Sony might not be embracing cross-play on the PlayStation 4, but it's certainly open to riding off the success of competitor platforms.
Speaking to Japanese news outlet Nikkei about the Nintendo Switch, Sony Interactive Entertainment Asia president Hiroyuki Oda admit the popularity of the hybrid platform has had a positive influence on the entire games industry:
I’d say it has had an overall positive influence on the entire games market. Gamers want to play various games of various types, so the most important thing is that these people who love games are happy. SIE will play to its strengths by providing games of various genres, including realistic, high-definition games.
A statement such as this isn't all that surprising following news in July the Switch had revitalised the console market in Japan after a 10-year slump.
Key statistics released by Computer Entertainment Supplier’s Association revealed there had been a 22 percent increase in console hardware, software and digital sales in 2017.
What do you think about the president's comment? Would you like to see Sony play ball and enable cross-play? Tell us below.
[source siliconera.com]
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i really hope Sony does something similar. just because the vita failed, doesn't mean we dont want a playstation on the go. in the mid 2000's and all the way to the end of that decade i loved my psp over my ds cause they did it right. i hope they copy switch and make a hybrid system again <3 ^^
Nintendo has always been more concerned creating new ways to play and prioritize fun rather than power. All praise is well-deserved.
@Leanne, Vita failed because Sony killed it. It was a good portable system but they killed it by making propriety storage and that insured it would die. They could've gone MicroSD but no they wanted everything and well you can see the result dying Vita sales even if they put out games for it. Lack of support for the hardware is the fastest way to kill your device.
The Wii, and now the Switch has shown that there's a huge amount if people who just want games to be 'fun' again...and that aiming for everything to be 'realistic and high definition' above all else maybe isn't as important as some people like to convince themselves it is. There's room for both of course, but I've already bought a lot more on the Switch over the past year than I have for my Xbox One or PS4 over the past 4 years. And being able to start a game at home, take it out the dock and play it on the go for a couple of hours during the day while I'm out and then immediately return to it on my TV later is a huge plus.
@EchoNemesis Nintendo has always been more concerned creating new ways to play and prioritize fun rather than power.
Only if you think Nintendo's first console was the Wii. The SNES was more powerful than the Genesis (Mega Drive), N64 more powerful than the Playstation and the Gamecube more powerful than the PS2.
The Wii is where they started with the weak hardware.
Sony is unlikely to have had a console division in the first place if it wasn't for Nintendo, so they can never really be mad at them, I think. At least not at home in Japan.
And Sony is always there to take the tweenagers by the hand and lead them through their too-cool-for-Nintendo years.
@Leanne I would also love to see another portable from Sony, but I feel with their home consoles becoming ever more powerful and requiring bigger and bigger investments in money, time and man power, trying to also then support a handheld will be too much.
@Crono1973 At this point you're right. Satoru Iwata wanted a more affordable platform but it don't take the merit of Nintendo to stand out with its creativity.
That man looks like my grandpa, lol. But the vita is an amazing thing. My favorite game of all time is on there and only there.
In the alternate reality where this would be possible, I would definitely want Metal Gear Solid 1-4 on Switch. Also, Katamari, Flower, Journey, Little Big Planet, Tearaway, LocoRoco, and Shadow of the Colossus. Happy that Okami is at least available to Switch owners.
@Leanne The psp go also failed. I personally think it would be cool if Sony and Nintendo partnered on a device and software. That’s probably a unpopular opinion tho.
@Balchad and what would your favourite game of all time be?
@TromaDogg Yes, but Nintendo should've pushed a little more like the 8gb ram memory. It would've made it more appealing. But the movement in technology isn't that big tbh. Still a lot 30fps games... even at 720p some games. But hey each his own. I play heavy games on my PC anyway
@EightBitMan Sony has PS1 Classics on the Vita as well as PSP games, Switch doesn't even have a Virtual Console. In fact, I am currently playing Chrono Cross on my Vita and PS3 (transferring the save).
Sony? Oh yeah, they made some good VCRs in the past.
@faint They tried that already remember? But hey Sony got their playstation brand out of the whole debacle.
Easy to be cool about the competition when it has done little to your sales and profits 😏
Switch + PS4 (or PC if you have the cash) is the perfect combo right now. Sales keep showing that. Nintendo made the "VITA 2" we all wanted SONY to make. Good times
@LukeNI Freedom Wars. I never could get into any Monster Hunter game so I was hesitant on getting Freedom Wars but boy was it worth it. It's one of the few games I have over 150hrs in it. Like I can just never get bored of it and I even got up to 99% of the achievements. Only missing two which was one which was locked to Japan only and the last one was getting all achievements. Been waiting 3 years for a sequel but at least I got their next game which is God Eater 3.
I’m sure Sony will release a similar hybrid system eventually. And I’m sure I’ll buy it, because I loved the Vita.
And if they don’t I’ll be more than happy as well, because the Switch is my alltime favorite system.
If there was a handeled PS device within 2 years with PS4’s performance and all it’s games, Sony would be drowning in money.
@Pod Lol, I’ve never had my “too cool for Nintendo” years. For me, it was (and still is) “I’ll show everyone how cool Nintendo can be”.
On the subject of Sony making another portable gaming device, i thought about it and i see only one way they could do it without it failing. Especially with the Switch already on the market.
So hear me out here...
Sony have 3 options available to them if they tried portable again, but only one will work for them. In terms of what they could do with the hardware.
Option 1 won't work: Make the handheld more powerful than the Switch... If it's even possible to make a portable gaming device more powerful than the Switch, at a realistic price point, with fair battery life...
(its not feasible - the cost of it and the battery life would make it impossible to identify as a real hand held... If one bus trip kills your battery, on a £400+ portable gaming device, thats a no seller). -
Also it would throw up the question on just how powerful they could make it? Would it run PS4 games? If so will that eat the PS4's market? Or will they let it die because they can't risk exclusive support on a portable with no user base while tbe ps4 will be at 90m+ and PS5 on the horizon by that point.
Its actually pritty much what happened with the Vita... Sony just couldn't take the risk to support the portable device when they where still working on PS3 games and attempting to build a PS4 user base it would be the same again if they tried with another high powered portable this gen.
Option 2 won't work: Make the portable device as powerful as the Switch - the simple issue here is that the Switch is on the market with a huge lead, Sony would forever be on the back foot here.
Option 3 could work: This is their only option... Is to take the low end hardware market thats really covered by the aging 3DS... If Sony release a portable PS2 (essentially another PSP) with much better bells and whistles... Remastered PS2 classics with online play ect... That will work for them.
That would actually sell like hot cakes.
I wish Sony would "play by its strengths" and release a proper Vita successor -a dedicated HD handheld system- instead of a hybrid like some comments here have mentioned. You can't do hybrid without sacrificing (home console) power, which is what Sony's all about.
The Switch is priced like a home console and the 3DS is entry-level hardware, the gap is right there for someone to cash-in. A "PS4 Portable" at less than $250 would be godsent. edit: Oh, and they could launch it with Persona 5: (Shade Of Red) and job would be done.
In 2022 from now, I don't think Sony PlayStation 5 took design project of Nintendo Switch. However, Competitor ruined Handheld Gaming Console. According to Copyright Patent Product. What if Sony might be sued Nintendo Product. "This is Scenario of Console Wars".
If Sony made another portable I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. After the way they 100% dropped support for the Vita half way through its life, and relied on 3rd parties to support their system every since, I would not trust them at all with a new handheld. Unlike Nintendo, who supports their products until the dying end, Sony will completely abandon their own products the moment they fail to meet profit predictions, regardless of how it affects their customers. Screw that. Sony would have to show me years and years of dedicated AAA support for a handheld before I would even acknowledge another portable system from them.
@Balchad I wasn't expecting you to mention freedom wars. Infact I've never heard anyone praising it so much. I thought it was a good game of what I played of it. It was definitely right up there in terms of graphics and I loved the Lost Planet style grappling hook.
I would've played alot more of that game if my saved file hadn't gone corrupt on me. The only thing putting me off restarting it was all of the dialogue.
@EightBitMan The Vita hardware was NOT solid. Those stupid touch screen buttons on the back. And no L3 and R3 buttons. Please..
I owned 2 Vitas over the years, both the original OLED and the newer version... they both sucked.
@EightBitMan you don't even own a Switch. Troll.
You lie so hard it's unreal... You enjoyed the over priced SD cards too?
But what am i talking about... You probably never owned a Vita either, you don't actually know what portable gaming is.
@bratzdoll LMFAO... A portable PS4 for the same price as its console counterpart?
Battery would last 10 mins.
It wouldn't cost the same... At all... Ever... To get that tech portable would cost stupid money... Upwards of £450 AT LEAST.
@TromaDogg No it's still important.
Look at games like Cyberpunk 2077. The hype is real.
If anything there needs to be a better balance of all these stupid only online multiplayer games.
@Razer I don't think a portable needs 4K, if that's what you mean. A slightly more powerful but portable-only Switch is what I had in mind, somewhere between option A and option B from your original comment. Think the Switch running Monster Hunter World (edited the example) at 720p portable, that's the sweet spot. I'd say that should doable by 2019-2020 and within that price point. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking talking.
FWIW I do expect the Switch "Pro" to get there whenever it rolls out.
@Razer please tell me what personal opinions I should form and which of my personal tastes are wrong too
I prefer handheld gaming and before Switch, the Vita was my favorite console, design wise. It has amazing battery life, great controls, the analog sticks are in the right place, the D-Pad is even pretty good and it was backwards compatible with digital PSOne games. I would love it if Sony gave the handheld market another go, but lose the proprietary storage format, make the device a bit bigger physically (it doesn't need to be Switch huge) and actually support it.
@Frendo and it was just because it had a DVD player built in.
@Pod: Your last sentence brought to mind a mental image of some tween playing CoD and swearing into his headset, all while Justin Bieber is playing in the background....
@faint Hey, I'd buy a 4K remaster of Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 in a heartbeat...
I read the article, I read the comments. What I'm surprised I didn't find here us any comment regarding the OTHER news about what Sony CEO (Yoshida) just said about cross-play.
"On cross-platform, our way of thinking is always that PlayStation is the best place to play. Fortnite, I believe, partnered with PlayStation 4 is the best experience for users, that's our belief,"
Look for this and more comments. The news is easy to find since it's been out for 2 days already.
"certainly open to riding off the success of competitor platforms"
I don't see anywhere in the provided quote where he mentioned riding off the success of either Nintendo or Microsoft. In fact, all it says is they will continue to play to THEIR strengths, and they're glad other platforms exist for multiple genres of games to exist. Seriously, is this guy really this desperate to create clickbait?
I really hope Nintendo stays on this road and sony stays in the Homeconsole as for Microsoft. I will never buy another hybrid console. And for Homeconsole its still a battle between Microsoft and sony.
@LukeNI Yup, out of the hundreds (I have seriously hundreds...) of games I have on Steam, PS4, Switch, and Vita the Vita Freedom Wars and God Eater series are my most favorite games. I also lost everything due to corrupted saves :c but my memories of that game will forever stay with me.
Healthy market is good for everybody.
@bratzdoll well thats just it... By the time Sony gets around to making something thats only slightly more powerful than the Switch, they will still be faced with problem 2 that i mentioned in my post.
The Switch pro will be there with a huge market lead... Nintendo could easily lock meaningful 3rd party handheld support to its own console with that sort of a lead.
If you read my post above yours, option 3 is their only viable option.
A portable ps4 that can actually last and will be marketable to the public at a decent price point will probably be feasible around 2021 or 2022.
I think many people just dont understand how the huge leap from being able to play games through a 3rd party set up (TV to Console to Controller to you... This is a 3rd party set up that requires a TV to work) to going to a single party set up (screen is on the device with console and controller in one)
Just think about it this way.... putting a tv and ps4 into a box that can fit in your hand and has controllers attached to it...
The Switch now is essentially twice as powerful PS3's... The PS4 is about 4 times as powerful... Should give you an idea of what a portable PS4 would cost if the Switch costs this much.
Gone are the days where people would pay for 450+ consoles and more for games... Infact that actually happened once and it didn't work (PS3)
So Sony could do a portable PS4 probably by 2022 (4 years away) By which point they are up against the Switch 2 which will drop prob in 2023...
Oh look people are already being called trolls for disagreeing with "someone".
Sony does what they do well. Love people acting like the Vita was the only game system that got support dropped for it quickly coughWiiUcough
I would love to also have a Sony handheld or for that matter a Microsoft one even just because Nintendo games aren't the only games I enjoy playing portably great as they can be.
So basicly he said "it's great that there are games for families, if you want real games, buy a PS4.". I'm so sick of hearing people say that Nintendo games aren't true games. I think people have kinda lost that idea that games can be something other then gritty shooters full of violence. That's one of the reasons I love Nintendo. They feel like one of the only companies who really take advantage of the medium to be really creative.
@AxeltheBuizel well no... What he actually said was
"Nintendo are doing well providing for the portable and classic gaming market, gamers want all sorts of games, we will continue to focus on the high end home console market"
That's how i heard it... I read it again right now 3 more times and that is pritty much what he says.
@saintayu Dude... Sony never actually supported the Vita in any meaningful way. Any support they did get was axed after less than 2 years.
WiiU had like 4 years of support before it was axed. Honestly, Axing support after 4 years was the last of the problems that plagued the WiiU.
And the person who was called a troll lies from post to post... One day he doesn't own a Switch because its "under powered garbage"... The next day the Vita is better than the Switch (even though he has no Switch) and is less powerful... Then other days he doesn't understand portable gaming... but yet now he owned the Vita? The inconsistency with @EightBitMan's rubbish is well documented.
You actually sitting there trying to tell me that isn't trolling?
If Sony makes a hybrid console, then it might as well be the PS5. No point in having a home console and a hybrid. The hybrid would also have to be about as powerful as a PS4 to make sense, and it wouldn't be cheap anytime soon. With Sony's business model at the moment, a hybrid is unlikely. That could change, but it doesn't really fit with the market now.
Pretty honest coming from the competition, but I think the video game console market is generally not too nasty towards each other (besides the early days). Why are the competitors friendlier nowadays?
It's nice to see companies like Sony and Nintendo being homies:)
@CheepCheepAngler because the gaming market is now too big for any one of them to fill on their own.
Plus monopolies are never good... You need competition as it drives quality and to work hard on your own product.
The early days were different because market trends were different... If either Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo stopped making games, it would be a sad day for allll of us.
Every single gamer and developer would be sad and it would have a long term detrimental effect on the market.
Essentially another Sega cannot be allowed to happen.
@EightBitMan
Too bad Sony stopped supporting the "amazing" Vita after ~3 years on the market and forced anyone who wanted a portable PlayStation experience to forget about it and buy a PS4 instead.
The "Nintendo is definitely doomed" Wii U got infinitely more support than the Vita, despite selling slightly less, yet people like you will praise the Vita anyways because "da hardware looks cewl".
BTW I thought you only played PC games and didn't care about dedicated game systems, let alone a long abandoned 6+ year old portable system.
Hypocrisy and fraudulance at its finest.
This is what alot of Vita chimmers want to think that Sony still supports it but they more or less with their own actions killed it. If the company doesn't support it and makes high priced proprietary storage how long do you think this will be koolaid not very long once gamer release how much is that RAM. NIN was always innovative and risk taking and a hybrid NSW is what they developed if you wanted a mobile 1080Ti power the portable would be on fire literally in hand held mode and the Dock would melt from the 1080i or 4K running. There are thermal dynamics that come into play the smaller you get and I think Nintendo found that out when creating the Nintendo NX and designed it so it could do 720 to 1080TV docked. That is what I call innovation and thinking outside of the box. Some want to still say NSW is underpowered but when asked what else can do like the NSW they use PS4 Pro talking points and I am like only a Troll would go that route and not notice you can't take PS4 on the road in your car and play at the same time. But the NSW goes on the road and if you carry the dock - dock and play 1080TV. Something PS4 sorely missed out on and will come to regret as sales and indie and Brand name gaming industry giants are realizing making games for Nintendo is profitable again and if it becomes Physical even more.
@DockEllisD Thanks bro 😎.
The Wii U had plenty of faults, but Nintendo dropping support for it quickly is not one of them.
@Yasume Good to see you've warmed to the Switch,so much so that you've called it your all time favourite system.I remember you being quite critical of it after its reveal and opening months on the market.
@DockEllisD Lol, agreed. It's good to have Razor around when your shaver acts up:)
@Ryu_Niiyama I know this, but would also argue they are different companies in a changing market. I think it could work now.
@Razer
Thanks dude, that makes sense to me.
I played Hollow Knight on the crapper today. That is all you need to know to know why the Switch is successful.
@justin233 ah Journey would be an instant d1 for me. Wonder if Starting a petition would help ?
@TheDanslator I played Hollow Knight on the crapper today. That is all you need to know to know why the Switch is successful.
Is it Hollow Knight that makes the Switch successful or that you played a game on the toilet because I played Chrono Cross on the toilet too.
Is this your first handheld?
@TromaDogg Going to have to disagree about the Wii part. The whole thing with that was the motion control gimmick that got people onboard. The Switch on the other hand has definitely been about games and the simple fact of playing them anywhere.
@Crono1973
Sometimes things are jokes.
@HollowGrapeJ The Switch on the other hand has definitely been about games and the simple fact of playing them anywhere.
Same with the Game Boy and DS lines.
@Flowerlark
If I could play games like Dragon Age Inquisition, Horizon, Infamous, FFXV, Tales of Zestiria / Berseria on a portable, I'd be in gamer heaven
It's already here.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-2-handheld-game-console-for-aaa-games--2#/
I'm playing Dragon Age, Tales of Berseria, Final Fantasy X, XII and XIII (haven't tried XV), Dragons Dogma, Bioshock Infinite, Ni No Kuni 2, etc etc etc.
@Crono1973
It's not "playing games anywhere". Because handhelds have always existed.
It's playing home console games anywhere, and games only released on home consoles, and the fact they're playable portably AND on the TV without having to run cables out of the device. It's instant. It's home console. And it's portable. And it brings home console games to handheld land, and it brings handheld games to home console land.
That is why. It's not portability at all. It's home console game portability, while still retaining TV play of said home console games, and the ability to transition instantaneously.
@JaxonH So kind of like playing PS1 Classics on the PSP/Vita and also on the PS1, PS2, PS3 and PSTV?
@Crono1973
No, nothing like that at all. PSone classics are akin to playing SNES games on the TV. It's great don't get me wrong, but it's absolutely unrelated.
If the appeal was playing retro games portably, then I would've said "playing retro games".
@JaxonH PS1 Classics on the PSP/Vita isn't like playing SNES games on the TV. They are like playing console games on a portable device and there is cross save between the PS3, PSP, PS Vita and PSTV so you can go back and forth from the TV to the portable device.
I know some of you think Nintendo has created something brand new here but all they did was take the PSP/PS3 idea a step further. I would think that by now people would be over their 'awe'.
@JaxonH Technically, we aren't there yet. That looks like a good piece of hardware, but that is literally a portable PC and not a dedicated gaming console. It's even priced like one too.
@Crono1973
They are like playing 16-32 bit games on a portable device... not even remotely the same.
And that's why nobody went out and bought a Vita. Because "playing PS1 games" isn't the same thing as "playing modern games releasing on PS4". It's just not. And anyone who tries to argue it is is either too stupid to understand the difference or too blinded by their fanboyism. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and chalk it up to being misinformed.
It doesn't matter if it's "something new". What matters is that it's something that was not previously being offered and now is being offered, and it's something that people really want. The PSP and PS3 idea was great, but it failed. Because it didn't deliver.
So if your argument is that people shouldn't be in awe because Sony failed at streaming console games, then I would say you don't have an argument at all. If you're jealous the Nintendo succeeded where they failed and they are now getting the praise that you think Sony should've had, then I can only say tough luck.
@HollowGrapeJ
Ya it's definitely expensive, and as such puts it out of reach from your normal day-to-day gamer, but if you are in enthusiast like me and really appreciates console gaming on a portable device, and you don't mind paying a little bit of money to get it, it's a fantastic handheld.
Like, playing Wolfenstein New Order in 720p medium settings on a handheld is just mind blowing. And the best thing is, cloud saves from Steam means you can also continue playing on the TV with a desktop PC, so it sort of makes a hybrid set up. A very expensive hybrid set up that requires a desktop gaming PC and a $650 handheld, but it sure is nice!
@JaxonH People pretending to be in awe because they can sit on the toilet playing a 2D game is just too much BS for me.
@Crono1973 When did the OP say that (s)he was in awe?
@Mrtoad It's the word I chose to describe people who are impressed that they can play games on the toilet.
@Crono1973
The fact it bothers you speaks volumes about your mindset. With all due respect, it's none of your business if people are in awe or not. You have no authority to say what people are or are not pretending, because you haven't the slightest clue as to other people's motives.
It's not just about the toilet, which I explained in the first reply. The toilet comments are simply a shorthand way of embodying the spirit of playing modern console games whenever you want and however you want. Home console, check. HD Handheld, check. Portable home console, check. Single player or online, check. Local wireless MP anywhere because it comes with 2 controllers at all times, check. Even on the toilet... check.
Hence the shorthand, I can play it on the toilet. It doesn't mean that is literally the reason people are excited, it simply gives an extreme case scenario of the types of situations it can accommodate, which is why people are excited.
@Crono1973 The ignorance in your post is unreal. Who are you to dicate what others enjoy?
FYI the Vita was essentially a handheld PS3. The reason it failed is 100% down to Sony not utilizing its power to bring PS3 level gaming on a portable device.
There are other reasons behind WHY they didn't utilize it. But that's another subject.
@JaxonH Pretty sure we have been hearing about how great the Switch is because it's portable since it came out. Portable isn't anything special for people who have been playing on The GB and DS Lines as well as the Sony portables.
@Crono1973
Each to their own, but playing games like BotW, Odyssey, Doom, Skyrim, Wolf2(AAA console experiences) on the go is awesome. Again, each to their own and if you can't see it, that's fine but it's definitely not BS.
@Crono1973 I've been playing portable for since Gb...had all since including the neo geo.
I cannot own consoles or pc's because i live on a canal boat... My only option is portable.
Portable is a VERY big deal to me...
@Razer Who are you to dicate what others enjoy? I just object to people who pretend that they have never been able to play on the toilet before.
@Crono1973
“I played Hollow Knight on the crapper today. That is all you need to know to know why the Switch is successful.”
There are no synonyms for “impressed” or “awe” in that statement.
Ok, you folks carry on with your Switch worship again today like you do every day. I will leave you to your service.
@Crono1973
“I just object to people who pretend that they have never been able to play on the toilet before.”
Wow! You can read the OP’s mind?
@Crono1973 well yeah portability has been around for ages... That much is true.
But its also true that it has never been on this quality...
Sony had the chance to do something similar 6 years ago with the Vita but that boat has sailed now.
True that portability has always been here. But also true that its never been close to this level.
@Crono1973
What people mean by that is "modern games releasing on home consoles and not 3DS/Vita, I can play those games portably, in HD, and also still play them as home console games".
But for some maybe it IS just playing console games in HD portable mode. Either way it's none of your business what people like or get excited for. Your life is in no way impacted by what other people are enjoying.
Crono “Can’t think of any valid arguments so insult everyone and leave” 1973
@Crono1973 well your argument for the Switch "being nothing special because of portability", falls flat every single time you try and use it... So we will indeed ignore you and carry on enjoying 👍.
Time to stop and move on. You are in a losing battle.
These comments are always a joy to read
@JaxonH Yeah, although I suppose that is a good alternative. PC gaming is the best imo. So a portable device that gives you access to Steam's massive library as well as everything else is great.
It's a shame the Switch is not going to be the one to play the majority of AAA releases, but for what it is, it's fine.
@iLikeUrAttitude Lol, you made my day(or night rather). From what i'm reading, Crono is the comedianXD
@KIRO Have you played Flower? Both are great and I’d LOVE them on Switch. Start the petition - I’ll definitely sign!
"SIE will play to its strengths by providing games of various genres, including realistic, high-definition games."
Sony is very clear about that: unlike Nintendo their strength is realistic HD games.
@SethNintendo Wannabe PC is that box with a X. They even share the same games.
@TromaDogg to the post #5: well said.
@SethNintendo With a PC you won't be able to play The Last of Us, Spiderman, God of War, Detroit, Horizon Zero Dawn, Dreams, Death Stranding, etc. You don't need the fastest hardware to brute force realism. Sony owns movie and music studios, they can pull talents to make realistic looking narrative games.
@SethNintendo You are off topic, what I said was a response to:
"SIE will play to its strengths by providing games of various genres, including realistic, high-definition games."
No one is talking about playing Civilisation on PC. PS4 clearly has realistic looking graphic when compared to Switch. Look at Detroit, not even PC games have characters that look as good.
Sony cross play? Never.
Switch online is the worst. You don't even need to play Fortnite, you can just wait and all the players disconnect by themselve. Same for Splatoon and same with Puyo Puyo Tetris.
@SethNintendo You said PC has the best graphics and gameplay is better than graphics. So if you don't care about graphics then why buy a PC?
@westman98 @Razer Yeah, obvious troll is obvious. AteS**tMan just changes his story around to fit his agenda: that Nintendo is crap.
Why can't folks just enjoy the stuff they like and stop hating on other peoples preferences? Why do we always need to compare different systems on such a low level? It's so strange... I wouldn't dream on going to a PS site for example, crapping on their products.
Edit: I would love for Sony to make another handheld. I never owned a portable PS system, but as a handheld collector, I'm thinking about buying a PSP.
@OorWullie Yes, I was. I didn’t have a Switch at that point and I didn’t expect it to be a success in any shape or form.
Lesson learned though, don’t judge a book by its cover. The hardware is great and it managed to establish a fantastic library in 1.5 years on the market.
Hope you are enjoying it as much as I am.
@SwitchForce Why would Sony want to kill the Vita? It was the best system to sell japanese videogames. Why would Sony want to destroy the japanese industry?
@Nincompoop From Sony's own website: "PlayStation exclusives on your PC. PS Now is the only place to play incredible PlayStation exclusives on your PC - games like The Last of Us, the Uncharted series, God of War, Beyond: Two Souls, Killzone and ICO and Shadow of the Colossus in HD are all waiting for you to play instantly."
So yeah, you won't play them the moment they come out, but 1-2-3 years down the line, you will.
@gortsi That is cloud streaming moron, you won't get the same quality.
@Nincompoop there is a download option coming, idiot. Read up
@Crono1973 Its actually very special when you can play Doom Eternal and Smash Ultimate on the go, without some crappy streaming tactic, just full console experiences, why dies this not impress you? It's NEVER been done...
@gortsi Really? LOL where?
praising it today. replicating it tomorrow
@SethNintendo the real reason behind Sony selling off their PC'S is a little murky and has a lot to do with the OS on computers and where 90% of them come from.
Long story:
the official reason behind selling off their PC line was Microsoft's linking of all their games so you could play on PC ect... But who cut who off was never mentioned by either party.
Sony said they didn't want a competitors software played on their hardware because the hardware uses Windows and the PS brand was worth more to them than their PC brand.
This is actually just rubbish, most Sony fansites will say this to save face... If you could play Xbox games on a Sony PC and have a PS4 too... Sony would have owned 2/3rds of the gaming market. They know this... But so does Microsoft. Theres no way Sony didn't want that.
The real reason is Microsoft wouldn't allow their OS on Sony's hardware anymore... Especially after E3 but mostly because they didn't want their games played on Sony hardware...
If Sony PC's could play Xbox games... This is what would have happened:
Their PC line would explode into the PC gaming scene... Sony could easily brute force its way into that. They have the money.
Within 3 years some 50% of PC'S on the market would be Sony branded... Due to the popularity around them... Even normal non gamers would be buying them.
This would allow Sony to have leverage on Microsoft with their hardware being the main income for Microsoft's OS (PS4 is Sony's biggest cash cow... But Windows is Microsoft's).
Sony would be able to dicate to Microsoft what they want updates on their OS to be ect....
That scenario doesn't include whats already happened with the Xbox one and PS4 (Xbox got its ass handed to it).
This would actually kill Microsoft as we know it. within 10 to 15 years they'd have been a Sony division. Creating Sony's OS for all their hardware. Microsoft's business analysts saw this coming and they quietly pulled the plug on Sony PC's.
Edit: too add to this, think about why no PC hardware developers have ever grown bigger than Microsoft? The reason behind this is Microsoft wouldn't let it happen. It would give that hardware dev leverage over Microsoft... Microsoft know this and they ensure through investments or in Sony's case, cut off's to guarantee it never happens.
@Nincompoop http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/06/19/report-playstation-now-download-coming-later-this-year/
Great news. However I will be very interesting to see if in near future some Chinese electronics company like Xiaomi delve into the gaming console market. So far they have released extremely decent phones so maybe they decide to invest in gaming consoles as well. Then the shape of the Asian market will really change!
@gortsi LOL The article said it's a rumour, it's written 3 months ago.
"If Sony does intend to release this feature in September, it’s a bit odd that the announcement missed their E3 showcase."
And it never mentioned PC once. You're a nutcase.
Edit: Sony could do this, but the download is only for PS4. The reason they would attempt this is because of Nintendo paid online: which could be expanded to subscription based model like Spotify or Netflix. Miyamoto spoken about this recently (on purpose).
@Nincompoop You can insult me behind the keyboard all you want, just be careful your nails don't break by pushing the buttons too hard, I know mani-pedis are expensive for you ladies these days. The service is the exact same thing across PC and PS4 so if it's going to be implemented it'll be for both. And the reason they would do this is the Game Pass, not Nintendo.
@gortsi LOL How's the PC going to run PS4 games? You think Sony is going to make an emulator for PC?
@Nincompoop lol idk since you're a sony pony you can ask them yourself. My original point still stands, you said somebody with a PC can't play Sony exclusives, which is not true, whether you're streaming the games or you've downloaded to your PC/console. People on PC are playing the Last of Us and Uncharted, the fact that they are streamed is irrelevant. Just like most of your comments
@gortsi LOL so you only just realised how dumb you looked when you said Sony is offering download for PC? I have been trolling you the whole time for you to make a fool of yourself.
dude seriously how old are you? When did I say that? I said they MIGHT offer it soon, I just don't understand how someone as stupid as yourself is allowed to comment here.
@Nincompoop
You were a Troll here since long time ago.
Hush your Nonsense talking.
@bitleman , you have very little memory here Sony stopped support which more or less means they killed it. Was that clear enough. If not your already a lost cause. If it doesn't sell in NA that esentials means a end of life product. As they have no new Vita for the market that was evidence enough.
@Crono1973 After seeing this comment, now your reply to me on the other article makes all the more sense.
@Crono1973
While it's true that those machines were also powerful for their time, all of them reinvented form factor and controller functionality as well.
And all of them aimed to be affordable for families, instead of aiming squarely at impressive technology.
@EightBitMan Is your book "How to Troll Ineffectively"?
@SethNintendo Merry Xmas already? I am just having fun with you, relax. There's more to life than games you know? I like to troll here because Nintendo gamers are like Apple users, very serious about their brand and therefore fun to play with. LOL.
@gortsi Same with you, another one who bites the bait so willingly for Nintendo.
@Nincompoop Nintendo is the opposite of Apple. They're centered around being a content maker and don't follow a dictatorship of "cool". There's a videogame fanbase who loves to talk about the cool design of their consoles or their cool ads and it's not Nintendo's.
@bitleman Did you failed your English comprehension test? I said Nintendo gamers not Nintendo as a company, I am talking about people like you who will come to Nintendo's defence just like Apple fans.
@Nincompoop Lol where did you see I was defending Nintendo? I want Nintendo to sink so the rest of the japanese industry will follow quickly.
@bitleman You should support North Korea, they will sink Japan eventually.
@Yasume I am indeed, superb console. I've been a little disappointed with Nintendo's output this year but with all the great indies and arcade games I can't complain. Cheers!
@Nincompoop Nope, American videogames will
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