Despite its rough edges, we're still fans of WaterMelon Games' faux-retro RPG Pier Solar here at Nintendo Life, having followed the development of the game from its release on the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive all the way up to its eventual launch on the Wii U eShop. When we heard that the company was producing another 16-bit title, modelled after belt-scrolling fighters like Streets of Rage and Final Fight, our interest was well and truly piqued.
That was way back in March 2017, however, and Paprium has endured a rather torrid development period since then. In 2018, the game's co-creator and lead artist Luis Martins spoke exclusively to us about the lack of transparency and poor communication skills of WaterMelon boss Gwenael "Fronzie" Godde, and that he was, at that point, still awaiting payment for his work on the game.
Later that year, the story became even more strange as a 'launch party' for the game revealed that the title wasn't even in a finished state.
Despite all of this, it would seem that the troubled project is finally nearing its conclusion:
Amazingly, even though the Paprium saga has left a bad taste in the mouths of many, WaterMelon has just announced another Genesis project – but it's expecting people to lay down cash before even seeing a single screenshot.
Entitled A(...)M(...)96, it's another scrolling fighter for Sega's 16-bit console, and will cost you $169 for the standard version and $229 for the limited edition. WaterMelon clearly expects this to become something of a collector's item, as it is only creating a single batch, and warns buyers "if you miss it now, you miss it forever!" It is also encouraging people to buy in bulk, stating that a discount will be applied to orders of more than 7 units, and that any order over $4999 will get a "free arcade cab, custom-made for the game."
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I nearly had a heart attack when the 'ready for shipment' email landed in my inbox!
I hope for an affordable Megadrive Release in the Future
Yeah, thanks but no thanks. You'd be a fool to pay that much for a 16 bit game. Simply ridiculous.
And I can't be persuaded with those "buy now or lose out forever" comments. They should have made these games available for modern platforms as well, but seeing as they apparently aren't going to do so, I'll simply download the ROMs for both games, seeing as they'll inevitably pop up at some point...
£150 without even seeing it? Yeah good luck lads you're going to need it.
the only thing they're encouraging is to emulate the game. No way am I spending $200 on a beat em up that probably takes like two hours at the most to finish.
Sounds like an absolute scam.
Not sure if they're trolling or have serious mental problems.
I didn't want to pay the 70 (more or less) euros it cost back then, I don't like to pay now and wait for months, let alone years, but now they have hugely increased the price because (and I know because I know backers who received this info) they have to cover for the losses they had, so people can still buy the game, but now for more than double than before.
@ThanosReXXX
I like the Way how Micro Mages did it.
You can buy the Game on Steam and use the ROM where you want.
Be it in another Emulator, the 3DSEN or put it even on a Everdrive and play ot on original Hardware.
I wish more would do it that Way.
I think it is even possible to take out the ROMs of the Megadrive Collection on Steam.
I payed up front for the standard edition, they still have my damn money!! I tried to claim back through playpal but supposedly I left it to late. Obviously I was stupid thinking they would get this done and ship. So let's see what happens next.
If the game is already done then they need to ship it out to the backers asap otherwise I don't see any faith in their next project. Also they seriously need to make games for the modern systems instead of the dead old ancient Sega Genesis.
Eh, has anyone got a link to someone actually playing this to prove it is in fact a real final playable version?
It's art. I love it. Value on this one is subjective.
@impurekind Interestingly, Joe from Game Sack revealed that he was invited to see a playthrough a few months back. Otherwise, nope, public footage isn't available. I think the lack of launch trailer or final gameplay footage probably says it all.
@Azuris Totally agree. Micro Mages had this figured out. I was hoping Paprium would be something like that. But sorry for $169..... Yeah, no....
Was shocked to see the email as well. Had all but forgotten about this, it has been so long. This is pretty cool. Too bad I no longer have a working Genesis.
@Azuris Yeah, I've no idea what these guys were/are thinking. Probably focusing a bit too much on making their games exclusive or special, when they could have chosen to put a digital version of it on the various consoles, which would more than likely also make them far more money than selling a single batch of limited edition cartridges...
I will play this on my Polymega in 2024
@Reprise Dont get your hopes up. I preordered Pier Solar for the Dreamcast for $50 and that seemed overpriced for how basic the game is. Got that same email then a week later it turns out that no, the game isn't ready and has been pushed to the end of the year
Just wait for the rom to be available online. Their games aren't worth the price or the wait.
@Papichulo Oh I know. I also preordered Pier Solar on the Dreamcast and remember that fiasco. I still have the support tickets saved in my account from then and had fun reading them last night now the site is back.
The annoying thing is I'm supposed to be moving in a month or two. What's the betting they don't ship the games out for months just like what happened with Pier Solar and I never get my copy? (hopefully Royal Mail Redirection actually works).
I was also surprised to see that email show up. I'm on their list, but I did not order Paprium. I thought I had missed some developments, but it seems like this came out of nowhere. Good luck to those who actually did purchase the game that it actually delivers a good experience after such a long and troubling wait. It looks like Watermelon is trying to power through their self-inflicted issues and act like they never happened, which is one option. I'm not optimistic about their future plans, and it's quite bold to charge those prices for future products with those policies. And I'm not a fan of those kinds of time restraints. My FOMO is very weak, and I tend to walk away from ultimatums like that.
Well, I'm glad that folks here aren't falling for this tripe. "New" retro games are a dime a dozen, running on original hardware doesn't justify the absurd price tags this developer wants.
Turns out Pier Solar was delisted on the XBox store. There's my contribution
@Retro_Player_77 Someone who makes games for a console that has been discontinued for 20 years has their market in mind. On the other hand, it sounds like they didn't update much, on this game I think was in development since like 2013.
Still I thought this game had been remade for PC. Some of the technical info they released about the game a few years ago (such as the size and number of sprites), I think might have been more than an actual Genesis could handle.
There's a typo in the article. I assume it should say:
"if you send us money now, you miss it forever!"
Definitely a 90's commercial.
I had an email from them last night saying my Papruim box set and comic are ready to ship. I payed 3 years ago and forgot about it and put it down to money lost which is the case when you back anything Via Kickstarter. I noticed the price has now doubled from what I payed for it.
As for the people saying they’re going pirate it Magical Factory have said there not going to release a rom. So good luck with that.
Scrolling fighters are my absolute favourite genre so I’m happy to pay the money for it.
So this Paprium isn’t coming to any modern console yet is still getting coverage on Nintendo Life...?
Aight then. Game looks cool though.
Paprium is complete? Yeah, right...
@Shadow_Dancer You do know you can get devices that let you read carts and copy there contents right? All you need is one person who buys it and owns one of these and decides to do it, heck a Chinese bootlegger could buy a reader buy the game and then bootleg the heck out of it and £5/$5 bootleg carts all round.
Just a warning, the link on the new game's title leads to a page with very bright flashing lights. I'm sure this isn't intentional, but someone at Nintendo Life needs to take the link down.
Not even coming to a Nintendo platform. I should have stopped reading this crappy article when I saw who the author was!
@Reprise You would think Christmas time during a pandemic would be the perfect time to release a mediocre game but Watermelon operates on the we do it whenever we feel like it policy
Why not release a digital version for console and a cart for the weirdos that still game on prehistoric systems in 2020? I mean, it's a win-win.
After supporting their Pier Solar Genesis/MD effort, I would've totally purchased this, but I agree on all these comments. I can't justify (especially with the times) dropping $169 sight-unseen on a game. I got burned already with another "sight unseen" project, which ended up not delivering on anything (see: Saber Riders & The Star Sheriffs on Kickstarter).
I feel they'd have a lot more support (and make a lot more money) if they lowered the price to $80 at most. But it's almost like they want to enjoy the blackmarket prices from the gate. Strange business model.
Ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you'll get a FREE arcade cabinet, you'll be extremely lucky to get a game. This outfit is a joke. Until my game is in my hands I will not believe this is finished.
@Steviis_Father I was not a backer of Saber Rider, but I was rooting for it and was following along with its development for a while. And I do think they intended to make a game when they did the Kickstarter. But I think that excitement to make a game does not last, especially when the reality of indie game development takes over. Regardless of intention, the reality is they failed and people are out money. I'm sorry for you and others that got burned on that. I probably would have backed if the timing was different. While Bloodstained did deliver a game was that largely well received, I got burned on it beause they cancelled my platform six months before release, and their PR guy that I dealt with was a clown, in my opinion. I was lucky that, since they did actually complete the game, I was able to sell my key and actually recoup my money thanks to ebay. But I certainly won't support Artplay and 505 ever again, and am far less likely to back anything, with the exception of maybe Yacht Club or Wayforward.
"Buy now or miss out forever! Buy in bulk and you'll get a discount per item. No release date, and absolutely no footage to show! Hardware that's been discontinued for around 25 years!"
This just screams scam artist to me, all the way.
@Steviis_Father well, there are news on that front too
https://titangamestudios.com/2020/09/16/interview-with-one-of-the-pier-solar-creators-tulio/
@Steviis_Father I backed Saber Rider too. Elysian Shadows as as well... Damn, what was I thinking.
@Papichulo Loooool I've actually had shipping confirmation. Even got a real tracking number and everything! What is this madness? Maybe a bunch of rocks will arrive.
@ThanosReXXX
Have also seen a Game selling as a ROM on Dragonbox for ~3€, but it was totally not mine.
Maybe one Day more Peeps sell their Stuff as ROMs and we can just put it on a Everdrive etc and play it how and where we want
Edit:
Here it is:
https://www.dragonbox.de/de/spiele/digitale-download-spiele/xump-2-back-to-space-megadrive-digitaler-download-digitale-download-spiele
@Azuris Hm, interesting.
OK, now that I've actually seen the real thing...
Given the utter quality of the game, from the packaging to the game itself and even the arcade stick, I now wouldn't negatively judge anyone who decides to give them money upfront for their next game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly holding a grudge imo, and not judging fairly what's actually in front of them:
WaterMelon games has absolutely delivered with Paprium, and it's earned my respect big time with what it's achieved. I can't think of another indie creating modern games for retro consoles that's even comes close to achieving what WaterMelon games has done here. Credit and Kudos where it is due.
@ROBLOGNICK If you've seen what the final version of Paprium ended up like, from the packaging/box to the game and even the themed arcade stick, then you'd know it's not likely to be a scam. Whatever anyone thinks of all the issues and rumours surrounding Paprium's development, WaterMelon games absolutely delivered on the promise of its Kickstarter from so long ago:
Everyone was calling Paprium "vapourware"--and they couldn't have been more wrong.
@Mach_Rider
@impurekind I'm glad people are getting their game after all, even though they should've received it A LONG time ago. What I'm more interested in though is the fact that, as stated in an interview, one of the people who worked with WaterMelon has supposedly been handed everything from the "Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs" game and is trying to finish it...which would be great, since I backed that project and we've had no updates for over 2 years now...
I literally discovered this today! Saw it on Ebay going for whopping money! And freaked "This game is out!" I thought. And wanted to confirm (as I pre-ordered) but forgot my own username, went bananas. Only to uncover that I got an email sent on the 13th of December. Which has my username! Whew, now I only hope it gets here.
But this game, is great by default I guess. But the enemy A.I looks a bit odd and the blue pill stuff doesn't quite make sense to me. Seeing all these videos has me pumped though.
😆😆😆😆😆 some people and their narcissism. I played many a 16-bit side scrolling beat'em up, and they're more rival turf than peacekeepers. Don't know how far your head is, up your own ass, but to ask $150+ for any version, is asinine. May your game be emulated to the nth degree.
@Damo This sounds way too Fyre Festival-esque for my blood.
WATA graded Paprium just hit the eBay market. https://www.ebay.com/itm/165338852477
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