Atelier Ryza Secret Trilogy Deluxe Pack Won't Offer Switch Upgrade Path Or Save Data Transfer

On one side, cool, Ryza 2 feels more complete with Empel and Lila going back to being playable and Clifford in 3.

On the other hand, scummy practices.

True physical Switch 2 release = buy day 1

Cheap digital upgrade path for existing Switch 1 owners = pick up in the future when ready to play

Otherwise, SKIP

Some of these companies are really pushing the limits with certain tactics.

Ouch. That's some real thigh-crimes and misdemeanor behavior towards the consumer!

Going by past patterns, the original versions are likely to be delisted. Hopefully, the newer versions won't run worse than the original ones.

I still haven't gotten to the first one after buying it a while back. It always seems to hang around fifth place on the list of rpgs I really should have played already. Hopefully by the time I finally finish it, this collection will be 75% off and I can consider whether or not it's worth the storage space.

I'm not too far into Ryza 1 (yeah, barely just got into it) but I liked it enough to get the other two AND the DLC

If the company don't have the decency and brain functionality to do a save transfer and upgrade path, players that already own the trilogy should get this for free, ESPECIALLY since they have to start again.
The og games being so overpriced and microtransaction heavy was already a dirty scam, THIS is just downright scum behaviour and I feel so sorry for the series' hardcore fans.
Vote with your wallets, I hope every fan bullies the company into releasing an upgrade path and allowing save transferring.

is it a game key card?

That's okay. I never got the original Atelier Ryza games to begin with, so I'll be going into these games completely fresh. All I'm waiting for is for preorders to open.

@jojobar Digital only on Switch 2. Physical on PS4, PS5, and Switch 1 in Japan, but among those, only PS4 and PS5 support English.

Seriously do yourself a favor and migrate to PS5 for third party games if you care about physical games, take control and stop waiting for breadcrumbs from Nintendo. That's what I did, Switch 2 has been the most disappointing Nintendo console ever.

Boo to no upgrade path! Also it seems weird to offer bonuses for having save data but no way to actually use said save data...

"Okay guys, here's what I'm thinking for the Switch 2 DX versions..."

What a bizarre pitch meeting that must have been.

The DX versions have always been that way - no upgrade path so no surprise there. Do we know if it's full cart on Switch 2?

I bought all 3 ultimate editions at like 60% off I'm waiting on a discount for this

These game did look pretty good and I haven't had the money and time to play and purchase them, if I ever decided to play these games now, I would just get this DX version, but holy cow, I can see how this would be disappointing for anyone who has already played them.

Good thing I don't need to double dip then. The third game is the only one in the trilogy I haven't played yet so I will get that separately.

How in the hell is there at least no save data transfer?
That should be the absolute bare minimum!

I guess the new content makes save files incompatible?

Glad I foresaw this and shelved Ryza 1 for a bit.

I don't need the extra bells and whistles to enjoy what I already have. I'll pass.

If I love the version that I have enough, I may wait for the dx trilogy to go on sale on Steam, and then get it there. I'm not giving Nintendo anymore of my money for this.

So is the Switch one version of DX trilogy at least physical.

Shame there isn't a physical version of the complete trilogy, I'd buy that. Will probably still buy the digital one, but likely only when it goes on sale. Also I imagine it'll take a ton of HDD space, which isn't ideal.

Why is everyone complaining about Nintendo for the no upgrade path or save data transfer? The same thing is happening on PS4/PS5 version of this game as well.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/08/no-discount-for-atelier-ryza-owners-hoping-to-upgrade-to-new-dx-versions-on-ps5-ps4

Is this a particularly good set of Atelier games?
And can I ever expect discounts?

The Gunvolt trilogy is doing the same thing. It's not really unfair since the new editions have new content built into the experience to say, it's not compatible. It sucks if you already had them, more so if you already played them, but that's how it goes.

@Rect_Pola not an excuse for not doing a "pay $10, get the new version even if the saves are incompatible" tho.

This is of no consequence to me because I haven't bought these games, but that is pretty annoying for those who would want to upgrade.

Makes sense these don't offer upgrades or save file transfers. However no physical release in the west for Switch 1 or 2 or at least English on the card as an import option is so scummy. We are big reason this trilogy became the breakout hit the series had been waiting for.

@Rect_Pola
at least Gunvolt trilogy is 50% off if you already have the 1+2 pack (possibly if you have 3 as well?). I'm going to guess that this trilogy pack will be $90 like the other DX packs, with each game $40 on its own.

Just Tecmo Koei being scummy as usual. Nothing new here. The Atelier games always end up with DX versions later on.

@ThatOneLevel
I don't have a PS5, and haven't touched my PS4 in over 3 years.

So, this is just Nintendo news for me

Which is worse, no physical version or no way to upgrade from the original versions?
(The answer, of course, is both.)

It seems "upgrade path" is the new hot term of the week.

To my knowledge, none of the previous Atelier releases offered any kind of "upgrade path" or save data transfer. People suddenly expect this to be the default because a few cross-generation Switch 1/2 titles had it. I don't recall people complaining this much when previous Deluxe Trilogies neglected to offer such concessions for existing customers.

I'm guessing that the developers have been trimming unnecessary data from the original builds as well, hence why they tend to shrink a fair bit in terms of their file sizes, and perhaps these internal changes render it a little too difficult to enable save data transfers without complications.

But perhaps I'm being a little too charitable by giving the developers the benefit of the doubt.

@thehoppypoppy
YOu realise this isn't down to Nintendo don't you?

@SillyG
You are definitely being too charitable, considering there isn't physicals with english on S/SW, the reality of them never doing it previous doesn't make it ok.
They need the support to continue what they are doing and are simply losing customers(Fans too) for not doing anything of the sort.
With it's lack of physical too, there will be a lot that will no longer buy.

In a weird way despite owning all the Ateliers bar the remake of the first and Yumia on Switch physically, I'm not happy about the lack of physical but I am relieved, makes me feel like I don't need to buy and can settle with what I have.

But yeah, the issue is and why there is a bigger ask for an upgrade path is because its so soon after the originals released. It's the same generation and they are already doing a trilogy.

While I appreciate similar has been done with the Mysterious trilogy, that itself clearly had problems on Switch so was a more viable upgrade, this here, I'm not so sure.

After buying all the series now they want to pooper us and only a DLX release Digital? They couldn't just say upgrade purchase will give you these new contents?? If this is only DLX Digital then forget it. At this point a Key-Card would be better if that is. I doubt the full content from original games would fill a 64gb cart. They are just straight up greedy.

@topsekret I'm guessing as is usual these days there might be English subtitles in the JP version?

@thehoppypoppy same. I've only started this trilogy on the switch and I'm only 4 hours in on the first and even I won't buy the entire trilogy again and start a new save file. I swear these companies think we're all made of money and have all the time in the world

@Kenshir0 Unfortunately, according to the official Japanese website, only the PS4 and PS5 Japanese versions will support English. (Scroll to the bottom of the page and use the translation function of your browser.) It seems Koei Tecmo doesn't want any business from English-speaking physical Nintendo fans.

I love the original trilogy, but this seems like a waste of time to replay so soon after the last one came out TBH. I'm excited for the next new Atelier game though!