@Santoria I'm not sure, but based on the number of downvotes you got, along with my experience with NL's comments section, I can say with confidence that it's not limited to Japan.
@WomboCombo Way to sneak in that think a plotline about ENDING SLAVERY is somehow a political statement, and not just, you know, something we should all by default support. Do you also think that the Nazis = Bad statement of Wolfenstein was lecturing you too hard?
@Charlie_Girl It makes me incredibly sad that all you do is show up to have a conversation, and people just downvote you out of spite. It makes me incredibly happy, though, that you keep showing up regardless of what response you get.
@iLikeUrAttitude If by convince me, you mean that the hate speech I've witnessed actually isn't? Then yeah, I probably wouldn't waste the time if I were you.
Oh, look, another comment thread on NL fraught with whiny reactionaries angry that their access to digital cheesecake has been slightly reduced. Y'all know Pornhub is free, right? Take a chill-pill and stop pretending anything about your life is being oppressed here.
I love the complete dolts in this comment thread throwing around SJW, etc., like these guys visited the Meiji Shrine or something. Imagine if some VW employees visited a shrine to the Third Reich and excitedly posted about it on Twitter. Would you call me a snowflake for considering that obtuse and offensive? Learn some history and respect it before you run your little mouths off online. Christ almighty.
I mean, there are worse games, but Ice Climber would clearly not be this well known if not for Smash Bros. It's otherwise a perfectly forgettable 80s platformer.
I had a friend who had the first one. He insisted he liked it because of the item collecting and minigames, but it was obvious that he just wanted to oggle some digital cheesecake. I have no philosophical problem with this except to the extend that the playing field is not equal. If women or queerfolk want to oggle beefcake they're relegated to the doldrums of a yaoi deviant art account. Wherefore art thou, legit Hyabusa goods?
This comments section, with its "PC run amok" thread? That's the reason I'm profoundly embarrassed to be a gamer.
If they want to be considerate and self correct that's their decision. If you disagree so much that you're this mad, then maybe just vote with your wallet and stay away. You can use the money you'll save purchasing an Atari VCS and copy of Custer's Revenge to while away the hours lamenting the better times of yesteryear, when none of us had to worry about silly things like being PC or having mutual respect.
If the headline were "Mario Party Can't Be Controlled With Only Your Mind" you lot would find a way to be both surprised and infuriated. Settle down and think these things through before blowing a gasket, maybe.
I feel like many who post here get off on their anger. Like, I can think of plenty of reasons to criticize Nintendo, but the abject rage on display here is legitimately disturbing. I cannot fathom working up this much negativity over a videogame, but people are posting as if Nintendo were putting children in jail.
I try to wade in with logic and an appeal to reason when I can, but most seem less interested in actual discussion than their spitting, poorly-spelled histrionics.
Your other points were all, "Yeah, but Mega Man," which I did address.
Look, you seem to think I'm against this. I'm not. I actually don't care. But if you cannot consider the logistical mountain looming between every game and support, I can't really help you. Yes, it would be great if Capcom would implement support so y'all could play Mega Man 2 with a boxy, uncomfortable controller like we had no choice about in 1988. My whole point was that it's on Capcom to patch it in, and isn't on Nintendo to enforce. That's why Nintendo isn't advertising universal support: it's not a practical solution outside of the NES environment.
The switch has four face buttons, four shoulder buttons, plus and minus, in addition to the home and capture. The NES has two game buttons and start/select. That means six fewer buttons, which could cause a logistical impossibility in a lot of games without bringing another Joycon in tandem.
Unless Nintendo implemented gatekeeping to literally block developers from using them outside of the NES emulator (unlikely), I think it's going to be a matter of whether devs want to patch their existing games or build in special support for future games. I think Nintendo doesn't expect many will do so, and frankly neither do I.
Right, but what I'm saying is that this is probably up to individual developers as to whether they're going to patch their games to support this given the button limitation. The fact that the NES controller has just four buttons and a D-pad could make some support impossible without also using a Joycon for tertiary commands. Some games may not work well that way, and others may not work at all. Nintendo saying that they are meant only for NES use just means they can't guarantee any other developers will bite, and they can't force support of an optional peripheral. The fact that they'll get minimal payout for their effort probably means most developers won't want to try.
I don't think there's a way to stop developers from supporting these controllers if they want to. The issue is, there aren't enough buttons to match the standard Joycon layout. So you're asking developers to potentially limit the gameplay so a subset of users can feel young again. Maybe they can split the difference and have you use a Joycon in tandem with the NES controller, but then it starts to sound unwieldy. Honestly, I'll just stick with my Pro controller and sit this whole thing out regardless. It's LEAGUES more comfortable than the boxy old NES controller.
Y'all get so riled up at the slightest things. I worry about how some of you deal with real stresses, if this is how much you freak out that your videogame save redundancy might be at risk if you miss a payment. Yeesh.
Oh FFS. Is there a bigger group of whiney reactionaries than Gamers? We're finally getting a proper bloody MM game, and all Gamers can do is crap on the door animation not alligning with their Platonic vision. We deserved Mighty No. 9...
This was a very weird game, with its GBA connectivity for multiplayer and bizarre chalice lugging mechanic. I wasn't super impressed when I played it back in the day, and I'm not sure how well it will have aged. Hopefully the remaster will improve things, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
It's been happening since before then. A lot of devs jumped ship when the Big N opted for carts rather than CDs with the N64. (It's why they lost Squaresoft's support to Sony with FFVII.) Heck, even the SNES lost ground to Sega with Nintendo's staunchly conservative take on violence, and maintaining a kid-friendly image. Love them or not (I tend to love, but I have my moments) their insistence on zigging will always guarantee they also buck some degree of mainstream dev support.
Now, do they really need it? I can't tell you the last time I played one of these paint-by-numbers shooters. But I'm logging tons of time on my portable indie machine. (Not to mention the evergreen AAA output from Nintendo themselves.) I'm not losing much sleep, and I daresay neither is Nintendo.
Whoa, they're actually coming to Minnesota? And it's near me? Huh. I haven't played a Smash game since Melee, but I suppose I should try to make it out on the 22nd, if only to say I did it.
I dunno what better exposure would have done. I knew this game was coming, and there were more than enough reviews out there to get a sense of it. Their trailer isn't great, frankly, and the art direction of the character designs are a bit amateur looking. (Not that I can do better, mind you.) I can see why a lot of people would stay away.
I actually bought this game, but I struggled for a while against my gut feeling that it was going to be meh. So far it's just been fine. It's Chrono Trigger lite with a cyberpunk spin (cool in theory), but the story is as cookie cutter as it gets, the dialogue one dimensional, and the battle system is unblanced. I'm enjoying it for its Sega CD retro feel, but I'm not sure if I can recommend it in good faith.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo chose to focus their not unlimited resources elsewhere because they knew it wasn't likely to hit. I'm sorry for him and his team because they tried hard, but sometimes failure isn't anyone else's fault.
You kids, with your expectations of accuracy and effort. In my day we had spoony bards, masters of unlocking, and all your bases were belong to us--by gum we liked it just fine! Why, the word salad nonsense of FFT's tutorial was the pinnacle of training: you figured out the whole thing all by yourself, while the game taunted you with indecipherable babble. That's how real gamers do it!
Judging by what I've seen thus far, it's likely that many of the games utilize the Joycon in unique ways that couldn't be replicated on a pro controller. I have no problem with that. I just hope the bundle releases in the States.
"You ever think ‘stop the world, I want to get off’ when you see something utterly ridiculous?"
As an American this is literally a daily occurrence living with a bunch of narcissistic lunatics running the executive branch of the government. Honestly it's somewhat refreshing to see it in relation to something as benign as a video game.
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Re: Review: Girls Und Panzer: Dream Tank Match DX - Yet Another Half-Hearted Anime Tie-In
@Santoria I'm not sure, but based on the number of downvotes you got, along with my experience with NL's comments section, I can say with confidence that it's not limited to Japan.
Re: Video: Here's How Mortal Kombat 11 On Switch Compares To The PS4 Version
@WomboCombo The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. Merry Christmas to you, too!
Re: Video: Here's How Mortal Kombat 11 On Switch Compares To The PS4 Version
@WomboCombo Way to sneak in that think a plotline about ENDING SLAVERY is somehow a political statement, and not just, you know, something we should all by default support. Do you also think that the Nazis = Bad statement of Wolfenstein was lecturing you too hard?
Re: Random: Artwork In Retro Japanese Magazine Depicts Link As A Female
@Charlie_Girl It makes me incredibly sad that all you do is show up to have a conversation, and people just downvote you out of spite. It makes me incredibly happy, though, that you keep showing up regardless of what response you get.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@iLikeUrAttitude If by convince me, you mean that the hate speech I've witnessed actually isn't? Then yeah, I probably wouldn't waste the time if I were you.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@iLikeUrAttitude If you can't see it I can't help you.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@iLikeUrAttitude I'm not. Just the ones that clearly are.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@iLikeUrAttitude Those aren't mutually exclusive concepts.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
Wow, there's some stonecold hate speech floating around in here, and the number of likes some of the comments are getting is legit terrifying.
Re: Dead Or Alive Xtreme 3: Scarlet Won’t Be Released In Europe Or North America
Oh, look, another comment thread on NL fraught with whiny reactionaries angry that their access to digital cheesecake has been slightly reduced. Y'all know Pornhub is free, right? Take a chill-pill and stop pretending anything about your life is being oppressed here.
Re: Random: What Ever Happened To The Queen's Golden Wii?
For a fun time, say the title of this article out loud to the next person you see. Enjoy the ensuing hilarity!
Re: IHUGU Arrives On Switch Next Week, Tasking Players With The Simple Art Of Hugging
I'm tired of games. When are games?
Re: Some Fans Are Calling For A Boycott Of Pokémon After Creatures Inc Shares Controversial Tweet
I love the complete dolts in this comment thread throwing around SJW, etc., like these guys visited the Meiji Shrine or something. Imagine if some VW employees visited a shrine to the Third Reich and excitedly posted about it on Twitter. Would you call me a snowflake for considering that obtuse and offensive? Learn some history and respect it before you run your little mouths off online. Christ almighty.
Re: Get A Surprise Switch Game In The Latest Limited Run Promotion
@roadrunner343
That makes sense. Thank you for providing those details!
Re: Get A Surprise Switch Game In The Latest Limited Run Promotion
"We can not take requests for specific titles because we do not know what is in each blind box."
"We have done our absolute best to minimize the chance that you will receive a duplicate game if you order multiple blind boxes."
These feel like contradictory statements. How can they minimize duplication if they don't know?
Re: Video: This Delightful Snow Scene Concept Has Us Desperate For A Paper Ice Climbers Game
@Nintendo_Thumb
I mean, there are worse games, but Ice Climber would clearly not be this well known if not for Smash Bros. It's otherwise a perfectly forgettable 80s platformer.
Re: Video: This Delightful Snow Scene Concept Has Us Desperate For A Paper Ice Climbers Game
This looks promising, but let's hope it's nothing like Ice Climber. Ice Climber is not a good game.
Re: Phantasy Star Joins The Sega AGES Line On Switch Today
The creator of Sonic is Yuji Naka, not Yuki.
Re: Dead Or Alive Xtreme 3: Scarlet Is Splashing Onto The Switch Early Next Year
I had a friend who had the first one. He insisted he liked it because of the item collecting and minigames, but it was obvious that he just wanted to oggle some digital cheesecake. I have no philosophical problem with this except to the extend that the playing field is not equal. If women or queerfolk want to oggle beefcake they're relegated to the doldrums of a yaoi deviant art account. Wherefore art thou, legit Hyabusa goods?
Re: Nintendo Will Remove Smash Bros. Ultimate's Offensive Depiction Of Native Americans
This comments section, with its "PC run amok" thread? That's the reason I'm profoundly embarrassed to be a gamer.
If they want to be considerate and self correct that's their decision. If you disagree so much that you're this mad, then maybe just vote with your wallet and stay away. You can use the money you'll save purchasing an Atari VCS and copy of Custer's Revenge to while away the hours lamenting the better times of yesteryear, when none of us had to worry about silly things like being PC or having mutual respect.
Re: Super Mario Party For Nintendo Switch Won't Support Handheld Mode
If the headline were "Mario Party Can't Be Controlled With Only Your Mind" you lot would find a way to be both surprised and infuriated. Settle down and think these things through before blowing a gasket, maybe.
Re: Nintendo Switch Now Supports Digital Game Sharing, But There's A Catch
@NintyNate
Nah, I'm good.
Re: Nintendo Switch Now Supports Digital Game Sharing
Too bad I don't have any friends.
Re: Wireless NES Controllers Won't Work With Other Games On Nintendo Switch
@JohnQuixote
I feel like many who post here get off on their anger. Like, I can think of plenty of reasons to criticize Nintendo, but the abject rage on display here is legitimately disturbing. I cannot fathom working up this much negativity over a videogame, but people are posting as if Nintendo were putting children in jail.
I try to wade in with logic and an appeal to reason when I can, but most seem less interested in actual discussion than their spitting, poorly-spelled histrionics.
Re: Wireless NES Controllers Won't Work With Other Games On Nintendo Switch
@Notshane
Your other points were all, "Yeah, but Mega Man," which I did address.
Look, you seem to think I'm against this. I'm not. I actually don't care. But if you cannot consider the logistical mountain looming between every game and support, I can't really help you. Yes, it would be great if Capcom would implement support so y'all could play Mega Man 2 with a boxy, uncomfortable controller like we had no choice about in 1988. My whole point was that it's on Capcom to patch it in, and isn't on Nintendo to enforce. That's why Nintendo isn't advertising universal support: it's not a practical solution outside of the NES environment.
Re: Wireless NES Controllers Won't Work With Other Games On Nintendo Switch
@BensonUii
It's all good!
Re: Wireless NES Controllers Won't Work With Other Games On Nintendo Switch
@Notshane
The switch has four face buttons, four shoulder buttons, plus and minus, in addition to the home and capture. The NES has two game buttons and start/select. That means six fewer buttons, which could cause a logistical impossibility in a lot of games without bringing another Joycon in tandem.
Unless Nintendo implemented gatekeeping to literally block developers from using them outside of the NES emulator (unlikely), I think it's going to be a matter of whether devs want to patch their existing games or build in special support for future games. I think Nintendo doesn't expect many will do so, and frankly neither do I.
Re: Wireless NES Controllers Won't Work With Other Games On Nintendo Switch
@Notshane
Right, but what I'm saying is that this is probably up to individual developers as to whether they're going to patch their games to support this given the button limitation. The fact that the NES controller has just four buttons and a D-pad could make some support impossible without also using a Joycon for tertiary commands. Some games may not work well that way, and others may not work at all. Nintendo saying that they are meant only for NES use just means they can't guarantee any other developers will bite, and they can't force support of an optional peripheral. The fact that they'll get minimal payout for their effort probably means most developers won't want to try.
Re: Wireless NES Controllers Won't Work With Other Games On Nintendo Switch
I don't think there's a way to stop developers from supporting these controllers if they want to. The issue is, there aren't enough buttons to match the standard Joycon layout. So you're asking developers to potentially limit the gameplay so a subset of users can feel young again. Maybe they can split the difference and have you use a Joycon in tandem with the NES controller, but then it starts to sound unwieldy. Honestly, I'll just stick with my Pro controller and sit this whole thing out regardless. It's LEAGUES more comfortable than the boxy old NES controller.
Re: NES Games On Switch Playable For Up To Seven Days Without Internet Connection
"WHY CAN'T YOU JUST GIVE ME EVERYTHING I WANT, HOW I WANT IT, WHEN I WANT IT, AND CHARGE ME NOTHING FOR IT?!"
-Y'all, apparently
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (September 15th)
In addition to Hollow Knight, I'm going to finish my playthrough of Gone Home. Absolutely brilliant game.
Re: Your Nintendo Switch Cloud Save Files Will Be Lost If Your Online Subscription Expires
Y'all get so riled up at the slightest things. I worry about how some of you deal with real stresses, if this is how much you freak out that your videogame save redundancy might be at risk if you miss a payment. Yeesh.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Is Finally Coming To A Nintendo Console
@eltomo
It's weird and divisive, but then so is IX. I wonder if it's more to do with Eyes on Me copyright issues than a qualitative judgement.
Re: Senran Kagura Reflexions - Cheap Titillation Masquerading As A Love Story
So many hot takes in the comments, I'm sweating.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Will Start On 19th September, More Info Coming In Direct
I just got here. Is it too late to throw a temper tantrum about a video game?
Re: Random: A Tiny Animation Change In Mega Man 11 Is Leaving Some Players Unhappy
Oh FFS. Is there a bigger group of whiney reactionaries than Gamers? We're finally getting a proper bloody MM game, and all Gamers can do is crap on the door animation not alligning with their Platonic vision. We deserved Mighty No. 9...
Re: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered Edition Announced For Nintendo Switch
This was a very weird game, with its GBA connectivity for multiplayer and bizarre chalice lugging mechanic. I wasn't super impressed when I played it back in the day, and I'm not sure how well it will have aged. Hopefully the remaster will improve things, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
Re: Nintendo Direct Airing Tomorrow To Showcase Upcoming Switch And 3DS Titles
My prediction: Daikatana 2
Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 4 Design Director Laughs Off Question About Switch Release
@whanvee
It's been happening since before then. A lot of devs jumped ship when the Big N opted for carts rather than CDs with the N64. (It's why they lost Squaresoft's support to Sony with FFVII.) Heck, even the SNES lost ground to Sega with Nintendo's staunchly conservative take on violence, and maintaining a kid-friendly image. Love them or not (I tend to love, but I have my moments) their insistence on zigging will always guarantee they also buck some degree of mainstream dev support.
Now, do they really need it? I can't tell you the last time I played one of these paint-by-numbers shooters. But I'm logging tons of time on my portable indie machine. (Not to mention the evergreen AAA output from Nintendo themselves.) I'm not losing much sleep, and I daresay neither is Nintendo.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Demo Events Taking Place In Best Buy Across America Next Week
Whoa, they're actually coming to Minnesota? And it's near me? Huh. I haven't played a Smash game since Melee, but I suppose I should try to make it out on the 22nd, if only to say I did it.
Re: Sony Interactive Entertainment Asia President Says Switch Has Had A "Positive Influence" On Games Market
@Crono1973
Sometimes things are jokes.
Re: Sony Interactive Entertainment Asia President Says Switch Has Had A "Positive Influence" On Games Market
I played Hollow Knight on the crapper today. That is all you need to know to know why the Switch is successful.
Re: Cosmic Star Heroine Dev Explains Its "Frustrating" Experience Working With Nintendo
I dunno what better exposure would have done. I knew this game was coming, and there were more than enough reviews out there to get a sense of it. Their trailer isn't great, frankly, and the art direction of the character designs are a bit amateur looking. (Not that I can do better, mind you.) I can see why a lot of people would stay away.
I actually bought this game, but I struggled for a while against my gut feeling that it was going to be meh. So far it's just been fine. It's Chrono Trigger lite with a cyberpunk spin (cool in theory), but the story is as cookie cutter as it gets, the dialogue one dimensional, and the battle system is unblanced. I'm enjoying it for its Sega CD retro feel, but I'm not sure if I can recommend it in good faith.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo chose to focus their not unlimited resources elsewhere because they knew it wasn't likely to hit. I'm sorry for him and his team because they tried hard, but sometimes failure isn't anyone else's fault.
Re: Review: God Wars: The Complete Legend (Switch)
You kids, with your expectations of accuracy and effort. In my day we had spoony bards, masters of unlocking, and all your bases were belong to us--by gum we liked it just fine! Why, the word salad nonsense of FFT's tutorial was the pinnacle of training: you figured out the whole thing all by yourself, while the game taunted you with indecipherable babble. That's how real gamers do it!
Re: Review: God Wars: The Complete Legend (Switch)
@Spiders
From the review:
"Japanese and English voiceovers are available, and both are suitably melodramatic"
Re: Mineko's Night Market Opens For Business On Nintendo Switch In Early 2019
I'm not sure yet about this one, but I wholly embrace the weird.
Re: Super Mario Party On Switch Won't Include Pro Controller Support
Judging by what I've seen thus far, it's likely that many of the games utilize the Joycon in unique ways that couldn't be replicated on a pro controller. I have no problem with that. I just hope the bundle releases in the States.
Re: Nintendo Switch Nindies Showcase Summer 2018 Announced For 28th August
@Bondi_Surfer
I came to say this. Oh no, I'm not getting the 500th incarnation of a banal, grey, dude-bro shooter! Darn!
Re: Review: Kero Blaster (Switch eShop)
"A ribbeting throwback shooter"
Oof.
Re: Video: Check Out Dark Souls: Remastered Running In Handheld Mode On Switch
@electrolite77
"You ever think ‘stop the world, I want to get off’ when you see something utterly ridiculous?"
As an American this is literally a daily occurrence living with a bunch of narcissistic lunatics running the executive branch of the government. Honestly it's somewhat refreshing to see it in relation to something as benign as a video game.