My guess is that Nintendo are doing what they occasionally do in legal matters - using one tool as a means to achieve something else.
For example, last week they got a YouTube video about the Switch flash cart taken down using a copyright strike, on the basis that the video contained a screen shot of their game. Nothing to do with the flash cart itself being able to copy games, although that was rather obviously the real target.
This I suspect is similar. For whatever reason, they have decided that Palworld represents some kind of threat to their IP, but the legal means to do anything could be very limited. Hence, the patent case. What will be interesting is what patents Nintendo says are being broken. There can't be many mechanics unique to Pokemon that haven't been copied somewhere in the past. And if Nintendo didn't take action in the past, then Palworld may actually have a chance.
I accidentally qualified for the UK Nintendo Players MK8 Deluxe Championship recently. Took the kids to a qualifier, and decided to enter for the laugh. Somehow ended up as runner up, beating my own two boys in the final. Think my youngest got blue shelled on the last bend of the final track, so yeah, that went down well...
Call me cynical, but maybe EA has got wind of legislation on loot boxes coming down the road. And EA, being even more cynical than me, knows that Fifa licence won't be printing the same amount of money in future. Fifa should be ashamed of itself for enabling child gambling, so I hope they both take a hit.
The white Japanese PC Engine was the first console I ever bought. It was a grey import, and I only had 3 games... R-Type, Dragon Spirit and Wonder Boy in Monsterland, which was tough to play in Japanese. Great wee console. Can't wait. I still play R-Type (badly!)
Now that the Wii Shop is dead, Nintendo could offer Wii and Gamecube games in the Switch shop. After all, they have launched Super Mario Galaxy on the Nvidia Shield in China, and that uses a very similar chip to the Switch. I thought maybe this was an experiment to oave the way for Wii games on Switch, and the joycons could easily replicate Wiimotes.
@kuliddar Yep, finally got my first games room since I was 11 when I married in my late 30s. Now my sons rule that roost during the day... but it's mine when they go to bed! Having said that, there is nothing quite like your kid asking to play one of your older consoles with you. Quite a bonding experience, even if they do occasionally break something. Now THAT is a parenting test!
@Razer Not really. I have 3 young kids, but none of them will be paying anything. So £31.49 Being aged under 11, they don't pay for Xbox live either, and that was around £26, with as many accounts as we like (I was wrong... the difgerwnce not actually as much as a tenner). Xbox live offers cloud saves and modern free games too, and while Nes games are a novelty for 5 minutes, they won't cut the mustard in our house, sorry! Most kids couldn't care less about 8 bit games I'm afraid.
People keep arguing that this is a cheap service compared to others. Yet for those of us who share a Switch (ie, families) and need a family account, I just bought a year on Xbox Live for almost a tenner less than the Nintendo 'family' account costs. So not such great value for many...
While the comment about Iwata was unwarranted - how would Lorne really know the background - there is a valid debate. Is Nintendo putting prohibitive conditions on indie developers? Or are they expecting too much leeway on a new platform, especially after the poor performance of Wii U? I feel he has a point, but was possibly over-egging the pudding a bit, which diminished his more salient arguments (and not just witj the Iwata comment). Here's another video which explores similar themes with a Switch title - worth watching: https://youtu.be/F4s71LCxS7M
Reading this fascinating article reminded me of a similar Digital Foundary one from 2014 about a frustrated developer trying to get a game out on Wii U. Worth a read if you have the time; it turned out to be quite prescient. Let's hope the Switch isn't a case of corporate history repeating.
Bit unfair to suggest the slowdown might be an emulator problem if it happened on the original hardware. If it did, it means the emulator is more accurate, not less. Old arcade addicts like myself used to welcome a bit of slowdown as respite. I can remember even using it to my advantage by creating slowdown with multiples in some levels of this series.
Funny, I watched it with my 3 kids and the two little ones were bored by the series of men in suits. They only watched when the games came on - they loved seeing Splatoon 2, Mario and even the snatches Sonic. The oldest on is aged 10 and he was impressed by the RPGs, but the executives were utterly dull and occasionally cringe worthy. It felt like your uncle dancing at a wedding as he tried to be down with the kids. I can only assume the whole presentation was aimed at people other than those who might buy the system, ie the shareholders. And judging by how Nintendo's share price dipped afterwards, even they weren't impressed. It was a real disappointment after such a great advert in October.
Shovel Knight is actually £5.20. And Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival is £7.95 at The Game Collection.
I have to say the Nintendo deals are generally rubbish. I called into Game and they basically had none. If Nintendo is serious about shifting Wii Us before the switch comes out, it's probably best to price it BELOW the cost of a PS4 or Xbox one, not higher.
I found this video the other night and have to say I found it very interesting. Good production values too. I watched quite a few more of their vids over the next couple of days, and they are good. But I can't believe I am now spending hours watching videos about flippin CABLES! But surely every retro gamer has a few boxes of tangled cables in their man cave/ bedroom? It's not just me, right?
@manu0 Good point. Jails these days are just full to the brim with PSP modders who have a Snes emulator. Barely a day goes by without some shifty-eyed so-called retro gaming fan getting sent down for a 10 stretch. Hangings too good for them.
Look at how the cost of the 3DS range is going through the floor. Console traders and shops aren't stupid. They know what's xoming, so they need to shift them now, before they get stuck with dead stock.
This guy from Nomura Securities deserves a Nobel Prize in Economics. He basically says the the next Nintendo will hurt sales of the old one. Genius. No-one would ever have thought that.
Next week: new iPhone spells sales disaster for old iPhone.
Those are really the ONLY decent deals. The PS4 and Xbone are now the same price as a Wii U, which was crying out for a sub £200 price tag. Can't see too many parents picking up a Wii U off amazon if it can't beat those two... WTF Nintendo?!
Compare the passion in this interview to the waffle spouted by the EA spokesman in the other article today. Hope this game is as good as it looks, but I'm convinced.
@Sean_Aaron wrote: "There is no reason why current limitations of people's internet connections couldn't be overcome by in-store kiosks where you could do the download and burn to disc or SD. "
You mean like the Nintendo Power cartridge in Japan during the Super Famicom era?
How Nintendo charge for games will be critical. As a family orientated company, they will suffer if they force countless micropayments out of kids. I'd rather pay a few quid upfront, knowing I get a complete game (for myself or my sons). Or go the Mario Kart 8 way and offer major DLC later. Also, wouldn't a Nintendo phone with a D-pad and buttons be nice to play the games on!? However that won't matter if all we're getting is Mario Candy Crush or Angry Yoshis...
Nintendo might be creating a new problem for itself. Without a strong catalogue of games in the Wii U's final year or two, more and more owners will be buying a PS4 or Xbox One. I have three young boys, and the oldest, age eight, badly wants an Xbone. If he gets one for Christmas, it means its highly unlikely our house will be getting an NX the following year. Most games consoles have strong 3rd party support to take them through the system's final year, a period where those developers are also pushing the hardware and there is a glut of games before the older system is abandoned. None of this happening for Nintendo, and I fear it might hurt the next system launch.
I really wish Nintendo would make a Skylanders-type game where the characters actually burst into life on screen. And yes, I know that Superchargers will allow a couple of new amiibo to be used, but just makes me wonder why Nintendo don't do it themselves...
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Re: Palworld Developer Responds To Nintendo Lawsuit
My guess is that Nintendo are doing what they occasionally do in legal matters - using one tool as a means to achieve something else.
For example, last week they got a YouTube video about the Switch flash cart taken down using a copyright strike, on the basis that the video contained a screen shot of their game. Nothing to do with the flash cart itself being able to copy games, although that was rather obviously the real target.
This I suspect is similar. For whatever reason, they have decided that Palworld represents some kind of threat to their IP, but the legal means to do anything could be very limited. Hence, the patent case. What will be interesting is what patents Nintendo says are being broken. There can't be many mechanics unique to Pokemon that haven't been copied somewhere in the past. And if Nintendo didn't take action in the past, then Palworld may actually have a chance.
Re: 20th Super Mario Kart Championships Start Their Engines On Twitch Today
I accidentally qualified for the UK Nintendo Players MK8 Deluxe Championship recently. Took the kids to a qualifier, and decided to enter for the laugh. Somehow ended up as runner up, beating my own two boys in the final. Think my youngest got blue shelled on the last bend of the final track, so yeah, that went down well...
Re: EA Is Considering Dropping The 'FIFA' Name In Favour Of Something New
Call me cynical, but maybe EA has got wind of legislation on loot boxes coming down the road. And EA, being even more cynical than me, knows that Fifa licence won't be printing the same amount of money in future. Fifa should be ashamed of itself for enabling child gambling, so I hope they both take a hit.
Re: Konami Just Revealed The PC Engine / TurboGrafx-16 Mini
The white Japanese PC Engine was the first console I ever bought. It was a grey import, and I only had 3 games... R-Type, Dragon Spirit and Wonder Boy in Monsterland, which was tough to play in Japanese. Great wee console. Can't wait. I still play R-Type (badly!)
Re: Yuji Naka Thanks Sonic Fans For Encouraging Movie Director To Change Controversial Design
After seeing the trailer, I've been calling it the Sonic the Rat movie.
Re: More Than 8 Million Accounts Are Subscribed To Nintendo Switch Online
Now that the Wii Shop is dead, Nintendo could offer Wii and Gamecube games in the Switch shop. After all, they have launched Super Mario Galaxy on the Nvidia Shield in China, and that uses a very similar chip to the Switch. I thought maybe this was an experiment to oave the way for Wii games on Switch, and the joycons could easily replicate Wiimotes.
Re: Review: Horizon Chase Turbo - A Worthy Successor To Sega's Out Run
@Stargazer Increasing $2.99 by 230% is $9.87. It's much more... almost 569%.
Re: Analysts Believe Nintendo Will Fall Short Of Its Target To Ship 38 Million Switch By March 2019
According to this analysis, you'd be better off flipping a coin than paying attention to Pachter's advice: https://www.tipranks.com/analysts/michael-pachter
Re: Video: This Personal Video Game Collection Is The Greatest Of All-Time
@kuliddar Yep, finally got my first games room since I was 11 when I married in my late 30s. Now my sons rule that roost during the day... but it's mine when they go to bed! Having said that, there is nothing quite like your kid asking to play one of your older consoles with you. Quite a bonding experience, even if they do occasionally break something. Now THAT is a parenting test!
Re: 82% Of Starlink: Battle For Atlas Sales Were On Switch In UK, Only Managed 14th In Charts Debut
Is it possible to set up a US account on Switch, download the game cheaply from the US eshop, and then just play it on your regular UK account?
Re: NES Games On Switch Playable For Up To Seven Days Without Internet Connection
@Razer Not really. I have 3 young kids, but none of them will be paying anything. So £31.49 Being aged under 11, they don't pay for Xbox live either, and that was around £26, with as many accounts as we like (I was wrong... the difgerwnce not actually as much as a tenner). Xbox live offers cloud saves and modern free games too, and while Nes games are a novelty for 5 minutes, they won't cut the mustard in our house, sorry! Most kids couldn't care less about 8 bit games I'm afraid.
Re: NES Games On Switch Playable For Up To Seven Days Without Internet Connection
People keep arguing that this is a cheap service compared to others. Yet for those of us who share a Switch (ie, families) and need a family account, I just bought a year on Xbox Live for almost a tenner less than the Nintendo 'family' account costs. So not such great value for many...
Re: Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum ‘n’ Fun! Officially Confirmed For Western Switch Release
Is it time to dig out the old Donkey Kongo bongos and Gamecube to USB adapter last used on Super Smash Bros?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend?
Thimbleweed Park and Renegade... cos I never left the 80s.
Re: Beloved Magazine Super Play Is Being Revived For The SNES Classic Edition Launch
@SLIGEACH_EIRE ... Ironically a problem that Retro Gamer doesn't have, as all it's news is decades old!
Re: Retro City Rampage DX is Locked in for 3rd August on Nintendo Switch
I played this a bit on the PSP. Lots of nice retro references. And good fun.
Re: Oddworld Creator Lorne Lanning "Has No Faith" In Switch
While the comment about Iwata was unwarranted - how would Lorne really know the background - there is a valid debate. Is Nintendo putting prohibitive conditions on indie developers? Or are they expecting too much leeway on a new platform, especially after the poor performance of Wii U? I feel he has a point, but was possibly over-egging the pudding a bit, which diminished his more salient arguments (and not just witj the Iwata comment). Here's another video which explores similar themes with a Switch title - worth watching: https://youtu.be/F4s71LCxS7M
Re: Feature: The Growing Pains of Curation on the Nintendo Switch eShop
Reading this fascinating article reminded me of a similar Digital Foundary one from 2014 about a frustrated developer trying to get a game out on Wii U. Worth a read if you have the time; it turned out to be quite prescient. Let's hope the Switch isn't a case of corporate history repeating.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-secret-developers-wii-u-the-inside-story
Re: Review: Gradius (Wii U eShop / TG-16)
Bit unfair to suggest the slowdown might be an emulator problem if it happened on the original hardware. If it did, it means the emulator is more accurate, not less. Old arcade addicts like myself used to welcome a bit of slowdown as respite. I can remember even using it to my advantage by creating slowdown with multiples in some levels of this series.
Re: Hands On: Putting the Nintendo Switch Hardware Through Its Paces
Funny, I watched it with my 3 kids and the two little ones were bored by the series of men in suits. They only watched when the games came on - they loved seeing Splatoon 2, Mario and even the snatches Sonic. The oldest on is aged 10 and he was impressed by the RPGs, but the executives were utterly dull and occasionally cringe worthy. It felt like your uncle dancing at a wedding as he tried to be down with the kids. I can only assume the whole presentation was aimed at people other than those who might buy the system, ie the shareholders. And judging by how Nintendo's share price dipped afterwards, even they weren't impressed. It was a real disappointment after such a great advert in October.
Re: Guide: The Top Nintendo Black Friday 2016 Deals in the UK
Shovel Knight is actually £5.20. And Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival is £7.95 at The Game Collection.
I have to say the Nintendo deals are generally rubbish. I called into Game and they basically had none. If Nintendo is serious about shifting Wii Us before the switch comes out, it's probably best to price it BELOW the cost of a PS4 or Xbox one, not higher.
Re: Video: Let's Celebrate The Hot Mess That Was The GameCube's AV Output
I found this video the other night and have to say I found it very interesting. Good production values too. I watched quite a few more of their vids over the next couple of days, and they are good. But I can't believe I am now spending hours watching videos about flippin CABLES! But surely every retro gamer has a few boxes of tangled cables in their man cave/ bedroom? It's not just me, right?
Right? Back me up! Lol!
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@Shiryu You could always buy a PSP and softmod it!
Re: Konami and Capcom Are Bringing Some SNES Classics to New 3DS
@manu0 Good point. Jails these days are just full to the brim with PSP modders who have a Snes emulator. Barely a day goes by without some shifty-eyed so-called retro gaming fan getting sent down for a 10 stretch. Hangings too good for them.
Re: Macronix Will Be Providing Memory Products for the NX
Look at how the cost of the 3DS range is going through the floor. Console traders and shops aren't stupid. They know what's xoming, so they need to shift them now, before they get stuck with dead stock.
Re: Analysis: Assessing Why NX Needs to Take Over From Both the Wii U and 3DS
This guy from Nomura Securities deserves a Nobel Prize in Economics. He basically says the the next Nintendo will hurt sales of the old one. Genius. No-one would ever have thought that.
Next week: new iPhone spells sales disaster for old iPhone.
Re: Analysis: Assessing Why NX Needs to Take Over From Both the Wii U and 3DS
Am I the first to predict the Nintendo watch running the NX operating system? If so, you can thank me later.
Re: Bowser And Donkey Kong Skylanders Superchargers amiibo Releasing In Cheaper Combo Packs
No dark editions. Annoying for completists.
Re: Prepare to Get Creative With Minecraft-Inspired Game Discovery Coming to Wii U eShop Soon
Is Minecraft Story Mode coming to the Wii U? Or do we have to wait three years longer than everyone else for that too?
Re: Official Nintendo UK Store Launches 3DS Hardware and Merchandise Price Drops
Those are really the ONLY decent deals. The PS4 and Xbone are now the same price as a Wii U, which was crying out for a sub £200 price tag. Can't see too many parents picking up a Wii U off amazon if it can't beat those two... WTF Nintendo?!
Re: The Starforce Pi Is An Arcade You Can Fit In Your Rucksack
Looks like my old Firefox F1 ... anyone remember that?
Re: Feature: Finding Top Speed in FAST Racing NEO
Compare the passion in this interview to the waffle spouted by the EA spokesman in the other article today. Hope this game is as good as it looks, but I'm convinced.
Re: Editorial: It's Far Too Soon to Go Download-Only, and Physical Retail Still Matters
@Sean_Aaron wrote: "There is no reason why current limitations of people's internet connections couldn't be overcome by in-store kiosks where you could do the download and burn to disc or SD. "
You mean like the Nintendo Power cartridge in Japan during the Super Famicom era?
Re: Analysts Talk About Nintendo's Upcoming Mobile Release Strategy
How Nintendo charge for games will be critical. As a family orientated company, they will suffer if they force countless micropayments out of kids. I'd rather pay a few quid upfront, knowing I get a complete game (for myself or my sons). Or go the Mario Kart 8 way and offer major DLC later. Also, wouldn't a Nintendo phone with a D-pad and buttons be nice to play the games on!? However that won't matter if all we're getting is Mario Candy Crush or Angry Yoshis...
Re: Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Originally Didn't Have a Single Player Mode
I take it multiple copies are required for local multiplayer?
Re: Nintendo's UK Store Gives Free eShop Copy of Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer Following Order Delay
I'm still waiting the amiibo they 'dispatched' on September 23. Pretty sure I won't be getting a download code for that! !
Re: Goomba Fortress infiltration
Argh!
Re: Editorial: Cheer Up, There Are Some Exciting Games on the Way
Nintendo might be creating a new problem for itself. Without a strong catalogue of games in the Wii U's final year or two, more and more owners will be buying a PS4 or Xbox One. I have three young boys, and the oldest, age eight, badly wants an Xbone. If he gets one for Christmas, it means its highly unlikely our house will be getting an NX the following year. Most games consoles have strong 3rd party support to take them through the system's final year, a period where those developers are also pushing the hardware and there is a glut of games before the older system is abandoned. None of this happening for Nintendo, and I fear it might hurt the next system launch.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Approach to amiibo is Increasingly Frustrating
I really wish Nintendo would make a Skylanders-type game where the characters actually burst into life on screen. And yes, I know that Superchargers will allow a couple of new amiibo to be used, but just makes me wonder why Nintendo don't do it themselves...