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Capcom Comments On Monster Hunter 4 Vita Rumours

Posted by Andy Green

Best not to believe everything you read

Not so long ago we reported on a rumour that was spreading like wildfire across the internet. According to Japanese magazine GameLab, the upcoming 3DS title Monster Hunter 4 hasn't been delayed for further quality enhancements - as Capcom has officially stated - it is in fact simultaneously being developed for the PlayStation Vita with a view to releasing both versions together.

Capcom's Senior Vice President Christian Svensson has since responded to the rumour on the Capcom Unity forums:

I would not believe everything you read on the internet. It will set you up for disappointment or misdirected frustration.

The PS Vita is struggling to gain traction in Japan, while the 3DS consistently outsells all other systems combined, with the handheld recently surpassing 10 million units sold in Nintendo's homeland. Though it's not out of the question that Monster Hunter 4 will one day end up on the PS Vita it's unlikely that it will be released on the very same day as the 3DS. Further rumours are floating around that the game can appear on Sony's handheld after three years of 3DS exclusivity - however Svensson's post seems to cast doubt on the game ever making it onto the ailing system.

What are your thoughts on this one? Is it conceivable that any of this is true? Fire-off in the comments below.

[via capcom-unity.com, gonintendo.com, neogaf.com]

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edhe

#1

edhe said:

Translation: "Rumbled!"

Well there you have it. Capcom have officially denied a PSVita version of Monster Hunter 4 is in development. Expect it to turn up on the Vita, Spring 2014.

KAHN

#4

KAHN said:

troll Capcom. they've been trolling like this long before MML3.

GuardianKing

#6

GuardianKing said:

So, should we believe your tweet about cancelling Megaman Legends 3 due to lack of fan support?

(apply cold water on burn)

CrimsonFire

#9

CrimsonFire said:

I was thinking of buying a Vita for TearAway and if this came out more vitas would be sold and in turn,more games made for Vita.

Oh well, might get this for 3ds

snax007

#10

snax007 said:

That was a non-denial denial. He didnt rule out the Vita version, just warned people not to trust rumors.

bboy2970

#11

bboy2970 said:

Hopefully Capcom is being truthful. Without Monster Hunter, Vita is almost surely doomed to fail. If PSP hadn't been saved by the Monster Hunter series, I'm sure it would have met a similar end. Once this game hits 3DS, there will be no hope for the Vita in Japan or really, the rest of the world for that matter.

sinalefa

#12

sinalefa said:

No, the Vita will not get MH4. It will get MH4 Ultimate, or however they want to call it. :p

The game makes more sense in Vita anyway, with its native twin sticks.

TrueWiiMaster

#13

TrueWiiMaster said:

"The PS Vita is struggling to gain traction in Japan"
Isn't that sugar coating it a little? I mean, it's struggling to get traction anywhere. It hasn't even hit 1.5 million in any one region yet.

sonicriders

#14

sonicriders said:

Don't care for Vita anyway. 3DS would seem the better match, being that it is playable with the Wii U version of the game.

9th_Sage

#15

9th_Sage said:

Honestly folks, even if you WANT a Vita version, why wouldn't they have already announced something like that if it was going to come out?

TrueWiiMaster

#16

TrueWiiMaster said:

@sinalefa
"The game makes more sense in Vita anyway, with its native twin sticks."
The best selling Monster Hunter games were on the PSP, which had only one stick.

Squiggle55

#18

Squiggle55 said:

Seriously I'm very curious about the lengths Nintendo must have gone to get Capcom to turn their backs on Sony and what would clearly be the superior system for this particular game.

SamSan37

#19

SamSan37 said:

At least vita owners have Soul Sacrifice to look Forward to. It's very similar to Monster Hunter but with a darker tone.

MAB

#23

MAB said:

All I can say is (Nelson voice) HA! HA!

Actually it's funny how he says 'I would not believe everything you read on the internet. It will set you up for disappointment or misdirected frustration' PS720 ;) ;)

SubZer023

#26

SubZer023 said:

Wow! i can't Stop Smiling i knew this Couldn't Be true :) 3ds all the way not let that big Smug Mark Die!XD

pixelman

#28

pixelman said:

I don't have any particular desire to see this on Vita, but that comment is far from a "denial."

Blaze

#29

Blaze said:

@TrueWiiMaster Maybe in terms of sales yes, but gameplay-wise Monster Hunter is far more suited to twin- analogue control; putting your hand into some awkward claw shape position makes the gameplay far more frustrating.

Blaze

#30

Blaze said:

@Magnet_Man018 because the 3DS is far outselling the Vita perhaps? MH would be far more suited to the Vita, but game companies go where the money is, (especially Capcom) and in this case more money is gonna come from the system with the largest user base, aka the 3DS.

Einherjar

#31

Einherjar said:

"I would not believe everything you read on the internet. It will set you up for disappointment or misdirected frustration."
Yeah, thanks for the advise capcom, i learned that the hard way when it comes to megaman games. And before you ask: No, im still not over MML3 and MMU -.-

But in retrospect...its kinda funny and ironic, They canceld MML3 because the 3DS didnt sell well enough and now its a possible MH4 on the vita thats not seeing the light of day because the 3DS outsells it

banacheck

#33

banacheck said:

I would not believe everything you read on the internet.

Does this include your statement ?

TheXboxHero

#34

TheXboxHero said:

I find this a good thing. Vita is starting to flop due to lack of games and support, so it's gonna be a boost for the 3DS. :)

SheldonRandoms

#35

SheldonRandoms said:

Even if it was on the Vita, the 3DS version will probably outsell the Vita version, but still, this could help the Vita..........be more loved, but still, since it's also on 3DS, maybe not as much people will even get the Vita version in the first place.

Ichiban

#36

Ichiban said:

This is why fools shouldn't make up rubbish & spread it over the internet, people are willing to believe anything! I never believed this for a second, just some N4G Sony fanatic spreading nonsense.
Just the Wii U rumours a year ago, or the ps4/xbox 3 rumours we're getting now!

ReshiramZekrom

#37

ReshiramZekrom said:

"however Svensson's post seems to cast doubt on the game ever making it onto the ailing system."
Typo.

RaylaxStaff

#41

Raylax said:

Do we need to type out the Vita sales figures vs 3DS every single time we write we write an article involving it? All it seems to serve is to bring lots of daft fanboy chest-puffing into the comments section.

TheLilK98

#42

TheLilK98 said:

I assumed it was fake, so I'm not surprised. Capcom may have just decided not to release it on Vita because of Soul Sacrifice or something. Either way, I don't own a Vita and don't plan on getting one, so I guess this is just a meh for me. Now if Sven decides to spill the beans on localization for MH4, THEN I'd be interested.

Gamesake

#44

Gamesake said:

Poor delusional Vita owners. The truth hurts doesn't it? Although anyone still buying Sony products has probably gotten numb to it by now.

CanisWolfred

#45

CanisWolfred said:

@Raylax They'd do it anyways. Let's be honest here. They don't need provocation to gloat about something that honestly has nothing to do with them.

DerpSandwich

#46

DerpSandwich said:

Sounds to me like a vague statement from a guy who's grumpy because no one can keep a secret. But I hope I'm wrong (in a terrible sort of way).

irken004

#47

irken004 said:

@Gamesake Well I'll just go sit in the corner and play some LittleBIGPlanet, Gravity Rush, PS All Stars, and AC3 Liberation all on my vita weh weh weh :)

Rei7

#48

Rei7 said:

This is not a big problem I have both handhelds and i'll play it on the 3DS first and later on my Vita in 2014 or so when the contract with Nintendo expires for MH. Sad to see that Nintendo fanboys being so desperate at times like this wishing it was not true. You are that scared of the Vita? Common guys, having the game on both handhelds will be great.

PinkSpider

#52

PinkSpider said:

Nothing wrong with being happy about this as we are losing the exclusive Resident Evil Revelations to XBox and PS3. So would be good to still have some capcom exclusives.

SanderEvers

#54

SanderEvers said:

@irken004 Wow, you have the only 4 good games for your Vita :)

I have many more better games for my 3DS ;)
(and I also have the games you have on my Vita, though ;))

Rei7

#58

Rei7 said:

@SanderEvers Many more as in how much? I have around 20 games for Vita right now. Which is physical which doesn't include digital? Wanna compare? Bring it.

Blaze

#59

Blaze said:

@C-Olimar But wouldn't you prefer HD, a brighter, larger screen and dual-analogue to 3D? Maybe I'm in the minority here, but the 3D really doesn't matter to me; I very rarely use it. But anyway, different people have different opinions, but if it was on both the Vita & 3DS, everyone could get what they want out of MH4. :)

turtlelink

#60

turtlelink said:

Who still uses the 3D on their 3DS anyway? That novelty wore off within a week for me. :P

Slapshot

#61

Slapshot said:

I actually remember a time when there wasn't a plague of childish fanboys - I'm starting to miss those days.

AcidFox

#63

AcidFox said:

Remember that time when Resident Evil 4 was a Gamecube exclusive and there was no way it'd come out on any other console?? Good times...

CanisWolfred

#64

CanisWolfred said:

@Slapshot I envy you. I don't even remember those days. :|

Also, we'll all find out how "amazing" 3D would be for Monster Hunter with MHTU, either with the demo in February, or the full game in March.

TheLilK98

#65

TheLilK98 said:

@Blaze First of all, Vita isn't HD. It's qHD, meaning it's 1/4th HD. If I cared about a larger screen I'd get an XL. Brightness? I'll just use my powercase to charge my 3DS on the go, putting it at max brightness. 3D is more impressive than qHD in my opinion, but yes, if it was on Vita everyone could be happy and we could cease the bickering.

TheLilK98

#66

TheLilK98 said:

@Blaze and as for dual analog, a CPP+3DS costs less than a Vita. All that said, I still like the Vita somewhat, I just don't want one. If Nyko would just release the Powergrip Pro than the issue of brightness, dual analog, and battery life would all be solved.

Blaze

#68

Blaze said:

@TheLilK98 I understand what you're saying, but it's quite a lot of effort to go to, especially considering many don't want a CPP due to the mass of extra bulk it adds to the console.

Also, even with brightness at full, the 3DS is no match for the Vita's OLED display; they're pretty much incomparable, not to mention the fact that as of now there is no CPP XL for the 3DS XL, and when it does release the thing will hardly be very portable, and although technically the Vita is not HD, the smaller screen display makes the system very nearly HD, and far more powerful than the 3DS graphically. In essence, you can't have what the Vita can offer on a 3DS even with the mass of accessories available on the system.

Boo_Buster

#69

Boo_Buster said:

@Rei7 20 games for the Vita, that are actual Vita games? I didn't even know that thing had 20 games out yet. I don't have anything against Sony, I own a PS3 and love it... but they should just walk away from the land of handhelds and leave it to the original masters of right-priced fun. I don't want to play Uncharted on the Vita, but that is just me. I'm not much of a fan of LBP. It's a good game but doesn't do it for me. I don't want to play FPS' on a handheld. The memory cards are ridiculously priced. The system itself is over-priced. The list of negatives is extensive. Again, I don't dislike it, it is just what potential buyers are going through. I'm thinking about a PSP for PS1 games though. It seems like many people want the PSP more than the Vita. The numbers would agree.

@Blaze the 3D doesn't really matter.... The awesome games, however, do. Nintendo always knows this. They never blow you away with hardware, but they do with software. That is the way Nintendo has always been. They take the technology of today and make it new again, while other companies like to throw tomorrows tech into their system in a very non innovative way (basically a PC with a game controller). Mostly anything innovative from them is a sort of "copy and paste and improve"... which is creatively weak. It really all comes down to taste, in the end. Some people enjoy Nintendo, some people enjoy Sony, some people enjoy MS or PC. Some people enjoy all of them or none of them, or a mixture of some. I still play NES, SNES, GBC and GBA games. How are they still relevant even though they are graphically inferior to todays games? Because they are works of art. Console technology doesn't matter as much to me, or a plethora of others, as quality, innovative, fun games do.

Rei7

#70

Rei7 said:

@Boo_Buster Are you serious? 65+ games are on the Vita. How in the world are people so blinded this days. So full of lies and so full of hate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Vita_games

PSP didn't do well in their first year. So that doesn't bother me too much. I'm loving my Vita more than my 3DS due to a lot of reason and I had both at the same time. 3DS games are more childish in a lot of ways that is why it doesn't appeal to me that much. But i'm still waiting for MH and Animal Crossing: New Leaf. I don't hate any console or handhelds but the thing that I would like to point out is that Vita has tons of games already. I am by no means in any side of any fanboyism. I own a PS3, DS, 3DS, Vita, PSP and an epic gaming pc rig.

Knux

#71

Knux said:

The amount of immature fanboys on this website disappoint me. It's like the Super Nintendo VS Sega Genesis debate all over again except for less facts and more mud-slinging.

This isn't really a denial, but more of ''it may or may not happen'' kind of comment. And a Vita port may not happen right away if it does happen. I can see Capcom porting Monster Hunter 4 to the Vita easily several years after the 3DS version. They love to port their games after all.

TheLilK98

#72

TheLilK98 said:

@Blaze Yeah, that's why I never got the CPP. Which is why I really wish Nyko would just release the Powergrip pro, which is basically a streamlined CPP that adds battery life. The 3DS screen is bright enough for me, I don't really need a lighthouse in my pocket. Yes, it's true you can't get some things the Vita has on the 3DS, but there are also things you can get on the 3DS you can't get on the Vita. The most obvious is the 3D, which, to me, is more impressive than near HD. The Vita has better graphics, but the 3DS isn't a pushover either when it comes to visuals. You also don't have the dual screen interface on the Vita, and the rear touchpad was stupid to me.

theblackdragonAdmin

#73

theblackdragon said:

@Knux: oh for heaven's sake, I've seen you (and others also complaining of the same in this thread) also loling or poking fun at users who own Nintendo products whenever something goes wrong for them. If everyone would just knock it off and ignore people who say these things (from BOTH sides, thank you), we'd all have a much better time of it. Can't we all just get along? :/

That said, i'm in agreement with everyone else saying this isn't much of a denial. Can't trust much of anything Capcom has to say, really, so who knows what we'll wind up seeing hit the Vita later on or who knows what. For all we know they've got MH5 half done for iPad already /eyeroll

CanisWolfred

#76

CanisWolfred said:

@Gamesake Because clearly your tastes prove you're a universal indicator for good games. :rollseyes:

Neither are mine, but that's my point, no one's is...

Back on track...I still feel that they aren't gonna release a possible Vita version on day 1 with the 3DS version. If they're almost done, why delay for a port when they could get sales now, then get more sales when they release the Vita version? I just think the delay was only to ensure the game was complete, and released on a less busy timeline (summer usually has less AAA releases).

DaveC

#79

DaveC said:

@Blaze

No. I would rather have the 3D. Actually when it comes to brightness I was actually thinking the screen on the Vita is fairly dim. The OLED screen on my Galaxy S3 is MUCH brighter than the Vita. It is like they limited the brightness on the Vita so as to not get the notorious OLED screen burn in. The 3DS screen will outlast the Vita by far. It will still look clean when the screens on the Vita all go yellow after a few years. I have a Vita, a kind of impulse buy, but I never use it. It is not that it isn't good it just seems like a shrunk down console. If I want a console experience I reach for the PS3 or 360 controller instead which plays on a MUCH bigger and brighter HDTV compared to Vita.

AceSpadeS

#80

AceSpadeS said:

@Rei7
Right there in the same boat with you. I am a happy owner of quite a few gaming systems (Including a high end PC, 3DS, and Vita), and like them for different types of games.

Monster Hunter is not a game I want on my 3DS, nor am particularly interested in. For one, the trailer I saw for MH4 on 3DS looks pretty bad in terms of graphics, more like a DS game than something that really takes advantage of the 3DS (Kid Icarus or Resident Evil anyone?) and graphics are pretty important in a game like this. If you want to sell me another Monster Hunter game on the premise of going around and hunting monsters, the monsters need to be interesting to hunt. Muddy looking textures certainly do not help this, and the trailer really failed to make the game look like something worth buying in that regard.

Of course, graphics can be forgiven if the gameplay is good, but I'm not convinced that MH4 will be all that great. I found the various PSP releases difficult to play at times due to the lack of a second stick, and I honestly don't see Capcom making it much better by using the touchscreen. If you remove the touchscreen from play, all you're really left with is the same inputs as the PSP did, hence my concern. Now MH4 has me questioning its controls, and thusly its gameplay, while I'm still in doubt about the graphics.

Putting this on the Vita would offer Capcom the chance to wipe away these concerns for me and to convince me to invest in this title. Regardless of if this is a simultaneous release or not, I think the Vita is the handheld where Monster Hunter belongs for moving the series forward.

As to all of the people who are gleeful that this game isn't coming to the Vita. MH4 on the Vita would not hurt your precious 3DS. The 3DS has achieved more than enough sales and support that one game, or even a slew of games, isn't going to cause it to suddenly die. By celebrating that the Vita is failing to sell, you're celebrating that somebody's hard work is failing, that people are losing their jobs, and that a system that is just as innovative and exciting as the 3DS was when it released is being ignored in favor of mobile games. Somebody who is a real fan of Nintendo wouldn't want Sony to fail because Sony has done a great deal for the gaming industry, and benefiting the gaming industry benefits everybody. It was on a Sony system that open world gaming became successful for consoles; something I'm guessing plenty of you do, or would, enjoy seeing in games on Nintendo consoles. It was on a Sony system that RPGs were able to move into the 3D realm and gain mainstream popularity on consoles; a move that is responsible for games like The Last Story, Xenoblade, and Pandora's Tower being considered worth making and localizing. It's Sony's gaming products that provide competition for Nintendo. competition that promotes innovation. Innovation that brings us new and exciting takes on games. Innovation that drove Nintendo forward with their online marketplace and product offerings. Sony is an integral part of the gaming industry; if they fall that means part of the industry falls with it.

No true gamer wants to see the industry fall.

AceSpadeS

#81

AceSpadeS said:

Oh, and for those who want to play the "better games" card when attacking the Vita, there are plenty of quality experiences on both titles.

3DS has NSMB2; Vita has Rayman Origins and LBP, all excellent platformers. (I wish Ubisoft had done better with the 3DS version of Rayman though...)
Racers? Need for Speed Most Wanted is an amazing open world racer for Vita, just as Mario Kart 3D is an amazing combat racer for 3DS.
The Vita has one of the most incredible JRPG experiences in Persona 4 Golden, while the 3DS has Tales, and the 3DS has SMT: Devil Survivor Overclocked (By the same people who created Persona) and Dragon Quest VII on the way. Notably these are all remakes, but that seems to be the way the handheld RPG market is leaning lately.
Both systems have great fighting games in BlazBlue, Marvel Vs Capcom, Street Fighter, Playstation All Stars...
There are excellent adventuring experiences on both systems, with OOT:3D and Assassin's Creed III: Liberation being two of my favorites.
Both systems have excellent original downloadable offerings as well, and once Nintendo starts making more GB-GBA games available they each have access to many amazing experiences from older systems.

The Vita is not lacking in amazing games, what it is lacking in are games that drive explosive system sales, just as the 3DS was not so long ago. I don't know if it will ever get a game that will sell the system to other people, but I do know that it has games that sold it to me, and I haven't regretted my purchase for a minute.

nungi

#82

nungi said:

love Nintendo.They make you wait too long for games;which i personally hate but this system looks a likle bit better than before.And the rest of the competition

Gamesake

#83

Gamesake said:

@AceSpadeS If you think Sony has done a great deal for the gaming industry, you're not a gamer. You're a pretender. Sony could die tomorrow and it would be no big loss. In fact it could even be a good thing. It would send the industry a message: no more clone games, no more DRM, and no to high prices.

CanisWolfred

#84

CanisWolfred said:

@Gamesake Your trolling is getting worse by the minute. Two of those problems have nothing to do with Sony, and the third one barely fits, but there are far, far worse offenders out there (I'm specifically talking about the clones here. Gameloft would be a far better example to set if it would just stop being so G-ddamn successful).

Inev

#87

Inev said:

Squashing that rumor is all well and good, but whether MH4 is 3DS exclusive or multi-platform means little to me if there's no NA localization. :(

Also, didn't the Vita's 2 joystick argument stop being relevant once the CPP was released?

Araknie

#89

Araknie said:

LOL Sony can't have Monster Hunter, they want it only if it's exclusive to them and Capcom recently said that at this rate no Sony console will see the game.
How a rumor like that could take place with info like that?

WaLzgiStaff

#90

WaLzgi said:

@theblackdragon To be fair, he is right about one thing. You really shouldn't believe everything on the internet. And the disappointment and frustration? Look at what happened with the "All the Bravest" rumor. Yeah...

AceSpadeS

#92

AceSpadeS said:

@Gamesake
No more DRM? Please, do share where Sony was responsible for creating DRM? If you want to rant against DRM in terms of gaming, all three console manufacturers do not currently have stringent DRM policies on their systems. The PC gaming space is where the real DRM issue is at, and if you really want to view DRM as being evil, you should be targeting Steam, a DRM policy people are celebrating, not Sony. I personally don't mind DRM from Steam for most games, because Steam simplifies the process and is less obscene than some other companies, such as Ubisoft.

In regards to the high prices, I won't deny the PS3 had a terrible launch price, but it didn't stay at that price. The consumers spoke with their wallets, Sony listened, and the PS3 has been a very good deal since then. The Vita was no more expensive than the 3DS when it launched, the memory cards can be found for much better prices than the MSRP if you're willing to look, and the system has been put on numerous sales since launch; I've spent roughly $300 on my system total and have a fairly expansive game collection and the memory to hold it. Sony's PS+ program offers quite the variety of free games, both AAA retail launches and indy hits, and puts games on sale regularly. Outside of that, the PSN store is very fairly priced and comparable (oftentimes less expensive) to the eShop.

Nintendo's forays into the online marketplace and networks with the Wii U and 3DS are a clear product of Nintendo realizing their competitors had better online services and, and that they need to improve or be left behind. Just as Sony's forays into many different products have been inspired by Nintendo's software and hardware designs. Both companies are what they are today because they've pushed themselves forward in response to each other and Microsoft, and to ignore the impact that has had on the industry and wish that Sony would simply disappear is a terribly foolish choice.

Now back to playing on my systems from all three parties.

Gamesake

#93

Gamesake said:

@AceSpadeS No one celebrates the Steam service for being DRM, they tolerate Steam for having 75% off sales and the ability to buy AAA titles for less than $10. One of the unwritten rules is to never purchase a game through Steam with third party DRM attached, such a Sony's SecuROM. It's just not worth the harassment. PSN is another place where Sony shines. And it's hard to imagine any gamer who'd be fanboy enough to agree with Sony's used games patent. You're right that Sony isn't responsible for creating all DRM, just some of the worst of it.

AceSpadeS

#94

AceSpadeS said:

@Gamesake
Last time I checked, a patent was not the "creation" of something, bur rather the exploration of an idea. Sony had an idea for that technology and filed for a patent to ensure other companies didn't create something similar, undermining the research Sony had already done. This technology doesn't exist yet, so there is no reason to use it in an argument about the state of DRM today. Of course, SecuROM is not an ideal system, but that system was created because of the severe piracy problem the PC had and has, and you aren't going to find a perfect solution for it. Certainly, it was not an ideal design choice, but it's also up to the publishers of software whether or not to include it. Sony created an option, and developers chose to use it. Because it was a less than optimal design, and because better DRM options have been made for the PC, it has largely faded out. Some companies still choose to use it, however. (See: http://www.reclaimyourgame.com/content.php/16-DRMs#content)

In regards to the PSN being a form of DRM, of course it is. Xbox Live and the eShop are DRM as well, same as iTunes, Origin, or most any other digital distribution model. I don't find Sony's model any more or less restrictive than Nintendo's*, Microsoft's, or Steam's. If you could download and share your digital games freely, it's unlikely anybody would publish a game for that distributor. Gog.com is one of the very few examples of a DRM free digital distribution model that is successful, and even then it's mainly selling older games. For any most any other model though, your games are tied to a specific user ID, as with Sony or Microsoft, or a specific system, as with Nintendo, to prevent games being pirated and stolen.

Now about the Steam service being celebrated, of course it is. Valve is a developer that is hugely celebrated, and often rightly so, for releasing quality games. These games are, of course, tied to Steam, and people certainly are willing to support that service. Millions of people use Steam as their primary way of buying, organizing, updating, and playing games because those services for those games are provided in an organized, well presented package. People don't celebrate the DRM directly, but they celebrate the convenience, quality, and value that having that DRM brings.

The other point you make, about Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 (From your PSN link) being a place whee "Sony shines" is incorrect. The added DRM is a product of Capcom, not Sony. I would suggest reading the article fully before placing blame next time.

*I hope Nintendo moves to tying eShop purchases to an ID soon, to allow people to move from one system to another without need to retain both systems.

slim80

#95

slim80 said:

@Rei7 not scared of vita,but on to sony.the ps3 has been out 6 /7years. 3ds has been out 3 years and has out sold the ps3 thats funny handheld out sold a console.

slim80

#96

slim80 said:

just wanted to say ps3 been out 6 years 3ds been out 3 years and it out sold the ps3 lol wow thats funny all hail nintendo bye bye vita

Gamesake

#97

Gamesake said:

@AceSpadeS Sony's patent is giving you a little glimpse into their future. You want to support that? DRM doesn't stop piracy, what it does is make shareholders feel more secure about their investments and it hamstrings us poor suckers who buy games legally.

It doesn't matter how popular Valve is, the gamers are there for the big sales. Without the sales, Steam wouldn't being doing any better than say, Impulse Driven. Even Valve has admitted as much.

Capcom says it's Sony's DRM. I don't see any reason not to believe them. And I haven't needed a constant internet connection to play any of my games from the eShop so far.

AceSpadeS

#98

AceSpadeS said:

@Gamesake

I quote from the IGN article. "It's one of the mechanisms that Sony has made available for third parties." It was Capcom's choice to implement the technology, Sony simply made it available. If I develop a way for you to protect your intellectual property from thieves and pirates, it's your choice to use it or not. Systems like that exist to convince developers/publishers to bring games to a system. I realize that I was wrong in saying it was Capcom's DRM, as that was what your original article lead me to believe, but my position is still that it was Capcom's choice to implement the technology. Why shouldn't Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft give publishers options to secure their content? Piracy benefits no one in the long run. If it makes shareholders feel more secure, then its a good thing, because if the shareholders go, the company goes too.

As for that patent, it is simply a patent not an actual technology. Push Square has run articles on plenty of other patents from Sony that have gone nowhere, and I see no reason to believe this patent is any different until I see proof. If I went and assumed every patent would become an actual product, I'd still be waiting for this... http://www.google.com/patents/US20120268359?dq=Sony&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8579UOjcJOen0AHQloCYBw&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBDgK

Gamesake

#99

Gamesake said:

@AceSpadeS You shouldn't lay all the blame on Capcom and let Sony off that easy. It's a good point that Capcom made the choice to use Sony's DRM, not Sony. But Capcom is using that DRM just as Sony intended and on Sony's own online service no less. Sony could have put a stop to it but instead they're encouraging developers to do exactly what Capcom has done.

I doubt that Sony would have bothered compromising themselves over a patent like this if they weren't serious about a way to circumvent the used games market. What Sony wants is bad for retailers and more importantly gamers. Sony won't be content until they have a stranglehold on everything you buy. Lucky for us nothing they make is very exciting.

Mattiator

#100

Mattiator said:

Now if only we'd get Ys: Forest Ocean In Celceta on the 3DS I'd have no reason to covet a Vita.

Rei7

#101

Rei7 said:

@slim80 Not really funny as everything seems to be handheld right now. Since tablets, iPhones and iPad existed, everyone seems to be shifting towards portable gaming. Which is not really a surprise.

I don't give a f actually since I own PS3, Vita, 3DS, PSP and an awesome pc rig.
What I want is more competition in the gaming world. I'd get bored if I could only play Mario, Zelda and Pokemon all the time. I need more.

Rainor

#103

Rainor said:

To be honest the vita doesn't really need monster hunter 4 it has god eater 2 toukiden age of demons and the king of hunters soul sacrifice Nintendo would kill to have soul sacrifice

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