I liked the infrastructure of the first one, but damn if I didn’t go nuts redoing the last steps over and over. Really felt like 1/2 a game stretched out to make it work.
FATES. Birthright. I am then waiting on a pristine copy of Sacred Stones, which I will coin toss between that and Shadow Dragon. Then the other. After? Fates: Conquest, of course. After, do I replay Awakening or Echoes? So many good Fire Emblem options.
I am literally about to go into a convulsive shock.
Chucklefish.. HOW DARE YOU. This choice of individual for this part is, quite literally, beyond racism and bigotry and a new word would be needed to fully encapsulate how hateful, insane and racist this is.
What. The. Actual. F*ck. I literally can no believe something as hideous and vile as this could even happen, what's next? I am crying. I am that upset right now. I am in shock.
This monster belongs in jail. Honestly, I can not support this game any longer, just his past association with it and now knowing the depth of his hatred, bigotry, intolerance and insanity, it taints the entire thing. As I type this, I am literally shaking. I am that upset. I don't know how this Marco man thinks Nazis are jokes.
[Removed] Mods: there is absolutely no reason to bring the POTUS into this discussion.
Too little, too late. This minor cryptic message is literally nothing. At the current rate that the US is dumping toxicity on our precious planet, it is only a matter of months before the entire planet is unlivable. ALL life will cease, thanks to capitalism. We had one chance, the Green New Deal, and the majority white criminal politicians shut it down because a brown femayle was the spokesbeing. Congratulations, we all will die thanks to racism and bigotry, 100% because of Trump
When I played the game, I always like to meta-envision high levels of diversity, especially with games like this where everyone is (yetch) white. So for me EVERY character was gay. To that end, Sylvando was the clearly best of them all.
Bold prediction: thrice the sales of Fire Emblem Three Houses. FE3H had good opening sales but a massive fall off after people actually played it and the stink got out. This promising game might not hit as hard but will undoubtedly perform better on the weeks that follow.
Sad. Fuming. Crying. Want to scream. Unless it’s someone leaking Drumpf’s plans to strong arm Ukraine at the behest of his Russian masters, there should be NO leaking, ever. This makes me literally want to scream helplessly at the sky.
Great main character, which after that guy from 3, was very welcome. I haven’t played this version but I have played the vita port on a large TV and it looked perfectly fine.
The second major failure of 2019, after the crash and burn of Fire Emblem: Three Houses. Put these two lame ducks out to pasture, let both be forgotten and struck from our collective memory.
I didn't grasp this from the article: turn based option or only real time with pause? "Tactics Mode" implies a turn-based option, but you can never be too sure...
I was a big fan at the time of the Temple of Elemental Evil approach, where it was real time until combat hit - at which point it became turn-based, which really is the best and most straightforward way to play dungeons and dragons. I tried playing a real time campaign with my friends and it just really got muddled fast and the table got knocked over in the chaos which ensued. Don't try it.
I played and won the first one probably a dozen times, both on IOS and Switch. I have easily logged at least 300 hours total playing this game. I am a cat fanatic, I love cats, cats are life, cats are the best and if someone doesn't like cats I will literally get angry about it and confront them, violently if necessary. However I think I will pass on this one.
Playing this now, such a great jrpg. I actually appreciate the more sandbox and simple approach, although I recommend the harder monster configuration. Wish you could juggle those off and on more rather than them only being available at the start and permanently off once you dismiss one. Otherwise, beautiful, well voice acted and fun
@Alucard83 Thanks, I am actually playing DQ8 on the 3ds so random encounters haven't been a problem. I just ordered VII for the DS and hopefully it's random fights don't ruin it for me when I get around to it. I'm thinking of working on 8 and then looking at other titles in my backlog before I then get XI
I can hear the creaking of the beams. Is that the sound of impending financial doom I hear? Games live and breathe on their DLC these days and with the utterly tepid late game response to Fire Emblem: Three Houses, a smart man would bet everything they had on this DLC flopping like an inebriated moose with two hooves tied together. More and more Fire Emblem: Three Houses proves that it does not have any sustainability and with every passing day fades more and ever more into obscurity.
This rather bs hassle is probably why I won't be double dipping with a mini, although having a switch that really has a good handheld experience would be great. I play my Switch desktop sometimes but mainly console. Just don't like it as a handheld.
Couple things, though. Yes, this save file stuff sucks. Also, even desktop with the full size switch, a lot of games are hard to play/read. I didn't see some kind of magnifying tech here to increase size, not sure I want to break out my reading glasses. Last, this is the first iteration, I have to wonder what else will come down the path. Perhaps a weird hybrid Switch/3ds or something that was BC with 3ds. A long shot, but I really love the clamshell design, and I have a ton of good games on backlog with my 3ds I haven't even played once, much less all the great ones I would revisit.
Making an Indy game can be dangerous, especially for womyn. I think about Zoe Quinn and all the abuse this poor girl has endured and it’s almost beyond hubeing limits. Xe has suffered so much that I am often just fall down and openly weep if I dwell on it too long
This should give us all hope that other region-locked gems of the past will find their way to western/worldwide releases. I remember back in the day my friend had a hacked Sega Genesis and was playing this Japan-Only game that looked incredibly fun. He said it was called "Shining Force" and I have longed to play that game ever since. I just hope someday they localize it and I am finally able to play it in my native language.
Remastered? Hopefully they are both also updated, by this I mean - more Diversity, pushing modern agendas and not sitting on the sidelines in the modern day Cultural Civil War.
Looks great! I am able to suspend my real-life knowledge that there are no such things as ghosts, of course, but beyond that issue the gameplay looks like a lot of fun
We should put this in perspective. First, a lot of the time these digital sales are misreported, this is commonly known and part of me wonders if maybe someone over at (Un)Intelligent Systems or Nintendo weren't quietly putting their foot on the scale or sending a memo to their accounting departments to, as they say in the business, put a little "spice" on the sales figures.
Secondly, even at face value, the phrase, "Big Whoop" comes immediately to mind. So this game, which was heavily marketed and pushed and propped up like Bernie Lomax managed to make a few digital sales... at launch. Well, come back and tell me about retention, because retention is the ONLY dog in this race that truly matters. You know, Dexy's Midnight Runners, ever heard of them? No, me neither. Nobody has. Fire Emblem: Three Houses can be the "Come on Eileen" of 2019, because if all it has are a few digital sales and little retention, then it's no different than any other One-Hit-Wonder.
Let's all take a step back, shelve all your little waifu pillows for just one second, take a deep breath and for once look at this whole thing with a little perspective. Here already this so-called news is already almost pushed off the first page. There are more, bigger and better things to discuss about the Nintendo Switch. Fire Emblem: Three Houses is a flash in the pan, I won't deny it made an initial impact, but just like that drunk dufus who shows up to the party wearing a lampshade and making a fool of himself, yes - everyone takes notice but once that clown passes out, it's GOOD RIDDANCE and GOODBYE.
Fire Emblem: Three Houses, okay you were (overly) promoted and pushed down everyone's throats and thanks to insane levels of marketing you made a few sales here and there, but unlike some people I am always looking forward. I'm not fooled by some shenanigans and likely fake numbers.
Looking amazing, let's all just hope it has longer legs than previous releases that made a semi-big impact but almost immediately faded into utter obscurity. This looks to be a winner!
Good, this is good to hear. I feel like the Nintendo Switch is at a crossroads and for the first time ever, more vulnerable than it's ever been since it launched.
With the catastrophic failure of Fire Emblem: Three Houses, the Switch has shown it's not a sure fire money making machine and there is a very legitimate chance that a failure like this could sink the entire platform and with it, possibly Nintendo itself.
I just pray to Mother Earth and the forest spirits that hopefully the Witcher 3 is a bonifide success and can help ease the pain of the failed Fire Emblem franchise to make any impact or do anything beyond fail on an epic scale.
People often like to look at things like the launch and take this one tiny little piece of information and extrapolate from that success vs. failure.
Wrong.
What matters more is the retention. Fire Emblem: 3H was barely at the top a couple of weeks and was unceremoniously dethroned almost immediately by Crash Racers or whatever.
THAT is what matters here and it's a dark signal that this game was not a success and will very likely go down as a dumpster fire failure of Epic proportions.
I will again express my concern: I just hope this utter failure isn't so great that it drags Nintendo down with it. Nintendo has managed to eek by in the past with failures, like the WiiU, but I don't know about this one.
This looks interesting but I just am not too into growing things or farming. What I like the most are cats. Do you think there is a mode where you can raise cats instead of planting things?
Looks really great, as someone else above said - getting some strong Darkest Dungeon vibe... although I wasn't a big fan of the Switch port, I might be in the minority, but I had UI issues. Some games are just made for the PC.
Hopefully this is a good game, I'm looking over reviews right now and not seeing any that seem like it was a home run, although these rebalance changes hopefully hit the mark
Wow, what a short time at the top, almost pathetic really. This makes me really think this is the final nail in the coffin of the Fire Emblem franchise, getting whacked like a silly little boy so easily has to be a complete embarrassment. This, coupled with them hiring a disgusting pervert voice act-individual, this failure is one of the biggest stories of the year --- not just in video games either, it's really the most newsworthy thing happening right now.
My only concern here is that this sinking Fire Emblem ship doesn't take Nintendo down with it.
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Re: Get Excited Dood, NIS America Is Teasing New Announcements For PAX South 2020
@gcunit Disgaea 3? Not a good choice, 2 wouldn’t be a stretch, it’s still well regarded
Re: Producer And Composer Of Bravely Default II Share Their Thoughts Following The Big Reveal
I liked the infrastructure of the first one, but damn if I didn’t go nuts redoing the last steps over and over. Really felt like 1/2 a game stretched out to make it work.
Re: Review: Heroland - A Fun Twist On The RPG Genre Which Loses Its Novelty Too Quickly
The sounds were off putting
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 14th)
I will be playing Fire Emblem....
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FATES. Birthright. I am then waiting on a pristine copy of Sacred Stones, which I will coin toss between that and Shadow Dragon. Then the other. After? Fates: Conquest, of course. After, do I replay Awakening or Echoes? So many good Fire Emblem options.
Re: Top Nintendo Switch Games Are Now Up To 50% Off To Celebrate The Game Awards (North America)
@cherryghost41 It's a fun game, great mechanics. The story isn't horrible but it's split in 8 directions and sort of jumbled because of it.
Re: Switch Estimated To Have Sold More Than 50,000 Units On Launch Day In China
Amazing news. China: proving again it is the premier country, leading the way and a wonderful utopia!
Re: Nintendo Reveals The Top 30 Switch eShop Games Of November 2019 (North America)
Surprised Quest for the Golden Duck was beaten by FE:3H, but it was VERY close
Re: Trine 4: The Nightmare Prince Gets Free Toby The Dog DLC, Available To All Players Now
I’m not sure how I feel about speciesm in games designed for youth individuals. Wait.... I do: it’s wrong.
Re: Warhammer 40,000: Space Wolf Brings Turn-Based Tactical Strategy To Switch Next Month
This is not the WH40K game we've been waiting for on the Switch.
Re: Chucklefish Issues Apology For Voice Actor Casting Choices In Wargroove's DLC
I am livid.
I am shaking.
I am literally about to go into a convulsive shock.
Chucklefish.. HOW DARE YOU. This choice of individual for this part is, quite literally, beyond racism and bigotry and a new word would be needed to fully encapsulate how hateful, insane and racist this is.
What. The. Actual. F*ck. I literally can no believe something as hideous and vile as this could even happen, what's next? I am crying. I am that upset right now. I am in shock.
Re: Footballing Legend Marco van Basten Is Pulled From FIFA 20 Following Nazi "Joke"
This monster belongs in jail. Honestly, I can not support this game any longer, just his past association with it and now knowing the depth of his hatred, bigotry, intolerance and insanity, it taints the entire thing. As I type this, I am literally shaking. I am that upset. I don't know how this Marco man thinks Nazis are jokes.
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Re: Dungeon-Crawling RPG Moero Chronicle Hyper Is Receiving A Limited Run Physical Release On Switch
As an ardent Male Feminist I WILL NOT TOLERATE scantily clad femayles or fan service. Hopefully this game has none of that, or I WILL get upset.
Re: Pokémon Sword And Shield's Pokédex Contains A Dire Warning About Climate Change
Too little, too late. This minor cryptic message is literally nothing. At the current rate that the US is dumping toxicity on our precious planet, it is only a matter of months before the entire planet is unlivable. ALL life will cease, thanks to capitalism. We had one chance, the Green New Deal, and the majority white criminal politicians shut it down because a brown femayle was the spokesbeing. Congratulations, we all will die thanks to racism and bigotry, 100% because of Trump
Re: Video: Dragon Quest XI S Producers Reveal Their Favourite Characters And More In Quickfire Q+A
When I played the game, I always like to meta-envision high levels of diversity, especially with games like this where everyone is (yetch) white. So for me EVERY character was gay. To that end, Sylvando was the clearly best of them all.
Re: Random: Fire Emblem: Three Houses Gets Pretty Scary When Characters Don't Have Heads
WORST GAME of 2019.
This headlessness only makes its many flaws all the more apparent
Re: Idea Factory's Desert RPG Arc Of Alchemist Gets A Local eShop Release Early Next Year
Bold prediction: thrice the sales of Fire Emblem Three Houses. FE3H had good opening sales but a massive fall off after people actually played it and the stink got out. This promising game might not hit as hard but will undoubtedly perform better on the weeks that follow.
Re: The Overwatch 2 Leak Was Extremely Demoralising For The Development Team
Sad. Fuming. Crying. Want to scream. Unless it’s someone leaking Drumpf’s plans to strong arm Ukraine at the behest of his Russian masters, there should be NO leaking, ever. This makes me literally want to scream helplessly at the sky.
Re: Review: Disgaea 4 Complete+ - An Often Overwhelming SRPG That Genre Veterans Will Adore
Great main character, which after that guy from 3, was very welcome. I haven’t played this version but I have played the vita port on a large TV and it looked perfectly fine.
Re: Call Of Juarez: Gunslinger Is Riding Onto The Nintendo Switch This December
@brandonbwii these games constantly press WHITE narratives, literally it’s the most racist thing ever.
Re: Review: Zombieland: Double Tap - Road Trip - Undead, Unfunny And Unnecessary
The second major failure of 2019, after the crash and burn of Fire Emblem: Three Houses. Put these two lame ducks out to pasture, let both be forgotten and struck from our collective memory.
Re: Review: Planescape: Torment & Icewind Dale Enhanced Edition - Two Very Different RPG Gems
I didn't grasp this from the article: turn based option or only real time with pause? "Tactics Mode" implies a turn-based option, but you can never be too sure...
I was a big fan at the time of the Temple of Elemental Evil approach, where it was real time until combat hit - at which point it became turn-based, which really is the best and most straightforward way to play dungeons and dragons. I tried playing a real time campaign with my friends and it just really got muddled fast and the table got knocked over in the chaos which ensued. Don't try it.
Re: Adorable Co-Op RPG Cat Quest II Pounces Onto Switch Later This Month
I played and won the first one probably a dozen times, both on IOS and Switch. I have easily logged at least 300 hours total playing this game. I am a cat fanatic, I love cats, cats are life, cats are the best and if someone doesn't like cats I will literally get angry about it and confront them, violently if necessary. However I think I will pass on this one.
Re: Japanese Charts: Dragon Quest XI S Knocks Zelda: Link's Awakening Off Top Spot
Playing this now, such a great jrpg. I actually appreciate the more sandbox and simple approach, although I recommend the harder monster configuration. Wish you could juggle those off and on more rather than them only being available at the start and permanently off once you dismiss one. Otherwise, beautiful, well voice acted and fun
Re: Feature: Best Nintendo Switch RPGs
@DockEllisD Kemco: soulless husks marauding as games.
Re: Feature: Best Nintendo Switch RPGs
So glad Fire Emblem: Three Houses was left off this list. Worst RPG to come out in a long time.
Re: Poll: Four Dragon Quest Games Are Out Today On Switch, Which Are You Getting?
Fyi most probably know but there is a long demo of XI freely available, 10+ hours of gameplay. It’s great but I think I need to finish 8 first
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (September 21st)
Hardly a soul playing Fire Emblem, despite them releasing a "big" DLC pack.
Unsurprising.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Is Appearing On Next Week's Dragon Quest XI S Launch Stream
@Alucard83 Thanks, I am actually playing DQ8 on the 3ds so random encounters haven't been a problem. I just ordered VII for the DS and hopefully it's random fights don't ruin it for me when I get around to it. I'm thinking of working on 8 and then looking at other titles in my backlog before I then get XI
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Is Appearing On Next Week's Dragon Quest XI S Launch Stream
How does this compare to VIII?
I just started 8 recently and am enjoying it but the cramped too-close camera is annoying me
Re: Upcoming Fire Emblem: Three Houses DLC Reportedly Detailed Ahead Of Release
I can hear the creaking of the beams. Is that the sound of impending financial doom I hear? Games live and breathe on their DLC these days and with the utterly tepid late game response to Fire Emblem: Three Houses, a smart man would bet everything they had on this DLC flopping like an inebriated moose with two hooves tied together. More and more Fire Emblem: Three Houses proves that it does not have any sustainability and with every passing day fades more and ever more into obscurity.
Re: Guide: How To Share Games And Saves Across A Nintendo Switch And Switch Lite
This rather bs hassle is probably why I won't be double dipping with a mini, although having a switch that really has a good handheld experience would be great. I play my Switch desktop sometimes but mainly console. Just don't like it as a handheld.
Couple things, though. Yes, this save file stuff sucks. Also, even desktop with the full size switch, a lot of games are hard to play/read. I didn't see some kind of magnifying tech here to increase size, not sure I want to break out my reading glasses. Last, this is the first iteration, I have to wonder what else will come down the path. Perhaps a weird hybrid Switch/3ds or something that was BC with 3ds. A long shot, but I really love the clamshell design, and I have a ton of good games on backlog with my 3ds I haven't even played once, much less all the great ones I would revisit.
Re: Indiecalypse Is A Video Game All About Indie Developers Making A Video Game
@FrowningCoach Flagged as a BAD or inappropriate comment. LEAVE ZOE ALONE
Re: Indiecalypse Is A Video Game All About Indie Developers Making A Video Game
Making an Indy game can be dangerous, especially for womyn. I think about Zoe Quinn and all the abuse this poor girl has endured and it’s almost beyond hubeing limits. Xe has suffered so much that I am often just fall down and openly weep if I dwell on it too long
Re: Fire Emblem: Three Houses Patch Revises Sensitive Dialogue
Too little, too late.
Fire Emblem launched with okay sales but more and more is proving to be THE failure of 2019
Re: Japan-Only 'Anti-RPG' Moon Is Getting A Worldwide Switch Release 22 Years Later
This should give us all hope that other region-locked gems of the past will find their way to western/worldwide releases. I remember back in the day my friend had a hacked Sega Genesis and was playing this Japan-Only game that looked incredibly fun. He said it was called "Shining Force" and I have longed to play that game ever since. I just hope someday they localize it and I am finally able to play it in my native language.
Re: Video: Panic Button's Torchlight II Is Out On Switch Today, Here's A New Trailer
@scubydo I'd be interested to know if they had local MP, too.
Re: This Official Switch Lite Flip Cover Looks Perfect For Keeping Your Console Safe
@PharoneTheGnome A Switch-lite BC with the 3ds would be phenomenal, insta buy
Re: This Official Switch Lite Flip Cover Looks Perfect For Keeping Your Console Safe
This might just have forced my hand to get a Switch Lite. Looks fantastic
Re: Override: Mech City Brawl Is Smashing Its Way To Switch
Looks solid! Very interested
Re: Aladdin And The Lion King Are Reportedly Being Remastered For Switch
Remastered? Hopefully they are both also updated, by this I mean - more Diversity, pushing modern agendas and not sitting on the sidelines in the modern day Cultural Civil War.
Re: Video: Check Out 30 Minutes Of Ghoul-Filled Gardens In Luigi's Mansion 3
Looks great! I am able to suspend my real-life knowledge that there are no such things as ghosts, of course, but beyond that issue the gameplay looks like a lot of fun
Re: Fire Emblem: Three Houses Experiences "Best Digital Launch" In Franchise's History
We should put this in perspective. First, a lot of the time these digital sales are misreported, this is commonly known and part of me wonders if maybe someone over at (Un)Intelligent Systems or Nintendo weren't quietly putting their foot on the scale or sending a memo to their accounting departments to, as they say in the business, put a little "spice" on the sales figures.
Secondly, even at face value, the phrase, "Big Whoop" comes immediately to mind. So this game, which was heavily marketed and pushed and propped up like Bernie Lomax managed to make a few digital sales... at launch. Well, come back and tell me about retention, because retention is the ONLY dog in this race that truly matters. You know, Dexy's Midnight Runners, ever heard of them? No, me neither. Nobody has. Fire Emblem: Three Houses can be the "Come on Eileen" of 2019, because if all it has are a few digital sales and little retention, then it's no different than any other One-Hit-Wonder.
Let's all take a step back, shelve all your little waifu pillows for just one second, take a deep breath and for once look at this whole thing with a little perspective. Here already this so-called news is already almost pushed off the first page. There are more, bigger and better things to discuss about the Nintendo Switch. Fire Emblem: Three Houses is a flash in the pan, I won't deny it made an initial impact, but just like that drunk dufus who shows up to the party wearing a lampshade and making a fool of himself, yes - everyone takes notice but once that clown passes out, it's GOOD RIDDANCE and GOODBYE.
Fire Emblem: Three Houses, okay you were (overly) promoted and pushed down everyone's throats and thanks to insane levels of marketing you made a few sales here and there, but unlike some people I am always looking forward. I'm not fooled by some shenanigans and likely fake numbers.
Nope, sorry.
Re: Check Out The Classic 2D Action In Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games Tokyo 2020
Looking amazing, let's all just hope it has longer legs than previous releases that made a semi-big impact but almost immediately faded into utter obscurity. This looks to be a winner!
Re: The Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt Gets An October Release Date On Switch
Good, this is good to hear. I feel like the Nintendo Switch is at a crossroads and for the first time ever, more vulnerable than it's ever been since it launched.
With the catastrophic failure of Fire Emblem: Three Houses, the Switch has shown it's not a sure fire money making machine and there is a very legitimate chance that a failure like this could sink the entire platform and with it, possibly Nintendo itself.
I just pray to Mother Earth and the forest spirits that hopefully the Witcher 3 is a bonifide success and can help ease the pain of the failed Fire Emblem franchise to make any impact or do anything beyond fail on an epic scale.
Re: Fire Emblem: Three Houses Becomes The Largest Fire Emblem Launch In US History
People often like to look at things like the launch and take this one tiny little piece of information and extrapolate from that success vs. failure.
Wrong.
What matters more is the retention. Fire Emblem: 3H was barely at the top a couple of weeks and was unceremoniously dethroned almost immediately by Crash Racers or whatever.
THAT is what matters here and it's a dark signal that this game was not a success and will very likely go down as a dumpster fire failure of Epic proportions.
I will again express my concern: I just hope this utter failure isn't so great that it drags Nintendo down with it. Nintendo has managed to eek by in the past with failures, like the WiiU, but I don't know about this one.
Re: Doraemon Story Of Seasons Harvests An October Release On Switch
@tzahn I tried cattails but it was just too violent for my tastes.
Re: Doraemon Story Of Seasons Harvests An October Release On Switch
This looks interesting but I just am not too into growing things or farming. What I like the most are cats. Do you think there is a mode where you can raise cats instead of planting things?
Re: RPG Vambrace: Cold Soul Scores Switch Release Date And Major Gameplay Improvements
Looks really great, as someone else above said - getting some strong Darkest Dungeon vibe... although I wasn't a big fan of the Switch port, I might be in the minority, but I had UI issues. Some games are just made for the PC.
Hopefully this is a good game, I'm looking over reviews right now and not seeing any that seem like it was a home run, although these rebalance changes hopefully hit the mark
Re: UK Charts: Fire Emblem's Reign Is Over As Crash Team Racing Speeds Into First Place
Wow, what a short time at the top, almost pathetic really. This makes me really think this is the final nail in the coffin of the Fire Emblem franchise, getting whacked like a silly little boy so easily has to be a complete embarrassment. This, coupled with them hiring a disgusting pervert voice act-individual, this failure is one of the biggest stories of the year --- not just in video games either, it's really the most newsworthy thing happening right now.
My only concern here is that this sinking Fire Emblem ship doesn't take Nintendo down with it.
Re: The Early Switch Lite Leak That Actually Turned Out To Be Real
Honestly, I still doubt this. We will see. Until I actually see one for real, it’s ALL speculation