Until Nintendo starts making more than 500 Switches a month, I'm not putting a lot of stock into the system being a hit yet. Right now they are giving the illusion it's a hot item. But I saw way more, "I need to get one of these" with the NES Mini than I have with the Switch. If Nintendo would have stocked the NES Mini properly, I think it would be outselling Switch by a lot.
@Alikan You sir, are demanding quite a lot there for a company that's only been in business for like 125 years. They are just figuring out this whole supply and demand concept.
I hope something changes with gyms. My 4 year old son is so sad when I have to keep telling him we can't take that gym on because the "easiest" Pokemon in the gym is at 2700+ CP.
Best I've felt about Nintendo in awhile after that. Once they give us a release date on that Pokemon Switch title that is clearly just starting production, I'll become a Switch owner then.
Oh and Monster Hunter World = Best of E3. Hands down. Sad we won't see it until mid to late 2018 I assume for the system that matters, PC.
@WaveBoy You meant to @ the comment above mine. No biggie.
I will say PC/PS4/Xboner won E3 since they all get the next Monster Hunter and Nintendo does not. Sad about that, but I at least have a gaming PC, so i can still play it.
A nice job by Nintendo. I can at least now see myself for sure getting a Switch by 2018, probably when there is a special edition Pokemon version. 3DS looks like its going to keep me busy for a year plus easy.
It sounds a lot more appealing to say you developed a game for the most powerful handheld game system available rather than the 5th most powerful system of this generation behind two Xboxs and 2 Playstation consoles.
I just want to feel excited or have a desire to buy a Switch after E3. I don't think that's asking for too much.
3DS still has plenty of great looking games coming down the pipeline, so I can wait for Switch to find itself... but man it needs to find itself and stop repackaging WiiU games I already own.
@Nico85 More than what they did. Atlus revealed 3 new 3DS games later on Wednesday, and I think it's going to be very hard for Nintendo to top those announcements next week in a tiny 30 minute presentation.
Keep in mind, for me, any more ports announced receive a negative grade from me. Give me new stuff, not repackaged. And I'm fully expecting 1/3 of that 30 minute presentation to be on repackaged WiiU and DS stuff.
@Pigeon I meant just XV or the other newish FF game. Not XIV. But an MMO on Switch wouldn't be the worst thing. So I wouldn't be against it, but its past its prime.
But sure everyone just go ahead and be cool with now paying $20 a year, just so you can get 30% off buying Super Mario Bros 3 for the 9th time where us non payers will only get 20% off.
Good to see Third party companies still think that Nintendo fans want motion controls.
To be fair, they bought the Wii in droves, with motion controls, didn't WiiU which didn't have them really, but are again with Switch, which is pushing them.
@JaxonH I know its a remake, however, they already have the DLC notes all ready to go. Which means its done or basically done. If you made it already, include it.
You know what else wasn't in the original? 3D Visuals, but somehow we aren't getting charged for that. Or voice acting.
It's not a stretch to ask for ALL of the extra stuff they created, again especially if you are paying extra for the special editions.
Of course, with me, paid DLC has been, is, and always will be total BS. I bought your game, stop trying to nickel and dime me to death.
Have the LE version preordered, but NO WAY in heck am I buying this overpriced DLC that should have been in the game in the first place. BS Nintendo, BS.
@Deanster101 I know you are getting harassed for not recognizing all the 3rd party porting going on and indy devs, but you are correct in that AAA 3rd parties haven't really backed the console yet, with a few exceptions... of ports.... beyong Bomberman, but come on, thats a 20 years old PC port up ressed.
Mind blowing. Switch owners just sent a clear message to Nintendo, "Stop making new games and just rebox the old ones!'
When I get Switch in 2018, when hopefully there will be some exclusive games for it, this will be bought again unless I find it for like $10, which isn't going to happen obviously.
@RickRau5 The WiiU let us know exactly how many core Nintendo fans are left worldwide - about 10-11 million. So they haven't appealed to anyone new in the video gaming market until they surpass WiiU sales.
So no, right now there are no guarantees they will get 3rd party support.
If you can't sell 5 million systems with Breath of the Wild, you might as well file for bankruptcy. Its Zelda for crying out loud.
No COD, no Tekken.... yeah, Switch isn't exactly pulling in the important third party games so far. Nintendo is going to need to get sales well over $20 million in a hurry. Like, in the next 3 months. But that would involve actually making and selling more systems, and Nintendo is not a fan of selling their popular items.
@CosmicLight "Nintendo has really poor communication. " This is your most accurate statement.
Telling me it's "an assembly line" problem is total BS. If something sells, you make more. That's simple business practice.
The Switch is going to get a revision. I'm going to wait for that. So I guess I hope they reach whatever number they need to so they can start work on that revision, but right now they are just releasing an outdated product that most AAA publishers still haven't jumped on or shown interest in.
But to be honest, if Nintendo did say, ""Hey guys we never cared about the classic, it was all to take advantage of you guys to have us on your mind."" I'd actually appreciate the honesty for once from them. They now lie as much if not more than most video game companies.
1) Did Nintendo stop NES Mini production because it was getting ready to surpass Switch sales? 2) Have Switch sales hit a saturation point and Nintendo feels the SNES Mini will give them an actual thing to sell this holiday? 3) Now that Nintendo saw NES Mini can sell for $200 online, will they make the starting price for the SNES Mini at $250+ 4) Will Nintendo even bother to make like 10,000 SNES Minis, or just release a few dozen each week just to sit back and enjoy the outrage? 5) What first party games will Nintendo leave off the SNES Mini and the reason will be some lazy excuse?
@MoonKnight7 As noted by all of your hearts for your comment, you hit the nail on the head. Anyone who disagreed with you is simply part of the Nintendo Defense Force that would blindly agree with any Nintendo decision, even if they did something crazy like decide Mario's new name is SLjslkjlJSFLKJDSLKFj. They'd justify it, somehow....
@CosmicLight There are lot of people out there that just wanted to buy a NES Mini for $60 for their husbands that used to play video games. They have no desire to spend $300 on a Switch + the $300 in controllers + $60 each for the 5-10 retail games that will be released each year.
It was a 1-time, $60- purchase. The demographic for Switch and NES Mini are the not as overlapping as Nintendo wants to believe. They are missing out on money, something they've struggled to make tons of since the Wii/DS days.
You guys are being too kind. They screwed this up from the start. They should have taken preorders to see the demand. They should have found ways to restock. They should not have discontinued before even coming close to saturation point.
All it says to me is don't buy a Switch because the people currently in charge of Nintendo don't know how to be successful in the video games market anymore.
@Nintenerdguy I will make the time to play all 30 games. I own oer 600 games, about 500 of them on NIntendo systems. I haven't played them, I probably never will. But NES games are short, and at the least I can play each for like 30 min, and that would be worthwhile in my mind. And if my kids like them, they can play whatever and not fail miserably trying to switch a NES cart and hurting something.
@Syrek24 I own some of the games on the NES Mini for the original NES. Not shockingly, the games that used to save don't really anymore. With 2 or 3 exceptions, I have not rebought any NES games on VC b/c I already bought them in the past. And $5 per game is outrageous. $2 per game and with a system that is only supposed to do 1 thing, play NES games, is ideal in my mind.
I want one to use it. I've never seen one to be able to buy it. I cannot be the only one who feels this way. I want to share these games with my kids
But if Nintendo insists I try and teach my young children how to play NES game with far more complicated controllers than the NES and probably discourage them, then I guess smart on them...
Let's reenact how this went down at Nintendo HQ...
Nintendo Exec #1: How's that NES Mini selling in the US?
N Exec #2: Selling like hot cakes sir. Can't keep it on the shelves!
N Exec #1: Wait, so it's not the shelves at all times to advertise our products like the WiiU was?
N Exec #2: Well... I guess not, because people are buying it!
N Exec #1: This is no good. Discontinue it!
N Exec #2: Hmm... I see your point. We don't want to spend money on marketing, so having undesirable products sit on the shelves is much more effective to getting our name out there!
N Exec #3: Wait you two, I don't think that's how it works. Don't we want to make money?
Everyone Else in the Room: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.... make money? With games? Why would we want to do that when we can sell our dumb fans amiibo that do nothing in the 5 games we release for our systems each year?
@Nintenerdguy EXACTLY. I mean why should we all buy a $60 item that has 30 items when we could go on the Virtual console and use that same $60 to buy 12 NES games! (#Sarcasm cause you probably don't realize NES Mini is a better deal)
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Re: Nintendo Switch Sales Surge Past A Million In Japan
Until Nintendo starts making more than 500 Switches a month, I'm not putting a lot of stock into the system being a hit yet. Right now they are giving the illusion it's a hot item. But I saw way more, "I need to get one of these" with the NES Mini than I have with the Switch. If Nintendo would have stocked the NES Mini properly, I think it would be outselling Switch by a lot.
Re: More Rumours Add Weight to Talk of a SNES Classic Mini
@Alikan You sir, are demanding quite a lot there for a company that's only been in business for like 125 years. They are just figuring out this whole supply and demand concept.
Re: More Rumours Add Weight to Talk of a SNES Classic Mini
Let's see.
1) Nintendo will make about 1,000 of these.
2) They will sell it at the store for $200.
3) Ebay scalpers will get about c$750 for them.
Sound about right guys?
Re: Pokémon GO Cheaters Get A Nasty Surprise In The Latest Update
@rushiosan In America, that is not a problem. I'm only going off my demo.
Sorry to hear your environment sounds pretty crappy.
Re: The Metroid: Samus Returns Legacy Edition Looks Fabulous
Wow! Let me just just checking out my local North American retailer...
Oh...
Well Nintendo just letting us know how much thee hates America again.
Re: Monster Hunter Stories Will Roar Onto 3DS in Europe on 8th September
Can't wait for this to come out in North America. Looks like fun.
Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd June (North America)
I'll probably download RPG Maker PLayer and see what the 5 people that buy the game come up with.
Re: Pokémon GO Cheaters Get A Nasty Surprise In The Latest Update
Wonderful idea. I can't wait to hear the excuses cheaters make up to justify their lazyness of not actually getting out and playing the game right.
Re: Something Big Is About To Happen To Pokémon GO's Gyms
@Indielink I guess I"ll have to try that, thanks.
Re: Ubisoft's Starlink: Battle For Atlas Isn't Just For Kids, You Know
Have you seen the price tag for the ships? Of course it's not for kids, they can't afford it, lol
Re: Something Big Is About To Happen To Pokémon GO's Gyms
I hope something changes with gyms. My 4 year old son is so sad when I have to keep telling him we can't take that gym on because the "easiest" Pokemon in the gym is at 2700+ CP.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo at E3 2017?
Best I've felt about Nintendo in awhile after that. Once they give us a release date on that Pokemon Switch title that is clearly just starting production, I'll become a Switch owner then.
Oh and Monster Hunter World = Best of E3. Hands down. Sad we won't see it until mid to late 2018 I assume for the system that matters, PC.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's Big Switch and 3DS Reveals at E3 on Day One?
@WaveBoy You meant to @ the comment above mine. No biggie.
I will say PC/PS4/Xboner won E3 since they all get the next Monster Hunter and Nintendo does not. Sad about that, but I at least have a gaming PC, so i can still play it.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's Big Switch and 3DS Reveals at E3 on Day One?
A nice job by Nintendo. I can at least now see myself for sure getting a Switch by 2018, probably when there is a special edition Pokemon version. 3DS looks like its going to keep me busy for a year plus easy.
Re: Talking Point: EA and Bethesda Highlight Nintendo Switch as a Portable Powerhouse at E3
It sounds a lot more appealing to say you developed a game for the most powerful handheld game system available rather than the 5th most powerful system of this generation behind two Xboxs and 2 Playstation consoles.
Re: Feature: Our Nintendo Hopes and Dreams for E3 2017
I just want to feel excited or have a desire to buy a Switch after E3. I don't think that's asking for too much.
3DS still has plenty of great looking games coming down the pipeline, so I can wait for Switch to find itself... but man it needs to find itself and stop repackaging WiiU games I already own.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of the Pokémon Direct and Its Big Reveals?
@Nico85 More than what they did. Atlus revealed 3 new 3DS games later on Wednesday, and I think it's going to be very hard for Nintendo to top those announcements next week in a tiny 30 minute presentation.
Keep in mind, for me, any more ports announced receive a negative grade from me. Give me new stuff, not repackaged. And I'm fully expecting 1/3 of that 30 minute presentation to be on repackaged WiiU and DS stuff.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About Nintendo's E3 2017 Plans?
@Pigeon I meant just XV or the other newish FF game. Not XIV. But an MMO on Switch wouldn't be the worst thing. So I wouldn't be against it, but its past its prime.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About Nintendo's E3 2017 Plans?
@drewber2635 Oh how wrong you already are. 3DS has another 12 months easy in it.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About Nintendo's E3 2017 Plans?
@Pigeon No. Not the port. Give me FF XIV (cause its still new) or XV. The Switch is living on ports right now. No more ports.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of the Pokémon Direct and Its Big Reveals?
@rallydefault They are not brand new 3DS games. They are tweaks from last year. The changes will be minimal from a gameplay perspective.
Re: Snap Up Nintendo Shares Because Switch Could Outsell Wii, Says Analyst Firm Jefferies
Incorrect headline!
"Switch's appeal to core-gamers (vs. Wii to casual gamers) is likely to drive higher attach-rate...."
HIGHER ATTACH RATE, not more sales outright than Wii.
Nintendo Life PLEASE have someone edit these things before posting them.
Re: Press Release Suggests E3 Nintendo Spotlight Will be About 30 Minutes
1/3 of the games will be WiiU ports.
Just hope the other 2/3 of the games will be worthwhile.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of the Pokémon Direct and Its Big Reveals?
"big reveals" in the headline? Bias much? How about just reveals, because they were not big. I don't know if they even qualify as medium sized...
Re: FIFA 18 Gets Reveal Trailer That Suggests Missing Features for Nintendo Switch
The Nintendo version of a major third party publisher is lacking features? Why this has never* happened before.
Screw you EA.
Re: Nintendo Reveals More Details About its Paid Online Service
Online used to be, and is still currently free.
But sure everyone just go ahead and be cool with now paying $20 a year, just so you can get 30% off buying Super Mario Bros 3 for the 9th time where us non payers will only get 20% off.
Re: This New Artwork For Netflix's Castlevania Series Sure Does Look Familiar
Hmm, the plagiarism is strong with this one.
Re: Capcom's Future Output For Switch Depends On Ultra Street Fighter II Sales, States COO
Being a huge fan of Monster Hunter and Resident Evil, among other Capcom franchises, I was glad to see theywere supporting Switch early on.
But this is a very d*** move for the COO to say regarding a remake of a game that has been redone and modified several times.
Re: Video: Street Fighter's Way Of The Hado Is A Hell Made Of Motion Controls
Good to see Third party companies still think that Nintendo fans want motion controls.
To be fair, they bought the Wii in droves, with motion controls, didn't WiiU which didn't have them really, but are again with Switch, which is pushing them.
Wait, I don't blame Capcom. I blame the consumer.
Re: Video: This Culdcept Revolt Overview Covers Card Types, Online Play And Story
Game looks pretty cool, definitely interested in it.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About Nintendo's E3 2017 Plans?
I'm at least up to a luke warm feeling for this new E3.
I want to see big AAA 3rd party support beyond Capcom.
Show me Monster Hunter or Kingdom Hearts 3 or FF XV port, and you have a Switch owner the day they one of those comes out.
Re: Nintendo Outlines Pricing and Details for DLC in Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
@JaxonH I know its a remake, however, they already have the DLC notes all ready to go. Which means its done or basically done. If you made it already, include it.
You know what else wasn't in the original? 3D Visuals, but somehow we aren't getting charged for that. Or voice acting.
It's not a stretch to ask for ALL of the extra stuff they created, again especially if you are paying extra for the special editions.
Of course, with me, paid DLC has been, is, and always will be total BS. I bought your game, stop trying to nickel and dime me to death.
Re: Nintendo Outlines Pricing and Details for DLC in Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
Have the LE version preordered, but NO WAY in heck am I buying this overpriced DLC that should have been in the game in the first place. BS Nintendo, BS.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Breaks Series Records With US Launch Sales
@Deanster101 I know you are getting harassed for not recognizing all the 3rd party porting going on and indy devs, but you are correct in that AAA 3rd parties haven't really backed the console yet, with a few exceptions... of ports.... beyong Bomberman, but come on, thats a 20 years old PC port up ressed.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Breaks Series Records With US Launch Sales
Mind blowing. Switch owners just sent a clear message to Nintendo, "Stop making new games and just rebox the old ones!'
When I get Switch in 2018, when hopefully there will be some exclusive games for it, this will be bought again unless I find it for like $10, which isn't going to happen obviously.
Re: Tekken Producer Katsuhiro Harada Too Busy To Study Switch Hardware For Possible Port
@RickRau5 The WiiU let us know exactly how many core Nintendo fans are left worldwide - about 10-11 million. So they haven't appealed to anyone new in the video gaming market until they surpass WiiU sales.
So no, right now there are no guarantees they will get 3rd party support.
If you can't sell 5 million systems with Breath of the Wild, you might as well file for bankruptcy. Its Zelda for crying out loud.
Re: Tekken Producer Katsuhiro Harada Too Busy To Study Switch Hardware For Possible Port
No COD, no Tekken.... yeah, Switch isn't exactly pulling in the important third party games so far. Nintendo is going to need to get sales well over $20 million in a hurry. Like, in the next 3 months. But that would involve actually making and selling more systems, and Nintendo is not a fan of selling their popular items.
Re: Nintendo Download: 27th April (North America)
Nothing to major this week beyond Puyo Puyo Tetris, but Switch still needs that big exclusive game.
Re: Review: Sky Force Anniversary (Wii U eShop)
Might pick this up. Took a month to review? Yeesh guys.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes
@CosmicLight "Nintendo has really poor communication. " This is your most accurate statement.
Telling me it's "an assembly line" problem is total BS. If something sells, you make more. That's simple business practice.
The Switch is going to get a revision. I'm going to wait for that. So I guess I hope they reach whatever number they need to so they can start work on that revision, but right now they are just releasing an outdated product that most AAA publishers still haven't jumped on or shown interest in.
But to be honest, if Nintendo did say, ""Hey guys we never cared about the classic, it was all to take advantage of you guys to have us on your mind."" I'd actually appreciate the honesty for once from them. They now lie as much if not more than most video game companies.
Re: Rumour: SNES Classic Mini Coming Later This Year
If true, have to wonder the following:
1) Did Nintendo stop NES Mini production because it was getting ready to surpass Switch sales?
2) Have Switch sales hit a saturation point and Nintendo feels the SNES Mini will give them an actual thing to sell this holiday?
3) Now that Nintendo saw NES Mini can sell for $200 online, will they make the starting price for the SNES Mini at $250+
4) Will Nintendo even bother to make like 10,000 SNES Minis, or just release a few dozen each week just to sit back and enjoy the outrage?
5) What first party games will Nintendo leave off the SNES Mini and the reason will be some lazy excuse?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes
@MoonKnight7 As noted by all of your hearts for your comment, you hit the nail on the head. Anyone who disagreed with you is simply part of the Nintendo Defense Force that would blindly agree with any Nintendo decision, even if they did something crazy like decide Mario's new name is SLjslkjlJSFLKJDSLKFj. They'd justify it, somehow....
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes
@CosmicLight There are lot of people out there that just wanted to buy a NES Mini for $60 for their husbands that used to play video games. They have no desire to spend $300 on a Switch + the $300 in controllers + $60 each for the 5-10 retail games that will be released each year.
It was a 1-time, $60- purchase. The demographic for Switch and NES Mini are the not as overlapping as Nintendo wants to believe. They are missing out on money, something they've struggled to make tons of since the Wii/DS days.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes
You guys are being too kind. They screwed this up from the start. They should have taken preorders to see the demand. They should have found ways to restock. They should not have discontinued before even coming close to saturation point.
All it says to me is don't buy a Switch because the people currently in charge of Nintendo don't know how to be successful in the video games market anymore.
Re: Nintendo Has Discontinued The NES Classic Edition in North America
@Nintenerdguy I will make the time to play all 30 games. I own oer 600 games, about 500 of them on NIntendo systems. I haven't played them, I probably never will. But NES games are short, and at the least I can play each for like 30 min, and that would be worthwhile in my mind. And if my kids like them, they can play whatever and not fail miserably trying to switch a NES cart and hurting something.
Re: Nintendo Has Discontinued The NES Classic Edition in North America
@Syrek24 I own some of the games on the NES Mini for the original NES. Not shockingly, the games that used to save don't really anymore. With 2 or 3 exceptions, I have not rebought any NES games on VC b/c I already bought them in the past. And $5 per game is outrageous. $2 per game and with a system that is only supposed to do 1 thing, play NES games, is ideal in my mind.
I want one to use it. I've never seen one to be able to buy it. I cannot be the only one who feels this way. I want to share these games with my kids
But if Nintendo insists I try and teach my young children how to play NES game with far more complicated controllers than the NES and probably discourage them, then I guess smart on them...
Re: Nintendo Has Discontinued The NES Classic Edition in North America
Let's reenact how this went down at Nintendo HQ...
Nintendo Exec #1: How's that NES Mini selling in the US?
N Exec #2: Selling like hot cakes sir. Can't keep it on the shelves!
N Exec #1: Wait, so it's not the shelves at all times to advertise our products like the WiiU was?
N Exec #2: Well... I guess not, because people are buying it!
N Exec #1: This is no good. Discontinue it!
N Exec #2: Hmm... I see your point. We don't want to spend money on marketing, so having undesirable products sit on the shelves is much more effective to getting our name out there!
N Exec #3: Wait you two, I don't think that's how it works. Don't we want to make money?
Everyone Else in the Room: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.... make money? With games? Why would we want to do that when we can sell our dumb fans amiibo that do nothing in the 5 games we release for our systems each year?
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Re: Nintendo Has Discontinued The NES Classic Edition in North America
@Nintenerdguy EXACTLY. I mean why should we all buy a $60 item that has 30 items when we could go on the Virtual console and use that same $60 to buy 12 NES games! (#Sarcasm cause you probably don't realize NES Mini is a better deal)
Re: My Nintendo Gets a Fresh Batch of Rewards
@Arehexes First comment and you made it eggstremly hard to top. I commend you good sir!
Seriously though Nintendo, just stop trying. Your rewards system sucks and you don't seem to care.
Re: Monster Hunter Stories is Coming to the West
I'll take it, best news from the Direct as best as I can tell.