The Forsaken Maiden is fantastic and a big step up from The Isle Dragon Roars which I also really liked so I'm more than happy to buy another. Especially considering they are pretty fairy priced at like €30
@RCGamer it's literally a persona game with ARPG instanced combat like DMC and Bayonetta and Kingdom Hearts. It is not a musou like AoC and was never marketed as such or said to be such by the developers. They explicitly said in an interview that it started as that but they changed course early in development but someone put it on the wiki that it is a Warriors game so it's a Warriors game 🤷♂️
@XenoMario Scramble is not a musou game. It's structure is exactly the same as a normal persona game but with action RPG combat. It's not repetitive in the way others can be because its heavily story focussed, features dungeon exploration and a small character roster with heavy use of personas like the Astral Chain combat.
There's also no continuos mode with tons of levels after like Warriors games. It just ends.
@Rexenoboy DW9 IS a disgrace but this is Empires. The terrible Open World has been removed and theyve made lots of other adjustments apparnrlyy so we don't know how it will be
@RupeeClock ah well there you go then. The perfect storm for a breakout new character. A unique animal + personality type, one of a small pool of new ones and a design that resonated with many
@JR150 because he's one of a handful of new villagers and his design hits all the right spots for a lot of fans. The personality bit means nothing because the number of personality types is absurdly low.
Cant wait to see which skin Nintendo's latest slot machine gets considering we already have Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Pokémon and Dragalia!
@Emperor-Palpsy 'good riddance' lmao did you read the article? It's not going anywhere because a few people on twitter 'dont think it's how it used to be'.
When I was a kid we were all staying up all night playing on our Gameboys or playing top trumps during the lessons. Children who aren't disciplined by their parents or teachers will act out and latch on to whatever they have at their disposal. It's nothing unique to fortnite which you should know as an apparent educator.
@mr_benn yeah I imagine (if the DLC is more than just the seasonal events which is all they're promised so far) that if I didn't pre-order this game and instead got it after a while I would be more pleased but the 10/10 reviews assured me beforehand that this was a game I had to get asap lmao.
Yeah the minigames in the house I was referring to were the ones in the consoles in New Leaf! They had the island escape from Amiibo Festival which was really weirdly addictive and a puzzle game which I've forget the name of but was actually pretty in-depth. There are also the island minigames in New Leaf that aren't in NH but those were the ones I was talking about haha.
@mr_benn I know that as I've been playing since Wild World and put thousands of hours into the series by this point. It's not about wanting to do tons of things in a day but having options of things to do in the day. Do I fish for a bit or do I go diving? Do I focus on sorting out the garden or go work in the cafe and call it a day? Do I focus on grabbing up all the stuff to sell or do I move some furtniture around in my house and play some minigames. You're right that AC games are about longevity but removing things doesn't give you longevity at all. Removing two different collection items (sea creatures and art) and almost all interactivity outside of the bare minimum and making your island pretty doesn't add longevity or promote the kind of gameplay AC is known for.
@mr_benn the thing is that there isnt much to discover right now at all as most standard AC features have been cut. The speculation is all we're talking about because there is nothing to spoil. People are desperate to find hints of things to do and that's no one's fault but Nintendo's for releasing a game with an Anthem-level lack of content.
Yeah I had someone steal my PS account and use it to buy stuff beforehand during the first night of the lockdown in my country. Was pretty hard to get it all sorted with everything functioning on reduced staff.
@Crockin but I'm not talking about charcaters. I'm talking about FEATURES. Things to do. Diving isn't a character and that's gone. Working in the cafe isn't a character and that's gone. Minigames arent a character and they're gone etc. You may appreciate less things to do and less ways to interact with your villagers and town but I don't.
There's a major lack of content in this game which leaves me confused about the review score tbh. The cafe is gone, minigames are gone, art collecting and diving are gone as well as many other shops and stuff you think would be expanded on in the Switch version. So far the only seasonal update we've had has ONLY brought the seasonal items so these free DLC expansions better get more expansive or the high review scores were absolutely premature and undeserving.
Huh it seemed they were considering Dig as it's sequel with the whole new cast and it still being a platformer but I'm excited that even more Shovel Knight games are being considered.
This looks fantastic. I'm so excited for both this and Dig!! More excited for Dig because of the new Knights but the gameplay here looks really good. Love it
@Anri02 the 'musou' part of 'musou' is the sprawling battlefields with thousands of enemies to kill. If that's not here, it's a hack and slash RPG like so many others in the genre. This game doesn't have those big battlefields and is structured and plays like P5 except for the battles which are engaged in the same way as P5. The combat you're looking at is ARPG, hack and slash combat. It's not musou.
@Anri02 OF made Dragon Quest Builders and Attack on Titan as well as other non-musou games. It's also being developed with P-Studio (the Persona studio) who were responsible from changing this from a Persona Warriors title to a full sequel. It's already been stated in interviews.
@Trmn8r you're talking about the gameplay trailer which is obviously being as flashy as possible.
Gonna quote another comment of mine before I stop replying to you: 'Here: https://youtu.be/6Gx4cIFByDI At 1:03:00 it clearly shows the same traversal and exploration of P5 but with instanced hack and slash combat replacing the turn based battles'
@Trmn8r the overworld DOESNT have 'assloads of enemies'. A musou game requires the combat be map-based and flooded with enemies. This isnt. The combat when separated from the overworld of a musou is just action RPG combat. That's the whole point of what I'm saying. Kingdom Hearts Bayonetta etc. all have weaklings mixed in with the harder enemies in their combat. You're talking as if you haven't seen anything about this game.
@Trmn8r if you took any time to view any gameplay you'd see this is the full sequel to Persona 5 and features almost all the same gameplay except where you'd initiate a turn based battle in P5, you initiate a ARPG battle here. The quality is unquestionably above 'garbage' or 'stupid'. Buy a PS3 or PS4 if you're that desperate for P5 and nothing else.
@Zach777 Its a direct sequel to P5, yes and yeah the two is there to joke about the fact it's a sequel without a number in the name (probably because they thought P5-2 wasn't very marketable)
@NoxAeturnus musou is a subgenre of hack and slash. Not every hack and slash is a 'musou'.
'If you remove what makes it different, it's the same' is a stupid argument. The environmental traversal and instanced fighting matter because that's what stops it from being a musou game. Musou games have non-stop battlefields where all the fighting takes place openly on the map. That's not the case here. Everything is exactly the same as P5 but the combat system was changed to be hack and slash, not 'warriors'.
They stated that Persona Warriors was their initial idea but that changed when Atlus said they wanted this to be a full sequel. This is like Three Houses, KT being brought on to co-develop the franchise's next sequel.
Can you stop using words without understanding the meaning? Musou is a type of hack and slash. The hype of hack and slash in P5 Scramble ISNT a musou just as Bayonetta, DMC, Kingdom Hearts and other ARENT musous
@dedant did you see the bit where the exploration was completely open with the stealth elements like P5 until a fight was engaged which took them into a sectioned off fight like most ARPGs? That's not Warriors. Warriors/musou is running across a Battlefield to either make it to the end while racking up as many kills as possible or capturing objectives while racking up as many kills as possible/needed. This isn't that.
Hack and Slash is the word most commenters are looking for. It's a hack and slash ARPG like KH, Bayonetta, DMC etc.
Here: https://youtu.be/6Gx4cIFByDI
At 1:03:00 it clearly shows the same traversal and exploration of P5 but with instanced hack and slash combat replacing the turn based battles
@GhostGeneration musuo has a pretty clear meaning and gameplay format which this doesn't fill though. That's what I'm saying. The whole exploration and such functions the same as P5 except the battles are instanced action RPG battles like Kingdom Hearts with the Personas being similar to the legions in Astral Chain. The gameplay is so far removed from 'warriors' or 'musou' titles that to call this one would be as inaccurate as calling Kingdom Hearts, Bayonetta etc 'musou' titles.
@Supadav03 it's a full action RPG like Kingdom Hearts, Astral Chain etc. KT make a lot more than just Warriors such as Three Houses (a strategy RPG) and the Atelier series (RPG) and Dead or Alive (fighter).
Why isn't Birdo and Pauline in MK8D? I get that MK8D is a completely new game if you didn't have the Wii U but I played it tons on Wii U and while I enjoyed the new battle mode, I want more charcaters and tracks. I would happily pay another £40 for a meaty expansion or £60 for a new game. Im not downloading another Nintendo gacha for a chance to play this content.
The 2DS XL is really good in general and the catalogue of games on the system is immense with so many gems. My game of the year this year is a 3DS title; Persona Q2. So many genuinely amazing RPGs, adventure games, racing games etc. as well as a good selection of virtual console games. Really well-rounded system with tons of value. The home menu customisation with badges is really addictive as well.
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Re: Looks Like A Third ‘Voice Of Cards’ Game From Yoko Taro Is On The Way
The Forsaken Maiden is fantastic and a big step up from The Isle Dragon Roars which I also really liked so I'm more than happy to buy another. Especially considering they are pretty fairy priced at like €30
Re: Feature: Dynasty Warriors: A Series That's Remarkably Adept At Producing Spin-Offs
@RCGamer it's literally a persona game with ARPG instanced combat like DMC and Bayonetta and Kingdom Hearts. It is not a musou like AoC and was never marketed as such or said to be such by the developers. They explicitly said in an interview that it started as that but they changed course early in development but someone put it on the wiki that it is a Warriors game so it's a Warriors game 🤷♂️
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Calamity Gets Day-One Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@frizzy the Spanish voices are great so no, not 'everyone knows' it should be played in Japanese
Re: Koei Tecmo Brings Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires To Switch Early Next Year
@XenoMario Scramble is not a musou game. It's structure is exactly the same as a normal persona game but with action RPG combat. It's not repetitive in the way others can be because its heavily story focussed, features dungeon exploration and a small character roster with heavy use of personas like the Astral Chain combat.
There's also no continuos mode with tons of levels after like Warriors games. It just ends.
Re: Koei Tecmo Brings Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires To Switch Early Next Year
@Rexenoboy DW9 IS a disgrace but this is Empires. The terrible Open World has been removed and theyve made lots of other adjustments apparnrlyy so we don't know how it will be
Re: Nintendo To Cut Back On Mobile Games After Animal Crossing Success, Says Report
They already have a suite of gacha games brining in millions from mobile gambling so... Yay? I guess?
Re: Nintendo Clamps Down On The Sale Of Characters And Items In Animal Crossing: New Horizons For Real Money
@RupeeClock ah well there you go then. The perfect storm for a breakout new character. A unique animal + personality type, one of a small pool of new ones and a design that resonated with many
Re: Nintendo Clamps Down On The Sale Of Characters And Items In Animal Crossing: New Horizons For Real Money
@JR150 because he's one of a handful of new villagers and his design hits all the right spots for a lot of fans. The personality bit means nothing because the number of personality types is absurdly low.
Re: Nintendo Is Developing New Mobile Games, But Isn't Ready To Announce Anything Just Yet
Pikmin gacha? Zelda gacha? Smash Bros gacha?
Cant wait to see which skin Nintendo's latest slot machine gets considering we already have Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Pokémon and Dragalia!
Re: A Cool Animal Crossing: New Leaf Feature Might Be Coming To New Horizons
@CowCatcher literally everything post release has been returning features. These aren't surprises. Believe me, I'm waiting for surprises
Re: Ninjala Open Beta Is Now Available To Download On Switch For Free
@Anti-Matter why? It's designed to be a f2p online game so why would it have a physical release or offline playability?
Re: Random: #RipFortnite Is Trending On Twitter, As Players Protest Against Current State Of The Game
@Emperor-Palpsy 'good riddance' lmao did you read the article? It's not going anywhere because a few people on twitter 'dont think it's how it used to be'.
When I was a kid we were all staying up all night playing on our Gameboys or playing top trumps during the lessons. Children who aren't disciplined by their parents or teachers will act out and latch on to whatever they have at their disposal. It's nothing unique to fortnite which you should know as an apparent educator.
Re: Random: #RipFortnite Is Trending On Twitter, As Players Protest Against Current State Of The Game
Fortnite players throw tantrums over nothing all the time. There's nothing severely wrong with the game at all right now
Re: Feature: The Best Nintendo Switch Music And Rhythm Games
Waiting for Hatsune Miku to be available in the West
Re: Animal Crossing Villagers Are Now Referencing Brewster, Is A Coffee Shop Update Imminent?
@mr_benn yeah I imagine (if the DLC is more than just the seasonal events which is all they're promised so far) that if I didn't pre-order this game and instead got it after a while I would be more pleased but the 10/10 reviews assured me beforehand that this was a game I had to get asap lmao.
Yeah the minigames in the house I was referring to were the ones in the consoles in New Leaf! They had the island escape from Amiibo Festival which was really weirdly addictive and a puzzle game which I've forget the name of but was actually pretty in-depth. There are also the island minigames in New Leaf that aren't in NH but those were the ones I was talking about haha.
Re: Animal Crossing Villagers Are Now Referencing Brewster, Is A Coffee Shop Update Imminent?
@Crockin we've already had this conversation. You don't need to reply to me again on another article.
Re: Animal Crossing Villagers Are Now Referencing Brewster, Is A Coffee Shop Update Imminent?
@mr_benn I know that as I've been playing since Wild World and put thousands of hours into the series by this point. It's not about wanting to do tons of things in a day but having options of things to do in the day. Do I fish for a bit or do I go diving? Do I focus on sorting out the garden or go work in the cafe and call it a day? Do I focus on grabbing up all the stuff to sell or do I move some furtniture around in my house and play some minigames. You're right that AC games are about longevity but removing things doesn't give you longevity at all. Removing two different collection items (sea creatures and art) and almost all interactivity outside of the bare minimum and making your island pretty doesn't add longevity or promote the kind of gameplay AC is known for.
Re: Animal Crossing Villagers Are Now Referencing Brewster, Is A Coffee Shop Update Imminent?
@status-204 dataminers and time travellers.
Re: Animal Crossing Villagers Are Now Referencing Brewster, Is A Coffee Shop Update Imminent?
@mr_benn the thing is that there isnt much to discover right now at all as most standard AC features have been cut. The speculation is all we're talking about because there is nothing to spoil. People are desperate to find hints of things to do and that's no one's fault but Nintendo's for releasing a game with an Anthem-level lack of content.
Re: Nintendo Warns Of An Increasing Number Of Credit Card Fraud Reports, Offers Advice
Yeah I had someone steal my PS account and use it to buy stuff beforehand during the first night of the lockdown in my country. Was pretty hard to get it all sorted with everything functioning on reduced staff.
Re: Feature: Why We Think Crazy Redd Will Bring His Artwork To Animal Crossing: New Horizons
@Crockin but I'm not talking about charcaters. I'm talking about FEATURES. Things to do. Diving isn't a character and that's gone. Working in the cafe isn't a character and that's gone. Minigames arent a character and they're gone etc. You may appreciate less things to do and less ways to interact with your villagers and town but I don't.
Re: Feature: Why We Think Crazy Redd Will Bring His Artwork To Animal Crossing: New Horizons
@Crockin what is dumb about '10/10 game on Switch should have more/better content than the 3DS version'?.
Re: Feature: Why We Think Crazy Redd Will Bring His Artwork To Animal Crossing: New Horizons
There's a major lack of content in this game which leaves me confused about the review score tbh. The cafe is gone, minigames are gone, art collecting and diving are gone as well as many other shops and stuff you think would be expanded on in the Switch version. So far the only seasonal update we've had has ONLY brought the seasonal items so these free DLC expansions better get more expansive or the high review scores were absolutely premature and undeserving.
Re: Random: Sega Just Issued A Patch Which Protects Your Sensitive Eyes From Vocaloid Panties
@konbinilife never saw anyone complain about this. Stop whining about the 'vocal majority' that doesn't exist
Re: Random: Sega Just Issued A Patch Which Protects Your Sensitive Eyes From Vocaloid Panties
@Anvold literally not censorship. A bug with the physics engine
Re: Yacht Club Games Is "Absolutely" Considering A Shovel Knight Sequel
Huh it seemed they were considering Dig as it's sequel with the whole new cast and it still being a platformer but I'm excited that even more Shovel Knight games are being considered.
Re: Yacht Club Games Reveals Shovel Knight Pocket Dungeon For Nintendo Switch
This looks fantastic. I'm so excited for both this and Dig!! More excited for Dig because of the new Knights but the gameplay here looks really good. Love it
Re: Animal Crossing: New Horizons amiibo Functionality Detailed
@Silly_G Omg yeah I want the Sanrio ones so bad. I have a massive collection of amiibo cards and I'm so sad I don't have those
Re: Nintendo Expands The Switch Online SNES And NES Library With Four More Games
If this is what they're putting out for SNES I wish we could just jump straight to GBA. Maybe we'll get GameCube in 2025
Re: Temtem Developer Lays Down The Law And Bans "Almost 900" Cheaters
Ah the wonders of PC gaming
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 1st)
Playing through Tokyo Mirage Sessions. It's so fun and addictive. Probably a bit of Overwatch and Etrian Odyssey Nexus too
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@Anri02 the 'musou' part of 'musou' is the sprawling battlefields with thousands of enemies to kill. If that's not here, it's a hack and slash RPG like so many others in the genre. This game doesn't have those big battlefields and is structured and plays like P5 except for the battles which are engaged in the same way as P5. The combat you're looking at is ARPG, hack and slash combat. It's not musou.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@Anri02 OF made Dragon Quest Builders and Attack on Titan as well as other non-musou games. It's also being developed with P-Studio (the Persona studio) who were responsible from changing this from a Persona Warriors title to a full sequel. It's already been stated in interviews.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@Trmn8r you're talking about the gameplay trailer which is obviously being as flashy as possible.
Gonna quote another comment of mine before I stop replying to you: 'Here: https://youtu.be/6Gx4cIFByDI
At 1:03:00 it clearly shows the same traversal and exploration of P5 but with instanced hack and slash combat replacing the turn based battles'
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@danemord exactly. The only reason I'm here arguing this is that people are incorrectly using the label 'musou' and 'warriors' to deride the game.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@Trmn8r the overworld DOESNT have 'assloads of enemies'. A musou game requires the combat be map-based and flooded with enemies. This isnt. The combat when separated from the overworld of a musou is just action RPG combat. That's the whole point of what I'm saying. Kingdom Hearts Bayonetta etc. all have weaklings mixed in with the harder enemies in their combat. You're talking as if you haven't seen anything about this game.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@Trmn8r if you took any time to view any gameplay you'd see this is the full sequel to Persona 5 and features almost all the same gameplay except where you'd initiate a turn based battle in P5, you initiate a ARPG battle here. The quality is unquestionably above 'garbage' or 'stupid'. Buy a PS3 or PS4 if you're that desperate for P5 and nothing else.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@Zach777 Its a direct sequel to P5, yes and yeah the two is there to joke about the fact it's a sequel without a number in the name (probably because they thought P5-2 wasn't very marketable)
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@NoxAeturnus musou is a subgenre of hack and slash. Not every hack and slash is a 'musou'.
'If you remove what makes it different, it's the same' is a stupid argument. The environmental traversal and instanced fighting matter because that's what stops it from being a musou game. Musou games have non-stop battlefields where all the fighting takes place openly on the map. That's not the case here. Everything is exactly the same as P5 but the combat system was changed to be hack and slash, not 'warriors'.
They stated that Persona Warriors was their initial idea but that changed when Atlus said they wanted this to be a full sequel. This is like Three Houses, KT being brought on to co-develop the franchise's next sequel.
Can you stop using words without understanding the meaning? Musou is a type of hack and slash. The hype of hack and slash in P5 Scramble ISNT a musou just as Bayonetta, DMC, Kingdom Hearts and other ARENT musous
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@dedant did you see the bit where the exploration was completely open with the stealth elements like P5 until a fight was engaged which took them into a sectioned off fight like most ARPGs? That's not Warriors. Warriors/musou is running across a Battlefield to either make it to the end while racking up as many kills as possible or capturing objectives while racking up as many kills as possible/needed. This isn't that.
Hack and Slash is the word most commenters are looking for. It's a hack and slash ARPG like KH, Bayonetta, DMC etc.
Here: https://youtu.be/6Gx4cIFByDI
At 1:03:00 it clearly shows the same traversal and exploration of P5 but with instanced hack and slash combat replacing the turn based battles
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@GhostGeneration musuo has a pretty clear meaning and gameplay format which this doesn't fill though. That's what I'm saying. The whole exploration and such functions the same as P5 except the battles are instanced action RPG battles like Kingdom Hearts with the Personas being similar to the legions in Astral Chain. The gameplay is so far removed from 'warriors' or 'musou' titles that to call this one would be as inaccurate as calling Kingdom Hearts, Bayonetta etc 'musou' titles.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
Jesus will no one in these comments take the 2 minutes needed to watch a Gameplay video and see that this game isn't a warriors game.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@NoxAeturnus check out some gameplay. it's not a musou game and it's far from souless
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@GhostGeneration it's not a Warriors game. watch some gameplay.
Re: Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month
@Supadav03 it's a full action RPG like Kingdom Hearts, Astral Chain etc. KT make a lot more than just Warriors such as Three Houses (a strategy RPG) and the Atelier series (RPG) and Dead or Alive (fighter).
Re: Fortnite's Giving All Players Free Skins And Other Goodies For Christmas
@Doofenshmirtz except 'i hate fortnite' is the majority of the comments on any fortnite article on this site.
Re: Birdo Joins Mario Kart Tour's Holiday Event As A Playable Character
Why isn't Birdo and Pauline in MK8D? I get that MK8D is a completely new game if you didn't have the Wii U but I played it tons on Wii U and while I enjoyed the new battle mode, I want more charcaters and tracks. I would happily pay another £40 for a meaty expansion or £60 for a new game. Im not downloading another Nintendo gacha for a chance to play this content.
Re: Anime-Inspired Shoot ‘Em Up Sisters Royale Is Headed To Switch In The West
Looks super boring and generic like most weirdly-framed bullet hells that come out
Re: Guide: Switch, Switch Lite Or 2DS XL? The Nintendo Christmas Console Buying Guide For Parents
@SwitchForce what are you even trying to say with that sentence? It doesn't make sense
Re: Guide: Switch, Switch Lite Or 2DS XL? The Nintendo Christmas Console Buying Guide For Parents
The 2DS XL is really good in general and the catalogue of games on the system is immense with so many gems. My game of the year this year is a 3DS title; Persona Q2. So many genuinely amazing RPGs, adventure games, racing games etc. as well as a good selection of virtual console games. Really well-rounded system with tons of value. The home menu customisation with badges is really addictive as well.