I hate to say it, but, they're all bad. I'm sorry, but it's true. I've played at least half of these and beaten around 1/3 of them. Just last year, I was finally able to take off my nostalgia goggles, and realize that none of the Sonic are games are actually good or fun. Level design is meh at it's peak, the stories are nonsense in the worst possible way, the characters are all awful, the game mechanics are shallow (and often broken), and most importantly, 90% of the gameplay just doesn't feel good. Simply put, Sonic games are bad - not just the new ones - all of them. Instead of wading through a cesspool of mediocrity based on nostalgia, I recommend playing games that are actually enjoyable.
I've been waiting for a sale on Strife: Veteran Edition and it finally happened. I wanted it on Switch for that wonderful gyro aiming Switch is known for, and it was worth the wait. I'm only about 1/4 of the way through it, but this game was clearly ahead of its time (originally released in 1996), and extremely interesting as a fan of FPS/RPGs and immersive sims. Can't wait to play more!
Such a kewl game π I recommend playing with a (non-optical) mouse and keyboard for a truly authentic experience. And don't forget to crash the game anytime someone makes or receives a phone call since your high-speed 56k dialup modem uses the telephone line.
@Sylvaret Let's say, hypothetically, Coca-Cola stopped making Classic Coke. Your argument is like saying, "Stop whining about Coke when you could be drinking Pepsi, RC Cola, and Shasta Cola!" The brand matters, even when the flavor is "the same."
Looks good! Still haven't played Bug Fables yet though. I decided to stop buying so many games until I finish what I already have - outside of absolute must-plays from favorite franchises (such as RE Village and Pokemon Snap).
I thought the female version of "beefcake" was "cheesecake" though... lol I just heard that for the first time a few days ago on a podcast and thought it was hilariously stupid
Link's Awakening DX
Pokemon Crystal
Zelda Oracle of Ages/Seasons
Game & Watch Gallery 2/3
Caution - Hot takes below:
Pokemon Yellow is better than Red/Blue, but gen one is overrated anyway.
How come Pokemon Pinball is always missing the battery cover?
I played a bit of that leaked version of Pokemon Picross - seemed like a winner, but I have a LOT of other picross games to get through first.
DKL3 (J) is pretty okay, but DKL2 is still better.
SMB Deluxe has great extras, but that shrunken screen size is deal-breakingly small and off-putting.
Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble is difficult to play without a screen mod, so I installed an IPS screen on my GBC. ...Probably wasn't worth it.
There's a bootleg Fire Emblem game that's a bit bananas, but halfway decent for what it is. However, it's only partially fan translated, which kills a fair amount of the appeal for me. Also it's prettttty clunky on top of already being difficult.
Shantae is gorgeous, but not especially fun relative to it's vastly superior sequels.
I never really got into Wario Land 3 since I thought WL2 was only okay. I prefer the gameplay of the original and VB, even compared to WL4 and Shake It.
I keep meaning to play RE Gaiden and Daikatana, but haven't yet.
5 seems a bit harsh, although I'd still only give it a 6. If you like both horror and walking sims, I would recommend giving it a go when it goes on sale, but I wouldn't pay more than $10 for it. I might be in the minority with this opinion, but I prefer LoF2 over Amnesia 2 and Soma. This game does some neat stuff sometimes - it definitely has some cool moments. In the end, if you didn't like the first one, this will definitely not win you over, as it is worse overall in my opinion.
@Classic603 That's totally fair. While I know I'm not alone in loving the original, without a doubt some of that love comes from the time and place.
If you decide to replay it, just remind yourself that it came out almost 30 years ago, and in 1993, it felt like a miracle to play something so big, and so epic on the playground at recess, or in the car on the ride home from school.
@Classic603 I loved the art style, and having extra buttons was a nice QoL improvement, but overall I felt like the remake didn't quite capture the charm and magic of the original.
Maybe it's nostalgia goggles to be honest. I played it as a kid way back when it first came out, and previous to that I had never played anything beyond the scope of SMB and Tetris, so it not only opened me up a new genre, but it sort of redefined what games could even be in my young mind.
I also feel like there is/was something special about how the original felt like pushed beyond the limitations of the hardware which made it feel bigger than possible. Of course with vastly superior hardware, any remake just isn't going to be able to match that feeling, and it lost a part of what made the original so special.
Additionally, I was beyond hyped for the remake when it was announced - I couldn't believe it was actually happening - and so maybe my expectations were ultimately just too high.
I still enjoyed the remake, but it's probably not even in my top 75 whereas the original is possibly my favorite - can't decide beyond the 9 or 10 games I listed.
I'm curious if you have feelings on the topic as well, or if you were just asking. Please share if you do π
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
EarthBound
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
God of War (2018)
Paper Mario: TTYD
Pokemon Omega Ruby
Portal 2
Super Mario World
Tomb Raider (2013)
As much as I tried to make a top 5, I can't take even one of those off the list.
@GamingDude800 LOL π Name calling, now? You're so easily offended that you feel the need to lash out at strangers on the internet? We're on website about video games, dude. People are allowed to have different opinions than you.
"Back in my day, we had physical manuals and all the content was on the disc. Not a micro transaction in sight! We had to walk to FuncoLand uphill both ways, and trade in our SNES cartridges for pennies just to get an N64. And when we got home from renting Mario Kart at BlockBuster, we gathered around the 24" CRT in the living room with 8' extention cables and we liked it! Scanlines and all! In my day, games were hard as nails, and we'd leave the NES on all night if we had to. We had that game for the weekend and we played it whether we liked it or not! The only 'day one patch' I ever heard of was for my eye from sitting too close to the TV playing GoldenEye splitscreen deathmatch after school. Now get off my lawn, ya whippersnapper!"
So many of these comments just sound like rambling grandpa cliches π
So many people living in the past. Gaming today is better than it ever has been. All those old games still exist and are more accessible than ever - if you disagree with that, I'm sorry but you're doing it wrong.
Genres labels are great for efficiently communicating generalities, but typically breakdown quickly when we look closer and really start analyzing. The biggest problem with genres is that people don't even agree on definitions, and effective communication is over before it begins.
Edit: I feel like I want to respond to almost every comment so far, and on second thought, I'm just going to let it go and stop myself here
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Please stop watering down your content, NL. This article is especially of particularly low quality - the mockup isn't even well done. This website is better than this.
@Socar Maybe just let it go and focus on your own reviews, then. If you think you can do so much better, then prove it. There are plenty of websites that allow user reviews. If you're actually good at it, you'll get noticed. Good luck.
@Socar She said the puzzles are frustrating and obtuse - that alone can knock off 2 points depending on the reviewer. Everyone else here seems to think that's fair. She said too that these are still great games. The score given is significantly above the metacritic average. What more do you need to understand?
@bluebonics I mean, technically there isn't a wavelength of light that corresponds to the color magenta, so depending on semantics... But we're starting to getting pretty philosophical at the point where we're talking about what is or isn't real.
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Re: Random: The Zelda: Skyward Sword Joy-Con Appear To Feature A Neat Character Reference
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Re: Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings Of Ruin Has Shipped Over One Million Units Worldwide
Nice! I'll pick it up on PC at some point.
Re: Random: The Zelda: Skyward Sword Joy-Con Appear To Feature A Neat Character Reference
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Re: Random: Internet Goes Wild Over One Incredibly Small Detail In Metroid Dread
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Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@CallingSonicSpeed My true score for that game (on GameFAQs) is 7/10. I typically rank games on NL relative to whatever else is on the poll or list at the time. PokΓ©mon S&S provided me with over 100 hours of fun, and I greatly prefer the DLC concept over a third version. I also appreciated the QoL improvements to the formula. S&S is a breezy and frictionless, yet charming and engaging title. It has flaws, such as sub-par graphics, and the dexit situation, but it was fun from start to finish. Have you ever actually played it? Are there thoughts behind your opinions?
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@CallingSonicSpeed Sounds like you've been playing the wrong games.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
I hate to say it, but, they're all bad. I'm sorry, but it's true. I've played at least half of these and beaten around 1/3 of them. Just last year, I was finally able to take off my nostalgia goggles, and realize that none of the Sonic are games are actually good or fun. Level design is meh at it's peak, the stories are nonsense in the worst possible way, the characters are all awful, the game mechanics are shallow (and often broken), and most importantly, 90% of the gameplay just doesn't feel good. Simply put, Sonic games are bad - not just the new ones - all of them. Instead of wading through a cesspool of mediocrity based on nostalgia, I recommend playing games that are actually enjoyable.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 19th)
I've been waiting for a sale on Strife: Veteran Edition and it finally happened. I wanted it on Switch for that wonderful gyro aiming Switch is known for, and it was worth the wait. I'm only about 1/4 of the way through it, but this game was clearly ahead of its time (originally released in 1996), and extremely interesting as a fan of FPS/RPGs and immersive sims. Can't wait to play more!
Re: Metroid Games You Need To Play Before Metroid Dread
Zero Mission > Super > Samus Returns > AM2R > Fusion > Other M > Return of Samus > Metroid
Re: Retro: Remember The First Time Nintendo Did A Zelda Game & Watch?
@sdelfin How/why does flash "present a problem"?
Re: Retro: Remember The First Time Nintendo Did A Zelda Game & Watch?
@Muddy_4_Ever Thank you so much
Re: Retro: Remember The First Time Nintendo Did A Zelda Game & Watch?
http://pica-pic.com/zelda/
You're welcome π
Edit: It's also playable within Game & Watch Gallery 4 for GBA, which is available on Wii U eShop if you don't have the cartridge
Re: Nintendo's Digital Deals Sale Is Now Live, Up To 75% Off Hundreds Of Switch Games
I picked up Strife: Veteran Edition π
Re: Random: Fortnite's Ska Dance Emote Foreshadows A Ska Revival
Middle school was rough
Re: Hypnospace Outlaw Gets A Neat Retro-Styled Physical Release (With A Bonus CD!)
Such a kewl game π I recommend playing with a (non-optical) mouse and keyboard for a truly authentic experience. And don't forget to crash the game anytime someone makes or receives a phone call since your high-speed 56k dialup modem uses the telephone line.
Re: There's An Indie Paper Mario-Like In The Works, And It's About Ghosts
@Sylvaret Let's say, hypothetically, Coca-Cola stopped making Classic Coke. Your argument is like saying, "Stop whining about Coke when you could be drinking Pepsi, RC Cola, and Shasta Cola!" The brand matters, even when the flavor is "the same."
Re: There's An Indie Paper Mario-Like In The Works, And It's About Ghosts
Looks good! Still haven't played Bug Fables yet though. I decided to stop buying so many games until I finish what I already have - outside of absolute must-plays from favorite franchises (such as RE Village and Pokemon Snap).
Re: Pikachu Is Now On The Menu At McDonald's Restaurants In Japan
In Japan, McDonald's mascot Ronald McDonald is known by a totally different name: Donald McDonald.
You're welcome π
Re: Move Aside Nintendo, Devolver Direct Returns On 12th June
Hotline
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Re: Random: Can You Spot Your Favourite PokΓ©mon In This Huge Art Piece?
Found Heatran!
Re: 'Retired' Sonic Voice Actor Announces His Surprise Return To The Role
I just realized Roger Craig Smith was also Chris Redfield... What a world.
Re: Random: We're Getting Major 'Nintendo DS' Vibes From Microsoft's Surface Duo Running Xbox Game Pass
@Strictlystyles Game Pass games cannot be downloaded on Android - unfortunately it is streaming only.
Re: Soapbox: How Resident Evil 4 Taught Me To Stop Hoarding And Love The Grenades
I thought the female version of "beefcake" was "cheesecake" though... lol I just heard that for the first time a few days ago on a podcast and thought it was hilariously stupid
Re: Devolver Digital Will Reveal Four New Games At This Year's Summer Game Fest
@SoManyHaveDied Nothing is impossible - just look at Hotline Milwaukee π
Re: Poll: What's The Best Game Boy Color Game?
Link's Awakening DX
Pokemon Crystal
Zelda Oracle of Ages/Seasons
Game & Watch Gallery 2/3
Caution - Hot takes below:
Pokemon Yellow is better than Red/Blue, but gen one is overrated anyway.
How come Pokemon Pinball is always missing the battery cover?
I played a bit of that leaked version of Pokemon Picross - seemed like a winner, but I have a LOT of other picross games to get through first.
DKL3 (J) is pretty okay, but DKL2 is still better.
SMB Deluxe has great extras, but that shrunken screen size is deal-breakingly small and off-putting.
Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble is difficult to play without a screen mod, so I installed an IPS screen on my GBC. ...Probably wasn't worth it.
There's a bootleg Fire Emblem game that's a bit bananas, but halfway decent for what it is. However, it's only partially fan translated, which kills a fair amount of the appeal for me. Also it's prettttty clunky on top of already being difficult.
Shantae is gorgeous, but not especially fun relative to it's vastly superior sequels.
I never really got into Wario Land 3 since I thought WL2 was only okay. I prefer the gameplay of the original and VB, even compared to WL4 and Shake It.
I keep meaning to play RE Gaiden and Daikatana, but haven't yet.
Re: Devolver Digital Will Reveal Four New Games At This Year's Summer Game Fest
Ape Out 2
Carrion 2
Gato Roboto 2
Hotline Miami 3
Re: Video: Remembering Zelda's Sister Game - The Mysterious Murasame Castle
This game is incredibly difficult, and not very fun in my opinion.
Re: Review: Layers Of Fear 2 - A Decent Premise, But A Disappointing Sequel
5 seems a bit harsh, although I'd still only give it a 6. If you like both horror and walking sims, I would recommend giving it a go when it goes on sale, but I wouldn't pay more than $10 for it. I might be in the minority with this opinion, but I prefer LoF2 over Amnesia 2 and Soma. This game does some neat stuff sometimes - it definitely has some cool moments. In the end, if you didn't like the first one, this will definitely not win you over, as it is worse overall in my opinion.
Re: Talking Point: When Was The Last Time A Game Cracked Your Top Five?
@Classic603 That's totally fair. While I know I'm not alone in loving the original, without a doubt some of that love comes from the time and place.
If you decide to replay it, just remind yourself that it came out almost 30 years ago, and in 1993, it felt like a miracle to play something so big, and so epic on the playground at recess, or in the car on the ride home from school.
Re: Talking Point: When Was The Last Time A Game Cracked Your Top Five?
@Classic603 I loved the art style, and having extra buttons was a nice QoL improvement, but overall I felt like the remake didn't quite capture the charm and magic of the original.
Maybe it's nostalgia goggles to be honest. I played it as a kid way back when it first came out, and previous to that I had never played anything beyond the scope of SMB and Tetris, so it not only opened me up a new genre, but it sort of redefined what games could even be in my young mind.
I also feel like there is/was something special about how the original felt like pushed beyond the limitations of the hardware which made it feel bigger than possible. Of course with vastly superior hardware, any remake just isn't going to be able to match that feeling, and it lost a part of what made the original so special.
Additionally, I was beyond hyped for the remake when it was announced - I couldn't believe it was actually happening - and so maybe my expectations were ultimately just too high.
I still enjoyed the remake, but it's probably not even in my top 75 whereas the original is possibly my favorite - can't decide beyond the 9 or 10 games I listed.
I'm curious if you have feelings on the topic as well, or if you were just asking. Please share if you do π
Re: Talking Point: When Was The Last Time A Game Cracked Your Top Five?
In alphabetical order:
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
EarthBound
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
God of War (2018)
Paper Mario: TTYD
Pokemon Omega Ruby
Portal 2
Super Mario World
Tomb Raider (2013)
As much as I tried to make a top 5, I can't take even one of those off the list.
Re: Fire Emblem: Genealogy Of The Holy War Is Joining Japan's NSO Super Famicom Library
Happy to see support for Fire Emblem regardless of region. This is still a win in my book.
Re: Long Beach Residents Could Win A Nintendo Switch When They Get Their Covid-19 Vaccine
So many anti-vaccine people. You think you're exercising your freedom but you're literally contributing to the death of others.
Re: Video: Remembering The 3D Classics NES Range On Nintendo 3DS
I got them all and they're all great. I only with there were even more.
Re: Soapbox: Be Happy, This Is The True Golden Age Of Gaming
@GamingDude800 LOL π Name calling, now? You're so easily offended that you feel the need to lash out at strangers on the internet? We're on website about video games, dude. People are allowed to have different opinions than you.
Re: Soapbox: Be Happy, This Is The True Golden Age Of Gaming
@aaronsullivan Also old folks clinging to their rose-tinted memories of the "good ol' days."
Re: Soapbox: Be Happy, This Is The True Golden Age Of Gaming
"Back in my day, we had physical manuals and all the content was on the disc. Not a micro transaction in sight! We had to walk to FuncoLand uphill both ways, and trade in our SNES cartridges for pennies just to get an N64. And when we got home from renting Mario Kart at BlockBuster, we gathered around the 24" CRT in the living room with 8' extention cables and we liked it! Scanlines and all! In my day, games were hard as nails, and we'd leave the NES on all night if we had to. We had that game for the weekend and we played it whether we liked it or not! The only 'day one patch' I ever heard of was for my eye from sitting too close to the TV playing GoldenEye splitscreen deathmatch after school. Now get off my lawn, ya whippersnapper!"
So many of these comments just sound like rambling grandpa cliches π
Re: Soapbox: Be Happy, This Is The True Golden Age Of Gaming
So many people living in the past. Gaming today is better than it ever has been. All those old games still exist and are more accessible than ever - if you disagree with that, I'm sorry but you're doing it wrong.
Re: Soapbox: Game Genres Are Broken
Genres labels are great for efficiently communicating generalities, but typically breakdown quickly when we look closer and really start analyzing. The biggest problem with genres is that people don't even agree on definitions, and effective communication is over before it begins.
Edit: I feel like I want to respond to almost every comment so far, and on second thought, I'm just going to let it go and stop myself here
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Re: HAL Laboratory Looking Forward To Sharing Kirby's "Next Phase" With Fans
Dream Course 2, please
Re: Random: Check Out These "Mock-Ups" Of Game Boy Advance For Switch Online
Please stop watering down your content, NL. This article is especially of particularly low quality - the mockup isn't even well done. This website is better than this.
Re: Review: Famicom Detective Club: The Missing Heir - A Delightful And Silly Mystery
@Socar Maybe just let it go and focus on your own reviews, then. If you think you can do so much better, then prove it. There are plenty of websites that allow user reviews. If you're actually good at it, you'll get noticed. Good luck.
Re: Review: Famicom Detective Club: The Missing Heir - A Delightful And Silly Mystery
@Socar If you dislike the review so much, why don't you write your own review and build yourself up instead of tearing other people down?
Re: Review: Famicom Detective Club: The Missing Heir - A Delightful And Silly Mystery
@Socar She said the puzzles are frustrating and obtuse - that alone can knock off 2 points depending on the reviewer. Everyone else here seems to think that's fair. She said too that these are still great games. The score given is significantly above the metacritic average. What more do you need to understand?
Re: Horror Title 'Layers Of Fear 2' Will Spook Your Switch This Month
It's a fine game - not as good as the first one in my opinion, but still good - definitely better than Blair Witch and The Medium.
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Blue Switch Lite Colour Argument With Handy Comparison Video
@bluebonics I think you may have accidently @'d me instead of @thejuice027
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Blue Switch Lite Colour Argument With Handy Comparison Video
@VeraTepes LOL π
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Blue Switch Lite Colour Argument With Handy Comparison Video
@bluebonics I mean, technically there isn't a wavelength of light that corresponds to the color magenta, so depending on semantics... But we're starting to getting pretty philosophical at the point where we're talking about what is or isn't real.
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Blue Switch Lite Colour Argument With Handy Comparison Video
@thejuice027 There is no spoon.