They bit off more than they could chew. Creating a new franchise and making a multi-platform game out of it is already difficult, but actually wanting to create a whole universe of cartoons, live action movie and toys is just overly ambitious and gives off a "greedy" vibe to the whole project.
I would prefer to buy digital if only the Wii U had more than a measly 32GB of memory! Because of that, I buy physical copies of Wii U games and leave my memory available for Virtual Console downloads and save files...
@andyg1971 Why not??? I've heard that emulating the Super FX chip might be an issue, but it's not impossible. And Nintendo owns all of the publishing rights to Star Fox SNES!
It would be so cool if they put it on the VC to get people pumped for Star Fox Zero!
@jakysnakydx
Exactly!
One single series line for all Nintendo characters would have been the best option. It would rule out repeat characters and they would all look good beside one another.
Just think if Nintendo chooses to release a Legend of Zelda line for Zelda Wii U. People will have to repurchase Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, etc...... or if they buy characters they don't have, they won't match with the Smash Bros version of Link, Zelda........
I think Nintendo should have released their amiibo in a different fashion. They should have done specific collections for each gaming series (like they did with the Super Mario line and what they are apparently going to do with the Animal Crossing line).
The Smash Brothers line basically included every single main character in every Nintendo series, and now if Nintendo decides to launch more game specific figures, it will force people to repurchase certain characters (which some may be unwilling to do...).
@Rascal0302 First of all, why would you assume that I don't own other gaming systems? Nothing I wrote in my original post had anything to do with bashing one console maker over another; my critique was of Rare's output ever since they were bought out by Microsoft. Don't assume people are "fanboys" without any evidence. Second, how do you know I have "no firsthand knowledge" of the Rare games published after the Nintendo days. Again, you're assuming things... Third, you admit that out of the past 10+ years, you consider only 3 of the games Rare published to be "incredible". The Viva Pinata games are alright, but I can surely state that most gamers would not consider Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts to be a worthy sequel (or even a good game for that matter). JonTron has a hilarious video on the matter here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l69BP1uhlMs . And Kameo was a holdover from the Gamecube days when much of the original Rare staff were still onboard. That all being said, Microsoft bought Rare in 2002 for US$375 million dollars. Now just ask yourself a question, from a business standpoint, do you really think that games like Viva Pinata, Nuts & Bolts and Kameo were worth that price tag??? Also, fun trivia: Microsoft thought they were getting the Donkey Kong franchise when they made the purchase https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/microsoft_execs_thought_they_owned_donkey_kong_after_acquiring_rare
A lot of Rare employees were already leaving the company right before Microsoft purchased it. Given Rare's track record on Microsoft consoles, I think it's fair to say that Nintendo dodged a bullet in not buying up Rareware...
@earthboundlink Yes! My mistake lol It would be so nice if Nintendo were to announce Star Fox SNES for the VC to get people pumped up for Star Fox Zero!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! That means King K. Rool won't be one of the new playable characters!!! You broke my heart Nintendo...
@arnoldlayne83 Sure! Both deserve some of the blame. Slightly mad for being outright liars, and Nintendo executives for not making due on their promise to get the third party support Nintendo so desperately needs!
@Genesaur I get what you're saying, and I agree it would be nice if Nintendo would make a third-party friendly console so that we could get all the games PS4/XBOX owners get.
However, every person that buys a Nintendo console ever since the N64 days knows that third party support is not Nintendo's strong suite, so to expect third party games on Nintendo consoles is naive at best...
It seems to me that they just slapped the Metroid Prime banner on the game so that it would sell better. More like an after thought than anything else...
@maceng Perhaps the KREMLINS are coming back!!! After all, everything in the Donkey Kong Country games started with a K.... Kritters, KAOS, Northern Kremisphere, etc...
@aaronsullivan Let's hope so! There are sooooo many games we need here in NA that haven't been made available yet (I'm looking at you Golden Sun 2).
Yeah, that's what I thought too! Maybe Nintendo is trying to spread out the VC releases so that people will buy certain games, or favor indie titles certain weeks. However, looking at past VC release schedules there seems to be no pattern/logic in the games released!
I played a lot of "Street Fighter Alpha 3" on the PS1. I had totally forgotten it had come out on the GBA as well! Was it as good as the PS1 version? If yes, I would definitely purchase it on the Virtual Console!
@XCWarrior Smart move on Nintendo's part! It wouldn't look good for them to disavow the game in the Americas. There's another rumor that XSeed might be involved with the publishing duties. We shall see...
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Re: Editorial: Paper Mario is 15 Years Old Today, and Provides a Reminder of Nintendo's Wonderful Whimsy
I only played (and finished) Thousand Year Door and absolutely loved. I was so addicted to that game!
Re: Mighty No. 9 Producer Shares Regret Over Delay, and Clarifies the Reasoning Behind RED Ash Campaign
They bit off more than they could chew.
Creating a new franchise and making a multi-platform game out of it is already difficult, but actually wanting to create a whole universe of cartoons, live action movie and toys is just overly ambitious and gives off a "greedy" vibe to the whole project.
Re: Talking Point: Fatal Frame's Trial Version and Limited Edition Highlight Nintendo's Shifting Approach to Retail
I would prefer to buy digital if only the Wii U had more than a measly 32GB of memory!
Because of that, I buy physical copies of Wii U games and leave my memory available for Virtual Console downloads and save files...
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th August (North America)
@andyg1971
Why not???
I've heard that emulating the Super FX chip might be an issue, but it's not impossible. And Nintendo owns all of the publishing rights to Star Fox SNES!
It would be so cool if they put it on the VC to get people pumped for Star Fox Zero!
Re: Disney Infinity Sales Struggling To Maintain Momentum
@jakysnakydx
Exactly!
One single series line for all Nintendo characters would have been the best option. It would rule out repeat characters and they would all look good beside one another.
Just think if Nintendo chooses to release a Legend of Zelda line for Zelda Wii U. People will have to repurchase Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, etc...... or if they buy characters they don't have, they won't match with the Smash Bros version of Link, Zelda........
Re: Disney Infinity Sales Struggling To Maintain Momentum
I think Nintendo should have released their amiibo in a different fashion. They should have done specific collections for each gaming series (like they did with the Super Mario line and what they are apparently going to do with the Animal Crossing line).
The Smash Brothers line basically included every single main character in every Nintendo series, and now if Nintendo decides to launch more game specific figures, it will force people to repurchase certain characters (which some may be unwilling to do...).
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th August (North America)
Finally!!! Golden Sun Part 2 for me this week!
I'm still waiting for:
Re: Gallery: Check Out Nintendo's Gamescom Booth
@CTMike
I was wondering the same thing! en_mouth:
Re: Mighty No. 9 Delayed Until Early 2016
@WaveBoy
That screenshot has left me even more depressed...
Re: Mighty No. 9 Delayed Until Early 2016
So disappointing...
I have lost all interest in this game.
Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection Blasting Onto the 3DS in Early 2016
@Royalblues
That was the best Mega Man compilation in my opinion!
That and the Megaman X collection too...
Re: Super Mario Happy Meal Toys Hit The UK On 12th August
This actually makes me want to eat at McDonalds (haven't stepped into a McDonalds in years!).
Re: Nintendo Confirms September amiibo Release Details for North America
@SheldonRandoms
I am definitely getting the Falco amiibo when it comes out!
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Dated, Project Zero: Maiden of Black Water to Have Free and Limited Edition Versions
Better to get a limited release than no release at all!
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X Wii U Bundle and Special Edition Confirmed for Europe, Wii Original on the eShop Now
Hope the special edition comes to North America!
Re: Rare Co-Founder Has No Idea Why Nintendo Didn't Buy The Studio Outright
@Rascal0302
First of all, why would you assume that I don't own other gaming systems? Nothing I wrote in my original post had anything to do with bashing one console maker over another; my critique was of Rare's output ever since they were bought out by Microsoft. Don't assume people are "fanboys" without any evidence.
Second, how do you know I have "no firsthand knowledge" of the Rare games published after the Nintendo days. Again, you're assuming things...
Third, you admit that out of the past 10+ years, you consider only 3 of the games Rare published to be "incredible". The Viva Pinata games are alright, but I can surely state that most gamers would not consider Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts to be a worthy sequel (or even a good game for that matter). JonTron has a hilarious video on the matter here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l69BP1uhlMs . And Kameo was a holdover from the Gamecube days when much of the original Rare staff were still onboard. That all being said, Microsoft bought Rare in 2002 for US$375 million dollars. Now just ask yourself a question, from a business standpoint, do you really think that games like Viva Pinata, Nuts & Bolts and Kameo were worth that price tag???
Also, fun trivia: Microsoft thought they were getting the Donkey Kong franchise when they made the purchase
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/microsoft_execs_thought_they_owned_donkey_kong_after_acquiring_rare
Re: Rare Co-Founder Has No Idea Why Nintendo Didn't Buy The Studio Outright
A lot of Rare employees were already leaving the company right before Microsoft purchased it. Given Rare's track record on Microsoft consoles, I think it's fair to say that Nintendo dodged a bullet in not buying up Rareware...
Re: Review: Mario Tennis (Wii U eShop / N64)
Played a lot of Mario Tennis 64 back in the day.
Now I'm waiting to get Mario Tennis Wii U!
Re: Nintendo Is Licensing Hudson Soft IP From Konami
Bomberman in Super Smash Bros!!!!!!!
Make it happen Nintendo!!!!!!!
Re: Scathing Nikkei Report Hints At Shameful Treatment Of Staff By Dictatorial Konami Management
This is even worse than we all thought...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynl4sIFazmM
Re: Movie Review: Pixels Proves Once Again That Video Games And Film Do Not Make Good Bedfellows
90% of Hollywood movies today aren't worth the time and money. Rather watch old movies instead.
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th August (Europe)
@OneBagTravel
When I read "Star Fox" on the title, I immediately thought it was the SNES version and was so happy!!!
I am now sad...
Re: Nintendo Download: 30th July (North America)
@earthboundlink
Yes! My mistake lol
It would be so nice if Nintendo were to announce Star Fox SNES for the VC to get people pumped up for Star Fox Zero!
Re: Nintendo Download: 30th July (North America)
Still waiting for:
Re: Super Smash Bros. Is Getting A Massive Update On July 31st
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
That means King K. Rool won't be one of the new playable characters!!!
You broke my heart Nintendo...
Re: Limitations on Console Manufacturing and Sales Lifted in China
I think Nintendo should skip the Wii U and just debut there with the NX.
Re: Weirdness: Super Mario Bros. 3 is Rather Creepy With "The Plumber's Dream" Theory
What a waste of time...
I want my 5 minutes back!!!
Re: Nintendo Download: 23rd July (North America)
Nothing for me this week... Still waiting on
Re: Nintendo Announces Super Mario Maker Wii U Hardware Bundle
I'll be buying the amiibo bundle (if it does in fact come to NA).
Re: Genyo Takeda The Likely Choice For Nintendo President, Analysts Claim
Takeda is a good choice.
Miyamoto should stay on the creative side of things.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
@arnoldlayne83
Sure! Both deserve some of the blame. Slightly mad for being outright liars, and Nintendo executives for not making due on their promise to get the third party support Nintendo so desperately needs!
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
@Genesaur
I get what you're saying, and I agree it would be nice if Nintendo would make a third-party friendly console so that we could get all the games PS4/XBOX owners get.
However, every person that buys a Nintendo console ever since the N64 days knows that third party support is not Nintendo's strong suite, so to expect third party games on Nintendo consoles is naive at best...
Re: Don't Worry, Samus Will Be In Metroid Prime: Federation Force
It seems to me that they just slapped the Metroid Prime banner on the game so that it would sell better. More like an after thought than anything else...
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
We don't buy Nintendo consoles for these kind of games. We buy them for the Nintendo exclusives!
Re: Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking" Culture At Microsoft-Owned Rare
@maceng
Perhaps the KREMLINS are coming back!!!
After all, everything in the Donkey Kong Country games started with a K.... Kritters, KAOS, Northern Kremisphere, etc...
Re: Nintendo Download: 23rd July (Europe)
@aaronsullivan
Let's hope so! There are sooooo many games we need here in NA that haven't been made available yet (I'm looking at you Golden Sun 2).
Yeah, that's what I thought too! Maybe Nintendo is trying to spread out the VC releases so that people will buy certain games, or favor indie titles certain weeks. However, looking at past VC release schedules there seems to be no pattern/logic in the games released!
Re: Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking" Culture At Microsoft-Owned Rare
@TheRealThanos
Great comment. I agree.
Re: Nintendo Download: 23rd July (Europe)
I hope the NA VC is better this week than it was last...
Re: Negative Reception For Devil's Third Is Due To Poor Player Skill, Claims Tomonobu Itagaki
Don't take it personally Nintendo Life...
Re: Tomonobu Itagaki Explains Why the Pro Controller Trumps the GamePad in Devil's Third
When the game developer starts blaming the controls for the poor gaming experience, you know the game is in trouble...
Re: Video: This Fan-Made Yooka-Laylee Animation is Pretty Neat
Great little cartoon! I'm sure the guys over at Playtonic will be pleased.
Re: Review: Super Street Fighter II: Turbo Revival (Wii U eShop / GBA)
I played a lot of "Street Fighter Alpha 3" on the PS1. I had totally forgotten it had come out on the GBA as well!
Was it as good as the PS1 version?
If yes, I would definitely purchase it on the Virtual Console!
Re: N-ZAP89 and Octobrush Weapons are Next Up in Splatoon Update
How many free updates are there left?
I want to buy this game when everything becomes available...
Re: Nintendo Download: 16th July (North America)
One of the worst VC weeks EVER!!! >
Re: Review: Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising (Wii U eShop / GBA)
We still need this game and so many others on the NA virtual console!
Re: Multiple Sources Point to Nintendo of America U-Turn on Publishing Devil's Third
Nintendo should just dump the publishing duties for this turd to third parties in every region and forget this game ever happened.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
Too bad.. I was really looking forward to a "Devil's Fourth"
Re: Review: Star Fox Command (Wii U eShop / DS)
I'm a HUGE StarFox fan but I just didn't like this game...
Re: Tributes and an Outpouring of Respect Are Shared in Honour of Satoru Iwata
@ekreig
Exactly! So nice to see everyone put their "console guns" down and share a deeply sad moment together.
Re: Devil's Third Will Be Released In North America, Just Not By Nintendo
@XCWarrior
Smart move on Nintendo's part! It wouldn't look good for them to disavow the game in the Americas.
There's another rumor that XSeed might be involved with the publishing duties. We shall see...