@SuperCharr Youre missing the bigger picture. Youve been a Nintendo fan for 25 years so youre prob in your 30s. Youre not gonna be around forever and Nintendos continued success cant solely rely on existing customers. Through animated movies and theme parks future generations buy in to Mario and co and thos can translate into more people buying Nintendo products giving them the resources to keep making the games we like and their success will see a conti ued contribution from 3rd parties who cant ignore successful install base.
@Mr-Fuggles777 Without being a developer we cant really make those kind of assumptions. The fact that its on rails has already been taken advantage of in other areas of the graphical make up through far better image quality and geometry than any other Pokemon game before it. But things such as fur shaders sap bandwith and as i mentioned previously theres precedence for such effects to be left out of Switch titles as we are dealing with whats effectively mobile hardware.
@Mr-Fuggles777 The Switch GPU is very bandwidth limited so something like fur effects could effect the framerate given the good level of detail in other aspects of the games graphical makeup. Its one of the reasons the Donkey Kong character model in Smash Bros Ultimate lost the fur shader the Wii U one had.
@Snatcher Ok course they will, just not for the current Switch which is good as id prefer a MK9 on the Switchs successor wth improved visuals, physics, A.I and track complexity all things that require more capable hardware. Any release on the current Switch wouldnt be distinct enough from MK8D making it pointless.
Id rather the Mario Kart team focus resources on making MK9 as good as it can be instead of splitting time and manpower on DLC for a launch window game.
Forget a Switch Pro. I just want them to release a Switch 2 in 2023.
Undocked in between a PS4 and a PS4 Pro graphics wise. Docked on par with a PS4 Pro but with added DLSS for image quality more in line with current gen consoles.
CPU would need to be 8 core minimum and be on par with Xbox series S in terms of capability to ensure a steady stream of ports throughout its lifetime.
720p OLED. This would be fine for handheld. Just the Switch to OLED would bring a marked improvement in clarity and contrast. Plus sticking to 720 would mean improved battery life plus all of the extra GPU grunt would have less of an issue keeping titles at native resolution in handheld mode.
Improved Joycons and haptic feedback, as well as a proper D-pad!
@Strictlystyles Support him by withholding your money thereby encouraging him to make great games, not by buying his duds. What's the incentive for him to do better if you incentivize his mediocrity?
@foobarbaz I disagree. The artstyles are agreed and created to accommodate the technical makeup of the system theyre on. Was HD a waste when Nintendos hardware was the standard def Wii? Of course not. Nintendo work with what they have. When Nintendo moved to the Wii U they adapted their artstle and assets accordingly.
When Nintendo eventually move on to hardware that has 4K and raytracing capability then again their art style will adapt,
We shouldnt rubbish or demean the value of great technological developments just because theyre beyond the capabilities of our chosen systems. Lets be objective.
@nab1 Agreed. BOTWs art style was made to accommodate the technical capacity of the Wii U hardware. By simply increasing the resolution without doing any tinkering with the lighting model, special effects or textures it doesnt look as good as it could and if anything makes the game look nice but slightly off as the assets were never designed to be displayed at such a high resolution.
@Dm9982 Thats a premature assessment. Its way too early in this gen to say the gaps small as we're in a transitional period of cross gen titles and developers still learning to use the new hardware and adjust their engines accordingly.
At the start of last gen people were saying the same thing you are now, that there isnt a big gap between PS3 and PS4 but shortly afterwards it became quite apparent that just wasnt true when developers got to grips with the new hardware.
Similarly, the gap between current gen and last gen will begin to widen as the gen progresses. Its like at the start of each gen everyone consistently forgets the lessons learned and the precedence set in previous generations.
Im thinking people are getting confused between rumours regarding the Switch revision and rumours about the Switch follow up. Im expecting a Switch revision this year with a 720p OLED and a version of Tegra X1 on a more advanced process node so maybe 7nm (down from 16nm.) This would allow them to use higher clock speeds on the CPU and GPU allowing for higher framerates and resolutions. Nothing dramatic though.
The talk of 4K and DLSS im thinking is for the Switch 2. That is the major upgrade where theres leaks that in handheld mode it'll be slightly above a base PS4 in raw power, just with a better CPU and more advanced graphics chip.
Its on 80 million now so itll outsell the Wii after this Xmas and then the PS4 by Xmas 2022 making it the 3rd best selling dedicated videogame hardware of all time. 2023 would be a good time for its follow up. With 3 more years of strong 1st party support, a meaningful price cut and no follow up till 2024 however, it stands a chance of reaching DS levels.
@Joker13z Its their opinion and they broke down why they weren't fully taken by the artistic direction in the review. So your reaction just seems weird. If you disagree and find the art style to your taste then thats cool. Live and let live.
Definite purchases for me: Skyward Sword, Legend of Mana, Monster Hunter Rise, Splatoon 3, Miitopia and No More Heroes 3
Games i'll get around to buying eventually: Saga Frontier, Ninja Gaiden Master Collection, Ghosts n Goblins, Bravely Default 2 and Project Triangle Strategy (because its strategy and not just a turn based RPG)
Bayonetta 3, No More Heroes 3, Zelda remasters and Metroid Prime Trilogy remaster with HD textures and updated lighting and special effects. More Monster Hunter info and new Smash Bros characters. That would be epic. Breath of the Wild 2 and Metroid Prime 4 will be 2022s heavy hitters id bet.
With the Switch being on 80 million sold and the Wii being on like 101, outselling Wii is not a hard milestone, (itll do so by January 2022) and the PS4 by Jan 2023 latest
Combining Wii and DS MK sales isnt the same thing as the two titles were different games, unlike the Switch and Wii U iterations. So its a nonsensical suggestion.
@NathanTheAsian Im well aware 2023 is 6 years. I was making the point that "even" the enormously successful DS topped out at 7years thus highlighting how your proposed 2025 for a successor verges on ludicrous. Nintendo does attempt to chart its own path, however its naive to believe that it operates within its own bubble. It is still subject to market forces. So whilst Nintendo doesn't market itself as a direct competitor to Sony and MS, there is major crossover in audience and said audience does not have unlimited financial resources for recreation. Some people have to make choices between one of the 3 major consoles. Wii U ports arent going to carry the Switch to an unprecedented 8 year lifespan. Thats ridiculous. My prediction is that in 2022 the rumour mill will begin, specs will leak and then in 2023 we'll get a true successor. By then Switch will have outsold the Wii, PS1 and PS4 and had a commendable 6 year run. Lets see what happens
@NathanTheAsian What Nintendo would prefer and what the market dictates are two separate things. Bear that in mind. Even the enormously successful DS topped out at 7 yrs. Same for PS4. Nintendo cant keep a console afloat on their games alone. GC and Wii U showed that. Plus Switch is getting minute amounts of major 3rd party exclusives but instead just ports. With the new gen having just arrived bringing even more powerful competing hardware said major ports will reduce in number as theyll become harder to do justice. We'll get a new Nintendo hybrid in 2023.
Given those figures are 2 weeks old, the Switch is probably on around 78 million right now. It'll outsell the Gameboy Advance and PSP by the end of this March latest, by June/July it'll have outsold the 360 (84 mill) and by Xmas 2021 latest it'll have outsold the PS3 and be within 5 mill of the Wii which it'll surpass by March 2022 latest. Xmas 2022 will see it pass the PS4 and the by March 2023 it'll have surpassed the original Gameboy and that'll leave it as the 3rd best selling dedicated gaming machine of all time.
@Giancarlothomaz 2020 had Animal Crossing that far outstrips Breath of Wild commercially and still the Switch sold about 23 mill this year. BOTW2 would need to make the Switch sell over 35 mill in a year in order to outsell the PS4. Its never going to happen. It'll def outsell the Wii by the start of 2022 but it wouldnt outsell PS4 before the end of 2022
@Giancarlothomaz Itll 100% outsell the Wii by Jan 2022 latest as its sitting on around 80mill at the moment and Wii sold around 101 mill, but with ps4 at around 115 mill i dont think it will outsell PS4 till Dec 2022
I hope not. I just want a next gen Switch end of 2022/early 2023 not a mid gen refresh.
Nintendo just need to spend the next 12 months focused on Metroid, Zelda and Switch development in general then shift the majority of development resources to the next gen from 2022
@rockodoodle Then get a next gen console. It doesnt have to be one or the other.
As i hightlighted there are around 65 million Switch owners, only a 3rd of them have MK8D and this consoles sales projections are very healthy meaning yes it will continue to sell well over the next couple years. Mario Kart is one of Nintendos evergreen titles that sell well through their respective systems life cycles.
Youre not going to get another mainstream MK on Switch. DLC makes more sense business wise and is your best hope.
@hotgamer77 Remasters werent commonplace in 2006 when Wii launched. Furthermore with the Wiis unique selling point being motion controls it made far more sense to have a new Mario Kart built from the ground up around that instead of shoehorning motion controls into a Mario Kart that wasnt well received.
Different era, different marketplace.
The MK8 remaster however made sense and as i said before, the commercial reaction shows it was the right business move.
1 mainstream MK per system makes sense. We'll have a new console end of 2022/early 2023. Id much rather see the system seller that is MK used to ensure the Switchs follow up is a success as opposed to Nintendo catering for the more entitled sections of their fans.
@rockodoodle Dont understand or wont accept my perspective? We've been through this in depth on another post
MK8D is still selling extremely well which means it would be insane from a business perspective for Nintendo to cannibalize those sales
Wii U only sold around 14 million. Not every Wii U owner bought MK8 and there are near 65 million Switch owners.
Therefore there are still many more people for whom MK8D would be a new experience. This isn't just about you.
I understand you were probably a Wii U owner, but youre in the minority. Come out of your bubble and accept the situation. Again i repeat this isnt just about you. Nintendo are a business and their business decision to port and remaster MK8 was evidently a wise move going by its sales performance.
As a fan of the franchise and Nintendo, new DLC would make sense. Then when we have a more powerful successor we can get a new MK with better graphics, better physics and an overall more distinct experience from what Switch could produce.
As a true fan i want whats best for the franchise and Nintendo themselves.
@GrailUK Right now cos of the unpredictable environment Covid leaves us in then yh, but in the medium term, acquisition of other studios and increasing their development capacity is exactly what they need to do. Its help diversify their catalogue as well as the amount of titles released. How anyone can be against that i dont know lol
@Clyde_Radcliffe Yeah its crazy. This isnt a cult. We are just fans of a brand. If said brand doesnt provide the products/service we expect, then as long as said expectations are realistic/reasonable then we as consumers have every right to be vocal about our disappointment. Its mad how some fans feel the need to defend against anh and all criticism like Nintendos a religion.
A Pikmin 3 port this im hoping is just an attempt to reacquaint audiences with the series ahead of a Pikmin 4 launch next year. Otherwise thats deeply disappointing given how near to completion Miyamoto said the sequel was.
Lets hope the rumours of a full Direct next month are true. Id love No More Heroes 3, the rumoured 3D Mario Allstars collection and Skyward Sword remaster this year. I think Bayonetta 3 and Breath of the Wild 2 will be their big 2021 titles with Metroid Prime 4 coming in 2022
@GrailUK To be fair its not all about you lol. Other gamers might have more time on their hands to get through the released titles or have different gaming tastes to you so what 1st party games have trickled out from Nintendo in 2020 might not be for them. With that in mind Fragreds comment was understandable and its one i can imagine many other Nintendo fans agree with. Being a fan doesnt mean we cant criticize or wish for better from the company we love.
@johnvboy Not yet unfortunately. Was hoping for updates in this streamed presentation. Itll never come to Switch. But the least Ubisoft could do is release the 1st game on Switch in HD
@Perryg92 Beyond Good and Evil HD would be amazing. It was already done for the 360 and PS3 so it wouldnt be expensive or resource intensive. We should do a petition
@LavaTwilight DLC would be very welcome but the games 3 years old in its deluxe format so its unlikely. Games cant provide new content forever. You just have to make the most of it and also try other reputable kart racers like crash and sonic whilst waiting for mk9 on new hardware. We'll prob have a new system unveiled in 2022 with a launch in 2023.
@LavaTwilight Because theres little value in releasing a 2nd Mario Kart on the Switch when its hardware wouldnt be able to elevate the series enough to warrant an additional entry. DLC is a better shout whilst MK9 should be held for new hardware.
@LavaTwilight It would not make sense to make MK9 on Switch. Id much rather just get dlc for MK8 and an MK9 on a new console/handheld whose superior cpu would allow for more complex course design and artificial intelligence and whose gpu would allow for far better image quality and effects.
@nessisonett Thats a really superficial assessment. If it was that easy then of course they would be hitting 1080p. But complexity of geometry and volume and application of special effects differs between titles. This is an effects heavy open world game so of course there are going to sacrifices to facilitate that. Resources on console are fixed.
Why would downgraded graphics be a minus point? Thats inherent to it being on Switch a less capable platform. Thats out of the developers hands. Just seems like an unfair point. But if youre saying the graphics are rough by Switch standards and capabilities then it would make sense
@rockodoodle All of which could be incorporated more successfully from a business sense to support new hardware.
You have a habit of picking and choosing the points you attempt to counter.
Franchise fatigue that would come with another entry on Switch, unnecessary cannibalisation of extremely good MK8D sales, missed opportunity to support the success of the Switchs successor in a similar way to MK8D has done with Switch and a missed opportunity to present Mario Kart in a level of fidelity and with more complex A.I and track design beyond what Switch is capable of.
You think too short term. I love Nintendo and want their output to continue long into the future so my views and desires take that into consideration and are conducive to that. Learn to look at the bigger picture.
You are not bringing any worthwhile counters.You'll get no further replies.
@rockodoodle An additional Mario Kart entry for the Switch would be a poor choice to combat the newer platforms as the hardware would not be up to the task of sufficiently distinguishing it from MK8D. It would just feed into the perception that Nintendo has no new ideas and just recycles the same stuff. Which objective gamers know isnt true. A more sensible proposal would be additional DLC to extend the replayability of the current entry. I would hate for a next gen Mario Kart to be delayed because of an additional Switch entry. Thats a horrible idea.
The current version is selling well. Very well. So it would not make business sense to invest in and release another entry on the same platform and cannibalise those sales. Would make far better sense to use a new entry to support the success of a new console. Kind of like the successful MK strategy Nintendos been using for nearly 30 years.
@rockodoodle The Switch does have its own Mario Kart. Its called Mario Kart 8 Deluxe which has features and modes the original did not have and runs at a level of fidelity the Wii U couldnt manage. Each Mario Kart brings fidelity and features the previous gen could not handle so each successive game justifies its existence. The Switch is not significantly more powerful than the Wii U, so to avoid a retread/rehash it makes far more sense to have a Mario Kart 9 in 2023, with better graphics, more complex course design and more complex A.I. all enabled by more capable hardware. It makes more business sense as well as another release on Switch in what would be a similar format could risk franchise fatigue which wouldnt be good for Nintendos success or good for us as fans. So before lamenting about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, appreciate it for what it is and consider the bigger picture. Not just your short term wants.
@sixrings Ive no reason to be defensive. I dont own shares in Nintendo. Youve posted in a public forum which leaves your comments open to replies and criticism. I saw your post. Didnt agree with your perspective and therefore replied. The magic of a commenting section
All it comes down to is you as a consumer have choice and autonomy in how you spend your money when it comes to entertainment products. If you dont like the ports, dont buy them.
If you do buy the ports, then its wasted energy moaning about their existence.
Its completely understandable from a business perspective why the ports were made and Nintendo are under no obligation to provide an upgrade programme. You have your Wii U, use it. Or dont buy the ports. Or buy the ports, enjoy them and get on with your life. Choice
@sixrings Bro you are not entitled to a cross gen upgrade programme. You have your Wii U. You therefore should feel under no obligation to buy the Switch ports. Play them on your Wii U and enjoy the Switch for its original content of which there is plenty.
What youre proposing sounds lovely, happy and smiley but as nice and family friendly as Nintendo are, they are still a business so your suggestion is not realistic.
@ShaiHulud Given that there are under 14 million Wii U owners, the porting situation is just something we have to grin and bear. There have been plenty of original Switch games and its had decent 3rd party support. If these ports can amass greater interest in certain IP and justify new releases in series such as Pikmin, Captain Toad and Donkey Kong etc then theyre worthwhile in the long run.
Plus to be honest given how close Wii U and Switch are in power i wouldnt want a Mario Kart 9 on Switch. It wouldnt be distinctive enough from 8. Far better to have 9 as a launch window title for Nintendos next console.
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Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think The "Switch Pro" Will Actually Be Called?
Nintendo Switch Max!
Re: Feature: Nintendo Had A Spectacular Year, And May Have Big Plans
@SuperCharr Youre missing the bigger picture. Youve been a Nintendo fan for 25 years so youre prob in your 30s. Youre not gonna be around forever and Nintendos continued success cant solely rely on existing customers. Through animated movies and theme parks future generations buy in to Mario and co and thos can translate into more people buying Nintendo products giving them the resources to keep making the games we like and their success will see a conti ued contribution from 3rd parties who cant ignore successful install base.
Re: In Just Two Days New Pokémon Snap Became April's Best-Seller In UK Retail
@Mr-Fuggles777 Without being a developer we cant really make those kind of assumptions. The fact that its on rails has already been taken advantage of in other areas of the graphical make up through far better image quality and geometry than any other Pokemon game before it. But things such as fur shaders sap bandwith and as i mentioned previously theres precedence for such effects to be left out of Switch titles as we are dealing with whats effectively mobile hardware.
Re: In Just Two Days New Pokémon Snap Became April's Best-Seller In UK Retail
@Mr-Fuggles777 The Switch GPU is very bandwidth limited so something like fur effects could effect the framerate given the good level of detail in other aspects of the games graphical makeup. Its one of the reasons the Donkey Kong character model in Smash Bros Ultimate lost the fur shader the Wii U one had.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Becomes The "Best-Selling" Racing Game In US History
@Snatcher Ok course they will, just not for the current Switch which is good as id prefer a MK9 on the Switchs successor wth improved visuals, physics, A.I and track complexity all things that require more capable hardware. Any release on the current Switch wouldnt be distinct enough from MK8D making it pointless.
Id rather the Mario Kart team focus resources on making MK9 as good as it can be instead of splitting time and manpower on DLC for a launch window game.
Re: Soapbox: Hurry Up And Release The Switch Pro Already, My Switch Is Dying
Forget a Switch Pro. I just want them to release a Switch 2 in 2023.
Undocked in between a PS4 and a PS4 Pro graphics wise. Docked on par with a PS4 Pro but with added DLSS for image quality more in line with current gen consoles.
CPU would need to be 8 core minimum and be on par with Xbox series S in terms of capability to ensure a steady stream of ports throughout its lifetime.
720p OLED. This would be fine for handheld. Just the Switch to OLED would bring a marked improvement in clarity and contrast. Plus sticking to 720 would mean improved battery life plus all of the extra GPU grunt would have less of an issue keeping titles at native resolution in handheld mode.
Improved Joycons and haptic feedback, as well as a proper D-pad!
Re: Review: Balan Wonderworld - A Charmless, Confusing Fossil From The Creators Of Sonic
@Strictlystyles Support him by withholding your money thereby encouraging him to make great games, not by buying his duds. What's the incentive for him to do better if you incentivize his mediocrity?
Re: A New Pokémon Sword And Shield Item Distribution Has Begun - One Week Only
@TheLightSpirit Its free. Why the negativity? Id rather type in a code than spend an extended period farming for the same items lol
Re: Video: This Is What Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Looks Like Running At 8K With Ray Tracing Enabled
@foobarbaz I disagree. The artstyles are agreed and created to accommodate the technical makeup of the system theyre on. Was HD a waste when Nintendos hardware was the standard def Wii? Of course not. Nintendo work with what they have. When Nintendo moved to the Wii U they adapted their artstle and assets accordingly.
When Nintendo eventually move on to hardware that has 4K and raytracing capability then again their art style will adapt,
We shouldnt rubbish or demean the value of great technological developments just because theyre beyond the capabilities of our chosen systems. Lets be objective.
Re: Video: This Is What Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Looks Like Running At 8K With Ray Tracing Enabled
@nab1 Agreed. BOTWs art style was made to accommodate the technical capacity of the Wii U hardware. By simply increasing the resolution without doing any tinkering with the lighting model, special effects or textures it doesnt look as good as it could and if anything makes the game look nice but slightly off as the assets were never designed to be displayed at such a high resolution.
Re: Video: This Is What Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Looks Like Running At 8K With Ray Tracing Enabled
@Dm9982 Thats a premature assessment. Its way too early in this gen to say the gaps small as we're in a transitional period of cross gen titles and developers still learning to use the new hardware and adjust their engines accordingly.
At the start of last gen people were saying the same thing you are now, that there isnt a big gap between PS3 and PS4 but shortly afterwards it became quite apparent that just wasnt true when developers got to grips with the new hardware.
Similarly, the gap between current gen and last gen will begin to widen as the gen progresses. Its like at the start of each gen everyone consistently forgets the lessons learned and the precedence set in previous generations.
Patience
Re: Rumour: Nvidia Is Stopping Production Of Switch's Most Important Hardware This Year
Im thinking people are getting confused between rumours regarding the Switch revision and rumours about the Switch follow up. Im expecting a Switch revision this year with a 720p OLED and a version of Tegra X1 on a more advanced process node so maybe 7nm (down from 16nm.) This would allow them to use higher clock speeds on the CPU and GPU allowing for higher framerates and resolutions. Nothing dramatic though.
The talk of 4K and DLSS im thinking is for the Switch 2. That is the major upgrade where theres leaks that in handheld mode it'll be slightly above a base PS4 in raw power, just with a better CPU and more advanced graphics chip.
Re: Rumour: Nvidia Is Stopping Production Of Switch's Most Important Hardware This Year
@Twilite9 Super Switch should be reserved for a Switch 2. This is just a Switch hardware revision
Re: Feature: The 10 Best SNES RPGs
@Sirloto FF6 is on the list. It was called FF3 in the UK
Re: Anniversary: Nintendo Switch Launched Four Years Ago Today
Its on 80 million now so itll outsell the Wii after this Xmas and then the PS4 by Xmas 2022 making it the 3rd best selling dedicated videogame hardware of all time. 2023 would be a good time for its follow up. With 3 more years of strong 1st party support, a meaningful price cut and no follow up till 2024 however, it stands a chance of reaching DS levels.
Re: Review: Bravely Default II - An Excellent Old-School JRPG That's Happy To Play It Safe
@Joker13z Its their opinion and they broke down why they weren't fully taken by the artistic direction in the review. So your reaction just seems weird. If you disagree and find the art style to your taste then thats cool. Live and let live.
Re: New Nintendo Infographic Shows Off The 30+ Games Announced During This Week's Direct
Definite purchases for me: Skyward Sword, Legend of Mana, Monster Hunter Rise, Splatoon 3, Miitopia and No More Heroes 3
Games i'll get around to buying eventually: Saga Frontier, Ninja Gaiden Master Collection, Ghosts n Goblins, Bravely Default 2 and Project Triangle Strategy (because its strategy and not just a turn based RPG)
Re: Nintendo Direct To Air Tomorrow, Wednesday 17th February
Bayonetta 3, No More Heroes 3, Zelda remasters and Metroid Prime Trilogy remaster with HD textures and updated lighting and special effects. More Monster Hunter info and new Smash Bros characters. That would be epic. Breath of the Wild 2 and Metroid Prime 4 will be 2022s heavy hitters id bet.
Re: Nintendo Is "Rigorously Responding" To Demand For Multiple Switch Consoles Per Household
With the Switch being on 80 million sold and the Wii being on like 101, outselling Wii is not a hard milestone, (itll do so by January 2022) and the PS4 by Jan 2023 latest
Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Frame Rate And Resolution Detailed
@sixrings We dont. We just need more exclusive Switch games over the next couple years followed by a Switch successor (not a pro model) in 2023.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Overtakes Mario Kart Wii As Best-Selling Series Entry
Combining Wii and DS MK sales isnt the same thing as the two titles were different games, unlike the Switch and Wii U iterations. So its a nonsensical suggestion.
Re: A 'Pro' Switch With More Power Might Not Even Be Fully Utilised, Says Industry Veteran
@NathanTheAsian Im well aware 2023 is 6 years. I was making the point that "even" the enormously successful DS topped out at 7years thus highlighting how your proposed 2025 for a successor verges on ludicrous. Nintendo does attempt to chart its own path, however its naive to believe that it operates within its own bubble. It is still subject to market forces. So whilst Nintendo doesn't market itself as a direct competitor to Sony and MS, there is major crossover in audience and said audience does not have unlimited financial resources for recreation. Some people have to make choices between one of the 3 major consoles. Wii U ports arent going to carry the Switch to an unprecedented 8 year lifespan. Thats ridiculous. My prediction is that in 2022 the rumour mill will begin, specs will leak and then in 2023 we'll get a true successor. By then Switch will have outsold the Wii, PS1 and PS4 and had a commendable 6 year run. Lets see what happens
Re: A 'Pro' Switch With More Power Might Not Even Be Fully Utilised, Says Industry Veteran
@NathanTheAsian What Nintendo would prefer and what the market dictates are two separate things. Bear that in mind. Even the enormously successful DS topped out at 7 yrs. Same for PS4. Nintendo cant keep a console afloat on their games alone. GC and Wii U showed that. Plus Switch is getting minute amounts of major 3rd party exclusives but instead just ports. With the new gen having just arrived bringing even more powerful competing hardware said major ports will reduce in number as theyll become harder to do justice. We'll get a new Nintendo hybrid in 2023.
Re: A 'Pro' Switch With More Power Might Not Even Be Fully Utilised, Says Industry Veteran
Forget a Switch Pro. Nintendo just need to release a Switch 2 in 2023
Re: The Switch Has Now Sold More Units Than The 3DS
Given those figures are 2 weeks old, the Switch is probably on around 78 million right now. It'll outsell the Gameboy Advance and PSP by the end of this March latest, by June/July it'll have outsold the 360 (84 mill) and by Xmas 2021 latest it'll have outsold the PS3 and be within 5 mill of the Wii which it'll surpass by March 2022 latest. Xmas 2022 will see it pass the PS4 and the by March 2023 it'll have surpassed the original Gameboy and that'll leave it as the 3rd best selling dedicated gaming machine of all time.
Re: Rumour: Datamine Apparently Reveals All About The New Nintendo Switch Revision
I'll pass and wait for the Switch 2
Re: Japanese Charts: Nintendo Switch Ends 2020 In Spectacular Fashion
@Giancarlothomaz 2020 had Animal Crossing that far outstrips Breath of Wild commercially and still the Switch sold about 23 mill this year. BOTW2 would need to make the Switch sell over 35 mill in a year in order to outsell the PS4. Its never going to happen. It'll def outsell the Wii by the start of 2022 but it wouldnt outsell PS4 before the end of 2022
Re: Japanese Charts: Nintendo Switch Ends 2020 In Spectacular Fashion
@Giancarlothomaz Itll 100% outsell the Wii by Jan 2022 latest as its sitting on around 80mill at the moment and Wii sold around 101 mill, but with ps4 at around 115 mill i dont think it will outsell PS4 till Dec 2022
Re: Industry Analysts Are Still Confident We'll See A Switch Pro This Year
I hope not. I just want a next gen Switch end of 2022/early 2023 not a mid gen refresh.
Nintendo just need to spend the next 12 months focused on Metroid, Zelda and Switch development in general then shift the majority of development resources to the next gen from 2022
Re: Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit Uses Real RC Cars And Augmented Reality
@rockodoodle Then get a next gen console. It doesnt have to be one or the other.
As i hightlighted there are around 65 million Switch owners, only a 3rd of them have MK8D and this consoles sales projections are very healthy meaning yes it will continue to sell well over the next couple years. Mario Kart is one of Nintendos evergreen titles that sell well through their respective systems life cycles.
Youre not going to get another mainstream MK on Switch. DLC makes more sense business wise and is your best hope.
Re: Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit Uses Real RC Cars And Augmented Reality
@hotgamer77 Remasters werent commonplace in 2006 when Wii launched. Furthermore with the Wiis unique selling point being motion controls it made far more sense to have a new Mario Kart built from the ground up around that instead of shoehorning motion controls into a Mario Kart that wasnt well received.
Different era, different marketplace.
The MK8 remaster however made sense and as i said before, the commercial reaction shows it was the right business move.
1 mainstream MK per system makes sense. We'll have a new console end of 2022/early 2023. Id much rather see the system seller that is MK used to ensure the Switchs follow up is a success as opposed to Nintendo catering for the more entitled sections of their fans.
Re: Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit Uses Real RC Cars And Augmented Reality
@rockodoodle Dont understand or wont accept my perspective? We've been through this in depth on another post
MK8D is still selling extremely well which means it would be insane from a business perspective for Nintendo to cannibalize those sales
Wii U only sold around 14 million. Not every Wii U owner bought MK8 and there are near 65 million Switch owners.
Therefore there are still many more people for whom MK8D would be a new experience. This isn't just about you.
I understand you were probably a Wii U owner, but youre in the minority. Come out of your bubble and accept the situation. Again i repeat this isnt just about you. Nintendo are a business and their business decision to port and remaster MK8 was evidently a wise move going by its sales performance.
As a fan of the franchise and Nintendo, new DLC would make sense. Then when we have a more powerful successor we can get a new MK with better graphics, better physics and an overall more distinct experience from what Switch could produce.
As a true fan i want whats best for the franchise and Nintendo themselves.
Re: Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit Uses Real RC Cars And Augmented Reality
@rockodoodle Nah mate. The next console will see MK9. Makes sense.
Re: Nintendo Is Reportedly Japan's Richest Company Of 2020
@GrailUK Right now cos of the unpredictable environment Covid leaves us in then yh, but in the medium term, acquisition of other studios and increasing their development capacity is exactly what they need to do. Its help diversify their catalogue as well as the amount of titles released. How anyone can be against that i dont know lol
Re: Nintendo Is Reportedly Japan's Richest Company Of 2020
@Clyde_Radcliffe Yeah its crazy. This isnt a cult. We are just fans of a brand. If said brand doesnt provide the products/service we expect, then as long as said expectations are realistic/reasonable then we as consumers have every right to be vocal about our disappointment. Its mad how some fans feel the need to defend against anh and all criticism like Nintendos a religion.
A Pikmin 3 port this im hoping is just an attempt to reacquaint audiences with the series ahead of a Pikmin 4 launch next year. Otherwise thats deeply disappointing given how near to completion Miyamoto said the sequel was.
Lets hope the rumours of a full Direct next month are true. Id love No More Heroes 3, the rumoured 3D Mario Allstars collection and Skyward Sword remaster this year. I think Bayonetta 3 and Breath of the Wild 2 will be their big 2021 titles with Metroid Prime 4 coming in 2022
Re: Nintendo Is Reportedly Japan's Richest Company Of 2020
@GrailUK To be fair its not all about you lol. Other gamers might have more time on their hands to get through the released titles or have different gaming tastes to you so what 1st party games have trickled out from Nintendo in 2020 might not be for them. With that in mind Fragreds comment was understandable and its one i can imagine many other Nintendo fans agree with. Being a fan doesnt mean we cant criticize or wish for better from the company we love.
Re: Reminder: Ubisoft Forward Airs Today - An "E3-Style" Showcase Featuring News, Reveals And Much More
@johnvboy Not yet unfortunately. Was hoping for updates in this streamed presentation. Itll never come to Switch. But the least Ubisoft could do is release the 1st game on Switch in HD
Re: Reminder: Ubisoft Forward Airs Today - An "E3-Style" Showcase Featuring News, Reveals And Much More
@Perryg92 Beyond Good and Evil HD would be amazing. It was already done for the 360 and PS3 so it wouldnt be expensive or resource intensive. We should do a petition
Re: UK Charts: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Soars To Number One As Nintendo Takes Six Of The Top Ten
@LavaTwilight DLC would be very welcome but the games 3 years old in its deluxe format so its unlikely. Games cant provide new content forever. You just have to make the most of it and also try other reputable kart racers like crash and sonic whilst waiting for mk9 on new hardware. We'll prob have a new system unveiled in 2022 with a launch in 2023.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Soars To Number One As Nintendo Takes Six Of The Top Ten
@LavaTwilight Because theres little value in releasing a 2nd Mario Kart on the Switch when its hardware wouldnt be able to elevate the series enough to warrant an additional entry. DLC is a better shout whilst MK9 should be held for new hardware.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Soars To Number One As Nintendo Takes Six Of The Top Ten
@LavaTwilight It would not make sense to make MK9 on Switch. Id much rather just get dlc for MK8 and an MK9 on a new console/handheld whose superior cpu would allow for more complex course design and artificial intelligence and whose gpu would allow for far better image quality and effects.
Re: Early Tech Analysis Of Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition Reveals Frame Rate And Resolution
@nessisonett Thats a really superficial assessment. If it was that easy then of course they would be hitting 1080p. But complexity of geometry and volume and application of special effects differs between titles. This is an effects heavy open world game so of course there are going to sacrifices to facilitate that. Resources on console are fixed.
Re: Review: The Persistence - Firesprite's Likeable VR Horror Has Survived The Shift To Switch Perfectly
Why would downgraded graphics be a minus point? Thats inherent to it being on Switch a less capable platform. Thats out of the developers hands. Just seems like an unfair point. But if youre saying the graphics are rough by Switch standards and capabilities then it would make sense
Re: Rumours About Pikmin 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch Intensify
@rockodoodle All of which could be incorporated more successfully from a business sense to support new hardware.
You have a habit of picking and choosing the points you attempt to counter.
Franchise fatigue that would come with another entry on Switch, unnecessary cannibalisation of extremely good MK8D sales, missed opportunity to support the success of the Switchs successor in a similar way to MK8D has done with Switch and a missed opportunity to present Mario Kart in a level of fidelity and with more complex A.I and track design beyond what Switch is capable of.
You think too short term. I love Nintendo and want their output to continue long into the future so my views and desires take that into consideration and are conducive to that. Learn to look at the bigger picture.
You are not bringing any worthwhile counters.You'll get no further replies.
Re: Rumours About Pikmin 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch Intensify
@rockodoodle An additional Mario Kart entry for the Switch would be a poor choice to combat the newer platforms as the hardware would not be up to the task of sufficiently distinguishing it from MK8D. It would just feed into the perception that Nintendo has no new ideas and just recycles the same stuff. Which objective gamers know isnt true. A more sensible proposal would be additional DLC to extend the replayability of the current entry. I would hate for a next gen Mario Kart to be delayed because of an additional Switch entry. Thats a horrible idea.
The current version is selling well. Very well. So it would not make business sense to invest in and release another entry on the same platform and cannibalise those sales. Would make far better sense to use a new entry to support the success of a new console. Kind of like the successful MK strategy Nintendos been using for nearly 30 years.
Re: Rumours About Pikmin 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch Intensify
@rockodoodle As far as Nintendos concerned, you know the platform holder, the IP owner MK8Deluxe is Switchs MK entry. Live with it.
Ive explained myself clearly and with good logic previously. Youve brought nothing of merit to the table so we'll leave it there.
Re: Rumours About Pikmin 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch Intensify
@rockodoodle The Switch does have its own Mario Kart. Its called Mario Kart 8 Deluxe which has features and modes the original did not have and runs at a level of fidelity the Wii U couldnt manage. Each Mario Kart brings fidelity and features the previous gen could not handle so each successive game justifies its existence. The Switch is not significantly more powerful than the Wii U, so to avoid a retread/rehash it makes far more sense to have a Mario Kart 9 in 2023, with better graphics, more complex course design and more complex A.I. all enabled by more capable hardware. It makes more business sense as well as another release on Switch in what would be a similar format could risk franchise fatigue which wouldnt be good for Nintendos success or good for us as fans. So before lamenting about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, appreciate it for what it is and consider the bigger picture. Not just your short term wants.
Re: Rumours About Pikmin 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch Intensify
@sixrings Ive no reason to be defensive. I dont own shares in Nintendo. Youve posted in a public forum which leaves your comments open to replies and criticism. I saw your post. Didnt agree with your perspective and therefore replied. The magic of a commenting section
All it comes down to is you as a consumer have choice and autonomy in how you spend your money when it comes to entertainment products. If you dont like the ports, dont buy them.
If you do buy the ports, then its wasted energy moaning about their existence.
Its completely understandable from a business perspective why the ports were made and Nintendo are under no obligation to provide an upgrade programme. You have your Wii U, use it. Or dont buy the ports. Or buy the ports, enjoy them and get on with your life. Choice
Re: Rumours About Pikmin 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch Intensify
@sixrings Bro you are not entitled to a cross gen upgrade programme. You have your Wii U. You therefore should feel under no obligation to buy the Switch ports. Play them on your Wii U and enjoy the Switch for its original content of which there is plenty.
What youre proposing sounds lovely, happy and smiley but as nice and family friendly as Nintendo are, they are still a business so your suggestion is not realistic.
Re: Rumours About Pikmin 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch Intensify
@ShaiHulud Given that there are under 14 million Wii U owners, the porting situation is just something we have to grin and bear. There have been plenty of original Switch games and its had decent 3rd party support. If these ports can amass greater interest in certain IP and justify new releases in series such as Pikmin, Captain Toad and Donkey Kong etc then theyre worthwhile in the long run.
Plus to be honest given how close Wii U and Switch are in power i wouldnt want a Mario Kart 9 on Switch. It wouldnt be distinctive enough from 8. Far better to have 9 as a launch window title for Nintendos next console.