Dead Or Alive Xtreme 3: Scarlet Won’t Be Released In Europe Or North America

I want DOA6 on Switch.

That really bugs me. If there's English support, why not take a little extra effort to release the game at least digitally in the west? I'm sure there's some logistics reasons, but this shouldn't be a thing in the digital era. Yes, I'd prefer physical, but I'd prefer still the game being available /at/ /all/, y'know?

Some studios just dont want money

In this offended by anything and everything modern society, games like this will soon be deemed unacceptable. I wouldn't be surprised if Japan goes the same way, from what I've read it's already started.

Come on Nintendo, you were doing to good in this time of terrible political correctness. Don't fail us now.

What's even the appeal of these games? There are better volleyball games, better mini-game collections, better dating simulators, and yes, better sources of "that" kind of material. How much of the appeal of these games to Westerners is honestly part of their allegiance to a political tribe just to upset those they perceive to be their enemies in a cultural war?

Not a fan of this game series. I think developer talent like this could be used somewhere else. 😀

Saw the boxart in a shop yesterday in Tokyo and thought "golly."

@ReaderRagfihs thats one reason but some people dont care about logs or just dont think strangers should be looking at what they have to start with

Well this is just encouraging me to get the switch version from playasia

People are quick to throw politics in there but this is a business decision and all the studio cares about is money. Which means Western sales haven't been worth the paperwork. Cheer up, the Switch isn't region locked

That's okay. I'm buying it from the japanese eShop anyway.

@YorkshireNed You are absolutely correct. It is a business decision. But I suspect one made by politics.

That said, I don't buy that a digital release wouldn't be worth the paper work. Seeing as how there is an English version of the game, I don't see why they don't just throw it as a digital only in the west.

All that said, your point about the lack of region locking is the most important one.

And nothing of value was lost.

And hey JP switch games can still be bought on U.S. & E.U. consoles so not like it's that big of a deal anyway. Those that want it can still get it.

Wait so is this series really dead or alive? On one side it seems dead (this one is on Switch but not coming) and on the other side it seems alive (DOA 6 coming to all platforms except Switch). Which is it Tecmo, why you a Switch hater? Also where's my Fatal Frame 4 & 5 HD Remastered for Switch?

I find it odd that they’re not releasing it here, there is a market for these type of games in the West. For example there was a game (can’t remember the name) quite similar (in terms of purpose, not gameplay) that made it to the top 30 of the Switch’s EShop and it barely received any blow back (other than a few negative reviews).

But, then again the DOA Beach Volleyball brand is much more infamous than that game, so it does have the possibility of making an even bigger controversy.

Let's be real. They're fully aware of this BS outrage social media culture that scrutinizes and auto-hates any video game that dares to be taboo compared to social norms. So because the Switch has no region locking, they're pretty much letting us buy it anyway since it has English voice work.

Like I've mentioned before, Nights of Azure 2 is technically released in the west, and I can't even buy it on my account's eShop (insert a Roskomnadzor joke here) - and unlike the case with this game, no one official ever bothered to so much as mention it despite having openly advertised the game prior. While not seeing something localized is always a bummer (and always makes you wonder case-by-case - what is so "extreme" about this Scarlet as compared to Senran Kagura Reflexions or Nekopara?), the multi-region nature of Switch and full English support in the original game are probably the bottom line here. XD

With so many fighting games on the market I honestly couldn’t care less about DOA or this silly spinoff.

Where’s the current gen’s Ninja Gaiden Koei Tecmo? Pour your resources into that one.

Sad. I want this game, it 's fun. I will try to download it from the Japanese eshop.

In response to a question on Facebook about why Xtreme 3 wont get a western release (some years ago) a representative for Koei Tecmo had this to say: "Do you know many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry? We do not want to talk those things here. But certainly we have gone through in last year or two to come to our decision." So yeah the only reason it wont get released is cause of the backlash the game will receive in the west. Too much negative publicity for a game that wont sell enough to make it even.

@LilDoggo48 I laughed. Much thanks, kind doggo.

@JR150

You do realize it's the right that wants people to adhere to "social norms"

The whole demonization of "SJW" as people put it online is just juvenile & uninformed. Literally what the people you childishly demonize are just fighting for people of all walks of life to be treated with respect. No one is taking your anime boobies away, they are literally easy as fudge to find on the interwebs.

The overzealous Evangelical right however would gladly take away all your porn (so they can hypocritically hog it for themselves) and basically force you to work for pennies till you die among other horrid things.

But yes keep demonizing the people that want humans & society to evolve & become better instead of continuing to devolve. Good grief!

Back on topic however, maybe if you're nice they'll bring a main series game to the system later on.

@patbacknitro18 This decision has nothing to do with Nintendo

@Tupin you're correct. The same people who are here celebrating this game and saying that it's a developers right to make a smutty softcore game are the first to whine when there's a female or gay character in a game.

This is the hill they will die on. A beach volleyball game that hasn't been even moderately good since the PS2 version.

I'm not surprised at all. North America keeps censoring their games and makes them feel bad/judged for their creations. Why would they want to deal with a ratings commission that essentially thinks they are smut?

Luckily, there are websites like Play-Asia that can help you. I wanted all physical X/X-2 so I can grab it there. If you want this game, they will probably have it.

Why!? Are North American's and European's not good enough!? Apparently they don't like money.

@LilDoggo48 the problem is that people need empathy to understand. As long as "what would that feel like to me" never seriously crosses their minds they're just gonna keep on name calling.
Still, the alternative is this place becomes an alt right echo chamber so keep it up! Logic will prevail! Maybe! Eventually!!

@saintayu If they truly just want a smutty softcore game, there's plenty of those. If that is all they wanted, they'd play the tons of anime VNs/dating simulators on Steam. But what they really want is to fight an Internet fight.

@LilDoggo48

I don't know what the "left" or "right" is, nor do I understand what you said. All did was poke fun at the current state of social media and say that it's cool how the English voices allow us to import the game despite that it isn't formally released here. No more, no less.

@Sabroni

Yes, the world is in dire need of more empathy, self reflection and logic. Sadly I don't know if the human race will survive long enough for that to happen.😅

But on a more positive note I'm sure there will be some Volleyball games released on the switch eventually. I mean we got a fishing one recently I believe so other random sports & activities can't be too far behind.

Game is made for the niche and even while fun (there are some nice casino mini games in it) it's not worth the hassle and the outrageous drama on social media for a western release.

Which is a shame, nobody complained about the previous releases in the west of the older games, because people simply said "it's just a game".

At least people can import it, sadly it's expensive but games are always pricey in Japan, sometimes even in asia.

@Heavyarms55 that was also the case with the PS4 and Vita release back then and Koei Tecmo essentially said (but in nicer more polite words) that they won't release the game in the west because of the b****ing on social media by certain groups that don't even game (remember Senran Kagura 2 drama on the 3ds? Koei didn't want that with their game)

@saintayu the Xtreme series never released on the PS2.

For my part they put transgenders and lesbians in the Xtreme series (a gay person would be hard to do in a all girl cast) because honestly I don't care, most people that complain about such people in games have different issues I won't start about here.

Transgender, gay and lesbian people are in real life too so having them in games makes sense for me in certain cases, it's just that japanese devs would take the piss out of such people because of cultural differences but western devs could do it properly if they wanted to.

I'm not saying every game needs them, but certain could like real world based games for example.

All the prudes

@LilDoggo48 just for balance i put over 100 hours into the original on Xbox, I'm not opposed to this sort of game, but it needs to get some male bodies in there if it wants to join us in the 21st century

@RodSD64 you're not a prude? So you agree this game needs males with bouncing crotches for balance?

@Sabroni : That kind of equivalence is disingenuous; that is, conflating women’s breasts with male genitalia (abundantly-sized men are typically blessed with bountiful bosoms too), unless you’re suggesting that games like these should include flappy flaps as well.

@OorWullie even if they are a bit of fun, they are still demeaning to women. Nobody buys these games to just play it’s all about the sexual fantasy. And we’re on the internet so, you know...

@LilDoggo48

This hasn't been true for at least a decade. Social authoritarianism nearly always comes from the far-left in most western countries in 2019.
I haven't heard of an example of christian conservatives trying to get a piece of art banned for years. Whereas I could give you an example of the so called "social justice" people doing it within the last week.

@RadioHedgeFund : I thought it was “empowering” now for women to flaunt themselves in public. How dare you shame these strong, independent, and most importantly, bouncy women from being true to their authentic, genuine, ingenuous, and totally not frivolous selves!

People put far too much effort and thought into this. It really is just a game.

@Dezzy I went to a Madonna concert and there was the Christian right protesting outside. That was 2016. They thought she shouldn't perform in our state and told us we we're going to hell.

Our governor and senators all protested her coming here.

I'm sure if she comes here again it will be the same.

Where is all this ultimately leading us? I wonder how sanitised and sterile our future is going to be? If the ultimate goal is not to offend anyone, we aren’t gonna have much left eventually.

can't you just download it from the japanese eshop?

@Tupin Actually, what they really want is to play DoA x3 scarlet on Switch.

This isn't rocket science. You're the one fighting the internet fight here, and suggesting Steam like it's a solution is... baffling, to say the least.

If we have to go onto political territory it's almost like you're telling them to get the hell away from your platform. Reminiscent of current racial issues in certain countries.

This is about one thing for people who are saddened by this move, and it's that they'd like it to come to the West so they can play it without any unnecessary hassle. Of course the fans will probably just import or download from the Asian eShops. It's great that they get that opportunity at least.

We're all Switch fans. Suggesting moving to a different platform to play other games in the same genre (games other than the game you actually WANT to play) is a ridiculous notion.

@Tupin I can think of a couple reasons people find this game appealing.

@Scottwood101 I guess you can, but you'd be surprised how hardcore of a fan you have to be to venture onto other region's eshops.

This decision marks both a loss in sales and a loss of marketing and recognition for the franchise in the West, and it'll slowly die off or eventually stop including tools for Westerners to enjoy it (e.g. English voice acting or subtitles and menus etc.)

So even if you can continue buying it, it doesn't mean that there is no difference between it releasing in the West or not. There's a huge difference.

I'm not a fan of this particular franchise, but I've had this happen a few times by now, and it always goes the exact same way. Games stop coming, then stop being dubbed, then stop being subbed.

I got tired of it, so I ended up just learning Japanese because why not, I enjoy the JP voice actors' performances the most... usually.

It's an unfortunate situation that the West has been infested by the kind of people that think deciding what others should enjoy is a necessity.

@LilDoggo48 Thanks for accurately pointing out how SJWs are the same as evangelical hypocrites. They will gladly make women lose their jobs due to their puritan ideas of what is "acceptable" (see: grid girls in the UK).

Moral busybodies are a blight regardless of the source of their convictions. Just let people enjoy things, especially adults. "Moral guardians" seem all to eager to treat adults like children.

@SmaggTheSmug Fully agree with what you say. It is downright insane how much they've expanded too. A plague upon the world, for sure.

The Switch is region free. Import it if you want.

In other news, the backwards town where I live had people donning blackface for charity and then everyone up in arms when the money was declined.

I'd much rather that be a game than my real existence lol.

I don't see the problem with things like this personally (as long as there isn't actual abuse or something in the games!)
I just find it embarrassing myself.

That is why you import the collector's edition with the boob mouse mat. ;D

Oh but we can't objectify men for reasons!
I knew empathising would be too tricky for you. And yet when your feelings are hurt cos this game isn't releasing over here we're supposed to care about how you feel about that? Feelings are important when it's a childish pout about where a game is releasing?

Ahh well. I could import, but I probably wont.
Maybe a digital release one day??

"Censorship and deplatforming of anyone that makes me feel insecure is fine, because [insert random, unrelated anecdote of me personally getting offended]." Time to grow up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

With games like Gal Gun and Nights of Azure 2 being available in the west, I don't think we need to be overly concerned about the SJWs coming for our games with bouncing titties in them just yet.

Perhaps it is more likely that they simply declined to release this outside of Japan, as it there is likely only a niche (albeit devoted perhaps) market for it in other territories? It also looks like a pretty bad game in its own right.

Life has issues about sexualisation so art needs to sometimes have it tackle it (like violence?!...) But this isn't about anything in depth or a great well made game, it's about an excuse to see boobs and young girls in suggestive situations. anyone looks fully at their motives for this game, it's that

It’s quite shocking just how conservative NLife has become. Funnily enough, the only ones moaning about SJWs are the ones that actually wanted the Boob Volleyball game. Also, since when was being a Social Justice Warrior a bad thing??? Who doesn’t want social justice? Was Martin Luther King a ‘plague on our society’? Were the suffragettes fighting for the vote ‘feminazis’? It’s naïve and pointless for straight white cis men to get annoyed about a society that’s becoming more accepting. Would you rather live in a society where homosexuality is punishable by death? Only by protest does change happen

That's just 2 bad, the original was I think the best beach volleyball game I ever played!

@saintayu Those protesters should mind their own business and let other people do the same. They can hide in their churches and mosks and sing about obscene fairytales there as much as they want too without people protesting outside, right?

So just to confirm, Mortal Kombat, a game where you get ro ripe someone's spine out is perfectly fine, but a game where women get to wear swimwear and play volleyball is not? What the heck?

It's not like the ESRB / PEGI Ratings don't have a icon that mentions if a game has sexual themes, so if that's not your cup of tea, then don't buy the game.

Oh well, there's always the import option. Although the Dead or Alive Xtreme Series have never been that great to beging with.

@RadioShadow this ‘can’t do that in case you offend somebody somewhere’ modern culture that we’ve got will start coming for the violent games once they’ve rid us of the titty games. It will happen.

Censorship is almost never a good thing. To steal a famous quote. Censorship is like telling a man he can’t order a steak because a baby can’t chew it.

@RadioShadow It's not been banned or censored, the publisher has chosen not to release it. Which presumably means that there was not enough perceived interest from retailers/distributors/consumers.

@nessisonett Sadly not just NL, it's worryingly prevalent in gaming culture, particularly online.

Well, considering sjws are running and gunning in the west, it’s better not getting into all that “controversies” and just move on.

@SegaBlueSky you could argue not bringing it to a territory is the ultimate form of censorship. The uproar it would have caused from a very vocal minority made it not worth the bother.

@SegaBlueSky
That is true, they most likely felt this game won't sell (which I find hard to believe). Even if the publisher does agree to sell it in the USA/Europe/Oceania, they still have to go through the required Video Game Rating companies where they can prevent the game from being sold.

There have been cases where ACB (Australia) refresed to rate Mortal Kombat X, and USK (Germany) refresued to rate Gal*Gun 2, let PEGI (UK / Europe) had no problem at all with the sexual themes. Germany should just use PEGI.

@Bevinator Not really, it's nothing like censorship. It's a financially-motivated business decision dictated by market forces, and nothing to do with prohibiting a certain style of content.

@SegaBlueSky how do you know that it’s purely financial? Big companies worry about PR a lot as well

@RadioShadow It's not that hard to believe - there are a LOT of games out there these days and most don't sell in the numbers you think they will, especially a niche title like this. If it didn't have the DoA license then it would be even more obscure.

And yeah, the German classification board has very different values, but Germany also has different social, political and historical issues than we do. Their problems with extreme right-wing viewpoints is very different, for one thing.

@LilDoggo48 Exactly, if you're desperate to see infantilised anime girlies bouncing about in bikinis then you can still get an import version. Or just cut out the middle man and go straight to PornHub lol.

@Bevinator Because financial gain will always almost always trump PR concerns. The franchise has been around for ages and I've never seen any particular controversy other than "oh look, it's that pervy volleyball game again". If the game would sell in good enough numbers then the publisher would sell it.

This is ridiculous. Since when did people get more offended by fantasy over sexualized women and men rather than realistic blood gore violence and death? I'm not going to lie I love me some fantasy T and A it's far less creepy than oogling a pic of a real woman don't you think? Just like Mortal Kombat is good just because of its violence DOA is only a good fighting game because it used the sexual appeal to make it stand out. Besides isn't T&A way better than blood and gore? If you don't like something don't support it but don't ruin it for everyone else who could care less if it offended your thin skinned sensibilities. (And yes I would not care at all to play this game in public. I'm not ashamed. Why care what everybody else thinks? If you worry about that you'll constantly be worried. In the words of country legend Hank Williams Jr. "Why can't everybody else leave everybody else alone? Hey you do your thing and we'll do our thing too!")

@GameOtaku See above - the game has not been censored. Otherwise the publisher wouldn't be the one behind the decision, it would have been the classification board or Nintendo themselves.

@SegaBlueSky As @Dimi pointed out in a previous comment, a representative for Koei Tecmo basically said on their Facebook page it won't be released in the West due to the backlash it will receive.

The game was going to be censored - at least for the Playstation release (I think the director/producer kept flip flopping on the issue), but it looks like they'll just be avoiding the Western release and the hysterical kotaku op-eds.

I daresay, it would have been denied classification on the UK and certainly Australia anyway.

I'd recommend anyone who's desperate to play this and similar games to consider import sites.

@OorWullie
Over backlash it may receive. If they don't release it here then how would they know? Controversy sells as they should be well aware of especially since that was the main draw of the DOA games anyway with the patented jiggle physics engine.

@OorWullie There's a caveat to that though, that this comment was made several years ago. It may well be factor but there'll be more to it, IMO.

Woo wee, a lot of folks should stop taking a business decision as a slight against their moral fabric. When everything is a crisis, what happens when the building actually is on fire? I heart all of you, but c’mon now.

That being said, cool beans for region-free and having English language. I played one of these on 360 for achievements, terrible plan. There was spreadsheets involved and I was awful at the game.

@nessisonett
Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that. Maybe it's just the ultra hyperpartisan times we live in, but their unthinking parroting of Rightist rhetoric is an embarrassment. Fortunately, I think many of them will grow out of it as they get older and leave their bubbles.

On a related note, I've found it's a pretty safe bet that anyone who mindlessly whines about "SJWs" isn't someone who's going to contribute anything of value to a conversation.

@retro_player_22 dont forget Fatal Frame 2 Crimson Butterlyfly Wiimake!!😁

With all the aggro DoA is getting over a core game lately, this doesnt surprise me.

By adding English option, they have their workaround, it's not hard to import.

I suport this decision. It's the best choice I've seen a gaming company do in a while.

This game is a phedofile dreams.

@BenAV The article says it has English support

Marie Rose really does look like a 12-year-old

@GameOtaku Relax. Just import it

@LilDoggo48 There already is: Voleyball from NES. It’s still awesome to this day.

Meh, people care more about DOA6.

I have my specific... tastes... but bouncy breasts are not it. Is the DOA series good in terms of gameplay even its main feature doesn't scratch your itch?

@SmaggTheSmug I think you just proved far too many adults act far worse then children with that post mate.

To be honest am never much of a fan of fan-service games like this.

@nessisonett I would prefer not to get into the merits of individual campaigns for social justice here. But the term SJW in this context is more of a pejorative. It is used where it is believed that the persons in question have lost their way and are overly obsessed with identity politics, to the point that they are no longer working towards any more noble goal and the effect of their actions restrict more than they liberate. As with so called "feminazis", it is not usually an attack on mainstream movements for equality.

Now obviously there will still be a lot of disagreement as to what is mainstream and benevolent and what is fringe, fanatical and potentially self serving. Which is another subject that I would prefer to avoid getting into here.

But I will say that I fail to see who is liberated or granted equality by needless restriction of escapism in video games.

Yay lets import a copy which will cost us double the price of the RRP thanks to places like PlayAsia ripping us off.

@StinkyHat I mean, you can always just go on the japanese eshop and download it at MSRP. Not that I see what anyone would want to for this game

Having restricted access to a game, however challenging, is never a good thing.

Not everything you dislike is heretical, and those applauding this in the west are the actual reason it will not see a western release, not due to any nondescript "business decision" (as if female breasts in video games, regardless of product quality, only have appeal in eastern markets). You are incapable of experiencing life without feeling personally attacked.

Do not conflate your behavior with the achievements of true agents of positive human rights achievements like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., what you do is nothing more than totalitarianism.

Small fry like sexual video games, books, and artwork to monuments of historical significance such as American Confederate statues are mere blips on the canvas of diverse human experiences that will be censored and removed from our history due to the expanding extremism of modern western liberalism, an unrecognizable corruption of the once-sensible classical liberalism of years past.

@LilDoggo48 You complain about demonization, by demonizing the other side.

American politics 2019.

Darn, now where am I going to find content that buys priceless plausible deniability that I'm not actually watching porn?

Oh, wait, my DoA6 pre-order with "more realistically appropriate costumes" is still confirmed. Carry on.

Seriously, though, while I'm not a fan of these types of games, I find it confusing, the whole social outrage at sexuality condition we have now. In the 19th century, women showing ankles was basically adultery. Self styled "Progressives" brought jazz, flappers, and visible knees in the 1920s. The prior generation was aghast at the degeneracy. The 1960's "Progressives" brought rock & roll, free love, the sexual revolution, where it was no longer taboo to put sexuality right out in the open on display. The prior generation was aghast at the degeneracy. In the 1990's the "Progressives" brought hyper-sexualization of all things, partial nudity on television, full nudity in film and stage, the taboos of indecent language, content, and the realism of sexual content in entertainment, fashion, and the permissibility and encouragement of promiscuous sex became mainstream, and the "right" for women to be be as openly sexual as men were perceived to be. The prior generation was aghast at the degeneracy. And in the '10's, the "Progressives" bring us "metoo", the covering and concealing of skin, the shaming of suggestive content, formalizing behavior to a rigid social standard, and the boxing of sexual content into a forbidden taboo with no place in society. So, basically full circle back to the 19th century. Except our leaders. They fly to Thailand to screw 13 year olds.

I'm more and more convinced that "Progress" doesn't imply an actual direction, it simply means being a contrarian and always trying to inverse the status quo, whatever it may be at a given moment. Disruption for the sake of disruption.

I may have even agreed with them on all this, the return to 19th century values sounds fine to me. But at this point they irritate me so much I want to be against whatever the change crowd is for. Does that make me progressive?

@GameOtaku did you see how people flipped balls about Pyra from Xenoblade 2?

I don't understand was is wrong with people today. It's like bizarro world.

@Heavyarms55 I read something on this site a couple of years ago in which an indie Dev talked quite candidly about all the work that had to be done to release a game on eShop. For instance, in Europe they have multiple counties legislation to meet. Basically, you wouldn't just dump a game on there, you had to be sure it would sell pretty well or you'd lose money. For that you need good publicity and they know that ain't on the table!

@Trajan I am not in the slightest offended by Pyra (and therefore do not understand or condone other people being offended either) but I do find her proportions verge on the comical and there are rather more appealing female characters around, in various states of dress or otherwise.

@Trajan.

Red Skull: Ha Avengers you say I'm a bad guy for wanting to kill millions of innocent people and act like/believe I'm superior to everyone else.

Freakin American politics 2019! I wanna go back to the good ol days when I could harrass and murder people I saw as inferior as I saw fit.

Avengers: Roll Eyes and continue to beat ever loving fudge out of obvious villian, crowd cheers

@NEStalgia literally not what modern progressives are doing at all, but do go on.

Like most actual liberal/progressive people are fine with nudity and even porn! (Hell some draw it) Just not the blatant objectification of women so prolific in many areas of entertainment. There's a difference between sexy & sexist. Sadly very few men in the world seem to be able to comprehend this. So props to the like 10% that do

@LilDoggo48 the old make your opponents look like monsters. People like you are what's wrong with this country.

@Tupin I don't know, the 360 version looked really fun, the jet ski racing in particular, I would have tried it if it didn't have so much "plot".

@Trajan

Yes people wanting....

-LBGTQ Rights
-Womens Rights
-Civil Rights
-Better Education
-Better Healthcare
-Better Pay

Are so soo very bad for this country. Much worse then the side that..

-Sees Women, LBGTQ & Minorities as second class citizens

-Promotes constant racist propaganda

-Wants to force Evangelical Christianity on everyone.

-Puts children in cages

-will literally kill people and the entire plant to make a profit even though money only has value because we silly humans gave it such.

Yes please tell me how the side trying to save you from being destroyed by your own ignorance is worse than the side actually taking advantage of set ignorance to kill us all.

Let's put this way Japan and how they aren't afraid of nudity while the US and maybe EU are so afraid that if you see it you lose your virginity is just about bad as preaching Storks brings you baby. People like to preach about morality but just scratch the surface of those people and they are less then pius themselves. Too many preachers that fail at morality test themselves. Remember all those naysayers saying and trying to link Violent PC/Console games equating to crime/murders was already a busted MYTH. Those with such tendicious would do it regardless. I say to those whom want to preach morality on here let's exam your own pius life in public won't be so pius. Don't buy such games but we all know you will do so under the guise of oh it just a test.

@LilDoggo48 because you are believing things that are not true in an effort to make your opponent look like a monster. Everything you have said is factually incorrect. It would be the same as saying the American left wing wants to bring War Communism to the US.

And don't pull the healthcare thing on me. It was funded by the heathcare companies to force consumers to buy a product at now inflated prices. Thanks for compulsory capitalism! (Now isn't that fascism?)

I'm amazed at how political correctness managed to do something good for once: as in, discouraging regional lockouts.

@LilDoggo48 That is a bit of a straw man you are building there. Careful it does not catch fire on you.

It is possible to be in favour of LBGTQ rights, womens rights. civil rights, better education, better healthcare and better pay (as well as opposing the items on your other list), whilst still opposing some of the more extreme viewpoints espoused by the very far left.

Left and right seem a bit different in America, compared to here in the UK, as US politics seems to be a bit further to the right on average. But I consider myself pretty heavily left leaning and very much in favour of equality and secularism. Yet I still have little time for some of the wingnuts and professional victims who go around bleating about nonsense like "cultural appropriation", etc.

Oh, look, another comment thread on NL fraught with whiny reactionaries angry that their access to digital cheesecake has been slightly reduced. Y'all know Pornhub is free, right? Take a chill-pill and stop pretending anything about your life is being oppressed here.

@Trajan wow. Never thought I'd meet such a loon on a Nintendo forum of all places. But ok. Everything I've said is correct actually and if you got your head of of your arse and watched anything other then alt-right propaganda machines like Fox News you'd know that. Late stage capitalism is literally doing what you right wingers said communism would. Your side buddies up to Authoritarianism & Fascism on a daily basis. But yea, keep believing that precious lie of yours to help you get through the day. Meanwhile the rest of us actual grown-ups will be working to try to save the planet against the monsters you creepily defend.

@WarpSpawn Nah, no straw here. Only facts. And honestly the U.K. seems to have a lot of similar problems as the U.S. these days.

And yea cultural appropriation is actually a thing. May not always be done to the extant some claim but it is indeed a thing that actually exists. Though sometimes it's just something creepy/tactless like some American dude from Arizona or what not trying to act like they're Japanese.

@LilDoggo48 Well no, it was a straw man because of the suggestion that anyone who is opposed to "SJWs" is automatically opposed to any and all equality, decent healthcare, etc. Which is simply not the case. To pick just a couple of people who are notorious in the video game world, does anyone really want to throw their lot in with frauds and professional victims like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian? I am pretty confident that I can feel nothing but contempt for people like them and their enablers, without sending off for an alt-right membership card.

Yes, the UK does have its problems. But my reason for thinking that is that things like universal healthcare and gun control are pretty much universally accepted over here, whereas they appear to remain controversial and extreme to even many on the left in the US. I'd be lying if I said I did not see brexit as an uncomfortable shift to the right though.

I have yet to personally see a valid example of cultural appropriate being a genuine problem. Usually it seems to be trotted out by the perpetually offended, when they see a white person with dreadlocks of wearing an outfit that originates in a different culture.

@LilDoggo48 I love how you have labeled me because I pointed out the flaws on your side assuming that I must be the other side. Lol.

I don't think adults view themselves as superheroes out to defeat enemies they themselves have created.

Its funny to me that people are arguing and fighting over an objectively terrible game, with little to no actual gameplay.
Believe me, I own the PS4 version, this game is trash. You're not really losing much.
Still, its people like @lildoggo48 who are the reason the game isn't coming out over here, constantly screaming about misogyny and objectification.
So men want to dress up women in bikinis and take pictures of them. What is the harm? How does this affect women? It doesn't.

@LilDoggo48 In specific response to what you said in your reply to me, I always am amazed at the attempt to draw a line between "sexuality" and "objectification". Sexuality is inherently objectification. That's the core of what it is. For both sexes. As it relates to this game, it's worth noting that the DoA series, most definitely crosses a line with that objectification, however, it is also an equal opportunity offender. Male characters are most definitely objectified to a similar degree as female characters. If this were Senran Kagura, I could agree with your opinion more readily, that is unequal in application.

More broadly, though, I'd like to point out that, while you say flowery words like "empathy", "reflection", "logic", and "respect", there is one, and only one commenter in this thread demonstrating enormous lack of reflection, empathy, or respect for other posters. While most comments here are either humorous jabs at the immature content of this game, or comments about their opinion of the social agendas behind the exclusion or acceptance of this content, one, and only one commenter is consistently picking arguments with other commenters about their views, speaking down to them, name calling, shaming, and tying unrelated political topics into the conversation to continue to do the above without provocation until provoked.

That commenter is you.

And that is quite the opposite behavior of the "respect", "empathy" and "reflection" you wish to promote.

@Trajan @Mordridakon Wrong again. Most people on the left are fine with sexy, just not sexist. Yes there is a difference.

Sorry but if you can't understand how narrow minded and blatantly evil your side is there's nothing I can do for you. Enjoy that continued projection though.

I don't know how to explain to people it's really not that hard to be a half-way decent human being but I guess most would just prefer to continue to be awful. Welp, I think I've had enough of this frivolous back and fourth. Believe it or not surprisingly enough I actually do have better and at least slightly more productive things to do with my time. Good day all. Be safe out there.

Whatever, just give us a real DOA game already. 6, 5 Ultimate Last Final Punch Fist Edition, or Dimensions 2.

@LilDoggo48 Again, you assume we are on some side. The world is not black and white. You are calling people evil due to misinformation being spread through both sides.

You do know that the russians have organized protests and counter protests across the street from each other. Their goal is to divide, and you are their victim. Don't be close minded. Use your brain.

@Blizzia If I see someone eating a pizza with two pepperoni on the whole thing and saying "man I wish I had more pepperoni," I'm going to suggest they get a different brand of pizza/go to a different shop. If they want pepperoni, there are better places for it that give them a better experience. Get what I'm saying?

Its like owning a bible in the USSR, I want the game purely because it is moral contraband.

Well I just checked up, to get JP cards and buy it off the E-shop cheapest I could find for 7,500yen was £64.99. To order it from Playasia it's £59.99 plus shipping and the risk of customs charges on top. Last time I was charged an extra £12 due to customs charges.

@XxPetriedudexX This series actually hasn’t sold so well since the first game in the West.

Just release it with a mode to oil up Ryu’s abs. Problem solved. Now all the characters are virtual sex objects and people can play a game that barely qualifies as such.

Also this isn't censorship.

For all the talk of PR and not being worth the risk, this move seems to be excellent PR and generating interest in a game that didn't have much before. They may have planned this to get reactionary anti-boob censorship people to buy the game in droves.

No matter where or how you buy the game they still win.

But that doesn't fit the narrative so I'm sure it'll be ignored.

Can we get DOA6 please?

@saintayu

Can you show me a source of the governor and senator protesting madonna coming? That sounds pretty crazy.

I don't write it off as never happening at all. No doubt it does happen from time to time in certain backwater places. And I'm not a member of the "christian right" in any way, so it's not a group I have any interest in defending. But I almost never hear of this sort of thing nowadays.
It certainly almost never happens in western europe.

@LilDoggo48

What's the evidence that Tumblr's change in policy was due to conservatives? Given that only about 8 conservatives use Tumblr or even care about it, this seems highly unlikely to me.

@Dezzy I don't feel comfortable sharing that much information about where I live with a complete stranger on the internet.

I do live in the backwater though. The real backwater. When I was a kid, I lived in a much smaller town than I do now and the KKK used to collect donations in the town square. There's good here too though.

@saintayu

I didn't ask where you lived. I asked for evidence of the governor and senator protesting Madonna playing in the state.
All you need to reveal in order to give that information is which state you live in. Which I think is pretty safe, unless there's a state with about 4 people in it.

@MasterGraveheart it's because liberal ideas have destroyed the west

@LilDoggo48
What is the difference between sexy and sexist?
I think I know what it is, sexist being men enjoying sexy women, but let's hear what your answer is.

@MasterGraveheart probably more of a get it passed by the esrb which will make them censor some costumes and such so it's not worth the hassle for the amount of units it would have sold. I mean its definitely not a million seller in other markets. I doubt it would even sell 10k units Physically or digital.

@Nintendudesid ESRB is probably the most lenient out of all the ratings boards for the most part though.

@Tupin If I see a moron making a bad metaphor that is utterly irrelevant to the topic, should I call him a moron?

We're talking about this specific franchise. Fans of this franchise. Not other franchises or games in this genre. THIS franchise.

The SJW filth win again

@NEStalgia : I couldn't have said it better (or so succinctly) myself. You have absolutely hit the nail on the head and have echoed my sentiments.

I am exhausted by the constant hypocrisy and lack of moral integrity from the left (which I had only briefly addressed in jest in my previous comment as this is hardly the forum to be discussing such topics).

Their weapon of choice is not rationality, reason, scientific/biological evidence, or any form of sensible conversation. When they don't get their way, they cry every disparaging "-ist" under the sun to discredit the other, and the most hilarious (and frustrating) thing, is that despite overwhelming (objective) evidence against their frivolities they hypocritically call others bigots in spite of the definition of the term (and they also love misusing, redefining and/or inventing words to suit their frivolities).

The West is more conservative than the East now, time is really changing.

Yeah they probably didn’t want bad publicity for the switch especially in the us with the mentally challenged leftists that are busy figuring out if the clouds are racist

@Sun-WuGoku sadly Nintendo banks on the system being family friendly so they kinda have to cave or lose consumers Sony and Microsoft wouldn’t have an issue

I really don’t care about these games and would never buy one. I do generally like the idea that people can do what they want as long as it doesn’t harm others (like for reals harm, not just offending) so I wish there wasn’t the moral outrage if they they had brought this over.

Also I find myself very turned off by the ones arguing against this game or games like it (especially the listing out of all the virtuous issues they are fighting for).

Is it possible the next counter culture movement will be against the left? I never thought it possible but I never thought in my lifetime that the puritanical force would be from the left and not the right.

Strange times indeed.

All they have to do to counter the SJW's is adding some male characters with their big D's swinging when they jump up. That would be awesome

It seems a shame not to release it as a download (from the official Euro/US shops), considering how easy technology makes that nowadays. I'm not sure how any backlash could harm Koei Tecmo, considering how the other "erotic" content on the eShop seems to have gone largely unnoticed.

That said, they are not imagining the political climate in the West these days. SJWs have had success by targeting companies not directly involved, ie. "We'll boycott your product if you keep advertising in certain publications". I just don't see how they could get at Koei Tecmo, that's all.

More generally, I just don't understand all this fuss. Every year my local leisure centre hosts the Dreamboys. There are also Butlers in the Buff, and almost every 12-rated film features a gratuitous shirtless male moment, with no equivalent topless female/bikini scene. It seems to me women appreciating the male form is considered harmless, yet men appreciating female figures is "sexist" and "objectification". I don't think women in general have this double standard, but there are those who seem to want to make women more valuable or "forbidden", to some extent.

I'm a little disappointed with this information, but I will just get it from southeast Asia if I want it down the road. I do actually want to play this game.

I have the Japanese collectors edition preordered <3

So when is Dead or Alive Xtreme: Nintendo Edition gonna be a thing? :' )

@MasterGraveheart as a Super Robot Wars fan, I can tell you it's going to be ok lol. Just hit up Amazon or Play Asia. For whatever reason, games that are seen as problematic to release here seem to be getting by under the justification that certain Asian markets view English as a secondary language. Similar to how Spanish is in the US, possibly even more so. So more and more games get English support but have to be imported. I've been doing it a lot lately.

@Tupin I dont know if THIS game is for me, as a large appeal to me was the custom music. But the original game back on Xbox was a super relaxing game for me. Part of it was the custom tracks, and there was some character fanboyism. I'm that rare fan who is less into the boob physics (I prefer the more subdued entries), but has been a Ninja Gaiden fan since the 80s and likes DOA as a spinoff 🤷‍♂️

@Kisame83 If Amazon stocks it, I might just have to do that. It'll be a bit clunky, I imagine, but I'm still interested and, with English support, it'd probably be worth it.

@AstralOrange I dunno if it's an NoA thing or just an "American Conservative Standards" thing. Or, hey, it may be an ESRB thing.

@Sabroni
Well, that would be quite innovative, and it would get a lot of free media coverage.

@AstralOrange Eeeehhhh... I don't think I buy that. There are plenty of games on the eShop that are high in fanservice. Some of them don't even have English in them AT ALL. And while NoA had that distinction in the Wii days, they've seriously laxed. Not saying it's unlikely, because it is, but I think the general American standards of "blood over boobs" is the biggest culprit. Japan tends to give even treatment.