cart games are what's needed. And lots of exSD storage and internal expanded storage.

Need to fire mine up and get downloading....

This game will be a big FAT "0" when it releases for me Bravely default already screwed us over already. There's no way that is bigger then CyberPunk2077 64gb cart....... If anything it will be Octopath 0 for Switch1...played on Switch2. They day they will regret ..... When they see PreOrders tank for Switch2 GKC they will learn really hard. Nintendo already sent 2nd survey out hiding "GKC" wording but those doing the survey knows this already and butte hurt the reviews heavy.....

Still wished they made Full Cart of all the games together...they surely can't be bigger then a 64gb Switch2 cart?????

The problem here is they don't give a Full physical version just Key-Card for the same game. But they it's just come to Publisher Greeds... They charge buyers full MSRP prices for Digital/Key-Card as though their is packing and middle man to sell the cart contents of which there is none for those product as opposed to Physical Full carts that could have extra stuff with them. That would be what your also paying Full cart prices for but Digital and Key-Card with no extra should be half of what Full Cart game cost.

Wished this came out sooner....now I will just be playing the Demo back and forth until I get more coins and gems to upgrade. I don't see a leveling system but maybe that will be when the game releases.

After buying all the series now they want to pooper us and only a DLX release Digital? They couldn't just say upgrade purchase will give you these new contents?? If this is only DLX Digital then forget it. At this point a Key-Card would be better if that is. I doubt the full content from original games would fill a 64gb cart. They are just straight up greedy.

Now that one can use Mouse and maybe Keyboard controls this makes the playing field level. So we will see if SW2 can crossplatforms if so this would mean COD is coming.

@Mariotag Also, to the two discussing it, how would a used market for digital games even work? You can't buy digital secondhand...
Lest those saying go eShop forgets you buy AAA games are MSRP as though it was full cart in game case. They should cost half as much since there is no physical cart or case for the game. They charge buyers MSRP as though it's a FULL cart and case but there is nothing and "Key-Card" should cost half since it's not even the full game. Plastic cheap compare to the chipset but then why we pay MSRP when that shouldn't be a factor for eShop games to Key-Card should still cost less as your not getting FULL cart game.

@BloodWolfe ya that Dq3 upgrade but not for 1&2 is ridiculous and squeenix has now lost me completely as a customer. ***** game key cards, I'll never support those and any company releasing on those.
So true, all they had to disclaimer is state if the PreOrders don't qualify up to PreOrders before payment is taken then you will get the Switch 1 version and refund the rest of the payments. If they did a FULL cart Switch2 but couldn't fulfill the order then they could do that. No they are just Dumn and Greedy for doing that and it will bite them in the butte as is happening now.

@Jalex_64 Dropping physical games altogether will only exacerbate the issue.
It's called pay for MSRP regardless oh how long or old the game is . They control how and when prices go down as oppose to Physical game market the market forces determine the price of Physical games resold value.

@johnedwin and many pc gamers pirate games
And get caught on Online games and get banned? Does that make one smarter?

@Vyacheslav333 The survey was active only for one day? Lol.
Lucky my youtubber put the link and I went straight for the jungler...

@marandahir Don't worry I gave my Disdain for Key-Card and told them to make more sizes... The Fact they can now or show they are making more sizes - tell you this was a Nintendo Bonehead move.

Like they could make at least 16gb for Bravely and or have 32gb option then the 64gb tells they thought they could pull a fast one... the more they make or have made from other company whom makes for them the cheaper it is. That is simple market forces the more you get in bulk the less they cost. And since it's Nintendo you think people don't want that Physical option? Sure future way way in the forgotten future Digital is coming that how you keep companies in business making those physical carts for Switch. Do they not see how loosing manufactures of the Switch carts could cost them dearly down the line as to unemployed companies and employees cost us.

The Fact we got a second survey would indicate Nintendo is concerned about "Key-Card" and only making 64gb Carts only....

Made sure to stated... No "Key-Card"..............

Reaction to Game-Key Cards from players has been largely negative, although the option to get a physical copy of the Switch 1 game and then get the digital-only Upgrade Pack for Switch 2 was a compromise some were prepared to make. Zero chance of that here, it seems.
That's a understatement. The Zero chance is Octopath Zero SW2 will become a big "0"...............

@thedicemaster no one can give a price as to what it cost? The Switch2 carts designs aren't the same unless someone can provide the details specs comparisons of insides of both to see.

@Riverlution Straight out laziness and thinkin people are dumb enough to not ask why should I buy it...

@ObsidianEleven Playing Switch1 games on Switch2 console does have it's advantage of performance and at times looks better take Witcher3 it more cleaner running on Switch2 and could change with updates to graphics and performance and mouse mode when aim with Box to make it more immersive game. Something I need to get back to.

Those advocating that Key-Card is only choice but costing same or more the standard as MSRP. Tell us or show where your getting those figure of the actual cost of a 64gb Switch2 and why can't they make at least a 32gb Switch2 cart? No one has been able to reply to this when they keep harping "Key-Card". You would think they could provide us those figures??? And when DQ remake can get a upgrade to Switch2 you really have to ask....

@Fragpiper You clearly want only to tunnel vision your opinion and the majority still wants 1st party game on Cart. So not sure what polls you created to match your view points but your not stating your opinion but that only your opinion are truth and couldn't be so far from the truth.

@Fragpiper nope it’s become a fixation of ‘physical phanatics’ and is injected to so many articles unnecessarily.
So wrong where do we start. Put 64gb and charge more for it. So tell me why can't SQE do that as it sounds like your part of their plant here to do PR for them.

Only time I would even consider SQE "0" is massive discount costing half of the Switch 1 version.

@zidane4028 For Switch 2, there are only two options for game cards: a key-card or a 64GB card. Guess which one's cheaper.

And guess what put 64gb and charge accordingly. Which would sell better in Switch2 Gen console.

@Fragpiper The commentary on Game Key Cards in every story needs to stop. It had NO relevancy to this article.
Then why even mention it? By bringing it up constantly your keeping it alive? No it has all relevancy to the article and publisher showing how greedy they are. If BOTW/TOTK can can a upgrade what's stopping SQE from doing this? PURE BS is what I called this out.

Posting on Bluesky, the publisher says that if you buy the Switch 1 version, you won't be able to upgrade to the Switch 2 version via an Upgrade Pack. This means Switch 2 owners wanting a physical copy of the game will be stuck between Switch 1 cart they can't upgrade and a Game-Key Card which — according to the official box art — will require a 5GB download.
What kinda 5hit crappola is this? Alot will wait til SQE goes out of business to even buy this crappola. Most won't go "Key-Card" without massive discounting of the game.

Another Bravely default II remaster "Debacle" all over again. If SQE thought posting on here were bad just look at BlueSky....

@Fiergala Got it set to download.....

Looks good like to get a Demo...that would something to try.

Switch2 OLED @600$.....

@PixelVoyager The "no-cancel preorders" approach might seem logical but could backfire with customer relations. Many people would probably just skip preordering altogether if they can't cancel.
It will not backfire...as that is the disclaimer already. Those that want the physical will pay for it. You make is sounds like buyers are brain dead and on life support when making these decisions. They can give them options to go with standard Switch1 carts if they can't fulfill the Switch2 cart Preorder limits. The publisher still have that option so not sure why you think they can't do that. All they have to disclaimer is say if the Switch2 cart preorder don't match this limit then they would change to Switch1 cart versions. Company all over the world have disclaimers in their writings for that reason.

@Runex2121 What I am annoyed with though is that they think a 2 year old game that frequently sells for $20-$30 is worth $70 now.
That's why used games cost less they Digital did one even think of that. Digital stays the same regardless until the Publisher - took enough "BloodMoney"and then if they feel so they chose the price to sell it at. Physicals games used are determined by market forces Digital games have no Market forces to lower it's price. Your Digital Game 70$ 10 years ago is still $70 today so tell me whom determines the price it goes for now?

@LuigiFanno1 As someone who owns 450+ digital games, why do you want 4 TBs of storage?
You answered your own question.

@Ryu_Niiyama We need two exSD slots so we can put 2-2tb exSD.....otherwise they should let users expand internal storage.

Better full physical cart game - we don't need Switch1 version and then a Switch2 "Key-Card". If this happens Switch1 version is the to buy.

The shear "Fact" DKB by itself not packed or combo console bundle can maintain that lead tells alot about the game winning gameplay.

Looks the "One Ring to Rule Them All" has come home to roost... I hope they fix this and get a Switch 2 upgrade soon before releasing this.

@PixelVoyager their games on 64 GB cards with such high costs. The initial cost and risk would be too high for them.
Then PreOrder charge them accordingly and say can't be cancel should you pick this option - that's how to do business or do they not even know how to do their business? Game not even released and yet they can't figure how much a 64gb exSD Switch2 cart would cost. No, this is pure greed NISA games are sellers regardless. They just to GReedy or PURE LAZY to make the effort. They aren't a small "Indie"....

@jaughndis Most beneficial option for NIS America, more like.

Shhhh,,they might ban you from NISA.....

Who cares about FPS as long as it can run and play good is what matters in the end. People are so fps they forgot the bigger picture of the game itself. This is what is lost here.

@Kiliomp And yet the Nintendo sales continue...now say that...The coolaid must be getting warm over there...

The only saving grace for me was Dock issue and got replacement Switch2 and hope I don't get Joy-Con2 issues.