Video: Persona 5 Scramble Treated To Flashy New Trailer, Demo Arrives Next Month

Not sold on the game yet so a demo is most definitely welcome.

Looks more interesting than I'd previously thought...

instead of waiting for the English release which will be a end of the year release you can just import the Japanese version if you really want to play P5S

When does this release in Europe ?

Looks like it has more stuff happening on screen than P5 does by a lot

If they already have this running nicely, Hopefully we have a chance to see P6 on Switch.

Switch buy for sure.

Wait...so is this a “warriors” game or proper RPG?

Give us Persona 5 first, Atlus, and then I may get this sequel.

Did not know that a demo was coming to Japanese eShop. Will be downloading as soon as it becomes available!

guess I'll be playing a Japanese demo next month then

@Supadav03 its a Warriors game, but is a direct sequel to P5. Like P4 Arena was a fighting game sequel to P4

@KBuckley27 that assumes one can read Japanese. Or is it confirmed that the Japanese version includes English subs?

Want to play this game so bad but no NA yet. Wished there was a subtitle for English.

It irritates me when a direct sequel is in a completely different genre. Like, hope you enjoy both kinds of game if you want the story. Loved P5, but I could not be less interested in musou games. The gameplay always feels so empty and soulless.

@NoxAeturnus That's kinda my thing too. I LOVE hack n slash kinda games (the Darksiders series is some of my favorite video game combat ever) so I THOUGHT that I'd be all about musou games. I picked up almost all of the ones available on Switch and each time it's been the same. I have a ton of fun for a little while and then I just fizzle out. I'm not sure why, but it just gets kinda "meh" to me. So, this looks pretty but I have a feeling it'll be more of the same and I think I'l be smart and save my $ this time.

I 100% Completed P5 on PS3, gonna buy Royal on PS4 and really wanna play this too to see if I want it but who am I kidding if it’s like Hyrule Warriors it’s gonna be another day one purchase.

oooh, somehow I missed the demo announcement. Looking forward to that.

@Supadav03 it's a full action RPG like Kingdom Hearts, Astral Chain etc. KT make a lot more than just Warriors such as Three Houses (a strategy RPG) and the Atelier series (RPG) and Dead or Alive (fighter).

@GhostGeneration it's not a Warriors game. watch some gameplay.

@Mando44646 ah gotcha. Thanks. I’ve never played anything in the Persona series but I’d like to on Switch. I’m kinda “Warriors” gamed out but maybe I’ll still give it a go.

@NoxAeturnus check out some gameplay. it's not a musou game and it's far from souless

Jesus will no one in these comments take the 2 minutes needed to watch a Gameplay video and see that this game isn't a warriors game.

@Peterjr1 That looks enough like a musou game to me, but the glory of humanity is our ability to have differing opinions and perceptions. No worries, seems like you're hyped for the game so enjoy!

@GhostGeneration musuo has a pretty clear meaning and gameplay format which this doesn't fill though. That's what I'm saying. The whole exploration and such functions the same as P5 except the battles are instanced action RPG battles like Kingdom Hearts with the Personas being similar to the legions in Astral Chain. The gameplay is so far removed from 'warriors' or 'musou' titles that to call this one would be as inaccurate as calling Kingdom Hearts, Bayonetta etc 'musou' titles.

@Mando44646 you can still play it instead of waiting an extra 7 to 8 months just mush buttons

@Hobbesyall no word on a western release

@Peterjr1 ok nice. Working so I haven’t had a chance to watch any gameplay videos yet. After playing Hyrule Warriors, FE Warriors & DQ Warriors I wasn’t ready to go down that road again for a bit. I’ll have to read up & watch some videos of this tonight. If it’s in the same vein as KH, I will be down with it for sure.

@Peterjr1 huge fan of Persona and Warriors games. Watched the trailer. Definitely looks like a Warriors game.

Dang, Japan gets all the cool stuff

@Peterjr1 Like I said, no worries- to me, it looks like a musou/Warriors-style game. You don't agree, it happens. Enjoy the game, that's all you need to do. Me? I'll be playing something else myself but no ill will here!

I just wish we got an actual English release date soon.

@dedant did you see the bit where the exploration was completely open with the stealth elements like P5 until a fight was engaged which took them into a sectioned off fight like most ARPGs? That's not Warriors. Warriors/musou is running across a Battlefield to either make it to the end while racking up as many kills as possible or capturing objectives while racking up as many kills as possible/needed. This isn't that.

Hack and Slash is the word most commenters are looking for. It's a hack and slash ARPG like KH, Bayonetta, DMC etc.

Here: https://youtu.be/6Gx4cIFByDI
At 1:03:00 it clearly shows the same traversal and exploration of P5 but with instanced hack and slash combat replacing the turn based battles

I've highly enjoyed these Warriors spin-off games (Hyrule, Fire Emblem), but I have no basis to enjoy this one. Atlus, please give me proper P5 on Switch if you expect me to play its sequel.

@Supadav03
Think of Persona 5 but with a mix of Persona and Warriors gameplay during combat

@Peterjr1 Musou IS a hack and slash game. Nothing in the gameplay videos has convinced me that the combat in this game plays any differently than musou. It's been developed as a P5-Dynasty Warriors crossover in conjunction with Koei-Tecmo (Specifically Omega Force, makers of Dynasty Warriors). Who cares if it's in a separate screen and the environmental traversal is the same? This is a musou game.

@NoxAeturnus musou is a subgenre of hack and slash. Not every hack and slash is a 'musou'.
'If you remove what makes it different, it's the same' is a stupid argument. The environmental traversal and instanced fighting matter because that's what stops it from being a musou game. Musou games have non-stop battlefields where all the fighting takes place openly on the map. That's not the case here. Everything is exactly the same as P5 but the combat system was changed to be hack and slash, not 'warriors'.

They stated that Persona Warriors was their initial idea but that changed when Atlus said they wanted this to be a full sequel. This is like Three Houses, KT being brought on to co-develop the franchise's next sequel.

Can you stop using words without understanding the meaning? Musou is a type of hack and slash. The hype of hack and slash in P5 Scramble ISNT a musou just as Bayonetta, DMC, Kingdom Hearts and other ARENT musous

I would say that directly calling it a musou game is a bit of a stretch.. it's definitely heavily inspired combat wise, but even that has some good adjustments from the turnbased part of persona 5. If you think about it, if you take away the combats, it's just like watching a Persona game.

I would say that Scramble is to Warriors that Bayonetta is to Devil May Cry.. same style but still very different

The combat looks like a warriors game to me.

Yay another stupid Musou game. Don't bother to port Persona 5 or anything and make a ton of money. Give us another garbage Musou game instead...

In the trailer it looked like there was a “2” trying to nose in next to the P5 right before being knocked off by the “S”. Is the trailer saying it’s like a sequel to Persona 5 or something?

Let's just all agree that this looks like a musou-ish game and move on with our lives. Some of us think so, and some of us don't. Some of us will like it and some of us won't, but life will go on. Somehow.

@Zach777 Its a direct sequel to P5, yes and yeah the two is there to joke about the fact it's a sequel without a number in the name (probably because they thought P5-2 wasn't very marketable)

@Trmn8r if you took any time to view any gameplay you'd see this is the full sequel to Persona 5 and features almost all the same gameplay except where you'd initiate a turn based battle in P5, you initiate a ARPG battle here. The quality is unquestionably above 'garbage' or 'stupid'. Buy a PS3 or PS4 if you're that desperate for P5 and nothing else.

@GhostGeneration

In the end it's whether it's a good game or not that matters, not what it's labeled as

@Peterjr1 The comments are all about the combat not the overworld and whatever else. Let's see, assloads of enemies that are weak asf and go flying up in the air to be juggled around as a group. Yup Musou. Using Bayonetta and DMC as a counter is a joke. They don't play at all like these games. These types of games suck ass

@Trmn8r the overworld DOESNT have 'assloads of enemies'. A musou game requires the combat be map-based and flooded with enemies. This isnt. The combat when separated from the overworld of a musou is just action RPG combat. That's the whole point of what I'm saying. Kingdom Hearts Bayonetta etc. all have weaklings mixed in with the harder enemies in their combat. You're talking as if you haven't seen anything about this game.

@danemord Yes, that's very true.

@danemord exactly. The only reason I'm here arguing this is that people are incorrectly using the label 'musou' and 'warriors' to deride the game.

@Zach777 Yep, it's the direct sequel of Persona 5. And Atlus intend to sell this game to Switch player without giving us the original first.
Very smart people. Very smart indeed.
It's like Falcom with Trails of Cold Steel 3. Same story. And later they'll complain for not selling enough on Switch...

@Peterjr1 I didn't say overworld had them. I specifically said that people aren't talking about that. Try reading next time. Lol look @0:32 in the fking trailer! You don't see sh*t like that in Bayonetta and DMC. I beat both those games and saw nothing like that. At most you could juggle like 2-3 people tops and it wasn't just swarms of sh*t enemies that you do these global swipes to. You look @0:32 which is gameplay and it looks exactly like every other Dynasty-esque game.

@Peterjr1 I'm glad you will love it. Most of us wanted Persona 5 on the Switch and not this spinoff crap. I can't understand the novelty of these types of games, but if you love it, good for you. I won't be touching it, looks boring asf and a wasted opportunity of a franchise to me...

@Peterjr1 It’s being made by OF, how is it not musou?

@Trmn8r you're talking about the gameplay trailer which is obviously being as flashy as possible.

Gonna quote another comment of mine before I stop replying to you: 'Here: https://youtu.be/6Gx4cIFByDI
At 1:03:00 it clearly shows the same traversal and exploration of P5 but with instanced hack and slash combat replacing the turn based battles'

@Anri02 OF made Dragon Quest Builders and Attack on Titan as well as other non-musou games. It's also being developed with P-Studio (the Persona studio) who were responsible from changing this from a Persona Warriors title to a full sequel. It's already been stated in interviews.

@Peterjr1 Ok, I didn’t know OF made those, so fair enough. However, looking at the gameplay, it’s very musou-esque

I can't wait to try the demo.

I know P5 plays well on PS3 as that was the original platform it was being developed for (and where I own it).

I hope P5S looks and plays just/almost as good on Switch as it does on PS4, given its developed for PS4 too from the start this time.

@Anri02 the 'musou' part of 'musou' is the sprawling battlefields with thousands of enemies to kill. If that's not here, it's a hack and slash RPG like so many others in the genre. This game doesn't have those big battlefields and is structured and plays like P5 except for the battles which are engaged in the same way as P5. The combat you're looking at is ARPG, hack and slash combat. It's not musou.

no this.
I wanna P4.

@Peterjr1 Once again, you completely ignore what I'm saying that I'm talking about the combat and start blabbing about the overworld that no one is talking about. Cool, I saw your video @1:03:00 and see that the overworld has instanced combat encounters. Way to choose an example with a smaller group of enemies, as if that means that the style of the combat isn't still the same. But keep obsessing over the overworld like you made this game and can't handle any criticism of it. Walking up and smacking weak, floaty groups of enemies up in the air for juggle combos is Musou. Here, I'll call it "Instanced Musou with a Traditional ARPG Overworld" there ;P
You obviously hate the word Musou because in reality it means "shitty game" lol! But, like I said before (if you ever actually read anything I said to you), you go enjoy it. I'll take a hard pass and call it for what it is.

#notmyP5
I can't justify buying by the sequel when it'll just spoil the main story.

To those complaining about P5: you can get a PS3 for $80. Or a PS4 slim for $200 new. Quit bellyaching.

@Trajan I think the obvious point was we wanted a portable version of it. And paying $100+ for one game we want is silly.

@Trajan That is sort of the point for me. If the game can run on my dusty old PS3 then running it on the switch should be easy as.

@matdub it could run for sure, but it isn't coming to switch.

Just as an Xbox and ps4 could play BOTW without frame drops. It's an exclusive.

Unfortunately CE is only for ps4. They will loose out Big Time for doing that.

The moment I buy a used copy of P5 and take my old PS3 out of storage, Atlus and Nintendo will announce the Switch port - just you watch. @[email protected];;

@Peterjr1 it's totally a musou

@Peterjr1 The musou part of musou is...wait for it...warriors. It's the fighters. Musou games aren't defined by their environment and battlefields, they're defined by their particular flavor of hack and slash combat. Which again, Scramble has in spades. But honestly? It actually doesn't matter to my original point whether or not it's specifically musou or just a general hack and slash. You're arguing that this isn't a particular tree in the forest, I'm saying it's a crap decision to make this a game about forests when it's a direct story sequel to a game about rivers. Metaphorically speaking.

Isn’t this game like a Warriors spin-off much like Fire Emblem Warriors or Hyrule Warriors?

Two kinds of people in this thread:

1. Looking forward to playing a fun game.
2. Offended game exists and can prove mathematically that is a crap.

Basically it's a Pokemon thread.

@GetShulked It's a warriors crossover, but the story is a direct sequel to the original game. I can ignore a spinoff, but I'd love a sequel...except for the odd choice to completely shift genres.

@nimnio The game looks well designed, and fun...for someone who likes hack and slash games. What's weird, and irritating, and in my opinion a crap decision, is that this is a hack and slash direct story sequel to a game that is not in any way hack and slash. It's like if Fire Emblem Three Houses suddenly had a direct sequel that was a platformer. There's nothing wrong with platformers, it'd just be a weird choice, and people who like FE but not platformers would be a little put out don't you think?

@nimnio You forget the people here complaining that this game is coming to Switch, being a sequel, when the original isn't.
And many other complainers, say that this is bad because the story is directly after P5, and the game has nothing to do with the original (call it however you want, musou, action RPG, hack & slash...)

As you see, a lot of people here are not complaining about the quality of the game...

@Trajan
There's a big difference between P5 coming to switch Vs BOTW being on PS4. BOTW is a Nintendo first party made game while P5 is a third party game not owned by either Sony or Nintendo. Last of Us won't be on switch since it was made by Naughty Dog and Sony owns ND so it's a first party Sony title. Resident Evil 4 was a GameCube exclusive but it was a third party titles and has been ported to everything. Honestly look anywhere and you will not see Persona, Sony and exclusive together anywhere. Saying something is important to said platform does not mean its exclusive.

@GameOtaku From a practical perspective it is the same. Want to play BOTW? Buy a Wii U or Switch. Want to play Persona 5? Buy a PS3 or PS4.

There's a clue on the cover: https://vgboxart.com/boxes/PS4/72424-persona-5.png

The calls for P5 on Switch is due to Smash. We already know Sakurai plays and enjoys games on other platforms. Joker in smash is there for an Atlus rep and Sakurai really likes P5.

The lead artist from God of War likes drawing Smash characters. That doesn't mean Smash is coming to PS4/5, or GOW to Switch.

@Trajan
It's not a practical perspective it's a fact. Mario is only on Nintendo because Nintendo owns the characters and series. Sony owns Last of Us ergo exclusive.

The box of RE4 saying only on GameCube is mocking you.

@Supadav03 more like Warriors actually because you can fight wherever its your turn. Also u can play as anyone.

Only thing l like about the game, l can play as my Yusuke and not just Ren all the time.

@Trajan yep teach those ppl who dont understand. I can tell what your saying

I wont even consider this game unless we get a real Persona title on Switch.

And don't tell me the theories about a shadow exclusivity deal with Sony. I've heard it all before. It's just speculation.

@GameOtaku RE4 was going to be an exclusive for GC, but poor console performance made the game go multiplat. The GC only sold 22 million consoles in its entire life. The PS4 is the best selling console of the generation at 105 million. Add on top of that the 88 million PS3s...

People can keep on hoping but its really annoying. If you really want to play it it is widely available on two very popular consoles. There was never a reasonable expectation that Switch would ever get a Persona game. The only guarantees are Nintendo exclusives and SMT 5. Anyone who purchased a Switch expecting different is foolish.

@Trajan
SMT is not a Nintendo exclusive either as 3 Nocturne was on PS2.
Not everyone has a lot of money to buy every console every generation. Switch is outselling ps4 and is extremely popular it makes no sense for Sega not to bite and port 5.

@GameOtaku That's probably because NOA wouldn't allow the games to be published in North America due to their themes.

Switch is currently selling more per month than the PS4 or PS3 (is it even still in production?), but it hasn't eclipsed it. With PS5 being backwards compatible, having a device to play that game becomes even more numerous.

If someone can only own one console, then they should use due dilligence to determine which set of games they want to play that is available on that console. The fact is there are over 190 million devices that can play P5. If you want to play P5 you easily can.

@GAMER1984dude2 You mean Persona 5?? As if it was created by Sony, or something... P5 could perfectly well come to Switch, it´s just up to Atlus. Don´t compare it with Zelda, come on man.

@GameOtaku - To be fair, even if you got a PS4 and Switch, you still wouldn't have every console this gen.
@Heavyarms55 @the_beaver - It wouldn't be the first time a 3rd party title has been tied to a Playstation console (Street Fighter V anyone) and the fact it hasn't hit the Xbox One (or PC for that matter) unlike other, bigger Japanese titles like Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy XV seems to suggest something's going on, just not what.

On topic, is it just me, or are the gameplay videos becoming less and less musou-like and more and more akin to Kingdom Hearts? Not that I'm complaining, just surprised given the initial trailer made it seem like it was going to be a straight Warriors spin-off, and now it's looking like that's only going to be part of the experience, rather than the entirety of it.
Also, I like how the S in the logo at the end initially popped out as a 2, all-but-confirming it as a sequel rather than a spin-off.

@FullMetalWesker
The main problem most don't realize is that all characters in Smash (except Joker) have mainline games on Nintendo platforms. Just as the original commercial states "something has gone wrong in the world of Nintendo ". Sakurais choice just gave us extra ammunition for a port. Had it been Flynn it would have been a SMT 5 plug.

@GameOtaku - (dunno how this is relevant, but okay) To be fair, most characters in Smash are Nintendo characters, so it makes sense they'd have mainline games on Nintendo platforms.
As for the third-party characters, true, most did, but there is one exception, that being Cloud, whose one mainline game (FFVII) wasn't released on a Nintendo system until a few years after his inclusion in Smash. A few others (Ryu/Ken, Snake, Banjo) also technically count, but are a bit iffy (Metal Gear and Street Fighter haven't exactly been that cozy with Nintendo, and Banjo is an out-and-out Microsoft franchise).
Finally, Persona 5 Scramble is actually a mainline entry, a sequel to Persona 5 the same way Lightning Returns was a sequel to FFXIII, and given Joker is a protagonist for Persona 5, rather than the series as a whole (like Cloud) I'd say it still counts (or at least, it's no worse than Cloud's situation).

@FullMetalWesker
Final Fantasy games have been on Nintendo platforms though. Metal Gear also got its start on Nintendo and you can't talk N64 without Banjo. Persona though is not while SMT is.

Given its a sequel they can't assume everyone has previously played P5 especially switch owners. Honestly I wouldn't care if SMT was ported to other consoles that just means more people can play it. Same with Persona.

@danemord It's a musou game. It's a musou game that actually has a lot of other MODERN game stuff going on it. Explorable areas, a REAL story, etc. But it is essentially just a musou game with all the other game bits one expects from a modern game.

Oh, cool! I will play demo on my Nintendo Switch and if it good enough, I'll buy it on my PS4.

@Heavyarms55 OK so if there isn't a exclusive deal between Sony and Atlus which I do think is the sole reason then why hasn't Persona 5 been ported to the Switch? Atlus are a company that needs all the money they can get, they don't make a lot yet P5 is not on Switch

@Dang69

...okay, I'll take the bait because this starts getting irritating.

From an interview with Kazutoshi Sekiguchi:

“Our company has many Persona fans, at first they proposed a ‘Persona Musou (Warriors)’. However, in the story-filling stage, we decided to make it into something that delves deeper into the characters of Persona 5. After some twists-and-turns, it ended up becoming an action-RPG that told a continuation of Persona 5.”

That's the official statement. It was supposed to be a musou game, but it became an action-RPG. People have right to different opinions, but at the end of the day, the company behind musou games have the right to DEFINE what is a part of their musou games and what is not. Let's just leave it at that.

@danemord I read that too. But also have watched gameplay videos, lol. Planning on buying this is if I ever finish the first game, so Im not talking crap. But that quote is more of a thing said in an interview to broaden the appeal of the game.

@Dang69

Okay, sorry I had no idea. Can you please give me the source where it states that it's just a thing said in an interview to broaden the appeal of the game so I can use it for later reference?

@danemord I might get a woooosh from you for replying to this, lol, but that's my opinion that such a thing in an interview like that is used to broaden the appeal of the game, especially given the stigma Warriors games can have. I mean they would never say, "this is just another Warriors game thru and thru but with more content inbetween the action." They seem to have given it MORE to do than just action than most if any other musou games I can think of. Legit story, ACTUAL exploration, hubs, etc. But the gameplay looks like a musou game. The gameplay is what ultimately makes the game a game, right? This is just a actually modernized version of the dusty old format. So if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but is very pretty, it's probably not a swan, just a really fancy duck.

@KBuckley27 I don't know the reason, I've just never seen or heard of evidence of secret back room deals. Why hide that sort of thing? It's gaming, not politics.

@GameOtaku - Except Cloud isn't the main protagonist for the series, just FF VII, just as Joker is the protagonist for Persona 5, rather than the series as a whole. Saying that Cloud is okay because FF 1-6 were released on Nintendo consoles is akin to saying Joker would be fine if Persona 1 were released on the N64.
Also, not really. Metal Gear was originally released on the MSX, then ported (with alterations) by Konami to the NES apparently without consent from the dev team. So while it exists, The NES was not the original platform, and Kojima has apparently distanced himself from the port because of the changes made.
True, but because Banjo belongs to Microsoft, the only way to access those games legally is to go out of your way to purchase a N64 and the games from places like Ebay/Amazon etc.

......and? Is it any worse than not being able to play Cloud's title when he was released? Or Marth/Roy/Lucas's? Plus, there's probably going to be a recap thing in the game for those who haven't played P5, so it's unlikely they'll miss out on any important details.

@FullMetalWesker
100s of hours of story condensed into 2 paragraphs isn't really gonna cut it. FF as a whole is represented by Cloud. It's more about Nintendo gaming legacy. Banjo is synonymous with 64, outside of Japan metal gear had its start on the nes (and his inclusion in brawl may be plugging Twin Snakes) and the FE characters are obvious since they are Nintendo ips. Jokers inclusion signaled to most of us a huge thing was happening. If Persona really is exclusive to Sony then it's obvious Sony wouldn't agree to his being in smash. This to me feels like Atlus is trolling Nintendo fans (SMT 5 is nowhere to be seen but 5R and 5S certainly are out front and center). The majority of us would day one buy P5 for switch and we have let ourselves be known loud and clear.

@GameOtaku - Are you serious right now?
That's an exaggeration, no game has 100's of hours of story, and no, it's not going to be summarised into two paragraphs. Also let's be real, the only thing your average player really needs to know is the main story and how it relates to the events in this game.
No he isn't. Even if he was, it doesn't change that he's the main protagonist for VII and his story was unavailable when he was added. Again, if Persona 1 were released on the N64, would you be okay with Joker's inclusion?
"Banjo is synonymous with 64" How is this a counter-point?
"Outside of Japan" Why does this matter? The first game came out on the MSX, that's where it started. Trying to shift the goalposts by adding random parameters like "Outside Japan" is ridiculous if you're talking about where a franchise 'got it's start'.
" FE characters are obvious since they are Nintendo ips." Sorry, what?
"Jokers inclusion signaled to most of us a huge thing was happening." Did it though? I mean, did any of the other smash reveals signify anything?
"If Persona really is exclusive to Sony then it's obvious Sony wouldn't agree to his being in smash"
Not necessarily, given Scramble is being released on the platform.
"This to me feels like Atlus is trolling Nintendo fans"
You know companies don't actually do that though, right?

@FullMetalWesker
Yes if persona was on Nintendo jokers inclusion would've been justified. I'm dead serious. Cloud represented the FF series as a whole (you can't really say any other characters in FF come close to being as recognized as him). You think N64 and I gurantee you think Banjo-Kazooie.

Just look at the smash reveals for the fighter pack! It's obvious it's just being used to promote upcoming games! Terry in smash? Snk is releasing Samurai Shodown. The hero from DQ? Dragon quest 11. Banjo? A bit of a long shot choice but Nintendo has been getting games exclusive to Microsoft so a Banjo collection may not be to far out. Byleth? 3 houses expansion.

I personally care about playing the original first and then the sequel and I'm positive others feel the same way. We don't want Atlus sloppy seconds. We should be able to experience the game in all its glory. A quick summary of hundreds of hours of character development and story is simply not gonna cut it. If you looked at Atlus like a internet troll you'd agree but you say it's a big difference? Atlus announced 5R. Atlus announced 5S. Joker is announced for smash. Persona has not appeared on Nintendo prior to this, ergo with his inclusion 5S was a port of P5 for switch.