E3 is now finished, as thousands of weary attendees head home and we get back to normal life. Nintendo had a presence to varying degrees across most of the week, from limited roles in the early EA and Bethesda blow-outs, to two major Switch reveals during Ubisoft's show and then, of course, three full days in which we had the Nintendo Spotlight, Treehouse and multiple Invitational events.
In general Nintendo seemed to have a strong show, scoring well in social media analysis, and there was certainly positivity among the Nintendo Life community at the end of day one. Day two was dominated by two Invitational events, arguably, while day three was mostly repeated demonstrations in a shorter session from the Treehouse team. Our feeling is that after a strong day one Nintendo lost a little steam, but some may feel that's a harsh outlook.
In any case, we want to know what you thought of Nintendo's E3. Did it earn high marks, squeeze a passing grade or pick up an unfortunate fail? Let us know in the polls and comments below.
Which of these was your favourite Nintendo segment / moment at E3 2017? (4,327 votes)
The new trailer for Skyrim on Switch in the Bethesda conference3%
The unveiling of Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle by Ubisoft13%
Ubisoft's unveiling of Starlink: Battle for Atlas for Switch1%
The Nintendo Spotlight broadcast67%
Nintendo Treehouse on day one9%
The Splatoon 2 World Inkling Invitational3%
Nintendo Treehouse on day two0.7%
The Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational1%
The ARMS Invitational1%
Nintendo Treehouse on day three0.6%
What were your favourite Nintendo-related reveals at E3 2017? (Choose up to 3) (12,403 votes)
Details on FIFA 18 for Switch0.8%
New trailer and details for Skyrim on Switch2%
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle9%
Starlink: Battle for Atlas0.8%
Super Mario Odyssey trailer and release date23%
Metroid Prime 420%
Yoshi coming to Switch in 20183%
Kirby coming to Switch in 20184%
New footage of Fire Emblem Warriors on Switch1%
A new 'core' Pokemon RPG in development for Switch9%
New footage of Xenoblade Chronicles 25%
Expansion Pass details for The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild3%
Metroid: Samus Returns11%
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions2%
New amiibo for Super Mario, Metroid and Fire Emblem Warriors1%
The new Sonic Forces Switch trailer0.8%
Rocket League for the Nintendo Switch4%
Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido0.3%
Free DLC / Update plans for ARMS0.8%
What are your overall feelings on Nintendo's E3? (4,427 votes)
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Good E3. Lots still MIA. but I'm sure we'll hear about it soon. They're really going with the one first party title per moth stuff in a big way which will avoid droughts ... for now.
Third parties-wise, however, pretty attrocious. The fact that Nintendo themselves are publishing Skyrim - rather than Bethesda - is pretty telling how much a risk factor Switch seems to be even for the big publishers. Hopefully when sales are maintained consistently the big ones will be on board.
All events had good things within them, and it's a very close call between the Treehouse Day 1 and Splatoon Invitational for me [though chose the former in the poll]. It's definitely been a good few days with all the reveals and showcases.
Their Presentation was my favorite portion, although I enjoyed the Treehouse coverage. The Presentation nailed all of the right notes. It showed off some stuff for games coming this year (along with the Odyssey release date), it revealed several new games we will be playing next year, and the Prime 4 and Pokemon announcements for further out was amazing. It made me excited for the rest of 2017, 2018, and possibly beyond with the Pokemon and Prime 4 mentions. In short, it got me excited to be a Switch owner now, and confident I will still be excited a year from now.
I also liked that the Treehouse staff showed up during "Live from E3" segments from various video game websites.
Still really disappointed that there was nothing at all about the Nindies we're already expecting. Would have been nice to have a sizzle reel of Nindies we don't know about yet, as well. Still waiting on so many release dates - looks like Stardew Valley has been put back (it's not saying "Summer 2017" anymore, just "2017"), Rime got put back months ago and we still don't have a date, no dates for Ittle Dew 2 or Flipping Death or Yooka-Laylee (also delayed already).
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for all the Metroid and Mario fans out there, and some of what was shown was amazing and new, but they showed a LOT of Metroid, Mario, ARMS and Splatoon 2 and nothing for the games I'm waiting for.
I wouldn't call it a home run, but I think it was a solid effort all around, and exactly what Nintendo needed to solidify confidence in the Switch's future, both this year and long term.
If nothing else, Super Mario Odyssey looks like the best thing ever. Could easily be a contender for best Nintendo game of the year, which is wild, considering we also got the stellar Breath of the Wild in March.
It was the year Nintendo woke back up! Mario looks great in all his guises , Metroid twice, Audrey, Yoshi, rocket league, Audrey. It hit the right notes and on 3DS and Switch, the next few years look like they are going to be fabulous!!
Overall I really enjoyed E3! I feel like it was a step up from last year even if the spotlight was slightly weird in some ways. The last day of the treehouse was slightly disappointing content wise but the team kept things interesting!
@super08mario Yeah, I'm not an amiibo collector but that pretty much guaranteed that I have to get it along with the squishy Metroid. Personally, this cover is my all-time favourite. It's simple and yet so epic at the same time.
I'm not a fan of the Treehouse at all if I'm honest, 1 day is enough. They just end up going over the much of the same games again by the 2nd and 3rd days . I always look forward to E3 but I only care about reveals, first looks and announcements. The live chat on NL is always a good laugh though.
Still disappointed that XX wasn't revealed, or didn't even get any gampeplay of Stories...World seems ok at the moment, though...and i want the metroid amiibo. lol
As a big fan of the 3DS I was pleasantly surprised by games like Samus Returns and M&L: Super Star Saga + BM. This is going to be an awesome year for 3DS.
On the downside, I was disappointed that we did not get any further clarification on Pokémon: Ultra Sun and Moon and not even whiff of the new Kirby multiplayer game for 3DS. perhaps Nintendo wanted to hold some stuff back for a Direct in early fall.
This was a fantastic E3. Nintendo nailed it! Super Mario Odyssey looks like an absolute masterpiece, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is intriguing, Metroid Prime 4 IS happening, and I was pleasantly surprised by the Metroid: Samus Returns reveal.
Add in some excellent showcases by Bethesda and Ubisoft (especially on the Nintendo fronts), and I'm a pleased gamer.
Edit: The only thing that I felt was missing was some Ultra Sun/Moon coverage, but that's more in Game Freak/The Pokemon Company's court.
Best E3 I've seen from them in years, even better than 2014. They announced virtually all of the games I would've possibly wanted and had plenty of surprises. At this point I'm not even sure what else I want from Nintendo and we're just getting started, this gen is going to be killer.
Its was pretty decent, just nothing much unexpected bar a few. New Kirby, new Yoshi, new Mario crossover; whilst I acknowledge Arms as a new IP maybe another thing fresh would have been nice. Or at least have these game more different than what was previously released.
Also all the really meaty anouncements during the spotlight were games where we saw nothing about them; then again this seems to be Nintendo's policy recently or only telling us about stuff thats approx a year tops from release.
A few more post spotlight announcements would have been nice but I was cool woth the 2 they did.
I thought overall it certainly wasn't great. Average at best. Dropping Metroid 4 and Pokémon RPG announcements with absolutely no footage was a desperate attempt to elevate it. They won't be released for a long time, certainly no sooner than 2019 for MP4. I thought people said Nintendo don't do those way off in the distance game announcements? 3rd party support was pitiful.
Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and the new Yoshi game were good. Nintendo had very little content, they kept repeating it during the Treehouse presentations each day.
It was alright, but we knew about a lot of things beforehand and most of the surprises are coming next year. However, the games they showed looked FANTASTIC; can't wait for Kirby and Metroid!
It was a fantastic E3. I chose "good just not 'amazing'" for my result simply because the actual presentation value wasn't done in a hype generating way, and the nature of the first year of Switch where we had a live show in January that announced most of the years games takes some E3 specific thunder and mutes it a bit. But the actual CONTENT, all the games coming etc, whether known before or not, are truly excellent.
The rest of the questions "pick only one" "pick up to 3" that's just not fair. There's way more than those limits I would have to check off if I were honest. I had to skew my results away from things I knew would get more votes so the other things I hold equally great don't get diluted by those.
Absolutely the best E3 Nintendo's had for quite a long time if you ask me. Two new Metroids, amazing Mario Odyssey trailer and soon release date, new Kirby and Yoshi games, the announcement of a Pokémon rpg for Switch, Xenoblade 2 Gameplay and so much more!
The only things I personally missed was UltraSun/UltraMoon footage on Treehouse Live. Some Nindies would have been awesome as well but I suppose they are not noteworthy enough to be mentioned on the show floor.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE C'mon man, you even got an announcement for WiiU DLC and a new WiiU game (Just Dance.) Two Metroids, a Mario SRPG leading a third party show, and XC2 confirmed for this year, and freaking Pokemon confirmed for Switch. Even mighty WiiU never had any hope of that happening even in the best times during pre-launch. How can that not be at WORST "above average" even through the most pessimistic lens you can throw at it?
It's what I expected in terms of total announcements. I would have liked to hear about other games, but I think they had altogether strong games, if few. NO VC was disappointing but expected, I just don't know WHY Nintendo didn't have any 3rd party or indie sizzle reel for Switch, it would have been nice to see the games coming out this year, and I left feeling like there wasn't much coming, which isn't entirely true, but certainly felt that way from what they presented.
There is a huge new game for me to play pretty much every month the rest of this year: June: RPG Maker Fes, July: Splatoon 2, August: Mario+Rabbids, September: Samus Returns, October: Mario Odyssey, November: Skyrim?? Great year to be a Nintendo fan...
It was a good E3 for Nintendo first party games, but I was disappointing for the lack of third party AAA games. I know there were some third party games, but not the big ones, like Monster Hunter World or AC Origins.
Oh if I had to pick nits, I would say Treehouse kind of underdelivered. Day 1 was great, but Day 2 and Day 3 spent too much time just covering the same games they covered on Day 1 a second, even third time. And too much time was spent on filler tournaments instead of showing games. They were a fun watch, but I'm not sure why they devoted as much time to repeating segments of the same games when there actually IS a lot more content coming to Switch, let alone 3DS, they didn't showcase at all. No Skyrim demos, no SMT previews, no Sonic Mania, no Sonic Forces, Shantae, Sine Mora, Battle Crashers, Extella, and a whole host of things they showed in the April Direct that I thought we'd get to see more of during Treehouse, plus the custom version of FIFA (not my thing but it would have been interesting to see it on Switch.) Plus a bunch more 3DS stuff. It was a little wasted opportunity of numerous hours spent in the same titles when a faster paced segment showcasing more upcoming games, IMO would have made am ore amazing presentation. It's the rare case where Nintendo has TONNS more games coming than they actually showcased.
@NEStalgia Wii U had Fifa, Madden, Mass effect, Need for speed. Switch Has Fifa 18. Rabbids only exclusive 3rd party as it was a joint venture. Other than the first party games you have mentioned there wasn't much to tempt a none Nintendo fan.
The presentation and Tree House left me both satisfied and excited for more. This is the balance that all developers/publishers should strive to achieve.
The highlights for me were the announcement of a Pokemon RPG for Switch (but not getting my hopes too high just in case there), confirmation of Metroid Prime 4, and Mario Odyssey, which is looking more and more interesting.
That said, I'm a bit disappointed that the Metroid II remake is for 3ds. I mean I kind of get it, but at the same time, I find the Switch to be just far better and more comfortable to play things on in general. I'm personally kind of over the 3DS.
Nintendo did a very good job this year. I can't say that it was their best presentation, but certainly their best since 2014 (not that 2015 and 2016 were high bars to cross, but still).
It's funny that people criticize Nintendo for showing a Metroid Prime 4 logo so early, but I personally see why they did. Federation Force went so poorly, both commercially and critically, that this was their way of saying they're sorry. Any logical person would understand that it is well off in the distance, probably 2019 at the earliest. And I'm not upset that Retro isn't involved. I don't think it is fair that they need to be stuck with the Metroid franchise forever, and I think we can let someone else have a shot at it. I'm sure Retro has their own experiments they want to try. But hey, surprise announcement for Samus Returns! That's just icing on the cake, and I'm excited for that.
Quite frankly, I'm pretty pleased with what was announced, and after a slow start, the Switch seems to be taking a good form so far. One area they are still severely lacking is third party, but that's nothing new with Nintendo of course, but at least Ubisoft is putting effort into it. And as most of everyone has already expressed, I'm am deeply concerned about Monster Hunter; I just don't understand the complete turn around at all.
I really kind of hope that the Kirby and Yoshi games aren't just working titles. It would be kind of nice to just reboot the titles and simply title them after the character. If it does well, then name it Kirby 2 and Yoshi 2 respectively. It would be pretty damn cool if the next Zelda was simply titled "The Legend of Zelda" and was a complete remake of the original NES game but with Breath of the Wild's engine.
Also, Audrey's somewhat more than slight sociopathic bent was revealed in more detail.....that's entertaining on its own.
@Mykcir MH:U doesn't surprise me given the seemingly very reliable rumors highlighting MH:U exists at all by means of Sony paying Capcom to explicitly NOT put it on Nintendo. It exists precisely for the purpose of excluding Nintendo.
I'm a little more surprised about AC:O. I thought that had a chance given past AC history (however badly selling) on Nintendo (including a cancelled 3DS AC.) I suspect the big collab on Rabbids + Mario was kind of an either: or. They could either port one of their multiplats OR work on an exclusive game but wouldn't spend on both. The exclusive is actually a much more high-risk proposition for a publisher, so they actually took the very optimistic path with Nintendo more than a relatively cheap AC port if so.
@dangermouseuk78 WiiU had ports of prior generation games, late to the party and overpriced. That wasn't exactly tempting non-Nintendo fans any more than not having them at all. The problem was those games didn't really tempt Nintendo fans either In a broad sense it ticked off all the boxes of "big M rated thid party blockbusters" but when you drill down into what blockbusters they were, fans of other platforms already played them (or could play them on a more powerful system, or could play them cheaper), and fans of no-platform already rejected those games on the other platforms. So they only really aimed to appeal to Nintendo fans that missed out on them on other platforms. And the sales showed they didn't really appeal there either. The Ubi exclusive is smart. If 3rd parties have the impression only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo, then why not make Nintendo games to sell there? A 4th box for their multiplats prove to just shift their existing customers around rather than acquire new ones. But making different games for Nintendo opens a whole different market to diversify into (if they sell.) If Rabbids does well, you might see "collaborative 2nd party games with 3rd party studios" become the new norm with Nintendo "3rd party" efforts.
Was leaving my Switch Purchase till after E3, and as much as i liked Mario and the Rabbids game i was hoping to see more 3rd party than we got so still not convinced..
@Anti-Matter "When is Animal Crossing for Switch ?! And also when is Animal Crossing for Mobile ?"
Those are in fact the same question Reggie said in an interview that the strategy of using mobile apps for marketing real games is working really well and highlighted that FE:H is really boosting interest in Echoes and Warriors (and presumably they're taking that to FE Switch.)
Thus, the purpose of AC:Mobile is to build marketing and interest in AC Switch. So I'd guess AC Switch will be announced some months after AC Mobile is released.
@dangermouseuk78 Yeah, I don't think 3rd party in the XBox sense will ever happen, and Nintendo has more or less directly said they're not interested in doing that. I think as the console ages more third parties will show up, at least with older ports given Switches continuing success so far. Remember the games you saw THIS E3 started development 3+ years ago....back when WiiU was still the future of Nintendo and Switch did not exist. That's one of the reasons a new console has bland libraries. It takes time to catch up. N's really having a BANNER 1st year of a console, even without the WiiU ports, though. I can't think of a console from any company with so many "big" games in year 1 since maybe the PS2.
Mario Odyssey was the game of the show for me but I don't get excited about a game title being shown in the presentation for less then 5 seconds or a director saying something is being worked on. Both games I'm referring to are huge games. In fact, both may turn out to be system sellers when it's all said and done. But ultimately I can't get pumped up for the way they chose to announce both games. Those games could be 2 years away yet and we know nothing! I would rather they show the two games next year through a trailer then the way they did it this year. Show me games I can play in 2017 or 2018, or at the very least show me a teaser other then the game title. I feel that Nintendo had to do that because the rest of 2017 & 2018 looks bleak outside of Mario. They want everyone to know that they're working on big games for the Switch.....but we already know that!
If Nintendo can keep up this stream of one big game a month until well into 2018, which it looks like they might, there will be enough games early on to tempt people to buy a Switch which will create the momentum needed to drive third parties over which will mean Nintendo doesn't have to work so hard. Or that's what I'm hoping.
@Jacob1092 Really? What did they show you of MP4 that was so good? A logo? That game is years away. I'm not going to get excited about something I know practically nothing about. It's a wait similar to Zelda: BOTW all over again. That was torture.
I've said it numerous times before that I wanted the next Metroid to be in 3rd person. Metroid Prime while great, isn't a true Metroid game in my opinion. Samus moves like a tank, isn't agile and many of her moves are either nerfed or aren't there.
Edit: Also, Nintendo doesn't treat the Metroid franchise with the respect it deserves. It's 7 years since the last 3D game, Other M. It's a decade since the last Prime game. It's 13 years since the last 2D game and this is a remake(of Return of Samus) like the last 2D game was, Zero Mission.
Not just that but the new 2D game is made by some lowly B rate studio from Spain. MP4 is being made by some new developers, we've no idea who they are. Imagine Zelda or Mario being treated like that where you don't get a game for more than a console generation or being fobbed off to B rate studios. It wouldn't happen.
I guess I'm only really interested in Starlink, Pokemon announced for Switch next year and Kirby on Switch next year. Literally everything else went over my head.
I've already said it before - I think Nintendo's E3 was 'okay' and that it could have been better. But being passable can still mean 'successful' so I'm not disappointed. If anything, this E3 just showed me I have stuff to look forward to next year, right after all the stuff due for this year has found its legs on my Switch. And two of the things coming next year that I'm looking forward to are relatively big hitters - so that's good.
To summarise, it could have been better, (a mention of DQ10 would have been a major highlight for me) but I literally have nothing else to complain about - so I won't.
I'm most looking forward to:
Splatoon 2
Sonic Mania
Sonic Forces
Super Mario Odyssey
Kirby Switch
Starlink Battle for Atlas
LOZ BoTW DLC
Harvest Moon Light of Hope
Shantae Risky's Revenge
Pokemon Switch
Metroid Prime 4
Nintendo did solid, but mostly because everyone else fell flat. Doesn't change what Nintendo showed off was actually pretty good. I was just pleased that XC2 looked pretty great
Mario Odyssey looks incredible, Metroid 4, Yoshi, Kirby, Rocket League, Harvest Moon AND a Pokemon game in the works?!? Plus Splatoon 2, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Mario And the Rabbids looking great. I think they absolutely nailed it.
I voted for "Good, not amazing" simply because I look forward to E3 for new reveals and most of this year's Nintendo E3 was about games we already knew about. ARMS, Splatoon 2, and Odyssey all look fantastic and are Day One buys for me but I already knew they were coming. Rabbids was a fantastic reveal and instantly went from cringe-inducing to Day One buy for me as soon as I saw the gameplay reveal. But I needed more actual reveals to elevate this E3 to amazing for me. MP4 gameplay would have been amazing. Confirming BG&E2 for Switch would have been amazing. Pokemon footage for Switch would have been amazing. Monster Hunter XX or World for Switch would have been amazing. In other words, I loved all of the announcements of Nintendo's E3 and they are definitely trending in the right direction, but I still think it could have been more.
I love seeing the overall approval in the poll here. Typically, Nintendo fans of the past 5-6 years have been pessimistic at best and kicking & screaming at their worst. This is a nice change 😀
After E3 I decided today is the day for a little Father's Day treat to myself and I'd buy a Switch. (My wife has one, but I want to be able to save games on my own Switch.)
Local shops are sold out. Not local shops are sold out. Amazon UK had no stock until July 10.
Best I've felt about Nintendo in awhile after that. Once they give us a release date on that Pokemon Switch title that is clearly just starting production, I'll become a Switch owner then.
Oh and Monster Hunter World = Best of E3. Hands down. Sad we won't see it until mid to late 2018 I assume for the system that matters, PC.
Nintendo had a great E3 that for me started with their main broadcast. I am a little bummed they didn't announce the SNES mini or Smash Bros for Switch, but I was very impressed with games I didn't expect to be impressed with. I can see buying 80-90% of what was shown.
It was a little disappointing. We didn't get any gameplay for the two big surprises: Pokemon Switch and Metroid Prime 4. Most of the other games shown were ones we already knew about.
Nintendo did just about everything that they could of done, and I'm happy about them. What the presentation needed was a demonstration of Sonic Forces, a look at Dragon Quest X & XI, and an indie sizzle reel. Basically everything Nintendo wasn't directly involved in.
For me Ubisoft won E3 followed by Sony, Microsoft, Ninty then Bethesda, EA . Can't stand platformers so mario, Kirby, Yoshi has no chance with me. Prime and pokemon: no footage. Only xeno stood out for me. What wasn't announced for release was the biggest news for switch, Monster Hunter Worlds
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Normally a logo wouldn't impress me for a game. But it's been so long, just knowing it's going to be a thing, for certain, EVER is a big deal for most folks.
I'm with you though, I dislike 1st person Metroid compared to 3rd person/2D. I like Prime but it's its own thing, not really "Metroid" to my tastes. Gotta' remember though, a lot of these folks don't have the same fondness for the old school games and started in the N64/GCN era. It's different for them. I'm excited, sure, but I'm waaay more excited for Samus Returns, even if it's on 3DS. If I didn't have a 3DS (or three) around I'd be buying one for that game.
@NintySnesMan I agree Ubi won, but half of that was Miyamoto being up there with Yves, and then BG&E2. Without that (and AC) it was a collection of generic-y persistent open world stuff.
But they still won.
I'd put N over Sony, only because they had more new reveals, even if it's just a logo. Same trick sony won with last 2 years.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "Samus moves like a tank" in Metroid Prime?
Were you playing the GameCube or Wii version? Because the latter, using motion controls, is very fluid (especially when you set them to "advanced" in the options). As for it not being a "true" Metroid game, I couldn't disagree more. You can't get more Metroidy than Metroid Prime; it absolutely nails the atmosphere and gameplay.
I agree with everything else you said though. Oh, apart from a third-person Metroid. I don't know why... I just don't think it would work.
Mario and two Metroids are great.... although MP4 wasn't really at E3. I'm guessing 2019. Might get Rabbids if it's really good. That's probably all I'm interested in that Nintendo showed.
Pretty fun time overall. I liked what I saw of nearly every new game they showed (except Kirby and Mario + Rabbids. Everything else was dandy), and I'm happy to know Pokemon and Metroid Prime 4 are in our futures.
No Switch Animal Crossing news (or even at least more about that mobile thing), no Switch Virtual Console details, and no [insert any other franchise/service/accessory here] announcements . . . and yet, it was still an excellent showing for Nintendo this year.
Granted, with the Switch in my grubby hands, it's the first time I've had the newest hardware right before an E3 week since the Wii, so I may be a little too excited and biased at the moment to be objective, but I don't care . . . .
I'm pumped for Mario Odyssey and Metroid Prime 4, the "esports" style showcases of Pokken/ARMS/Splatoon2 were intense (at least to me, I've never really watched esports before), and even some of the 3DS stuff looked cool (and I don't even have a 3DS, still rocking the DS Lite, lol).
It does really feel like the Switch was launched about a year too early, but Nintendo is certainly making the most of what the have to work with this year (kind of like what they do with their hardware). With the seeds they've planted this year (Core Pokemon RPG? That better mean what I think it means), here's hoping they just knock it out of the park next year.
A big and (surprisingly good) reveal for this year, footage of two for next year, promise of two big titles at a misc. date.
Plenty of stuff missing (VC, media apps, Indies) but overall more evidence that Nintendo have a clear direction and a plan. And with so many first-party games, a very strong first year (or 10 months).
@Monkey_Balls I've played them all. In Prime, she doesn't either have or it's lame; speed booster, wall jumping, space jump, screw attack. It's not as immersive in 1st person, you can't see her or her suit very often. Also, there's more moves missing when not played in 2D, like using the grapple beam to sin around and land on top of platforms. That's another thing that's nerfed in Prime. It's extremely basic.
A 3rd person Metroid can be done, Other M laid a good foundation. Yes, that made mistakes but they were things like the pixel hunts, not using the nunchuk and the story was stupid in parts. But Samus was nimble, agile and had her full arsenal of moves. Other M could be improved upon. And I think a 1st person view definitely has a function within a 3rd person game.
The Stirling squid was my highlight, what a trophy! I feel they did not show much new stuff but they covered that well with esports events and extended treehouse.
I think Nintendo did very well. The games I'm looking forward to are Mario Odyssey, Mario+Rabbids, Xenoblade, Metroid 3DS, and for other consoles Monster Hunter World.
In regards to Metroid Prime 4, I am happy that it was announced but I can't honestly get hyped about it because I know Nintendo is going to be showing that game off for the next possibly two E3s.
Last thing, I had a great time watching E3 week with you guys. Everybody here is awesome. The Nlife team is the best. The pun game is strong over here. Anyway keep up the good work you guys.
The DLC Pack 1 for BOTW contains mostly stuff that should have been in the game already and should be free. The costumes offer nothing over what's already in the game except for the Korok mask. I've already found all 900 seeds, so it's too late, the same goes for the Traveller's Pendant. I've completed everything in the game, played over 400 hours. I'm not going doing Hero's Mode. Stuff like that and the Trials of the Sword were free in Twilight Princess.
I want to see what's in the second pack before I buy it. I paid €45 for the Wii U version of the game. Most of this stuff is lame, like the Switch T-shirt, the treasure chests, Tingle costume(gimp suit). You're really paying for DLC Pack 2. So €20 more for what I'm sure will be a tiny fraction of added content compared to the main game.
I think the library for a first year launch and the first Holiday sales coming up is very solid now. It's especially true for anyone who never had a Wii U but is interested in the Switch, but with Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey and the promise of more, even the Wii U owners have big games to win them over.
The presentation itself was pretty good, overall. I'm especially glad that so much gameplay footage with treehouse was available because I don't know what it is... trailers for some games aren't doing them justice.
Mario + Rabbids, Yoshi and Metroid Samus Returns have trailers that make them look less than great, where extended footage of just regular gameplay serves the games better.
Lack of online services and VC plans hurt a bit, and nothing concrete from DLC 2 for Zelda BOTW was... actually weird. Guess they are saving up for after DLC 1 launches?
it was good to very good not quite reaching great. Hoping "Switch is great for 3rd parties" doesn't turn into "The DS is the ultimate control scheme for FPS" (of which there are still like... none). We gotta at least get Project Mirai onto the switch somehow right? Would have liked VC info, nobody wants to lug around three consoles and portables worth of games when they can do it with one.
The good: the Kirbs, Unlike some games where I get tired of how formulaic they are, this never happens with Kirby. Metroid II remake (people whining about Metroid better buy this so we can get an actual honest to god new 2D metroid down the line) is a purchase. Mario Odyssey looked spectacular. I'm almost ready to buy a Switch for it, just need a little more push (and having played the ARMS testpunch, good god it's not that).
I wonder if those extremely satisfied fit into one or both of these groups:
A. Own a Switch AND a PS4/XBox One B. Are in the Pokémon generation
Not desperaging either descriptor but I wonder if those of us who are not as thrilled are:
A. One console kind of people B. Older than the Pokémon generation - so like 35+
If I had a PS4 and a Switch and was therefore not missing out on any AAA titles I would be really happy with the presentation. As it is I'm still trying to decide whether to get a Switch or a PS4.
@KirbyTheVampire Not to call you out but I don't understand why people were expecting Smash or AC. This year's lineup is full of games, and we still need first party support that can create hype next year. Smash and AC are the logical solutions for the problem of a second year drought.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE It's interesting that you say Prime (being first-person) wasn't as immersive, because I feel that perspective made it much more immersive than the 2D games. Sure, you can't see Samus, but I felt like I was Samus. Obviously some abilities needed to be removed/nerfed for a first-person perspective, but the abilities we had were still Metroid through and through. Plus... the atmosphere. I thought Super Metroid couldn't be beaten, but once I was actually behind that visor...
Other M: that game is one of the reasons I wouldn't want Metroid to go third-person. Most people hated the story; that was actually my favourite part. The gameplay and atmosphere were lacking for me. Isolation. Tension. Exploration. A sense of wonder and progression. Prime had the lot. Other M had none of those things. It just didn't feel like Metroid.
A third-person Metroid could work, of course - just not using Other M as a foundation. I'm thinking something along the lines of the first Tomb Raider which had great atmosphere, exploration and sense of isolation. However, if it's something like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry, featuring a super-agile, somersaulting Samus ninja-ing her way through enemies (while interspersed with cutscenes showing finishing moves)... Ugh, no thanks.
A Metroid featuring both first and third-person gameplay would be interesting though.
Only disappointments, the whole Monster Hunter Worlds fiasco, Retro Studio's game not being revealed, and a few MIAs that being No More Heroes 3, SMT5, all the DQ games, Octopath, Platinum's game, with those games not showing it would have been nice for a bit more 3rd party games to have been shown. I'm okay with games like Animal Crossing and F-Zero not appearing this year, but they are a must show next years E3.
But even still, I feel Nintendo had and absolutely fantastic E3 this year, had me more excited than anyone else. Looking forward to the rest of the year and onto next year.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE And it feels SO wrong to be able to say that about what's normally the most awkward of all shows!
I'm glad for them. They're in such a bad place right now, and Yves seems like such a likable guy who's really in it for the games. They deserved such a great show.
@Grawlog Well, with two Metroid games coming even bitter Wii U holdouts have to be excited, right? Right?
I agree that there is plenty to look forward to, and there's a question I'd like to ask anyone who thinks there isn't much--how many games do you need? How many can you afford to buy and find time to play? I get wanting to have as many options available as possible, and to have the same options that players on other systems have, but if you've ever read the comments on the weekly download articles, you'd get the impression of people who need a new game or three every week, and I literally don't understand how anyone could have either enough time or enough money for that to be the case. So I think what Nintendo has shown is plenty, and should satisfy everyone here. Not because everyone should like what Nintendo offers, of course, but because if you don't like what Nintendo offers, well then why are you reading a Nintendo fan site?
If Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon Switch had been actual real tangible games, and the Virtual Console had been revealed and the English version of Mother 3 had been announced, it would have earned "Nintendo nailed it, a fantastic effort".
@Nintendoforlife I wasn't expecting it this year, and I certainly didn't expect to see Smash at all, considering we already have ARMS and Pokken. I just thought they might announce Animal Crossing for a 2018 release. I still wasn't that surprised that it wasn't there, though. I figure they'll want to announce it later alongside their AC mobile game or something.
@Aneira As much as I love the Metroid Prime games, had they announced Eternal Darkness 2 but not Metroid Prime 4, it would have improved the Spotlight.
In an unrelated note that I feel like ranting a bit about, I've been hoping for Beyond Good and Evil 2 as long as I've been hoping for Eternal Darkness 2, so I was ecstatic to see it (re)announced, but after seeing what Ancel said his plans were, I'm significantly less enthusiastic than I used to be. It just doesn't sound anything like the first game, and while I won't claim I understand what defines a Beyond Good and Evil game better than Ancel does, I don't see him pursuing what made the original so good in the second. It doesn't mean the second won't be just as good, of course, but my expectations are now just what they are of any game, namely nothing at all, replaced with the generic hope that every game is good, and waiting to see which ones actually prove to be.
Nintendo did good this year. There's no other way to put it. I went in worried zero in too much on one or two games again (a tactic that makes perfect sense now), but no, they knew this was the time to open the flood gates. They had to do two things right, lots of new titles to chew on, and if you must talk about ones we know about, make it so interest is renewed. AND THEY DID BOTH.
As much as I don't like the light third party support, I think their own IP is still the best weapon they have. NOW if only an outlet I frequent actually had the Switch in stock.
My 3 favorite reveals were Mario + Rabbids, Samus Returns, and Sushido.
Mario + Rabbids because the game looks fantastic! A tactical RPG shooter starring Mario and friends is something I never asked for or knew I wanted, but dang it looks great. There's clearly a lot of love that went into it and I'm excited to play it when it releases.
Samus Returns, because Metroid II was one of my very first video games. If you'd told me Nintendo was going to announce an official Metroid II remake I wouldn't have cared, but actually seeing the trailer blew my mind. I've never been a major fan of Metroid but something about that trailer and the emotional connection I have with the original (that I didn't really recognize I had until now) got me more excited and emotional than anything else at this E3. I'm stoked to play it.
Sushido because that was a total surprise out of nowhere, but I love the style of it! I love that no one saw it coming, that it is full of style and color and energy, and that it's a crazy unique puzzle action game. What a crazy combination of ideas, but it all seems to come together super well and I'm excited for it.
Not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting anything spectacular, but sure enough, Nintendo made up for the past three lousy presentations in 25 minutes. Okay so the Robot Chicken sketch in 2014 was freaking hilarious XD
@Shiryu I am really excited about Starlink...can't wait to hear more real details about it...however the Minecraft cross-play and Super Duper Graphics update (which I notice never seems to be mentioned ANYWHERE...but is GREAT news), Rocket League (which I've held off on getting on my PS4 in the hopes it would come to Switch)...the new Skyrim details...XC2 plays and release confirmed for this year...and Kingdom Battle beat out the news of the new IP...for me anyway. But I'm very interested in it!
Nintendo really hit all the right buttons for me this time around. 2 new Metroids in the works, in addition to a remake of one of my absolute favorite games Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga.
Overall I was very pleased. I went in with low expectations and was completely blown away. I've never been this excited for a new Mario game before since Sunshine, so Odyssey will be a day 1 buy for me. I never really gave Metroid or the Prime games a real chance before, but they definitely have my attention now. Wish they would have elaborated more on the new Pokemon title, but that will come in a later direct Im sure, so just have to to be patient. I'm calling a Diamond and Pearl remake right now (and really hope that's the case).
@dkxcalibur Bleak? Really? We have ARMS now...Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Skyrim, Kingdom Battle, Poken DX, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Fate Extalla (sorry if that's spelled wrong), Rocket League, Minecraft graphics upgrade/Realms/cross-system play update (it makes me a little sad inside that no one else ever mentions this...lol), FIFA 18 (hate on it some have, but its still a full fledged FIFA game with all main modes of play), Mario Odyssey, and more (those are just off the top of my head) coming before the end of THIS year. That's only 2017. There is at LEAST one big name game coming every month from now through the end of the year. How anyone can say that's "bleak" I really don't understand. Maybe they aren't all games that fit every person exactly...but that doesn't mean there aren't a ton of games coming out on the Switch for just this year alone. And if you take all those upcoming games (not to mention all the indie games supposed to drop between now and the end of the year) and all the games already released for the Switch up TO this point...Nintendo is having a STELLAR launch year. Easily one of the best first year launch libraries I can think of since PS2.
It was a decent enough E3, however, I felt that the lack of availability of the Switch cast a huge shadow over the event. I mean they are hyping a console that really hasn't been available since its release 3 months ago. I really think Nintendo should have addressed this issue by making some kind of public explanation or apology.
@photon Oh, the Switch has been available. It just generally sells out REALLY fast whenever anywhere gets a shipment in (in most places, I know there are outliers). For example, over at gonintendo I think it was either just before or during E3, they posted something saying that someplace had just announced Switch stock replacements in...and they sold out completely in just 18 minutes. Stock is coming in...slower than I'm sure Nintendo would like...but its just being grabbed up immediately. I didn't get my Switch directly at launch. I picked up one of the Gamestop bundles that came out about a month later...but I'm VERY happy I got it (yes, even with Just Dance...people may hate on it...but with a family or group of friends it can be a lot of fun to bop around to). I feel Nintendo has apologized for the slower than wanted shipments...but I think that's partly also to the greater than expected demand. NO ONE thought the system would be this hot on the market, I personally think...and Nintendo were caught flat-footed on that. That's not exactly their fault.
Was praying for Pokemon and MonHun for the Switch.
I got a soft Yes on the former, and a soft No on the latter.
So the event was a bit of a disappointment for me. But the things that Nintendo and its partners did reveal were all very nice. I'm hoping things continue to pick up!
Picked Odyssey, Prime 4, and Superstar Saga were my favorite reveals. Really looking forward to those titles!
Very good showing by Nintendo this E3. The game I was personally anticipating the most wasn't shown, but I have to overlook that because of the other stuff they did show.
Thought it was a really good E3. Very excited about a few games that were announced, some decent surprises, and what appears to be a solid 1st party lineup for the rest of 2017 and well into 2018. I'm sure there will be more announced too.
I was disappointed by the DLC for BotW, was hoping for something better, but just means I will save $20. I was also hoping for a little more 3rd party support announced, but if the Switch keeps selling like it is, we will get some more 3rd party titles.
Over all I thought it was excellent though and was very happy and the tree house segments are getting a lot more polished and entertaining
I'm not trying to be a downer, but something has been bothering me since E3 started and we saw the games Nintendo was showing off.
I think the first-party line up is wonderful, packed with tons of great games. But then, it's Nintendo we are talking about. Their first-party is without match in the gaming business. But as the Wii U painfully showed us, Nintendo cannot do it all on their own.
What bothers me is the fact that we have yet another Nintendo platform that is not getting third-party games. Where was stuff like Dragon Ball Fighters Z, Monster Hunter World, Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, Assassin's Creed Origins, the list goes on and on.
Your biggest third-party titles are Skyrim which is a six year old game, and Rocket League which other platforms got years ago.
People can think I'm being a hater, but the lack of third-party support is bothering me. Where are the third-party games? We had a list only a few months ago that touted all these third-parties that were supporting the Switch.
And yet, we hardly saw anything on that front. Its still early, but the landscape for third-party looks at barren as it always has since the Nintendo 64.
@Caryslan yeah no Monster Hunter is a big downer for me. I was at least expecting MHXX, but that game is now in limbo for the Switch (and 3DS). Still hoping that Capcom either changes their minds and releases it on a Nintendo console, or announce that they plan to all along and it was all just poorly handled PR.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE lol have the stuff you said really don't matter.it will be a fantastic game as the other 3.besides if you had the knowledge you would know.nintendo don't hand their ip's to just anyone.lol remember thats how the ps1 was born.sony wanted rights to Nintendo's ip's.Nintendo said nope.the cdi games is why they don't lol
I'd still prefer Metroid, but I see no reason why both should not have been announced. Why shouldn't and wouldn't you meet public demand?
I agree regarding Beyond Good & Evil 2. Do we even know if it will come to Switch at all? A year ago it was talked about as a Switch exclusive. It seems like the sure calls has been anything but that these days... Monster Hunter going to PS4 as well while we get a portable port of XX instead with rubbish for graphics.
I was reasonably pleased by Nintendo's efforts at this E3. The news of Metroid Prime 4 and Samus Returns was fantastic and just what I had been hoping to hear for a long time. There's a lot of talk of Metroid Prime 4 being a long time away from release, but is it that unreasonably to expect a holiday 2018 release? Both Kirby and Yoshi look like they aren't far off completion and look as though they both could easily be released in the first half of next year. After that the next announced game is MP4 and they need a big game for the 2018 holiday period.
Nintendo have a really good line-up for Switch this year. They just need to keep the momentum going, which they seem to be doing a great job of at the moment.
The best new game announcement for me was Nicalis' new fighter Blades Strangers, which seems to have slipped under the radar of most gamers by the look of it.
My only disappointment was the fact that they pretty much put all of their eggs in one basket so to speak by revealing most of the good stuff on day one. I kept tuning in on days two and three because I though they might have a few more surprises up there sleeves. All I really got was basically Capcoms non-committal attitude towards a Switch release of Monster Hunter.
I think capcom made a big mistake not having MH-W on the switch. I have not heard one PS4 player give it even a passing mention and it is getting no excitement on any the ps4 forums. In fact the only place I am hearing any mention of it is in the Nintendo space. As this is a west only release it would seem, even if a deal was made to keep it off the switch, it would still be a very poor call if the game does not move copies.
The main reason i picked up a switch was to play Zelda and Skyrim(again), I have 9 games on my switch now and pre-orders for splatoon2 and Mario. Will also get FIFA and rocket league this year. So all told that's not a bad year one collection.
Does not look to be much coming to the PS4 over the next few months so may finally have so time to get though some of my game backlog although Star wars battle front is a day one with split screen to play with my sons.
It is what happens next year that will decide if the switch is a long term success for me. By that point I will have gotten my moneys worth already but is multiplats like me stop buying games it could end up the Wii for Nintendo, Great sales but rapid falling attach rates which is what Nintendo relies on make money. E3 showed me nothing I would be interested in 2018.. Hope we get a bayonetta 1/2 port in 2018
It was decent but not amazing. The highlight was the Odyssey trailer which was incredible. Other than that the next best footage was Ubisoft's Rabbids..
@BarFooToo
Monster hunter world's is also coming out in Japan, but no xbox version, ps4 exclusive over there. In the west it's ps4 xbox and pc. It will sell lots and shift hardware, all MH games do great especially with the core development team working on it, and who knows it might even get a switch release eventually, probably not but you can't count it out
This is a good question. I barely have time to play any games myself, occasionally I'll have a binge here or there or throw in an hour or so some evenings, so maybe 3-4 games a year is enough for me, last year I played through Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD, I also had Star Fox and Bayonetta 2 to tide me over and I've still got Splatoon and recently Tropical Freeze keeping me happy. I don't really need much more than that until I get a Switch.
Some people sound like they use games to fill an empty void in their lives. Some people sound like they also get no joy from games or Nintendo in general. If I derive no joy from a form of entertainment I turn my back on it.
Oh yeah Ubisoft definitely won best CGI at E3, I'll be looking forward to seeing how much they have to strip back their big games when they finally come out. Microsoft had people cheering over water cooling in the Xbox One X....Nintendo had actual games playable. None of that "we spent 3 months working on the pores on Corey's face" nonsense.
@NintySnesMan Top selling PS4 games in Japan only sell in the thousands, As MH is seen as a social game it is unlikely to make much of a dent moving the few million players over from the handheld version. They would need to sell something close to 1.5 copies for every ps4 ever sold in Japan to reach the penetration of the handheld version. This is a play to try and expand the reach of MH to a global audience.
@Captain_Gonru fair point. Last years was pretty amazing and all they had was Zelda. Seeing that game for the first time in depth was a big moment. I think my 'wow' moment this year even though it fleeting, was that Metroid Prime reveal.
As awesome as it is that Metroid Prime 4 exists, I thought Nintendo's E3 overall was somewhat disappointing. The two biggest reveals, MP4 and Pokemon Switch, are so early in development that they couldn't, or just didn't, show anything. We may not get those games until 2019, and we certainly won't get them for over a year. Mario looks awesome, but we already knew that. Xenoblade looks awesome, but we already knew that (it's great that it's coming so soon though). The other announcements were kind of "B" reveals, not big hits. I'm sure they'll be great, and I'll definitely be getting a few of them (Rocket League and Kirby, and maybe the Rabbids game), but I wish there were more of them, especially indies, as well as at least 1 big reveal that we actually got to see. I was also hoping for some news about the Virtual Console, and a new Animal Crossing.
I'll have to say Nintendo nailed it as a whole. Seeing Mario Odyssey running hooked me in. It was one of the best games seen at E3 overall. And Rabbids looks great. The Ubisoft reveal was electric, and that audience lost their marbles. The Spotlight was subdued but drilled what's coming right now. I totally understand Nintendo's plan, and I think if they meet demand, this console may explode later this year. Of note, I'm an xbox one and wii u owner that was convinced the Switch is legit.
Samus returns and Fire Emblem Warriors were the only games to get me really excited. I genuinely liked what Nintendo showed, I just didn't feel that they revealed enough. Still, I'm happier with their reveals than any of the news to come out of the other gaming companies.
We had some nice reveals this E3, but what is great is that Nintendo still has cards to play and it doesn't feel like this is it anymore. So much potential still left even with the Metroid announcements. Didn't feel like that with the Wii U.
im personally happy w/ Ninty E3 as a whole. For me im happy that i got a bunch of games coming this year and next year. But reading some comments its sad some people feel entitled for more or just just want to complain for the sake of complaing about Ninty. Im just happy i have games to play now, XC2 actually releasing this year, Odyssey and of course 2 Metroid games...overall i was also happy with Sony and Microsoft as well...though im not convinced about XB1X but time will tell
@BarFooToo
Hey, MH world's in Japan won't sell like a handheld version but it will be the biggest selling ps4 game, but yeah, overall globally with xbox, pc and ps4 sales combined it will be a huge seller, I expect not just a few hundred thousand sales in Japan but far more than that, probably 1 million issh give or take some lifetime sales and over 2 million combined global , the way I see it, if GTA has sold 350 thousand and still selling in Japan then MH should do just fine
It was a solid presentation, easily the best for me of the big three, but it didn't really reach the part of "amazing". I'll admit, the first party lineup is solid - Odyssey looks fantastic, I'm really excited for FE Warriors, Rabbids looks far better than expected, and Takahashi doesn't dissapoint with XC2. Plus Metroid, nuff said.
But what about third parties? EA, Bethseda and Psyonix are bringing big games too, and Nintendo needs to promote them if they don't want to fail and continue the third party cycle. The responsability here is on Nintendo - they should have showed them in the spotlight, or on the Treehouse. FIFA is realeasing on September and they haven't done anything to push it on Switch players!
Plus, as others said, we missed the Nindies. Its an excellent moment to push games from those developers that have been on board, I'd would loved to hear an update (even if it was a 1 or 2 minutes video) from Playtonic about YL for Switch. A Treehouse Nindie day could have easily replaced day two or day three of Treehouse.
Finally... VC and OS updates. Couldn't they at least tease if they're coming now or next year? Leaving us in the dark is a common Nintendo strategy but one its starting to grow really annoying by now.
I think Nintendo pulled out a fantastic E3. I don't even like metroid and the footage of Samus Returns has me hyped. The simple changes made to the combat mechanics have me wanting to take the Varia Suit for a spin. Mario Rabbids was a pleasant surprise...I went in expecting to HATE it but ended up preordering. I shouldn't be shocked...Nintendo was not going to loan out their mascot and have the game suck. Yoshi and Kirby look great and good feel has done a great job of converting me to a fan of the green dino steed. FE Warriors looks fantastic, lots of enemies on screen and didn't look like a lot of slowdown, the roster might be limited but so was HW at first...I'm still slogging through that on the WiiU so I don't expect FE Warriors to be any different. Been on a warriors kick lately anyway. I was grateful for the prime 4 and pokemon announcements as hopefully they will appease the beggars and rumormongers. Xenoblade 2 looks great (and the voice acting is a little better than the original) but I am still working through the other xenoblade games and I would have been shocked if monolith let us down. Spatoon 2 and Pokken are looking fantastic (If I can put down ARMS) and I'm loving that many of these games are releasing sooner than I expected...my bank account is not happy though. Mario is a return to what made mario lovable for me. I am a 64 and sunshine fan; Galaxy had too many loopy camera changes for me. So I am beyond excited for Odyssey...also why are these games so fricken pretty? Starlink looks cool, especially since the toys aren't required. I have an insane amiibo collection...that is enough. That combined with previous directs means I am averaging 2-4 retail games a month for switch...I'm not mad at all about that. My xbone still gathers dust...
I have to say I was mostly disappointed all around with the rest of e3...Microsoft has done nothing to convince me to stick with xbox and in fact they have successfully pushed me to pick up a OEM copy of windows 10 for my gaming rig. Crackdown 3 looks fantastic as I hoped it would but again it is on Windows 10 too. Sony's heavy hitter for me was Spiderman...Miles Morales seals the deal for a day one purchase. The rest of it was very meh, games I could play but later on down the line. Ubisoft broke my heart. AC:O looks good, I'm catching up with Unity and Syndacate now so I should be ready by the time it launches, but BG&E2 was not what I was expecting...hype level down to zero now. Makes me worried about Shenmue now actually. What happened to steep for switch or the rayman re port? Otherwise it felt like an anemic showing for the other big players. I was hoping for more fighting game news but that is because that is my bread and butter.
From a dev perspective Nintendo had an insane amount of announcements; I know people were hoping every 3rd party game was going to switch but I'm expecting a year of late ports really (hopefully with everything in them but just due to devs needing time to port their games over) so I wasn't bothered. If E3 2018 is just a barren then yeah I'll get on the "where are the 3rd parties?!" train. For now this is still a new system and every new system has library issues..Nintendo is doing a stellar job covering that up though. Which I am hoping is the plan. Nintendo props the system up with heavy hitters (zelda,mk,mario,splatoon even arms and FE Warriors) and promises of more next year and that sells systems...then third parties have breathing room to gather porting teams and get games on the switch. That is what I feel like I'm seeing...time will tell.
@NintySnesMan According to last July Sony investor briefing there are just north of 300,000 active PSN subscriptions in Japan across PS3, PS4 and PSP/Vita. I do not think they will buy 3 copies each. And as I said the silence in PS press and forums is deafening. I don't see the last gen graphics and story light igniting western PS4 or Xbox sales. It may just be the fact that I am traditionally a PlayStation player and its been 20 years since I had heard of MH that it seems that way but time will tell. I see 1 Million global tops
Although we knew about most of the games launching for Switch this year, that doesn't mean this presentation was lacking. Frankly, they showed what they need to, and convinced me of what I believed all along, that Switch is replacing 3DS and Wii U. I've been vocal about wanting Nintendo to consolidate catalogs for handheld and console, and I took the Pokemon for Switch announcement as an admission that Switch is the go-to Nintendo device. For me, that means Switch is the ultimate Nintendo machine, and I love it.
@Nomad Yep! It is on my radar. I loved code of princess anyway so that is enough for me to buy it actually. However the clips they showed looked like a nice 2d-esque fighter so I'm curious (aside from VF and SC I prefer 2d to 3d fighters)
@Ryu_Niiyama Code of Princess and Cave Story characters are a big draw for me. Plus it will be interesting to see how the Smash Bros control type special moves will work out in a 2D fighter like this.
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Can't wait for both Metroids!
I am excited for Mario and will definitely be getting it day 1 but to me it just didn't have that same awe inspiring wonder that BotW did at e3 2016.
Yoshi, Kirby, and two Metroids. Yessss.
Good E3. Lots still MIA. but I'm sure we'll hear about it soon. They're really going with the one first party title per moth stuff in a big way which will avoid droughts ... for now.
Third parties-wise, however, pretty attrocious. The fact that Nintendo themselves are publishing Skyrim - rather than Bethesda - is pretty telling how much a risk factor Switch seems to be even for the big publishers. Hopefully when sales are maintained consistently the big ones will be on board.
All events had good things within them, and it's a very close call between the Treehouse Day 1 and Splatoon Invitational for me [though chose the former in the poll].
It's definitely been a good few days with all the reveals and showcases.
Look at my profile picture. How do you think I feel about this E3?
I can't wait for metroid. Ima go replay metroid 2 in anticipation. I preordered the deluxe edition and the amiibo bundle.
@JHDK I feel the same, but I can easily see myself enjoying Odyssey even more than BotW when it releases.
Ive said it before , but one of my favourite announcements was Rocket league.
Holy crap, I'm the only guy voting for "Starlink: Battle for Atlas"!
@roy130390 the new amiibo has her in that pose. It's great.
Their Presentation was my favorite portion, although I enjoyed the Treehouse coverage. The Presentation nailed all of the right notes. It showed off some stuff for games coming this year (along with the Odyssey release date), it revealed several new games we will be playing next year, and the Prime 4 and Pokemon announcements for further out was amazing. It made me excited for the rest of 2017, 2018, and possibly beyond with the Pokemon and Prime 4 mentions. In short, it got me excited to be a Switch owner now, and confident I will still be excited a year from now.
I also liked that the Treehouse staff showed up during "Live from E3" segments from various video game websites.
i was excited for the new Yoshi, Super mario Odyssey and the new amiibo. Need those wedding ones the most
Very good E3. Disappointed by the lack of Animal Crossing, though.
Still really disappointed that there was nothing at all about the Nindies we're already expecting. Would have been nice to have a sizzle reel of Nindies we don't know about yet, as well. Still waiting on so many release dates - looks like Stardew Valley has been put back (it's not saying "Summer 2017" anymore, just "2017"), Rime got put back months ago and we still don't have a date, no dates for Ittle Dew 2 or Flipping Death or Yooka-Laylee (also delayed already).
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for all the Metroid and Mario fans out there, and some of what was shown was amazing and new, but they showed a LOT of Metroid, Mario, ARMS and Splatoon 2 and nothing for the games I'm waiting for.
I wouldn't call it a home run, but I think it was a solid effort all around, and exactly what Nintendo needed to solidify confidence in the Switch's future, both this year and long term.
If nothing else, Super Mario Odyssey looks like the best thing ever. Could easily be a contender for best Nintendo game of the year, which is wild, considering we also got the stellar Breath of the Wild in March.
@roy130390 You are clearly hoping for Game Boy virtual console on the Switch.
It could've been amazing if they had footage of Prime 4 and Pokemon for the Switch. Otherwise solid showing.
It was the year Nintendo woke back up! Mario looks great in all his guises , Metroid twice, Audrey, Yoshi, rocket league, Audrey. It hit the right notes and on 3DS and Switch, the next few years look like they are going to be fabulous!!
Overall I really enjoyed E3! I feel like it was a step up from last year even if the spotlight was slightly weird in some ways. The last day of the treehouse was slightly disappointing content wise but the team kept things interesting!
@super08mario Yeah, I'm not an amiibo collector but that pretty much guaranteed that I have to get it along with the squishy Metroid. Personally, this cover is my all-time favourite. It's simple and yet so epic at the same time.
I'm not a fan of the Treehouse at all if I'm honest, 1 day is enough. They just end up going over the much of the same games again by the 2nd and 3rd days . I always look forward to E3 but I only care about reveals, first looks and announcements. The live chat on NL is always a good laugh though.
Hats off to Nintendo.
Yeah, it was just "fine".
Liked most of what was shown, so I'm content with that.
Still disappointed that XX wasn't revealed, or didn't even get any gampeplay of Stories...World seems ok at the moment, though...and i want the metroid amiibo. lol
As a big fan of the 3DS I was pleasantly surprised by games like Samus Returns and M&L: Super Star Saga + BM. This is going to be an awesome year for 3DS.
On the downside, I was disappointed that we did not get any further clarification on Pokémon: Ultra Sun and Moon and not even whiff of the new Kirby multiplayer game for 3DS. perhaps Nintendo wanted to hold some stuff back for a Direct in early fall.
This was a fantastic E3. Nintendo nailed it! Super Mario Odyssey looks like an absolute masterpiece, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is intriguing, Metroid Prime 4 IS happening, and I was pleasantly surprised by the Metroid: Samus Returns reveal.
Add in some excellent showcases by Bethesda and Ubisoft (especially on the Nintendo fronts), and I'm a pleased gamer.
Edit: The only thing that I felt was missing was some Ultra Sun/Moon coverage, but that's more in Game Freak/The Pokemon Company's court.
Mariooooooo
I pre-order everything literally. But the stand out for me was Metroid then Mario.
Best E3 I've seen from them in years, even better than 2014. They announced virtually all of the games I would've possibly wanted and had plenty of surprises. At this point I'm not even sure what else I want from Nintendo and we're just getting started, this gen is going to be killer.
Its was pretty decent, just nothing much unexpected bar a few. New Kirby, new Yoshi, new Mario crossover; whilst I acknowledge Arms as a new IP maybe another thing fresh would have been nice. Or at least have these game more different than what was previously released.
Also all the really meaty anouncements during the spotlight were games where we saw nothing about them; then again this seems to be Nintendo's policy recently or only telling us about stuff thats approx a year tops from release.
A few more post spotlight announcements would have been nice but I was cool woth the 2 they did.
Nintendo Won E3!
Loved the new Yoshi game and Mario of course, the Rabids collab was a nice surprise too.
I love 2D metroid and have never gotten near completing the Prime games. Still, the M4 announcement was cool and the internet reaction was great.
I too am a little disappointed that there was no AC mention but I'm sure it will rock up to the system at some point.
All in all and entertaining show, not the best but enjoyable non the less.
I thought overall it certainly wasn't great. Average at best. Dropping Metroid 4 and Pokémon RPG announcements with absolutely no footage was a desperate attempt to elevate it. They won't be released for a long time, certainly no sooner than 2019 for MP4. I thought people said Nintendo don't do those way off in the distance game announcements? 3rd party support was pitiful.
Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and the new Yoshi game were good. Nintendo had very little content, they kept repeating it during the Treehouse presentations each day.
It was alright, but we knew about a lot of things beforehand and most of the surprises are coming next year. However, the games they showed looked FANTASTIC; can't wait for Kirby and Metroid!
It was a fantastic E3. I chose "good just not 'amazing'" for my result simply because the actual presentation value wasn't done in a hype generating way, and the nature of the first year of Switch where we had a live show in January that announced most of the years games takes some E3 specific thunder and mutes it a bit. But the actual CONTENT, all the games coming etc, whether known before or not, are truly excellent.
The rest of the questions "pick only one" "pick up to 3" that's just not fair. There's way more than those limits I would have to check off if I were honest. I had to skew my results away from things I knew would get more votes so the other things I hold equally great don't get diluted by those.
Absolutely the best E3 Nintendo's had for quite a long time if you ask me. Two new Metroids, amazing Mario Odyssey trailer and soon release date, new Kirby and Yoshi games, the announcement of a Pokémon rpg for Switch, Xenoblade 2 Gameplay and so much more!
The only things I personally missed was UltraSun/UltraMoon footage on Treehouse Live. Some Nindies would have been awesome as well but I suppose they are not noteworthy enough to be mentioned on the show floor.
I forgot what was Treehouse and what was Spotlight.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE C'mon man, you even got an announcement for WiiU DLC and a new WiiU game (Just Dance.) Two Metroids, a Mario SRPG leading a third party show, and XC2 confirmed for this year, and freaking Pokemon confirmed for Switch. Even mighty WiiU never had any hope of that happening even in the best times during pre-launch. How can that not be at WORST "above average" even through the most pessimistic lens you can throw at it?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Still way better than the Wii U's first year lineup.
It's what I expected in terms of total announcements. I would have liked to hear about other games, but I think they had altogether strong games, if few. NO VC was disappointing but expected, I just don't know WHY Nintendo didn't have any 3rd party or indie sizzle reel for Switch, it would have been nice to see the games coming out this year, and I left feeling like there wasn't much coming, which isn't entirely true, but certainly felt that way from what they presented.
2D METROID!!!!!!! / 10
There is a huge new game for me to play pretty much every month the rest of this year: June: RPG Maker Fes, July: Splatoon 2, August: Mario+Rabbids, September: Samus Returns, October: Mario Odyssey, November: Skyrim??
Great year to be a Nintendo fan...
It was a good E3 for Nintendo first party games, but I was disappointing for the lack of third party AAA games. I know there were some third party games, but not the big ones, like Monster Hunter World or AC Origins.
Oh if I had to pick nits, I would say Treehouse kind of underdelivered. Day 1 was great, but Day 2 and Day 3 spent too much time just covering the same games they covered on Day 1 a second, even third time. And too much time was spent on filler tournaments instead of showing games. They were a fun watch, but I'm not sure why they devoted as much time to repeating segments of the same games when there actually IS a lot more content coming to Switch, let alone 3DS, they didn't showcase at all. No Skyrim demos, no SMT previews, no Sonic Mania, no Sonic Forces, Shantae, Sine Mora, Battle Crashers, Extella, and a whole host of things they showed in the April Direct that I thought we'd get to see more of during Treehouse, plus the custom version of FIFA (not my thing but it would have been interesting to see it on Switch.) Plus a bunch more 3DS stuff. It was a little wasted opportunity of numerous hours spent in the same titles when a faster paced segment showcasing more upcoming games, IMO would have made am ore amazing presentation. It's the rare case where Nintendo has TONNS more games coming than they actually showcased.
@NEStalgia Wii U had Fifa, Madden, Mass effect, Need for speed. Switch Has Fifa 18. Rabbids only exclusive 3rd party as it was a joint venture. Other than the first party games you have mentioned there wasn't much to tempt a none Nintendo fan.
I'm excited for
1. Mario Oddesy
2. Mario + Rabbits
3. Metroid II Samus Returns
4. Starlink: Battle for Atlas
5. Breath of the Wild DLC
I don't want to think about Metroid Prime 4 yet because it's so far out from release, but I am glad it got announced.
The presentation and Tree House left me both satisfied and excited for more. This is the balance that all developers/publishers should strive to achieve.
The highlights for me were the announcement of a Pokemon RPG for Switch (but not getting my hopes too high just in case there), confirmation of Metroid Prime 4, and Mario Odyssey, which is looking more and more interesting.
That said, I'm a bit disappointed that the Metroid II remake is for 3ds. I mean I kind of get it, but at the same time, I find the Switch to be just far better and more comfortable to play things on in general. I'm personally kind of over the 3DS.
I think it was okay. New and old announcements went into the show.
Really good e3 to be honest. Wasn't expecting that.
At least six must buy games are coming soon, I'm very happy.
Nintendo did a very good job this year. I can't say that it was their best presentation, but certainly their best since 2014 (not that 2015 and 2016 were high bars to cross, but still).
It's funny that people criticize Nintendo for showing a Metroid Prime 4 logo so early, but I personally see why they did. Federation Force went so poorly, both commercially and critically, that this was their way of saying they're sorry. Any logical person would understand that it is well off in the distance, probably 2019 at the earliest. And I'm not upset that Retro isn't involved. I don't think it is fair that they need to be stuck with the Metroid franchise forever, and I think we can let someone else have a shot at it. I'm sure Retro has their own experiments they want to try. But hey, surprise announcement for Samus Returns! That's just icing on the cake, and I'm excited for that.
Quite frankly, I'm pretty pleased with what was announced, and after a slow start, the Switch seems to be taking a good form so far. One area they are still severely lacking is third party, but that's nothing new with Nintendo of course, but at least Ubisoft is putting effort into it. And as most of everyone has already expressed, I'm am deeply concerned about Monster Hunter; I just don't understand the complete turn around at all.
My particular highlights were..
Rocket League: Favourite-game-of-the-past-decade-is-hitting-the-Switch GOALS!
Super Mario Odyssey: This was when I finally 'got it' - blew me away! Looks absolutely amazing!
Pokémon Switch: I've waited almost 2 decades for a mainline Pokémon game on a 'home' console...hallelujah!
Metroid Prime 4: This hype-train has a long journey ahead of it - but it's full steam ahead from here to Releaseville!
I really kind of hope that the Kirby and Yoshi games aren't just working titles. It would be kind of nice to just reboot the titles and simply title them after the character. If it does well, then name it Kirby 2 and Yoshi 2 respectively.
It would be pretty damn cool if the next Zelda was simply titled "The Legend of Zelda" and was a complete remake of the original NES game but with Breath of the Wild's engine.
Also, Audrey's somewhat more than slight sociopathic bent was revealed in more detail.....that's entertaining on its own.
@Mykcir MH:U doesn't surprise me given the seemingly very reliable rumors highlighting MH:U exists at all by means of Sony paying Capcom to explicitly NOT put it on Nintendo. It exists precisely for the purpose of excluding Nintendo.
I'm a little more surprised about AC:O. I thought that had a chance given past AC history (however badly selling) on Nintendo (including a cancelled 3DS AC.) I suspect the big collab on Rabbids + Mario was kind of an either: or. They could either port one of their multiplats OR work on an exclusive game but wouldn't spend on both. The exclusive is actually a much more high-risk proposition for a publisher, so they actually took the very optimistic path with Nintendo more than a relatively cheap AC port if so.
@dangermouseuk78 WiiU had ports of prior generation games, late to the party and overpriced. That wasn't exactly tempting non-Nintendo fans any more than not having them at all. The problem was those games didn't really tempt Nintendo fans either In a broad sense it ticked off all the boxes of "big M rated thid party blockbusters" but when you drill down into what blockbusters they were, fans of other platforms already played them (or could play them on a more powerful system, or could play them cheaper), and fans of no-platform already rejected those games on the other platforms. So they only really aimed to appeal to Nintendo fans that missed out on them on other platforms. And the sales showed they didn't really appeal there either. The Ubi exclusive is smart. If 3rd parties have the impression only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo, then why not make Nintendo games to sell there? A 4th box for their multiplats prove to just shift their existing customers around rather than acquire new ones. But making different games for Nintendo opens a whole different market to diversify into (if they sell.) If Rabbids does well, you might see "collaborative 2nd party games with 3rd party studios" become the new norm with Nintendo "3rd party" efforts.
Whoever the 1% is that says Nintendo did poor is a worthless fellow. Pathetic... what do you expect as a person? Does nothing make you happy?
Side note: probable some ass trying to be funny by voting as such.
Great job, Nintendo !
But still missing one thing....
When is Animal Crossing for Switch ?!
And also when is Animal Crossing for Mobile ?
@Zach777
1% of those Pathetic fellows are Nintendo hater probably...
Was leaving my Switch Purchase till after E3, and as much as i liked Mario and the Rabbids game i was hoping to see more 3rd party than we got so still not convinced..
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
You cannot be so dead inside as to view the Metroid Prime 4 annoucement that cynically. I just refuse to believe that. I squealed like a child.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Just be patient !
You keep saying that again and again.
Lower your expectation.
Even some non AAA games taste better than AAA games.
@Anti-Matter "When is Animal Crossing for Switch ?!
And also when is Animal Crossing for Mobile ?"
Those are in fact the same question Reggie said in an interview that the strategy of using mobile apps for marketing real games is working really well and highlighted that FE:H is really boosting interest in Echoes and Warriors (and presumably they're taking that to FE Switch.)
Thus, the purpose of AC:Mobile is to build marketing and interest in AC Switch. So I'd guess AC Switch will be announced some months after AC Mobile is released.
@dangermouseuk78 Yeah, I don't think 3rd party in the XBox sense will ever happen, and Nintendo has more or less directly said they're not interested in doing that. I think as the console ages more third parties will show up, at least with older ports given Switches continuing success so far. Remember the games you saw THIS E3 started development 3+ years ago....back when WiiU was still the future of Nintendo and Switch did not exist. That's one of the reasons a new console has bland libraries. It takes time to catch up. N's really having a BANNER 1st year of a console, even without the WiiU ports, though. I can't think of a console from any company with so many "big" games in year 1 since maybe the PS2.
Nintendo did great this year!
While I'm not a big Metroid fan myself, I'm very glad more Metroid games are on the way for the fans!
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle really impressed me, and, of course, Mario Odyssey looks amazing, too!
I can't wait for Splatoon 2, Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Sonic Mania, Mario Odyssey, and Sonic Forces... it was a great E3!
Mario Odyssey was the game of the show for me but I don't get excited about a game title being shown in the presentation for less then 5 seconds or a director saying something is being worked on. Both games I'm referring to are huge games. In fact, both may turn out to be system sellers when it's all said and done. But ultimately I can't get pumped up for the way they chose to announce both games. Those games could be 2 years away yet and we know nothing! I would rather they show the two games next year through a trailer then the way they did it this year. Show me games I can play in 2017 or 2018, or at the very least show me a teaser other then the game title. I feel that Nintendo had to do that because the rest of 2017 & 2018 looks bleak outside of Mario. They want everyone to know that they're working on big games for the Switch.....but we already know that!
Metroid... Nuff sed
If Nintendo can keep up this stream of one big game a month until well into 2018, which it looks like they might, there will be enough games early on to tempt people to buy a Switch which will create the momentum needed to drive third parties over which will mean Nintendo doesn't have to work so hard. Or that's what I'm hoping.
@Jacob1092 Really? What did they show you of MP4 that was so good? A logo? That game is years away. I'm not going to get excited about something I know practically nothing about. It's a wait similar to Zelda: BOTW all over again. That was torture.
I've said it numerous times before that I wanted the next Metroid to be in 3rd person. Metroid Prime while great, isn't a true Metroid game in my opinion. Samus moves like a tank, isn't agile and many of her moves are either nerfed or aren't there.
Edit: Also, Nintendo doesn't treat the Metroid franchise with the respect it deserves. It's 7 years since the last 3D game, Other M. It's a decade since the last Prime game. It's 13 years since the last 2D game and this is a remake(of Return of Samus) like the last 2D game was, Zero Mission.
Not just that but the new 2D game is made by some lowly B rate studio from Spain. MP4 is being made by some new developers, we've no idea who they are. Imagine Zelda or Mario being treated like that where you don't get a game for more than a console generation or being fobbed off to B rate studios. It wouldn't happen.
I made a "Day One Buy" list:
Metroid: Samus Return, Fifa 18, Mario + Rabbids, Super Mario Odissey, Skyrim.
That's success if you ask me.
@Shiryu i did too
Nintendo really seems poised to please their fans it was AMAZING.
I guess I'm only really interested in Starlink, Pokemon announced for Switch next year and Kirby on Switch next year. Literally everything else went over my head.
I've already said it before - I think Nintendo's E3 was 'okay' and that it could have been better. But being passable can still mean 'successful' so I'm not disappointed. If anything, this E3 just showed me I have stuff to look forward to next year, right after all the stuff due for this year has found its legs on my Switch. And two of the things coming next year that I'm looking forward to are relatively big hitters - so that's good.
To summarise, it could have been better, (a mention of DQ10 would have been a major highlight for me) but I literally have nothing else to complain about - so I won't.
2 metroids = total annihalation
From that point on they could have even announced beavis and the butthead for all I care
@crackafreeze I long for a day when Mallow, Geno and several other characters from Mario RPG will make a triumphant return to us.
I'm most looking forward to:
Splatoon 2
Sonic Mania
Sonic Forces
Super Mario Odyssey
Kirby Switch
Starlink Battle for Atlas
LOZ BoTW DLC
Harvest Moon Light of Hope
Shantae Risky's Revenge
Pokemon Switch
Metroid Prime 4
Nintendo did solid, but mostly because everyone else fell flat. Doesn't change what Nintendo showed off was actually pretty good. I was just pleased that XC2 looked pretty great
Mario Odyssey looks incredible, Metroid 4, Yoshi, Kirby, Rocket League, Harvest Moon AND a Pokemon game in the works?!? Plus Splatoon 2, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Mario And the Rabbids looking great. I think they absolutely nailed it.
I voted for "Good, not amazing" simply because I look forward to E3 for new reveals and most of this year's Nintendo E3 was about games we already knew about. ARMS, Splatoon 2, and Odyssey all look fantastic and are Day One buys for me but I already knew they were coming. Rabbids was a fantastic reveal and instantly went from cringe-inducing to Day One buy for me as soon as I saw the gameplay reveal. But I needed more actual reveals to elevate this E3 to amazing for me. MP4 gameplay would have been amazing. Confirming BG&E2 for Switch would have been amazing. Pokemon footage for Switch would have been amazing. Monster Hunter XX or World for Switch would have been amazing. In other words, I loved all of the announcements of Nintendo's E3 and they are definitely trending in the right direction, but I still think it could have been more.
I love seeing the overall approval in the poll here.
Typically, Nintendo fans of the past 5-6 years have been pessimistic at best and kicking & screaming at their worst.
This is a nice change 😀
The I liked the most?
One word: "CATS!"
Can we has an indie direct in the next couple of months? Thanks Ninty.
@Anti-Matter animal crossing will come, just be patient. It will come within 2 years. Be patient ok
It's hard to only pick 3 favorites from this year's E3. As a Nintendo fan, I'm pretty happy with what the company is delivering over the next year.
Metroid, Metroid, METROID!
After E3 I decided today is the day for a little Father's Day treat to myself and I'd buy a Switch. (My wife has one, but I want to be able to save games on my own Switch.)
Local shops are sold out.
Not local shops are sold out.
Amazon UK had no stock until July 10.
Marvellous.
Best I've felt about Nintendo in awhile after that. Once they give us a release date on that Pokemon Switch title that is clearly just starting production, I'll become a Switch owner then.
Oh and Monster Hunter World = Best of E3. Hands down. Sad we won't see it until mid to late 2018 I assume for the system that matters, PC.
They showed off the 2017 release schedule really well, continued supporting 3DS, and 2018 is looking great with Yoshi, Kirby, and Starlink.
Nintendo had a great E3 that for me started with their main broadcast. I am a little bummed they didn't announce the SNES mini or Smash Bros for Switch, but I was very impressed with games I didn't expect to be impressed with. I can see buying 80-90% of what was shown.
As a die-hard Metroid fan and someone who wasn't really interested in anything the other companies showed, Nintendo saved this E3 for me.
It was a little disappointing. We didn't get any gameplay for the two big surprises: Pokemon Switch and Metroid Prime 4. Most of the other games shown were ones we already knew about.
Since I don't have a Switch, I wasn't the primary intended audience. That's fine though, because I still enjoyed the presentation.
Nintendo did just about everything that they could of done, and I'm happy about them. What the presentation needed was a demonstration of Sonic Forces, a look at Dragon Quest X & XI, and an indie sizzle reel. Basically everything Nintendo wasn't directly involved in.
Not THE best, but they certainly nailed it this year.
For me Ubisoft won E3 followed by Sony, Microsoft, Ninty then Bethesda, EA . Can't stand platformers so mario, Kirby, Yoshi has no chance with me. Prime and pokemon: no footage. Only xeno stood out for me. What wasn't announced for release was the biggest news for switch, Monster Hunter Worlds
2 Metroids. That's it.
I'm so frigging excited for Super Mario Odyssey! I can't believe it's coming in October. Hope I'm not broke!
Can't stand Metroid, loved Fire Emblem Warriors.
@Captain_Gonru I thought Nintendo did amazingly! I was actually underwhelmed by Sony's. My fault I got my hopes up for Bloodborne 2 and TLOU 2
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Normally a logo wouldn't impress me for a game. But it's been so long, just knowing it's going to be a thing, for certain, EVER is a big deal for most folks.
I'm with you though, I dislike 1st person Metroid compared to 3rd person/2D. I like Prime but it's its own thing, not really "Metroid" to my tastes. Gotta' remember though, a lot of these folks don't have the same fondness for the old school games and started in the N64/GCN era. It's different for them. I'm excited, sure, but I'm waaay more excited for Samus Returns, even if it's on 3DS. If I didn't have a 3DS (or three) around I'd be buying one for that game.
@NintySnesMan I agree Ubi won, but half of that was Miyamoto being up there with Yves, and then BG&E2. Without that (and AC) it was a collection of generic-y persistent open world stuff.
But they still won.
I'd put N over Sony, only because they had more new reveals, even if it's just a logo. Same trick sony won with last 2 years.
It was as good as it could have been without throwing all business sense to the wind on Nintendo's part, and if you're not demanding your perfect E3
Nintendo-related? Great E3.
Nintendo-actual? Average E3.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "Samus moves like a tank" in Metroid Prime?
Were you playing the GameCube or Wii version? Because the latter, using motion controls, is very fluid (especially when you set them to "advanced" in the options). As for it not being a "true" Metroid game, I couldn't disagree more. You can't get more Metroidy than Metroid Prime; it absolutely nails the atmosphere and gameplay.
I agree with everything else you said though. Oh, apart from a third-person Metroid. I don't know why... I just don't think it would work.
It was a great showing. But no Animal Crossing or Virtual Console struck me as really, really odd
Mario and two Metroids are great.... although MP4 wasn't really at E3. I'm guessing 2019. Might get Rabbids if it's really good. That's probably all I'm interested in that Nintendo showed.
Loved it
Pretty fun time overall. I liked what I saw of nearly every new game they showed (except Kirby and Mario + Rabbids. Everything else was dandy), and I'm happy to know Pokemon and Metroid Prime 4 are in our futures.
No Switch Animal Crossing news (or even at least more about that mobile thing), no Switch Virtual Console details, and no [insert any other franchise/service/accessory here] announcements . . . and yet, it was still an excellent showing for Nintendo this year.
Granted, with the Switch in my grubby hands, it's the first time I've had the newest hardware right before an E3 week since the Wii, so I may be a little too excited and biased at the moment to be objective, but I don't care . . . .
I'm pumped for Mario Odyssey and Metroid Prime 4, the "esports" style showcases of Pokken/ARMS/Splatoon2 were intense (at least to me, I've never really watched esports before), and even some of the 3DS stuff looked cool (and I don't even have a 3DS, still rocking the DS Lite, lol).
It does really feel like the Switch was launched about a year too early, but Nintendo is certainly making the most of what the have to work with this year (kind of like what they do with their hardware). With the seeds they've planted this year (Core Pokemon RPG? That better mean what I think it means), here's hoping they just knock it out of the park next year.
Very good without being amazing.
A big and (surprisingly good) reveal for this year, footage of two for next year, promise of two big titles at a misc. date.
Plenty of stuff missing (VC, media apps, Indies) but overall more evidence that Nintendo have a clear direction and a plan. And with so many first-party games, a very strong first year (or 10 months).
@Monkey_Balls I've played them all. In Prime, she doesn't either have or it's lame; speed booster, wall jumping, space jump, screw attack. It's not as immersive in 1st person, you can't see her or her suit very often. Also, there's more moves missing when not played in 2D, like using the grapple beam to sin around and land on top of platforms. That's another thing that's nerfed in Prime. It's extremely basic.
A 3rd person Metroid can be done, Other M laid a good foundation. Yes, that made mistakes but they were things like the pixel hunts, not using the nunchuk and the story was stupid in parts. But Samus was nimble, agile and had her full arsenal of moves. Other M could be improved upon. And I think a 1st person view definitely has a function within a 3rd person game.
@NEStalgia I too think Ubisoft had the best E3 out of everyone.
The Stirling squid was my highlight, what a trophy! I feel they did not show much new stuff but they covered that well with esports events and extended treehouse.
Idk guys 55% saying Nintendo nailed it? I was disappointed overall 🤔🤔😑🙄
Is it bad that I picked neither Metroid Prime 4 nor Super Mario Odyssey in the poll?
@Yorumi Yoshi still looks better than Kirby though, at least to me.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE. Are you looking forward to the new Just Dance on Wii U and Zelda BOTW dlc though?
@Yorumi I thought the same about Yoshi from the Spotlight trailer but changed my mind after watching Treehouse Live. I now think it's good.
I think Nintendo did very well. The games I'm looking forward to are Mario Odyssey, Mario+Rabbids, Xenoblade, Metroid 3DS, and for other consoles Monster Hunter World.
In regards to Metroid Prime 4, I am happy that it was announced but I can't honestly get hyped about it because I know Nintendo is going to be showing that game off for the next possibly two E3s.
Last thing, I had a great time watching E3 week with you guys. Everybody here is awesome. The Nlife team is the best. The pun game is strong over here. Anyway keep up the good work you guys.
@Pokefanmum82 My wife and I are in love with those, we just wish the Mario and Peach wedding amiibo existed when we got married! lol
@dazzleshell Just Dance can die for all I care.
The DLC Pack 1 for BOTW contains mostly stuff that should have been in the game already and should be free. The costumes offer nothing over what's already in the game except for the Korok mask. I've already found all 900 seeds, so it's too late, the same goes for the Traveller's Pendant. I've completed everything in the game, played over 400 hours. I'm not going doing Hero's Mode. Stuff like that and the Trials of the Sword were free in Twilight Princess.
I want to see what's in the second pack before I buy it. I paid €45 for the Wii U version of the game. Most of this stuff is lame, like the Switch T-shirt, the treasure chests, Tingle costume(gimp suit). You're really paying for DLC Pack 2. So €20 more for what I'm sure will be a tiny fraction of added content compared to the main game.
Mario looks great, however nothing else screams I need a Switch right now.
I think the library for a first year launch and the first Holiday sales coming up is very solid now. It's especially true for anyone who never had a Wii U but is interested in the Switch, but with Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey and the promise of more, even the Wii U owners have big games to win them over.
The presentation itself was pretty good, overall. I'm especially glad that so much gameplay footage with treehouse was available because I don't know what it is... trailers for some games aren't doing them justice.
Mario + Rabbids, Yoshi and Metroid Samus Returns have trailers that make them look less than great, where extended footage of just regular gameplay serves the games better.
Lack of online services and VC plans hurt a bit, and nothing concrete from DLC 2 for Zelda BOTW was... actually weird. Guess they are saving up for after DLC 1 launches?
it was good to very good not quite reaching great. Hoping "Switch is great for 3rd parties" doesn't turn into "The DS is the ultimate control scheme for FPS" (of which there are still like... none). We gotta at least get Project Mirai onto the switch somehow right? Would have liked VC info, nobody wants to lug around three consoles and portables worth of games when they can do it with one.
The good: the Kirbs, Unlike some games where I get tired of how formulaic they are, this never happens with Kirby. Metroid II remake (people whining about Metroid better buy this so we can get an actual honest to god new 2D metroid down the line) is a purchase. Mario Odyssey looked spectacular. I'm almost ready to buy a Switch for it, just need a little more push (and having played the ARMS testpunch, good god it's not that).
I wonder if those extremely satisfied fit into one or both of these groups:
A. Own a Switch AND a PS4/XBox One
B. Are in the Pokémon generation
Not desperaging either descriptor but I wonder if those of us who are not as thrilled are:
A. One console kind of people
B. Older than the Pokémon generation - so like 35+
If I had a PS4 and a Switch and was therefore not missing out on any AAA titles I would be really happy with the presentation. As it is I'm still trying to decide whether to get a Switch or a PS4.
Where was Animal Crossing?
I think it's a bit unrealistic to expect animal crossing when we just had that big welcome amiibo update for new leaf at the end of last year.
If I could've voted for 4 announcements instead of 3, I'd have added Yoshi in there. That looks fantastic and I can't wait to play it.
Nintendo really has me hyped — I don't have a Switch yet but that's only because there was nothing saying "YOU NEED ME TO PLAY THIS!"
...but NOW..... Yep getting one ASAP.
@KirbyTheVampire Not to call you out but I don't understand why people were expecting Smash or AC. This year's lineup is full of games, and we still need first party support that can create hype next year. Smash and AC are the logical solutions for the problem of a second year drought.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE It's interesting that you say Prime (being first-person) wasn't as immersive, because I feel that perspective made it much more immersive than the 2D games. Sure, you can't see Samus, but I felt like I was Samus. Obviously some abilities needed to be removed/nerfed for a first-person perspective, but the abilities we had were still Metroid through and through. Plus... the atmosphere. I thought Super Metroid couldn't be beaten, but once I was actually behind that visor...
Other M: that game is one of the reasons I wouldn't want Metroid to go third-person. Most people hated the story; that was actually my favourite part. The gameplay and atmosphere were lacking for me. Isolation. Tension. Exploration. A sense of wonder and progression. Prime had the lot. Other M had none of those things. It just didn't feel like Metroid.
A third-person Metroid could work, of course - just not using Other M as a foundation. I'm thinking something along the lines of the first Tomb Raider which had great atmosphere, exploration and sense of isolation. However, if it's something like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry, featuring a super-agile, somersaulting Samus ninja-ing her way through enemies (while interspersed with cutscenes showing finishing moves)... Ugh, no thanks.
A Metroid featuring both first and third-person gameplay would be interesting though.
Only disappointments, the whole Monster Hunter Worlds fiasco, Retro Studio's game not being revealed, and a few MIAs that being No More Heroes 3, SMT5, all the DQ games, Octopath, Platinum's game, with those games not showing it would have been nice for a bit more 3rd party games to have been shown. I'm okay with games like Animal Crossing and F-Zero not appearing this year, but they are a must show next years E3.
But even still, I feel Nintendo had and absolutely fantastic E3 this year, had me more excited than anyone else. Looking forward to the rest of the year and onto next year.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE And it feels SO wrong to be able to say that about what's normally the most awkward of all shows!
I'm glad for them. They're in such a bad place right now, and Yves seems like such a likable guy who's really in it for the games. They deserved such a great show.
"Eternal Darkness 2 - Now in development for Nintendo Switch."
That would have been the tits.
@Grawlog Well, with two Metroid games coming even bitter Wii U holdouts have to be excited, right? Right?
I agree that there is plenty to look forward to, and there's a question I'd like to ask anyone who thinks there isn't much--how many games do you need? How many can you afford to buy and find time to play? I get wanting to have as many options available as possible, and to have the same options that players on other systems have, but if you've ever read the comments on the weekly download articles, you'd get the impression of people who need a new game or three every week, and I literally don't understand how anyone could have either enough time or enough money for that to be the case. So I think what Nintendo has shown is plenty, and should satisfy everyone here. Not because everyone should like what Nintendo offers, of course, but because if you don't like what Nintendo offers, well then why are you reading a Nintendo fan site?
Nintendo nailed E3 this year though I did prefer E3 2014.
"It was good, just not 'amazing'",
If Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon Switch had been actual real tangible games, and the Virtual Console had been revealed and the English version of Mother 3 had been announced, it would have earned "Nintendo nailed it, a fantastic effort".
@Nintendoforlife I wasn't expecting it this year, and I certainly didn't expect to see Smash at all, considering we already have ARMS and Pokken. I just thought they might announce Animal Crossing for a 2018 release. I still wasn't that surprised that it wasn't there, though. I figure they'll want to announce it later alongside their AC mobile game or something.
Can't vote "Metroid Prime 4" three times
@Aneira As much as I love the Metroid Prime games, had they announced Eternal Darkness 2 but not Metroid Prime 4, it would have improved the Spotlight.
In an unrelated note that I feel like ranting a bit about, I've been hoping for Beyond Good and Evil 2 as long as I've been hoping for Eternal Darkness 2, so I was ecstatic to see it (re)announced, but after seeing what Ancel said his plans were, I'm significantly less enthusiastic than I used to be. It just doesn't sound anything like the first game, and while I won't claim I understand what defines a Beyond Good and Evil game better than Ancel does, I don't see him pursuing what made the original so good in the second. It doesn't mean the second won't be just as good, of course, but my expectations are now just what they are of any game, namely nothing at all, replaced with the generic hope that every game is good, and waiting to see which ones actually prove to be.
It was good. Not amazing or mind blowing, but there are games that got my attention from Nintendo so it did its job.
Nintendo did good this year. There's no other way to put it. I went in worried zero in too much on one or two games again (a tactic that makes perfect sense now), but no, they knew this was the time to open the flood gates. They had to do two things right, lots of new titles to chew on, and if you must talk about ones we know about, make it so interest is renewed. AND THEY DID BOTH.
As much as I don't like the light third party support, I think their own IP is still the best weapon they have. NOW if only an outlet I frequent actually had the Switch in stock.
@UK-Nintendo
Did you mock at me about Animal Crossing for Switch ?
Said 2 years was sound harsh for me.
No. Lol. We jus had a big welcome amiibo update for new leaf at the end of last year. It will come
Nintendo's only announcements could have been Metroid Prime 4 and Samus Returns and I would have been satisfied.
@KirbyTheVampire I think Animal Crossing New Leaf needs a longer life.
My 3 favorite reveals were Mario + Rabbids, Samus Returns, and Sushido.
Mario + Rabbids because the game looks fantastic! A tactical RPG shooter starring Mario and friends is something I never asked for or knew I wanted, but dang it looks great. There's clearly a lot of love that went into it and I'm excited to play it when it releases.
Samus Returns, because Metroid II was one of my very first video games. If you'd told me Nintendo was going to announce an official Metroid II remake I wouldn't have cared, but actually seeing the trailer blew my mind. I've never been a major fan of Metroid but something about that trailer and the emotional connection I have with the original (that I didn't really recognize I had until now) got me more excited and emotional than anything else at this E3. I'm stoked to play it.
Sushido because that was a total surprise out of nowhere, but I love the style of it! I love that no one saw it coming, that it is full of style and color and energy, and that it's a crazy unique puzzle action game. What a crazy combination of ideas, but it all seems to come together super well and I'm excited for it.
Not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting anything spectacular, but sure enough, Nintendo made up for the past three lousy presentations in 25 minutes. Okay so the Robot Chicken sketch in 2014 was freaking hilarious XD
@Shiryu I am really excited about Starlink...can't wait to hear more real details about it...however the Minecraft cross-play and Super Duper Graphics update (which I notice never seems to be mentioned ANYWHERE...but is GREAT news), Rocket League (which I've held off on getting on my PS4 in the hopes it would come to Switch)...the new Skyrim details...XC2 plays and release confirmed for this year...and Kingdom Battle beat out the news of the new IP...for me anyway. But I'm very interested in it!
@Pokefanmum82 And that Metroid amibo...I have GOT to get my hands on that one!
yeah 2 metroids!!
But I'm still severely disappointed.
xbox had amazing, beautiful gameplay of dragonball fighterZ and Sony had a spiderman game I have been dreaming about for years now.
Nintendo should have made all their tree house announcements part of their E3 spotlight to give it much more "oomph"!!
Nintendo really hit all the right buttons for me this time around. 2 new Metroids in the works, in addition to a remake of one of my absolute favorite games Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga.
Great job guys!
Overall I was very pleased. I went in with low expectations and was completely blown away. I've never been this excited for a new Mario game before since Sunshine, so Odyssey will be a day 1 buy for me. I never really gave Metroid or the Prime games a real chance before, but they definitely have my attention now. Wish they would have elaborated more on the new Pokemon title, but that will come in a later direct Im sure, so just have to to be patient. I'm calling a Diamond and Pearl remake right now (and really hope that's the case).
@dkxcalibur Bleak? Really? We have ARMS now...Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Skyrim, Kingdom Battle, Poken DX, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Fate Extalla (sorry if that's spelled wrong), Rocket League, Minecraft graphics upgrade/Realms/cross-system play update (it makes me a little sad inside that no one else ever mentions this...lol), FIFA 18 (hate on it some have, but its still a full fledged FIFA game with all main modes of play), Mario Odyssey, and more (those are just off the top of my head) coming before the end of THIS year. That's only 2017. There is at LEAST one big name game coming every month from now through the end of the year. How anyone can say that's "bleak" I really don't understand. Maybe they aren't all games that fit every person exactly...but that doesn't mean there aren't a ton of games coming out on the Switch for just this year alone. And if you take all those upcoming games (not to mention all the indie games supposed to drop between now and the end of the year) and all the games already released for the Switch up TO this point...Nintendo is having a STELLAR launch year. Easily one of the best first year launch libraries I can think of since PS2.
It was a decent enough E3, however, I felt that the lack of availability of the Switch cast a huge shadow over the event. I mean they are hyping a console that really hasn't been available since its release 3 months ago. I really think Nintendo should have addressed this issue by making some kind of public explanation or apology.
@photon Oh, the Switch has been available. It just generally sells out REALLY fast whenever anywhere gets a shipment in (in most places, I know there are outliers). For example, over at gonintendo I think it was either just before or during E3, they posted something saying that someplace had just announced Switch stock replacements in...and they sold out completely in just 18 minutes. Stock is coming in...slower than I'm sure Nintendo would like...but its just being grabbed up immediately. I didn't get my Switch directly at launch. I picked up one of the Gamestop bundles that came out about a month later...but I'm VERY happy I got it (yes, even with Just Dance...people may hate on it...but with a family or group of friends it can be a lot of fun to bop around to). I feel Nintendo has apologized for the slower than wanted shipments...but I think that's partly also to the greater than expected demand. NO ONE thought the system would be this hot on the market, I personally think...and Nintendo were caught flat-footed on that. That's not exactly their fault.
@Shiryu Not anymore lol
Treehouse gameplay of supermario odyssey, fire emblem warriors & XC2, along with the Metroid Prime 4 announcement finally sold me on getting a switch.
Was praying for Pokemon and MonHun for the Switch.
I got a soft Yes on the former, and a soft No on the latter.
So the event was a bit of a disappointment for me. But the things that Nintendo and its partners did reveal were all very nice. I'm hoping things continue to pick up!
Picked Odyssey, Prime 4, and Superstar Saga were my favorite reveals. Really looking forward to those titles!
Very good showing by Nintendo this E3. The game I was personally anticipating the most wasn't shown, but I have to overlook that because of the other stuff they did show.
Thought it was a really good E3. Very excited about a few games that were announced, some decent surprises, and what appears to be a solid 1st party lineup for the rest of 2017 and well into 2018. I'm sure there will be more announced too.
I was disappointed by the DLC for BotW, was hoping for something better, but just means I will save $20. I was also hoping for a little more 3rd party support announced, but if the Switch keeps selling like it is, we will get some more 3rd party titles.
Over all I thought it was excellent though and was very happy and the tree house segments are getting a lot more polished and entertaining
They won E3 for sure, I'm just sad to see some Nintendo Youtubers use this opportunity to gain some credibly by trashing what Nintendo did...
I'm not trying to be a downer, but something has been bothering me since E3 started and we saw the games Nintendo was showing off.
I think the first-party line up is wonderful, packed with tons of great games. But then, it's Nintendo we are talking about. Their first-party is without match in the gaming business. But as the Wii U painfully showed us, Nintendo cannot do it all on their own.
What bothers me is the fact that we have yet another Nintendo platform that is not getting third-party games. Where was stuff like Dragon Ball Fighters Z, Monster Hunter World, Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, Assassin's Creed Origins, the list goes on and on.
Your biggest third-party titles are Skyrim which is a six year old game, and Rocket League which other platforms got years ago.
People can think I'm being a hater, but the lack of third-party support is bothering me. Where are the third-party games? We had a list only a few months ago that touted all these third-parties that were supporting the Switch.
And yet, we hardly saw anything on that front. Its still early, but the landscape for third-party looks at barren as it always has since the Nintendo 64.
@Caryslan yeah no Monster Hunter is a big downer for me. I was at least expecting MHXX, but that game is now in limbo for the Switch (and 3DS). Still hoping that Capcom either changes their minds and releases it on a Nintendo console, or announce that they plan to all along and it was all just poorly handled PR.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE its the best its been in years lol
@SLIGEACH_EIRE lol have the stuff you said really don't matter.it will be a fantastic game as the other 3.besides if you had the knowledge you would know.nintendo don't hand their ip's to just anyone.lol remember thats how the ps1 was born.sony wanted rights to Nintendo's ip's.Nintendo said nope.the cdi games is why they don't lol
Metroids and Marios
I was more surprised there was no Smash bros port announced and a little disappointed.
@PanurgeJr
I'd still prefer Metroid, but I see no reason why both should not have been announced. Why shouldn't and wouldn't you meet public demand?
I agree regarding Beyond Good & Evil 2. Do we even know if it will come to Switch at all? A year ago it was talked about as a Switch exclusive. It seems like the sure calls has been anything but that these days... Monster Hunter going to PS4 as well while we get a portable port of XX instead with rubbish for graphics.
I was reasonably pleased by Nintendo's efforts at this E3. The news of Metroid Prime 4 and Samus Returns was fantastic and just what I had been hoping to hear for a long time. There's a lot of talk of Metroid Prime 4 being a long time away from release, but is it that unreasonably to expect a holiday 2018 release? Both Kirby and Yoshi look like they aren't far off completion and look as though they both could easily be released in the first half of next year. After that the next announced game is MP4 and they need a big game for the 2018 holiday period.
Nintendo have a really good line-up for Switch this year. They just need to keep the momentum going, which they seem to be doing a great job of at the moment.
The best new game announcement for me was Nicalis' new fighter Blades Strangers, which seems to have slipped under the radar of most gamers by the look of it.
My only disappointment was the fact that they pretty much put all of their eggs in one basket so to speak by revealing most of the good stuff on day one. I kept tuning in on days two and three because I though they might have a few more surprises up there sleeves. All I really got was basically Capcoms non-committal attitude towards a Switch release of Monster Hunter.
Yeah! I'm part of of the 0% who are looking forward to Sushi Striker!
I think capcom made a big mistake not having MH-W on the switch. I have not heard one PS4 player give it even a passing mention and it is getting no excitement on any the ps4 forums. In fact the only place I am hearing any mention of it is in the Nintendo space. As this is a west only release it would seem, even if a deal was made to keep it off the switch, it would still be a very poor call if the game does not move copies.
The main reason i picked up a switch was to play Zelda and Skyrim(again), I have 9 games on my switch now and pre-orders for splatoon2 and Mario. Will also get FIFA and rocket league this year. So all told that's not a bad year one collection.
Does not look to be much coming to the PS4 over the next few months so may finally have so time to get though some of my game backlog although Star wars battle front is a day one with split screen to play with my sons.
It is what happens next year that will decide if the switch is a long term success for me. By that point I will have gotten my moneys worth already but is multiplats like me stop buying games it could end up the Wii for Nintendo, Great sales but rapid falling attach rates which is what Nintendo relies on make money. E3 showed me nothing I would be interested in 2018.. Hope we get a bayonetta 1/2 port in 2018
It was decent but not amazing. The highlight was the Odyssey trailer which was incredible. Other than that the next best footage was Ubisoft's Rabbids..
Can't help but feel samus returns should have come out on metroids anniversary... also i didn't feel like switch got much 3rd party support
@BarFooToo
Monster hunter world's is also coming out in Japan, but no xbox version, ps4 exclusive over there. In the west it's ps4 xbox and pc. It will sell lots and shift hardware, all MH games do great especially with the core development team working on it, and who knows it might even get a switch release eventually, probably not but you can't count it out
@PanurgeJr "how many games do you need?"
This is a good question. I barely have time to play any games myself, occasionally I'll have a binge here or there or throw in an hour or so some evenings, so maybe 3-4 games a year is enough for me, last year I played through Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD, I also had Star Fox and Bayonetta 2 to tide me over and I've still got Splatoon and recently Tropical Freeze keeping me happy. I don't really need much more than that until I get a Switch.
Some people sound like they use games to fill an empty void in their lives. Some people sound like they also get no joy from games or Nintendo in general. If I derive no joy from a form of entertainment I turn my back on it.
Oh yeah Ubisoft definitely won best CGI at E3, I'll be looking forward to seeing how much they have to strip back their big games when they finally come out. Microsoft had people cheering over water cooling in the Xbox One X....Nintendo had actual games playable. None of that "we spent 3 months working on the pores on Corey's face" nonsense.
@NintySnesMan Top selling PS4 games in Japan only sell in the thousands, As MH is seen as a social game it is unlikely to make much of a dent moving the few million players over from the handheld version. They would need to sell something close to 1.5 copies for every ps4 ever sold in Japan to reach the penetration of the handheld version. This is a play to try and expand the reach of MH to a global audience.
@Captain_Gonru fair point. Last years was pretty amazing and all they had was Zelda. Seeing that game for the first time in depth was a big moment. I think my 'wow' moment this year even though it fleeting, was that Metroid Prime reveal.
As awesome as it is that Metroid Prime 4 exists, I thought Nintendo's E3 overall was somewhat disappointing. The two biggest reveals, MP4 and Pokemon Switch, are so early in development that they couldn't, or just didn't, show anything. We may not get those games until 2019, and we certainly won't get them for over a year. Mario looks awesome, but we already knew that. Xenoblade looks awesome, but we already knew that (it's great that it's coming so soon though). The other announcements were kind of "B" reveals, not big hits. I'm sure they'll be great, and I'll definitely be getting a few of them (Rocket League and Kirby, and maybe the Rabbids game), but I wish there were more of them, especially indies, as well as at least 1 big reveal that we actually got to see. I was also hoping for some news about the Virtual Console, and a new Animal Crossing.
I'll have to say Nintendo nailed it as a whole. Seeing Mario Odyssey running hooked me in. It was one of the best games seen at E3 overall. And Rabbids looks great. The Ubisoft reveal was electric, and that audience lost their marbles. The Spotlight was subdued but drilled what's coming right now. I totally understand Nintendo's plan, and I think if they meet demand, this console may explode later this year. Of note, I'm an xbox one and wii u owner that was convinced the Switch is legit.
Samus returns and Fire Emblem Warriors were the only games to get me really excited. I genuinely liked what Nintendo showed, I just didn't feel that they revealed enough. Still, I'm happier with their reveals than any of the news to come out of the other gaming companies.
all it really was missing, is a new animal crossing. otherwise a pretty good E3 for Nintendo this year.
Mario Odyssey securing an official release date. Now comes the wait...
We had some nice reveals this E3, but what is great is that Nintendo still has cards to play and it doesn't feel like this is it anymore. So much potential still left even with the Metroid announcements. Didn't feel like that with the Wii U.
im personally happy w/ Ninty E3 as a whole. For me im happy that i got a bunch of games coming this year and next year. But reading some comments its sad some people feel entitled for more or just just want to complain for the sake of complaing about Ninty. Im just happy i have games to play now, XC2 actually releasing this year, Odyssey and of course 2 Metroid games...overall i was also happy with Sony and Microsoft as well...though im not convinced about XB1X but time will tell
@BarFooToo
Hey, MH world's in Japan won't sell like a handheld version but it will be the biggest selling ps4 game, but yeah, overall globally with xbox, pc and ps4 sales combined it will be a huge seller, I expect not just a few hundred thousand sales in Japan but far more than that, probably 1 million issh give or take some lifetime sales and over 2 million combined global , the way I see it, if GTA has sold 350 thousand and still selling in Japan then MH should do just fine
It was a solid presentation, easily the best for me of the big three, but it didn't really reach the part of "amazing". I'll admit, the first party lineup is solid - Odyssey looks fantastic, I'm really excited for FE Warriors, Rabbids looks far better than expected, and Takahashi doesn't dissapoint with XC2. Plus Metroid, nuff said.
But what about third parties? EA, Bethseda and Psyonix are bringing big games too, and Nintendo needs to promote them if they don't want to fail and continue the third party cycle. The responsability here is on Nintendo - they should have showed them in the spotlight, or on the Treehouse. FIFA is realeasing on September and they haven't done anything to push it on Switch players!
Plus, as others said, we missed the Nindies. Its an excellent moment to push games from those developers that have been on board, I'd would loved to hear an update (even if it was a 1 or 2 minutes video) from Playtonic about YL for Switch. A Treehouse Nindie day could have easily replaced day two or day three of Treehouse.
Finally... VC and OS updates. Couldn't they at least tease if they're coming now or next year? Leaving us in the dark is a common Nintendo strategy but one its starting to grow really annoying by now.
I think Nintendo pulled out a fantastic E3. I don't even like metroid and the footage of Samus Returns has me hyped. The simple changes made to the combat mechanics have me wanting to take the Varia Suit for a spin. Mario Rabbids was a pleasant surprise...I went in expecting to HATE it but ended up preordering. I shouldn't be shocked...Nintendo was not going to loan out their mascot and have the game suck. Yoshi and Kirby look great and good feel has done a great job of converting me to a fan of the green dino steed. FE Warriors looks fantastic, lots of enemies on screen and didn't look like a lot of slowdown, the roster might be limited but so was HW at first...I'm still slogging through that on the WiiU so I don't expect FE Warriors to be any different. Been on a warriors kick lately anyway. I was grateful for the prime 4 and pokemon announcements as hopefully they will appease the beggars and rumormongers. Xenoblade 2 looks great (and the voice acting is a little better than the original) but I am still working through the other xenoblade games and I would have been shocked if monolith let us down. Spatoon 2 and Pokken are looking fantastic (If I can put down ARMS) and I'm loving that many of these games are releasing sooner than I expected...my bank account is not happy though. Mario is a return to what made mario lovable for me. I am a 64 and sunshine fan; Galaxy had too many loopy camera changes for me. So I am beyond excited for Odyssey...also why are these games so fricken pretty? Starlink looks cool, especially since the toys aren't required. I have an insane amiibo collection...that is enough. That combined with previous directs means I am averaging 2-4 retail games a month for switch...I'm not mad at all about that. My xbone still gathers dust...
I have to say I was mostly disappointed all around with the rest of e3...Microsoft has done nothing to convince me to stick with xbox and in fact they have successfully pushed me to pick up a OEM copy of windows 10 for my gaming rig. Crackdown 3 looks fantastic as I hoped it would but again it is on Windows 10 too.
Sony's heavy hitter for me was Spiderman...Miles Morales seals the deal for a day one purchase. The rest of it was very meh, games I could play but later on down the line. Ubisoft broke my heart. AC:O looks good, I'm catching up with Unity and Syndacate now so I should be ready by the time it launches, but BG&E2 was not what I was expecting...hype level down to zero now. Makes me worried about Shenmue now actually. What happened to steep for switch or the rayman re port? Otherwise it felt like an anemic showing for the other big players. I was hoping for more fighting game news but that is because that is my bread and butter.
From a dev perspective Nintendo had an insane amount of announcements; I know people were hoping every 3rd party game was going to switch but I'm expecting a year of late ports really (hopefully with everything in them but just due to devs needing time to port their games over) so I wasn't bothered. If E3 2018 is just a barren then yeah I'll get on the "where are the 3rd parties?!" train. For now this is still a new system and every new system has library issues..Nintendo is doing a stellar job covering that up though. Which I am hoping is the plan. Nintendo props the system up with heavy hitters (zelda,mk,mario,splatoon even arms and FE Warriors) and promises of more next year and that sells systems...then third parties have breathing room to gather porting teams and get games on the switch. That is what I feel like I'm seeing...time will tell.
@NintySnesMan According to last July Sony investor briefing there are just north of 300,000 active PSN subscriptions in Japan across PS3, PS4 and PSP/Vita. I do not think they will buy 3 copies each. And as I said the silence in PS press and forums is deafening. I don't see the last gen graphics and story light igniting western PS4 or Xbox sales. It may just be the fact that I am traditionally a PlayStation player and its been 20 years since I had heard of MH that it seems that way but time will tell. I see 1 Million global tops
Really had my hopes set on VC info/launch date, Animal crossing or Pilot wings. Oh well, there's always next year.
Although we knew about most of the games launching for Switch this year, that doesn't mean this presentation was lacking. Frankly, they showed what they need to, and convinced me of what I believed all along, that Switch is replacing 3DS and Wii U. I've been vocal about wanting Nintendo to consolidate catalogs for handheld and console, and I took the Pokemon for Switch announcement as an admission that Switch is the go-to Nintendo device. For me, that means Switch is the ultimate Nintendo machine, and I love it.
If they didn't have anything to show, they should have kept quiet with Metroid Prime 4. Particularly when it's handled by a new team.
Would have been a great reveal when there was actual footage.
@Ryu_Niiyama Did you check out the new fighter Blade Strangers from Nicalis. I thought it looked like an excellent new fighting game.
@Nomad Yep! It is on my radar. I loved code of princess anyway so that is enough for me to buy it actually. However the clips they showed looked like a nice 2d-esque fighter so I'm curious (aside from VF and SC I prefer 2d to 3d fighters)
@Ryu_Niiyama Code of Princess and Cave Story characters are a big draw for me. Plus it will be interesting to see how the Smash Bros control type special moves will work out in a 2D fighter like this.
Can't wait for the new fire emblems warrior amibo figures to come out
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