@KayFiOS People only “love to hate” Skyward Sword when they’re taking a break from portbegging for it. And the Breath of the Wild DLC didn’t come with a collectible figurine. Either way, meaningful DLC locked behind rebuying the game for 80$ is far worse than anything they’ve done with amiibo.
Breath of the Wild has QoL features (most notably, a fast travel option), so it's not exactly new. I'm not voting as I already have a perfectly good copy of Skyward Sword so have no need to double dip, so the decision doesn't affect me.
Weird how much overlap there is between people that say climate change will kill everyone unless we all switch to electric cars within 12 years and people that hate Elon Musk.
@NGNYS Nintendo released more games per year during the Wii U-3DS era than the Switch era, even before the pandemic. And that includes the many rehashed games, which are rampant on the Switch. I think people that constantly suck up to Nintendo are more likely to be paid trolls than people that want their money’s worth when they buy a new console.
I think there's a niche market, and certainly demand. The cities I've lived in have all had local businesses that offer game rental (as well as games for sale), and any opportunity to support small business rather than the corrupt big tech oligarchs should be taken up. Going to the video store to browse and pick out a game or movie on a Friday or Saturday night is an essential part of the experience, and scrolling through a menu on the screen just doesn't compare. Besides the lack of selection offered by NSO and services like it.
If it was cancelled then, there's no way the woke virtue-signallers would let it be released in 2021. Also, localizing the game would defeat the purpose of the internet meme.
It sounds like an interesting one for sure. The idea of playing a game about terminal illness seems like the opposite of why people play games to begin with (for an escape from the harsh realities of everyday life). But there's a market for everything. Will be interesting to see the review.
1. The controller would be too expensive, and the system would have to come with more than one (as the N64 has many great multiplayer games). They would also need to make the control stick more sturdy without compromising the authenticity.
2. The N64 was never nearly as popular as the NES or Super NES (it lost very badly to the PS1), and conventional wisdom says that the library didn’t age as well (though still better than the PS1’s, obviously).
3. Getting the Rare licences would be complicated, and the system wouldn’t be complete without them.
None of these are insurmountable, but taken together they make the N64 mini pretty unlikely.
Generally it's acceptable. If you can beat the final boss by standing at the side of the screen and spamming the stab button, get infinite 1-ups with the Koopa shell trick, or fly over the level with the cape feather that's more an issue of flawed design on the developers' part (though Nintendo has deliberately implemented the Koopa shell trick into most subsequent 2D Mario games). It isn't the players' fault that they discovered a new way to win.
I must disagree. If anything, 50 is too low of a bar. Otherwise you can get wildly skewed results (like 3D World + Bowser’s Fury being the top Mario game because it has only 75 user reviews rather than thousands like the other games in the franchise).
Quite interesting. It really says a lot about how the library has aged when a 5/10 game can still make the top 50.
Also, everyone should purchase a permanent version of Punch Out on some platform (ie not NSO) before the outrage Karens at ResetEra get it cancelled. You know it's coming.
Pokémon required multiple Game Boys, a copy of the game for each player, and a link cable. If they can do it with Pokémon, why not Zelda? The GameCube one is another story, of course.
The GBA Four Swords is great, but pretty boring without friends. The new A Link to the Past dungeon is fun, but locked behind beating Four Swords and A Link to the Past (not sure if there’s a hack that lets you get in without Four Swords).
Four Swords Adventures is still fun with only one player, though obviously better with at least 2 (never done it with four). It would be a great candidate to be put on Wii U (probably the only console where it would work) with online multiplayer.
@nimnio It's not an opinion, it's simple facts and data. Every first home console Zelda sold better than Wind Waker, the experts (including Aonuma and Miyamoto themselves - the people with the most on the line) agree that it didn't do what it needed to, and the Gamecube era very nearly led to the end of the series. That was why they decided to completely change gears for the next game rather than make Wind Waker 2.
Also, while the game itself was certainly good, the fact that it sold very badly and didn't do what a system seller was supposed to do (move consoles) proves that the haters were vindicated in a big way.
@westman98 The new features being severely limited (you can't play other people's levels or upload your own) if you don't subscribe. You're still paying more for a service that isn't any better.
@Dizzymario And it's in the bottom two or three 2D Mario games.
@westman98 They're not free updates if they're based on a monthly subscription, one that wasn't necessary for Mario Maker 1. It makes sense that they should improve the service (which they haven't) if they're going to raise the price (which they did).
Sort of a "Paradox of the Heap" scenario. I think Zelda 2 is obviously an RPG (or an RPG-Metroidvania hybrid, more precisely). Otherwise it's a question of how many standard RPG features can be removed before a game becomes not an RPG anymore (or how many need to be added before a non-RPG becomes an RPG). I think Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga is an RPG (even though it's more about being good than about being smart or level-grinding). What about Secret of Mana, which seems more Zelda-like than most RPGs but more RPG-like than most Zelda games? Is Zelda also a 3D platformer, since it can involve jumping and Ocarina of Time was originally meant as a sequel to Mario 64? Is it a collectathon, as all Zeldas contain many collectibles (heart pieces, Korok seeds, spirit orbs, gold Skulltullas, Poes, gold bugs, sword moves, photographs and figurines, and more)?
It sold very badly so it sort of makes sense that they'd discontinue support. Still, wasn't the whole idea of paid online that they'd continue providing additional content? It seems Mario Maker 1 (free online + bookmark site + gamepad) was superior to Mario Maker 2.
@patbacknitro18 That's not a good sign, but they said before the direct that they'd be focussing on the first half of the year and we don't yet have a holiday title named. And a game we actually know about is always a better bet than one we don't. With E3 coming up, it's still too early to count it out.
"The kingdoms of Holodrum and Labrynna are every bit as unique and lovingly realised as Hyrule and Koholint"
But are either of them kingdoms, seeing as they're not ruled by a king or queen as far as we know? Labrynna had a queen 420 years ago, but not today I don't think.
An excellent piece, and finally some balance to all the portbegging articles we get here.
@idrawrobots I get your point but I think the idea is that we don't want Nintendo to just rehash all of the 2000s games, not that it was a bad era for gaming.
It's a good thing. Ideally the ESRB would do this too, but they're owned by the industry. Companies do take this sort of thing seriously (changing features of their games to ensure a lower ESRB rating and generally being reluctant to publish 18+ games at all).
@foobarbaz The Switch has been around for 4 years, not 5, they claimed that it would last longer than previous Nintendo consoles (last year they said it was about halfway through its life cycle), and it has the weakest first-party lineup of any Nintendo generation in recent history. Yes, they should make sure people who bought the console get their money’s worth by releasing more Switch games rather than a completely unnecessary upgrade (video game graphics are about as good as they’re ever going to be, with the improvement between generations getting smaller every time but with production budgets increasing exponentially). The phone analogy doesn’t work because not everyone does that, phones tend to be heavily subsidized by one’s provider (most aren’t paying $1000 out of pocket), and nobody is buying a new gaming PC every year (a more relevant analogy).
A listicle of listicles? Quite the concept, I must say. Unfortunately I made the mistake of clicking and reading through all of the links. But this puts too much weight on the so-called experts' opinions; I would be interested in seeing how normal people would make the list. Time for another user score-based ranking I think.
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Re: Talking Point: amiibo Have Always Been Physical DLC, Skyward Sword HD Is No Different
@KayFiOS People only “love to hate” Skyward Sword when they’re taking a break from portbegging for it. And the Breath of the Wild DLC didn’t come with a collectible figurine. Either way, meaningful DLC locked behind rebuying the game for 80$ is far worse than anything they’ve done with amiibo.
Re: Talking Point: amiibo Have Always Been Physical DLC, Skyward Sword HD Is No Different
Breath of the Wild has QoL features (most notably, a fast travel option), so it's not exactly new. I'm not voting as I already have a perfectly good copy of Skyward Sword so have no need to double dip, so the decision doesn't affect me.
Re: "Nintendo Switch Has Games" - And Now It Has An Expensive Calculator, Too
Ooh, it has secant and cosecant. Fancy!
Re: Random: Elon Musk Appears On Saturday Night Live As Wario
While it mightn’t be the funniest show anymore, looks like SNL’s ratings spiked this week. Ultimately that’s what counts. Get woke, go broke.
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/elon-musk-snl-host-tv-ratings-1234969518/
Re: Random: Elon Musk Appears On Saturday Night Live As Wario
Weird how much overlap there is between people that say climate change will kill everyone unless we all switch to electric cars within 12 years and people that hate Elon Musk.
Re: Nintendo's Upcoming Release Schedule For 2021 Looks Positive, With Room For More
@NGNYS Nintendo released more games per year during the Wii U-3DS era than the Switch era, even before the pandemic. And that includes the many rehashed games, which are rampant on the Switch. I think people that constantly suck up to Nintendo are more likely to be paid trolls than people that want their money’s worth when they buy a new console.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/07/talking_point_is_nintendo_making_as_many_games_as_it_used_to
Re: Soapbox: Is It Time For Game Rental Stores To Return?
@Zidentia Isn't Sears long gone?
Re: Soapbox: Is It Time For Game Rental Stores To Return?
I think there's a niche market, and certainly demand. The cities I've lived in have all had local businesses that offer game rental (as well as games for sale), and any opportunity to support small business rather than the corrupt big tech oligarchs should be taken up. Going to the video store to browse and pick out a game or movie on a Friday or Saturday night is an essential part of the experience, and scrolling through a menu on the screen just doesn't compare. Besides the lack of selection offered by NSO and services like it.
Re: Xbox Thought Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2, Bayonetta 3, And Metroid Prime 4 Would Come Out In 2020
When there's smoke, there's fire?
rereads the headline
Hahahahahaha, nevermind. Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3? Give me a break.
Re: A Record 57 LEGO Ideas Sets Are Being Reviewed, And Yes, That Includes Zelda LEGO
Maybe they can make Lego Zelda into a video game if it works out.
Re: Random: Terry Crews Wants Nintendo To Localise Mother 3
If it was cancelled then, there's no way the woke virtue-signallers would let it be released in 2021. Also, localizing the game would defeat the purpose of the internet meme.
Re: Feature: The Origins Of BAFTA-Nominated 'Before I Forget' And Its Approach To Dementia
It sounds like an interesting one for sure. The idea of playing a game about terminal illness seems like the opposite of why people play games to begin with (for an escape from the harsh realities of everyday life). But there's a market for everything. Will be interesting to see the review.
Re: Talking Point: Why Did Nintendo Give Up On Its 'Classic Edition' Concept So Soon?
Problems with N64 Classic Edition:
1. The controller would be too expensive, and the system would have to come with more than one (as the N64 has many great multiplayer games). They would also need to make the control stick more sturdy without compromising the authenticity.
2. The N64 was never nearly as popular as the NES or Super NES (it lost very badly to the PS1), and conventional wisdom says that the library didn’t age as well (though still better than the PS1’s, obviously).
3. Getting the Rare licences would be complicated, and the system wouldn’t be complete without them.
None of these are insurmountable, but taken together they make the N64 mini pretty unlikely.
Re: Random: This Clever Fan Remake Blends The Doki Doki Super Mario Bros. 2 With The Original
So basically the SMB2 mushroom from Mario Maker 2.
Re: Talking Point: Is "Cheesing" A Legitimate Strategy?
Generally it's acceptable. If you can beat the final boss by standing at the side of the screen and spamming the stab button, get infinite 1-ups with the Koopa shell trick, or fly over the level with the cape feather that's more an issue of flawed design on the developers' part (though Nintendo has deliberately implemented the Koopa shell trick into most subsequent 2D Mario games). It isn't the players' fault that they discovered a new way to win.
Re: Random: The Lead Singer of The Mountain Goats Did An Improv Zelda: BOTW Soundtrack For His Kid
Where's that Goat from BotW guy? He should be all over this article lol.
Re: Nintendo Of America Releases Two Commercials For New Pokémon Snap
Is that really what they're going to call it? Wow...
Re: Random: There's A Korok Hidden In This Tiny Recreation Of Link's House From Zelda: BOTW
What is this, a house for ants?!??!?!?
Re: Feature: Zelda: Spirit Tracks Finally Gave The Princess A Crucial Role To Play
Probably Sheldon Cooper’s favourite Zelda. Because trains.
Re: Feature: Best NES Games
I must disagree. If anything, 50 is too low of a bar. Otherwise you can get wildly skewed results (like 3D World + Bowser’s Fury being the top Mario game because it has only 75 user reviews rather than thousands like the other games in the franchise).
Re: Feature: Best NES Games
Quite interesting. It really says a lot about how the library has aged when a 5/10 game can still make the top 50.
Also, everyone should purchase a permanent version of Punch Out on some platform (ie not NSO) before the outrage Karens at ResetEra get it cancelled. You know it's coming.
Re: Random: One Of America's Biggest News Outlets Takes The 'Mario’s Going To Die' Meme Way Too Seriously
Sounds like a big story. Better get Fredo on it.
Re: Feature: Zelda: Four Swords Was Probably Great, But Finding Pals To Play With? Talk About A Master Quest
Pokémon required multiple Game Boys, a copy of the game for each player, and a link cable. If they can do it with Pokémon, why not Zelda? The GameCube one is another story, of course.
Re: Feature: Zelda: Four Swords Was Probably Great, But Finding Pals To Play With? Talk About A Master Quest
The GBA Four Swords is great, but pretty boring without friends. The new A Link to the Past dungeon is fun, but locked behind beating Four Swords and A Link to the Past (not sure if there’s a hack that lets you get in without Four Swords).
Four Swords Adventures is still fun with only one player, though obviously better with at least 2 (never done it with four). It would be a great candidate to be put on Wii U (probably the only console where it would work) with online multiplayer.
Re: Feature: Zelda: The Wind Waker Proved We Don't Always Know What We Want
@nimnio It's not an opinion, it's simple facts and data. Every first home console Zelda sold better than Wind Waker, the experts (including Aonuma and Miyamoto themselves - the people with the most on the line) agree that it didn't do what it needed to, and the Gamecube era very nearly led to the end of the series. That was why they decided to completely change gears for the next game rather than make Wind Waker 2.
https://www.gamedesigngazette.com/2018/05/that-time-legend-of-zelda-franchise.html
Re: Feature: Zelda: The Wind Waker Proved We Don't Always Know What We Want
@gaga64 It is considered part of the main series by Nintendo.
Re: Feature: Zelda: The Wind Waker Proved We Don't Always Know What We Want
Also, while the game itself was certainly good, the fact that it sold very badly and didn't do what a system seller was supposed to do (move consoles) proves that the haters were vindicated in a big way.
Re: Feature: Zelda: The Wind Waker Proved We Don't Always Know What We Want
Why'd you skip Four Swords?
Re: Super Mario Maker 2's Final Ninji Speedrun Course Could Spell The End For New Content
@Dizzymario The other 2D Mario game being a Wii U port, of course. But you're correct, it did indeed outsell Mario Tennis.
Re: Super Mario Maker 2's Final Ninji Speedrun Course Could Spell The End For New Content
@westman98 The new features being severely limited (you can't play other people's levels or upload your own) if you don't subscribe. You're still paying more for a service that isn't any better.
Re: Super Mario Maker 2's Final Ninji Speedrun Course Could Spell The End For New Content
@Dizzymario And it's in the bottom two or three 2D Mario games.
@westman98 They're not free updates if they're based on a monthly subscription, one that wasn't necessary for Mario Maker 1. It makes sense that they should improve the service (which they haven't) if they're going to raise the price (which they did).
Re: Talking Point: Is Zelda An RPG, Or Not?
Sort of a "Paradox of the Heap" scenario. I think Zelda 2 is obviously an RPG (or an RPG-Metroidvania hybrid, more precisely). Otherwise it's a question of how many standard RPG features can be removed before a game becomes not an RPG anymore (or how many need to be added before a non-RPG becomes an RPG). I think Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga is an RPG (even though it's more about being good than about being smart or level-grinding). What about Secret of Mana, which seems more Zelda-like than most RPGs but more RPG-like than most Zelda games? Is Zelda also a 3D platformer, since it can involve jumping and Ocarina of Time was originally meant as a sequel to Mario 64? Is it a collectathon, as all Zeldas contain many collectibles (heart pieces, Korok seeds, spirit orbs, gold Skulltullas, Poes, gold bugs, sword moves, photographs and figurines, and more)?
Re: Super Mario Maker 2's Final Ninji Speedrun Course Could Spell The End For New Content
It sold very badly so it sort of makes sense that they'd discontinue support. Still, wasn't the whole idea of paid online that they'd continue providing additional content? It seems Mario Maker 1 (free online + bookmark site + gamepad) was superior to Mario Maker 2.
Re: Close To 190 Employees Have Reportedly Been Laid Off By Activision Blizzard, Due To Impact Of The Pandemic
@Yanina No, that was for a bonus. I imagine that the gift card thing played out something like this.
https://youtu.be/NY_zxLubpmI?t=66
Re: Random: You Can Vote For The "Best Off-Model Mario" On Twitter Right Now
Wtf is your problem, Kate?!?!?!
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Gearing Up For Record Switch Sales This Year
@Giancarlothomaz Their last Pokémon remake came out a month before Smash Ultimate. Both still sold very well.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Gearing Up For Record Switch Sales This Year
@patbacknitro18 That's not a good sign, but they said before the direct that they'd be focussing on the first half of the year and we don't yet have a holiday title named. And a game we actually know about is always a better bet than one we don't. With E3 coming up, it's still too early to count it out.
Re: Feature: The Brilliance Of Zelda: Oracle Of Ages & Seasons Forced Nintendo To Up Its Game
"The kingdoms of Holodrum and Labrynna are every bit as unique and lovingly realised as Hyrule and Koholint"
But are either of them kingdoms, seeing as they're not ruled by a king or queen as far as we know? Labrynna had a queen 420 years ago, but not today I don't think.
Re: Soapbox: I'm Tired Of Ports And Remakes - Where Are All Nintendo's New Ideas?
An excellent piece, and finally some balance to all the portbegging articles we get here.
@idrawrobots I get your point but I think the idea is that we don't want Nintendo to just rehash all of the 2000s games, not that it was a bad era for gaming.
Re: Random: This Animal Crossing Screenshot "Probably" Has Nothing To Do With The Rumoured 4K Switch
Can you limit pro-begging articles to no more than one every two weeks or something? Surely there has to be some level of editorial standards.
Re: Germany Is Considering An 18+ Rating On Video Games With Loot Boxes
It's a good thing. Ideally the ESRB would do this too, but they're owned by the industry. Companies do take this sort of thing seriously (changing features of their games to ensure a lower ESRB rating and generally being reluctant to publish 18+ games at all).
Re: Video: WarioWare Could Have So Much Potential On Switch
It would be a great idea (also, Wario Land), but Nintendo isn't releasing many first-party games at all these days (and many of them are ports).
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Switch Pro "Will Have Exclusives", Says Insider
@foobarbaz The Switch has been around for 4 years, not 5, they claimed that it would last longer than previous Nintendo consoles (last year they said it was about halfway through its life cycle), and it has the weakest first-party lineup of any Nintendo generation in recent history. Yes, they should make sure people who bought the console get their money’s worth by releasing more Switch games rather than a completely unnecessary upgrade (video game graphics are about as good as they’re ever going to be, with the improvement between generations getting smaller every time but with production budgets increasing exponentially). The phone analogy doesn’t work because not everyone does that, phones tend to be heavily subsidized by one’s provider (most aren’t paying $1000 out of pocket), and nobody is buying a new gaming PC every year (a more relevant analogy).
Re: Video: Ten 3DS Exclusives That Could Be Better On Nintendo Switch
The sad thing is that people actually pay money for these port-begging articles.
Re: Feature: Forget Saving Hyrule, Zelda: Ocarina of Time Is All About Fishing For Me
Not sure I ever even caught anything. Didn't really get the hang of it.
Re: Feature: We Worked Out The Best Zelda Game Once And For All, Using Maths
A listicle of listicles? Quite the concept, I must say. Unfortunately I made the mistake of clicking and reading through all of the links. But this puts too much weight on the so-called experts' opinions; I would be interested in seeing how normal people would make the list. Time for another user score-based ranking I think.
Re: Expect To Hear More About Zelda's 35th Anniversary This Summer, Says Industry Insider
How much of this is actual insider information versus reasonable speculation?
Re: Rumour: 'Switch Pro' Console Still Aiming For 2021 Launch, According To Known Insider
Leaving this here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/82ia7f/nate_drake_reliable_insider_from_resetera_says/
Re: Rumour: 'Switch Pro' Console Still Aiming For 2021 Launch, According To Known Insider
Another pro-begging article. I'm sure they really mean it this time though.
Re: Nintendo Ignored Zelda's 35th Anniversary This Weekend, But Fans Are Celebrating In Style
@JohnnyC A good point. For a real milestone anniversary (Mario's 30th in 2015), they had a brand new game.