@Medic_alert I agree with you that it‘s difficult to blame 3rd parties, when prices for the new carts are taking such a bite out of their revenue. I was just pointing out that whatever decision Nintendo could have made, it would always have resulted in an outcry anyways. I just don‘t think there must always be someone to blame. Put it on circumstance and the shape that the industry has grown into … through the companies, the game developers and their works, the consumers and their demands. ✌️
@Medic_alert Yes, it‘s most definitely the price that is keeping many from releasing full games on carts. But there was also no right decision that Nintendo could have made: Old carts = slow speeds and long load times, limited capacity; different medium = compromised backwards compatibilty and portability; digital only with bigger SSD = no more physical + increased hardware price. No win scenario and a guaranteed outcry either way …
Maybe some Mario Kart 8 and/or Kirbys Dream Buffet with my girlfriend in the evening. Apart from that likely only short bursts of Star of Providence, Devastator, Tetris99 … I won‘t be starting anything substantial before my Switch 2 arrives. Just building up the anticipation.
Happy gaming!
While it‘s of course possible that the Mario games only get added Gameshare functionality, I would say it‘s rather likely the get a visual/performance boost too. After all Mario is their evergreen flagship franchise and they will want to have him look his best on the new S2.
@8bit-Man The two Zeldas definitely improve framerate and resolution. Gameplay footage of Echoes, though only a snippet, was visible in one of Nintendo‘s videos about Gamechat. But if you consider their unstable framerate game breaking then yes, it‘s a patch to make them playable. 😉
For all escapism purists: culture and therefore poltics is explicitly and implicitly woven into ALL media you consume, whether you can see it or not. Good luck escaping it!
Whatever you might think about their output, there is nothing at all good about a journalistic outfit being bought and gutted by a content mill. Actually stumbled upon the news in the comment section under one of their articles. RIP Polygon.
@Ulysses Yes, I can only imagine. Came back to gaming about two and a half years ago. So late in the Switchs‘ lifecycle and with all the sales going on it was like drinking from a firehose, certainly not what I was used to back in the day (Gamecube days). With Switch2 only at the start of it‘s lifecycle I‘m planning to go ahead a little more mindful and mostly getting games I‘m quite certain I will finish – a pattern of what those will be has clearly emerged.
Will be good for Switch2's launch year sales, right!? Personally I never got the hype around GTA and don't actually know how big the overlap with Nintendo's core audience is, but more focus on our new favorite gaming system should be a plus.
@betterman In Germany, you are well paid and as you are state employed it is almost impossible to get fired. I think it’s similar in some Scandinavian countries … but yes, I am aware that it is globally far from the norm.
Edit: Just looked it up, in Germany it‘s on average like $70K annually (primary school starting salary).
@BirdoDidNothingWrong Well, there are actually countries (in Europe at least) where teaching is (and is considered) well paid, secure, with lots of vacation time and there are actually too few of them so they are well sought after … just sayin‘.
@NintonicGamer They are, I mostly go for Indies and Nintendo 1st party games. A bit over-generalized, but most AAAs feel like the same game only with a different shiny coat of paint … @Cathalm Count me in!
@Max_the_German Haha, yes. 160,- DM for Mortal Kombat 4 (U.S. Import) … I recently remembered it as Euros, but yes it was Deutschmark. But adjusted to today’s prices it comes close!
Sorry to all the developers releasing great games on S1 right now! My money is all tied up for S2 release … not even checking for sales on Dekudeals. But I‘m so excited!!
Pre-ordered Pro Contr 2, Micro-SD Ex 256GB and the carrying case + screen protector … Maybe a GameCube Controller further down the line, but new games and TOTK upgraded come first.
@OldGamer999 The Gamecube app is for playing original Gamecube games, not for playing ported versions. It was 4:3 aspect ratio on the Cube, so nothing lazy about it. This is also the only version of the game I played and that I want to revisit in it‘s original form. Will you expect original Gameboy games in widescreen next?
@DanElectrode Yeah, it should better be priced at least mid-tier … But it also seems to be a consequence of their frequent and deep sales tbh. It‘s currently at 14,99€ …
@WiiSwitch2 You can also play the original version without the upgrade! Would actually be quite interested in seeing a comparison of both versions running on the Switch2. But all Nintendo Switch 1st party games (except special cases like Labo) are compatible.
@DanElectrode It (almost certainly) won't be an upgrade pack. They said as much in their "creator's voice" video on the Nintendo webpage. That's because the game is not based off of the Switch1 version, but is instead a port of the "full fat" version that came out on other systems. Really glad I didn't bite at a recent sale …
@rvcolem1 It's not just you. For a few rounds here and there with friends, while fun, full price at 60 bucks seems quite steep. Single player campaigns in fighters don't keep me around for long. This game looks really nice and shiny though (perhaps the Switch2 novelty factor?) so maybe I'll start with the digital base version at 40 … but only maybe.
@Qwertyninty Village actually surprised me and imo felt like a much needed refresher for the series (setting-wise + 1st person gameplay). RE4 remake on the other hand left me quite cold. Back in the day RE4 on the Gamecube felt revolutionary but the formula got a bit stale.
I would expect all RE games coming to Switch2. Over the last couple of years they ported Village and all the Remakes to Mac with RE3 just being released a couple of weeks ago … and I don't actually know how big of a market that is compared to Switch, probably just a fraction.
Waited for a substantial Switch1 sale … now I‘m gonna be waiting for a substantial Switch2 sale. Simply not the biggest Sonic fan. Game looks fun though!
@the_beaver It‘s on the web version of Switch eShop (at least in EU). Simply buy as usual and check off that you know it‘s for a system you do not currently own. Should then be added automatically once you connect Switch2 to your account. Support Shin’en!
@NintendoWife It appears to be a whole campaign, with the previously existing worlds transformed by a meteor … on the NintendoToday app they showcased impressions of the start of two levels. If this will translate to all of the levels though I do not know. But even the postgame campaign in that game was pretty expansive imo.
Edit: judging by the number of falling meteors in the intro though, there should be quite a lot of worlds in the upgrade campaign. Well, that's if the intro is anything to go by.
As expected. Really looking forward to playing the upgraded TOTK, BOTW and Kirby and the Forgotten Land. Also to all the free upgrades coming – Zelda Echoes, Link's Awakeing, Mario Odyssey.
@the_beaver For a small studio like them it's really essential to get the game out at launch. Not much competition – especially in the 20–30 $ price range they are probably targeting. The fewer options there are, the more people will jump on it to fill their starting line up. 120 fps will be really an afterthought in that situation …
Edit: with the now announced price of only 14,99 € this game will sell like crazy!
@JohnnyMind Agree. Came back to gaming about two years ago – fell off after Gamecube – and thanks to tracking sales on dekudeals my digital Switch library (+backlog) has ballooned to a ridiculous size. Gaming used to be much more expensive …
@YAT Unannounced increase? This is a new console generation. The prices were announced directly after the presentation and release date announcement. They did not lure you into buying it with cheap prices upfront just to increase the price 2 month after they started selling or something. Buy or buy not, your choice.
@Dr_Lugae Agree 100%. And what people seem to forget, this is a new console generation not a subscription service. You are free to join and you can also just walk away. No contract binding you, no one is screwing you over. And @Saints: you write you‘ve been playing MK8 for over a decade. What price tag would you put on playing something for a decade? How much do you spend for 2hrs at the movies?
@Saints Well that‘s the point of being a consumer, you should vote with your money and support who you deem supportable. Nobody is forcing you. Go get Game-Pass or something like that. Wherever possible I try to support creators and companys I like directly and individually rather than going for streaming and mass blowouts. But you do you!
Edit: and well, that‘s another thing I‘m on both sides, I‘m a consumer and a creator. I expect to pay for value I receive and I expect to be payed for value I create.
@Saints On the whole gaming (on the consumer side) has never been cheaper with constant sales going on/expected, while the perception of value is on the decline. At the same time much of the industry is in kind of a crisis with massive layoffs. Do you really think Nintendo not devaluing their IP and pricing according to market is bad? Would you prefer Nintendo going full on Ubisoft firing whole teams when games do not perform because people are trained by them to only buy on sale? There is a reason they are well off atm while others are struggling to stay relevant.
@KoopaTheGamer Yeah and you can‘t even get a Starbucks coffee for the monthly cost…
Great finally getting games of this (ahem) calibur on NSO. Loved SC2 back in the day!
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Re: Accessory Manufacturer Genki Responds To Nintendo's Switch 2 Lawsuit
"to respond thoughtfully" well that's new …
Re: The Company That "Leaked" Switch 2 Is Being Sued By Nintendo
Ruining the surprise for people is actually the biggest crime here … but please get them on trademark violation and put them out of business.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (3rd May)
@GregamanX Played a little Thumper two weeks ago. What a blast!
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Might Already Be Teasing More Switch 2 Games
@Medic_alert I agree with you that it‘s difficult to blame 3rd parties, when prices for the new carts are taking such a bite out of their revenue. I was just pointing out that whatever decision Nintendo could have made, it would always have resulted in an outcry anyways. I just don‘t think there must always be someone to blame. Put it on circumstance and the shape that the industry has grown into … through the companies, the game developers and their works, the consumers and their demands. ✌️
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Might Already Be Teasing More Switch 2 Games
@Medic_alert Yes, it‘s most definitely the price that is keeping many from releasing full games on carts. But there was also no right decision that Nintendo could have made: Old carts = slow speeds and long load times, limited capacity; different medium = compromised backwards compatibilty and portability; digital only with bigger SSD = no more physical + increased hardware price. No win scenario and a guaranteed outcry either way …
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (3rd May)
Maybe some Mario Kart 8 and/or Kirbys Dream Buffet with my girlfriend in the evening. Apart from that likely only short bursts of Star of Providence, Devastator, Tetris99 … I won‘t be starting anything substantial before my Switch 2 arrives. Just building up the anticipation.
Happy gaming!
Re: ICYMI: 12 Switch Games Will Receive Free Switch 2 Upgrades
While it‘s of course possible that the Mario games only get added Gameshare functionality, I would say it‘s rather likely the get a visual/performance boost too. After all Mario is their evergreen flagship franchise and they will want to have him look his best on the new S2.
Re: ICYMI: 12 Switch Games Will Receive Free Switch 2 Upgrades
@8bit-Man The two Zeldas definitely improve framerate and resolution. Gameplay footage of Echoes, though only a snippet, was visible in one of Nintendo‘s videos about Gamechat. But if you consider their unstable framerate game breaking then yes, it‘s a patch to make them playable. 😉
Re: Editorial: Gamers, Support The People And Sites You Love, Before It's Too Late
@ArmenianJedi13 Polygon actually did / does not score their game reviews …
Re: Editorial: Gamers, Support The People And Sites You Love, Before It's Too Late
For all escapism purists: culture and therefore poltics is explicitly and implicitly woven into ALL media you consume, whether you can see it or not. Good luck escaping it!
Re: Editorial: Gamers, Support The People And Sites You Love, Before It's Too Late
Polygon as a site is/was more about media culture with a strong focus on gaming than strictly a games site. Culture is always also political.
Re: Editorial: Gamers, Support The People And Sites You Love, Before It's Too Late
Whatever you might think about their output, there is nothing at all good about a journalistic outfit being bought and gutted by a content mill. Actually stumbled upon the news in the comment section under one of their articles. RIP Polygon.
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
@Ulysses Yes, I can only imagine. Came back to gaming about two and a half years ago. So late in the Switchs‘ lifecycle and with all the sales going on it was like drinking from a firehose, certainly not what I was used to back in the day (Gamecube days). With Switch2 only at the start of it‘s lifecycle I‘m planning to go ahead a little more mindful and mostly getting games I‘m quite certain I will finish – a pattern of what those will be has clearly emerged.
Re: Grand Theft Auto 6 Has Been Delayed And Will Now Launch In May 2026
Will be good for Switch2's launch year sales, right!? Personally I never got the hype around GTA and don't actually know how big the overlap with Nintendo's core audience is, but more focus on our new favorite gaming system should be a plus.
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
@betterman In Germany, you are well paid and as you are state employed it is almost impossible to get fired. I think it’s similar in some Scandinavian countries … but yes, I am aware that it is globally far from the norm.
Edit: Just looked it up, in Germany it‘s on average like $70K annually (primary school starting salary).
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
@BirdoDidNothingWrong Well, there are actually countries (in Europe at least) where teaching is (and is considered) well paid, secure, with lots of vacation time and there are actually too few of them so they are well sought after … just sayin‘.
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
@NintonicGamer They are, I mostly go for Indies and Nintendo 1st party games. A bit over-generalized, but most AAAs feel like the same game only with a different shiny coat of paint …
@Cathalm Count me in!
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
@Max_the_German Haha, yes. 160,- DM for Mortal Kombat 4 (U.S. Import) … I recently remembered it as Euros, but yes it was Deutschmark. But adjusted to today’s prices it comes close!
Re: Hollow Knight: Silksong Will Be Playable At An Australian Museum In September
It will be displayed in the section of the show called ”Urban Myths“ …
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
@Cathalm You foretold and @Spider-Kev delivered! Are you a psychic? 😉
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
My personal solution for increased prices will be to bring buying games and actually playing them more into alignment. So long, backlog!
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Accessories, And Games Worldwide
Why is that Xbox controller 199 bucks? 😂 Golden knobs on a silken body?
Re: Upcoming Nintendo Switch 2 Games And Accessories For May And June 2025
Sorry to all the developers releasing great games on S1 right now! My money is all tied up for S2 release … not even checking for sales on Dekudeals. But I‘m so excited!!
Re: Poll: Which Switch 2 Accessories Are You Picking Up At Launch?
Pre-ordered Pro Contr 2, Micro-SD Ex 256GB and the carrying case + screen protector … Maybe a GameCube Controller further down the line, but new games and TOTK upgraded come first.
Re: Video: Nintendo Shares More Footage Of Zelda: Wind Waker For Switch Online
@Tott I also only ever played the original and cannot remember anything too painful … maybe it‘s just been too long ago.
Re: Video: Nintendo Shares More Footage Of Zelda: Wind Waker For Switch Online
@OldGamer999 The Gamecube app is for playing original Gamecube games, not for playing ported versions. It was 4:3 aspect ratio on the Cube, so nothing lazy about it. This is also the only version of the game I played and that I want to revisit in it‘s original form. Will you expect original Gameboy games in widescreen next?
Re: Community: 38 Switch Games We Missed, As Recommended By You
BZZZT was excellent, Sanabi is still waiting in the Backlog.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
@DanElectrode Yeah, it should better be priced at least mid-tier … But it also seems to be a consequence of their frequent and deep sales tbh. It‘s currently at 14,99€ …
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
@WiiSwitch2 You can also play the original version without the upgrade! Would actually be quite interested in seeing a comparison of both versions running on the Switch2. But all Nintendo Switch 1st party games (except special cases like Labo) are compatible.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
@DanElectrode It (almost certainly) won't be an upgrade pack. They said as much in their "creator's voice" video on the Nintendo webpage. That's because the game is not based off of the Switch1 version, but is instead a port of the "full fat" version that came out on other systems. Really glad I didn't bite at a recent sale …
Re: Street Fighter 6 Releasing Final 'Year 2' Fighter Alongside Switch 2 Game Launch
@rvcolem1 It's not just you. For a few rounds here and there with friends, while fun, full price at 60 bucks seems quite steep. Single player campaigns in fighters don't keep me around for long. This game looks really nice and shiny though (perhaps the Switch2 novelty factor?) so maybe I'll start with the digital base version at 40 … but only maybe.
Re: Resident Evil's Continued Success Makes Us Eager For Switch 2 Ports
@Qwertyninty Village actually surprised me and imo felt like a much needed refresher for the series (setting-wise + 1st person gameplay). RE4 remake on the other hand left me quite cold. Back in the day RE4 on the Gamecube felt revolutionary but the formula got a bit stale.
Re: Resident Evil's Continued Success Makes Us Eager For Switch 2 Ports
I would expect all RE games coming to Switch2. Over the last couple of years they ported Village and all the Remakes to Mac with RE3 just being released a couple of weeks ago … and I don't actually know how big of a market that is compared to Switch, probably just a fraction.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations Is Confirmed As A Launch Title For Switch 2
Waited for a substantial Switch1 sale … now I‘m gonna be waiting for a substantial Switch2 sale. Simply not the biggest Sonic fan. Game looks fun though!
Re: Fast Fusion Price On Switch 2 Puts Welcome Tour To Shame
@the_beaver It‘s on the web version of Switch eShop (at least in EU). Simply buy as usual and check off that you know it‘s for a system you do not currently own. Should then be added automatically once you connect Switch2 to your account. Support Shin’en!
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
@NintendoWife It appears to be a whole campaign, with the previously existing worlds transformed by a meteor … on the NintendoToday app they showcased impressions of the start of two levels. If this will translate to all of the levels though I do not know. But even the postgame campaign in that game was pretty expansive imo.
Edit: judging by the number of falling meteors in the intro though, there should be quite a lot of worlds in the upgrade campaign. Well, that's if the intro is anything to go by.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
@SirLink In a graph on their site it shows that all Nintendo 1st party titles (except Labo) are compatible with Switch2. This should include Kirby!
Re: Fast Fusion Price On Switch 2 Puts Welcome Tour To Shame
Wow, fantastic price! Just pre-ordered it …
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For Two More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
Didn't know the pre-orders were already open … just pre-ordered TOTK and Kirby upgrades!
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For Two More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
As expected. Really looking forward to playing the upgraded TOTK, BOTW and Kirby and the Forgotten Land. Also to all the free upgrades coming – Zelda Echoes, Link's Awakeing, Mario Odyssey.
Re: Fast Fusion's Switch 2 Performance And Resolution Detailed
@the_beaver For a small studio like them it's really essential to get the game out at launch. Not much competition – especially in the 20–30 $ price range they are probably targeting. The fewer options there are, the more people will jump on it to fill their starting line up. 120 fps will be really an afterthought in that situation …
Edit: with the now announced price of only 14,99 € this game will sell like crazy!
Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
@JohnnyMind Agree. Came back to gaming about two years ago – fell off after Gamecube – and thanks to tracking sales on dekudeals my digital Switch library (+backlog) has ballooned to a ridiculous size. Gaming used to be much more expensive …
Re: Nintendo Removes Worrying Cloud Save Note From Select Switch 2 Game Pages
Over 150 comments for … what actually!?
Re: Mailbox: Switch 2 Price Drops, Remake Replacements, Pokémon Acquisitions - Nintendo Life Letters
@YAT Unannounced increase? This is a new console generation. The prices were announced directly after the presentation and release date announcement. They did not lure you into buying it with cheap prices upfront just to increase the price 2 month after they started selling or something. Buy or buy not, your choice.
Re: Mailbox: Switch 2 Price Drops, Remake Replacements, Pokémon Acquisitions - Nintendo Life Letters
@Dr_Lugae Agree 100%. And what people seem to forget, this is a new console generation not a subscription service. You are free to join and you can also just walk away. No contract binding you, no one is screwing you over. And @Saints: you write you‘ve been playing MK8 for over a decade. What price tag would you put on playing something for a decade? How much do you spend for 2hrs at the movies?
Re: Mailbox: Switch 2 Price Drops, Remake Replacements, Pokémon Acquisitions - Nintendo Life Letters
@Saints Well that‘s the point of being a consumer, you should vote with your money and support who you deem supportable. Nobody is forcing you. Go get Game-Pass or something like that. Wherever possible I try to support creators and companys I like directly and individually rather than going for streaming and mass blowouts. But you do you!
Edit: and well, that‘s another thing I‘m on both sides, I‘m a consumer and a creator. I expect to pay for value I receive and I expect to be payed for value I create.
Re: Mailbox: Switch 2 Price Drops, Remake Replacements, Pokémon Acquisitions - Nintendo Life Letters
@Saints On the whole gaming (on the consumer side) has never been cheaper with constant sales going on/expected, while the perception of value is on the decline. At the same time much of the industry is in kind of a crisis with massive layoffs. Do you really think Nintendo not devaluing their IP and pricing according to market is bad? Would you prefer Nintendo going full on Ubisoft firing whole teams when games do not perform because people are trained by them to only buy on sale? There is a reason they are well off atm while others are struggling to stay relevant.
Re: Video: Nintendo Today Gives Us Another Look At SoulCalibur II For Switch 2 Online
@KoopaTheGamer Yeah and you can‘t even get a Starbucks coffee for the monthly cost…
Great finally getting games of this (ahem) calibur on NSO. Loved SC2 back in the day!
Re: Nintendo Kicks Off Mario Kart World Marketing In Japan With A Trio Of New Trailers
@TrueBlueYoshi Absolutely, pun intended!
Re: Feature: The Switch 2 Sticks Might Not Be Hall Effect, But They Feel Fantastic
@commentlife Nintendo repaired them free of charge, those costs would also have to factor into your calculation.